The Official Forever Red "This is what was cut" Discussion Thread [Archive]

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 12:34 PM

Hi Everyone,

Recent off-topic discussion on Forever Red in the 'RPM Final" Thread has brought forth this thread. This thread is to discuss footage that was cut or lost from Forever Red. I will post the script, videos and other things to spark discussion.

THE SCRIPT

DISCLAIMER : The following script if the final draft. My understanding is there were 3 drafts, and while scenes and dialogue were moved around, the final draft is not much different from the final draft. However, there may have been several treatments for the episode, and the treatments may have been much different from the final script

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MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 12:35 PM

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MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 12:35 PM

VIDEOS (DAILIES)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHeNzh1mIT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbw6RBdVERI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzMQvon_WTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55mV7eVyHoE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-f1TWijeZo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Yv3zE4Ep0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDaquZ09xM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKb22CQVDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b79x7wcU9Rw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_VRFcWPMOk

VIDEOS - Lost Scenes (recut by MR-Aftershock)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ipHj9m3cg

NoodleZ

07-13-2009, 12:38 PM

Thank You MR-Aftershock

Thrax

07-13-2009, 12:41 PM

I liked a lot of the Script but i think is change

BlueSenturion

07-13-2009, 12:42 PM

I think I would prefer that (probably) 40-minutes lasting episode rather than the garbage, well, an episode full of plotholes that we saw...

Mugenhunt

07-13-2009, 12:59 PM

an episode full of plotholes that we saw...

What plotholes?

Forever Red is rushed, and the plot is pretty minimal, but I'm not seeing any major plotholes in it. Care to elaborate?

Anza Power

07-13-2009, 03:02 PM

^ Rangers with no power morphing and Machine EMpire villains living and Serpenterra being blown up by a bike, but please please don't turn this into another FR plotholes debate...

So on topic, was it true that it was originally planned that Jason would sacrifice himself to stop Serpenterra?

There's a YouTube vid claiming that it has some of the lost footage, but the reason I'm not linking to that vid is because it all full of bull****, those with some video editing skills would spot a hundred mistakes in that vid easy, like the fact that the audio was put together from different clips and the background music was just there to cover it, and many difference in the video quality from one scene to another indicating that each clip was taken from another source...

But it could still be true that that ending was planned...

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 03:05 PM

PRangerX

07-13-2009, 03:08 PM

I think I would prefer that (probably) 40-minutes lasting episode rather than the garbage, well, an episode full of plotholes that we saw...

I fail to see how "Frever Red" is garbage. It does exactly what it intended to do. They couldn't do a 40 minuted episode. They had 20 minutes of tv time ( the rest is commercials). They didn't have time to explain every little part of the back story.

It isn't even full of many plotholes at all. The only Rangers that really lost their powers were Jason and TJ. TJ easily got his powers back the way Justin did. Jason was said to get his powers back from the evil Red Ranger from the comic. This is from the writer of the episode himself.

The whole backstory of Surpenterra being on the moon is explained in "Scorpion Rain". Which Amit co-created himself.

BlueSenturion

07-13-2009, 03:17 PM

What plotholes?

Forever Red is rushed, and the plot is pretty minimal, but I'm not seeing any major plotholes in it. Care to elaborate?

Horses on the moon... Moon without any gravity force... Andros breathing on the moon with no problem... There are more but I am lazy to write them...

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 03:27 PM

Please don't turn this into a 'plothole' thread. THe purpose is to expose the lost aspects, which if you read the script, are few and far in between. I'm just trying to share some footage that SHOULD have been on the DVD release

Mr. CD

07-13-2009, 03:30 PM

Horses on the moon... Moon without any gravity force... Andros breathing on the moon with no problem... There are more but I am lazy to write them...

There's always been gravity on the moon and air in space.

Anza Power

07-13-2009, 03:32 PM

Horses on the moon... Moon without any gravity force... Andros breathing on the moon with no problem... There are more but I am lazy to write them...

Those are PR plotholes not Forever Red specific plotholes...

Sorry, back on topic now...

bobtherandomguy

07-13-2009, 03:37 PM

Those are PR plotholes not Forever Red specific plotholes...

Sorry, back on topic now...

its not a plothole since its remained consistant throughout the series. Gravity and oxygen on the moon is just how it works in PRU

Cmdr Crayfish

07-13-2009, 03:39 PM

So on topic, was it true that it was originally planned that Jason would sacrifice himself to stop Serpenterra?

NO. Amit has said repeatedly that, had he been allowed to do Forever Red as a feature film, he would have killed Aurico and Leo because Aurico was superfluous and Leo was "the OTHER lion-themed Ranger." It was never seriously contemplated as something Disney would allow him to do, and killing Jason was never so much as inferred.

Cmdr Crayfish

07-13-2009, 03:44 PM

There's always been gravity on the moon and air in space.

I love that this is a franchise where that statement can be used to conclusively shut somebody down in a debate and is in no way ironic.

(though to be fair, space is a low-atmosphere environment as demonstrated by multiple instances of explosive decompression on spaceships. I'd say the oxygen levels in space are something on the level of K2, so it's still semi-vacuous and COLD AS HELL up there)

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 03:51 PM

Just so people are aware, videos are being added to the third post as opposed to being scattered throughout this thread.

Digifiend

07-13-2009, 05:23 PM

^ Rangers with no power morphingEasily explained. As already pointed out, TJ got his powers back the same way Justin did in In Space. I have a different theory about MMPR: Jason's powers were cloned, not transferred, by the Sword of Light.
So on topic, was it true that it was originally planned that Jason would sacrifice himself to stop Serpenterra?

There's a YouTube vid claiming that it has some of the lost footage, but the reason I'm not linking to that vid is because it all full of bull****, those with some video editing skills would spot a hundred mistakes in that vid easy, like the fact that the audio was put together from different clips and the background music was just there to cover it, and many difference in the video quality from one scene to another indicating that each clip was taken from another source...

But it could still be true that that ending was planned...I saw that and got fooled by it. The Kimberley footage must actually be from a movie - Amy Jo Johnson has done quite a few, albeit either straight to TV/video or bit parts. I'd like to know where the "Jason didn't make it" soundbite came from.

Pity the lines about Tommy's hair being "regulation" and Q-Rex being able to beat Dragonzord were cut - although how did Eric know Tommy was also the MMPR Green Ranger anyway? And how did Carter know he used to have long hair? Far as I can see, the Space Rangers, and thus all the second Turbo team except Blue, had their identities made public, everyone on Terra Venture knew Leo was a Ranger after the Galaxy finale, and Lightspeed was public knowledge. But MMPR wasn't, so the others should only have known Tommy was Zeo Ranger V (except for Bulk and Skull, who personally knew Tommy and so probably worked it out after TJ's identity was exposed). The footage from Legacy of Power wasn't there yet. If it came from the Morphin Grid itself, Tommy doesn't acquire that footage until some time between Forever Red and Day of the Dino.

bobtherandomguy

07-13-2009, 05:35 PM

I think its the Green candle episode.

As for the "Power Duplication" theory that is entirely moronic, and I have always thought that

Quark

07-13-2009, 05:38 PM

Horses on the moon... Moon without any gravity force... Andros breathing on the moon with no problem... There are more but I am lazy to write them...

None of that has anything to do with the episode being 20 minutes instead of 40. Besides, you know robots riding horses on the moon is awesome.

SirStack

07-13-2009, 05:42 PM

Pity the lines about Tommy's hair being "regulation" and Q-Rex being able to beat Dragonzord were cut

Except they weren't. They're in the original episode!

although how did Eric know Tommy was also the MMPR Green Ranger anyway? And how did Carter know he used to have long hair?

Notice that the only person who has no knowledge of Tommy is Cole. The implication was that this wasn't the first time these Reds have met. They get together and swap tales of Rangerdom semi-frequently.

Fang RX

07-13-2009, 05:44 PM

SirStack

07-13-2009, 05:47 PM

I've probalby asked this on another thread or something, but how in the hell was the Wild Force Rider able to stop Serpenterra, when even the combined strength of the Tunder Ultrazord in Season 2 couldn't do it?

Serpentera: power from its mouth to blow up a planet. Ergo, its mouth while blasting the fire would have to be the weakest point to allow such energy to be released.

Wild Force Rider: built by a ZORD GOD. Has no firepower, but has God-like shielding. Shielding enough to avoid being melted by Serpentera's beam while driving through its tender guts.

Had Venjix not opened Serpentera's big yap until he landed or got closer to Earth, Cole wouldn't have been able to do much of anything.

BlueSenturion

07-13-2009, 05:55 PM

None of that has anything to do with the episode being 20 minutes instead of 40. Besides, you know robots riding horses on the moon is awesome.

Jesus Christ man, I was talking about plotholes, + this Forever Red seems a wee bit longer to me than the original version... Don't you think so? (Of course you don't)

Quark

07-13-2009, 06:05 PM

Don't you think so? (Of course you don't)

Purple Giraffe, actually. (See, don't make assumptions you don't know what my answer will be)

BlueSenturion

07-13-2009, 06:07 PM

(Shall remember it in the future...)

Cmdr Crayfish

07-13-2009, 06:24 PM

Jesus Christ man, I was talking about plotholes

And everything you pointed out was a problem with the narrative form of Power Rangers and had nothing to do with Forever Red. Indeed, the moon is already home to indigenous lifeforms in the PRU. Lunar bats, lunar wolves, etc. But please, be like the rest of the populace and complain about Forever Red without really understanding what it is you're complaining about because that makes you "discerning."

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 06:34 PM

And everything you pointed out was a problem with the narrative form of Power Rangers and had nothing to do with Forever Red. Indeed, the moon is already home to indigenous lifeforms in the PRU. Lunar bats, lunar wolves, etc. But please, be like the rest of the populace and complain about Forever Red without really understanding what it is you're complaining about because that makes you "discerning."

I agree with you, Chris. Amit did a great job AND Plot holes, should any exist.... have no place in this thread. This thread is to celebrate the episode in it's FULLEST potential.

PRangerX

07-13-2009, 07:08 PM

^ Rangers with no power morphing and Machine EMpire villains living and Serpenterra being blown up by a bike, but please please don't turn this into another FR plotholes debate...

So on topic, was it true that it was originally planned that Jason would sacrifice himself to stop Serpenterra?

The Rangers with no Power thing has already been explained by me here and by others. The Machine Empire's being alive is not a plothole, its a retcon. Its very plausible that they could exist. That bike was from a god and Cole exploited a weakness in Surpenterra. Sirtstack said it best. Thats not a plothole either.

The original ending for "Forever Red" was supposed to be a 10 Megazord battle. It was too expensive to produce. Bandai offered to pay for the Wild Force Rider sequence. They had no chioce but to use it. It made sense as a toy advirtisement and they couldn't say no to Bandai.

RangerKing

07-13-2009, 07:13 PM

I agree with you, Chris. Amit did a great job AND Plot holes, should any exist.... have no place in this thread. This thread is to celebrate the episode in it's FULLEST potential.

That statement is almost like if you criticize the President you're unpatriotic. I think that talking about plotholes is part of the natural discourse. Just because its a special episode doesn't bar any type of discussion, even plotholes. It's only natural to want to discuss things which people may have felt were left out and try and fill the gaps.

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 09:46 PM

VIDEOS coming soon -- I'm waiting for youtube to process them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHeNzh1mIT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbw6RBdVERI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzMQvon_WTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55mV7eVyHoE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-f1TWijeZo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Yv3zE4Ep0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDaquZ09xM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKb22CQVDc

I'm looking for my other tapes. Enjoy these.

MR-Aftershock

07-13-2009, 11:01 PM

I found my cut of Forever Red, I have it split into 3 parts as MOV files. Big files. Is anyone out there willing to connect them and convert them to a DIVX or XVID file?

MRA

Fury Diamond

07-13-2009, 11:16 PM

FR was beautifully written and a wonderful celebration. Watching the various scenes, including the morph sequence, gets me everytime.

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After the episode aired, encoders started the term "Forever <insert color here>" for a variety of dedicated morph and music videos. FR definitely had an impact and should be celebrated.

I have often heard about the plotholes and all that jazz, but this is one episode that deserves to throw those rules out. FR was an episode that held its own merits and purpose. 10 Rangers working together...it doesn't get more awesome than that! Well, maybe 15 Red Rangers. :)

Thanks for sharing the clips, MRA.

Anza Power

07-14-2009, 12:26 AM

Easily explained. As already pointed out, TJ got his powers back the same way Justin did in In Space. I have a different theory about MMPR: Jason's powers were cloned, not transferred, by the Sword of Light.I saw that and got fooled by it. The Kimberley footage must actually be from a movie - Amy Jo Johnson has done quite a few, albeit either straight to TV/video or bit parts. I'd like to know where the "Jason didn't make it" soundbite came from.

If you'd listen carefully, you'd notice that the word "Jason" doesn't even belong in the sentence, it was cut and put in there by editing, and the guy who made it put in that background music to cover it...

The original ending for "Forever Red" was supposed to be a 10 Megazord battle. It was too expensive to produce. Bandai offered to pay for the Wild Force Rider sequence. They had no chioce but to use it. It made sense as a toy advirtisement and they couldn't say no to Bandai.

Wow advertise one small bike toy rather than 10 big zord toys, smart decision...:p

I found my cut of Forever Red, I have it split into 3 parts as MOV files. Big files. Is anyone out there willing to connect them and convert them to a DIVX or XVID file?

MRA

I use WinAvi Video Converter, great for compression, PM me if you need a link...

Cmdr Crayfish

07-14-2009, 12:33 AM

AoBlue

07-14-2009, 12:44 AM

You know, having watched the footage and read the script... it's made me truly wonder how Rocky could've fit into it all because had Steve Cardenas became unreachable due to him moving, he would've been included like everyone's said. Due to Jason being MMPR Red due to first place right, I would think he'd either be Ninja Red to not conflict with MMPR Red. Right?

Cmdr Crayfish

07-14-2009, 12:57 AM

This has been explained DOZENS OF TIMES, including in the LAST DAY.

Cyborg

07-14-2009, 01:01 AM

If Jason, Rocky & Aurico were in there, Jason would have to use the Dino Tyrannosaurus Coin, Rocky would have needed the Ninja Red coin ~Which Was DUST~ (at least Rocky getting cloned Tyrannosaurus Coin from the Sword of Light leaving Jason with the original makes sense and is clean WITHOUT the need for bringing in comics), and even if the Ninja Coins weren't dusted, they'd conflict (at least 5/6ths of them anyway) with the Alien Rangers so Rocky & Aurico couldn't be morphed at the same time.

Cmdr Crayfish

07-14-2009, 01:07 AM

Rocky could have used the (totally recreated) Red Badge of Darkness...

Cyborg

07-14-2009, 01:08 AM

Oh yeah, they did have one of those but the MotW crushed it because they couldn't find someone/thing to use it, didn't it? That'd be an interesting sight then!

Cmdr Crayfish

07-14-2009, 01:15 AM

Goldar crushed it because Number Six was an idiot, so they called up a monster to lead the Mutant Rangers. It was an excellent stratagem.

AoBlue

07-14-2009, 01:23 AM

This has been explained DOZENS OF TIMES, including in the LAST DAY.

Sorry, next time I'll me more attentive.

Cyborg

07-14-2009, 01:23 AM

Okay, my memory of that episode is a bit rusty (understatement of the year), but at least I did remember it got crushed and replaced with a MotW to lead the Mutants.
However, weren't the Badges of Darkness powered by Rita and not a Grid tap?

Mugenhunt

07-14-2009, 01:25 AM

Sorry, next time I'll me more attentive.

It's in the RPM Finale thread. In short, Rocky was just going to have a short cameo at Bulkmeier's and wouldn't be involved in the big lunar battle.

Mugenhunt

07-14-2009, 01:27 AM

However, weren't the Badges of Darkness powered by Rita and not a Grid tap?

Early drafts for the episode had them being effectively prototype Morphers... and Rita did have the Dragon Coin to experiment on for thousands of years. She might have picked up a few tricks involving the Grid, especially since later Mystic Source Rita used it for her Rangers.

Cyborg

07-14-2009, 01:29 AM

Early drafts for the episode had them being effectively prototype Morphers... and Rita did have the Dragon Coin to experiment on for thousands of years. She might have picked up a few tricks involving the Grid, especially since later Mystic Source Rita used it for her Rangers.
I'm going from what I (barely) remember was shown in the episode that aired. So Rita may have experimented on the Dragon Coin for 10 millennia to produce the badges, does that really effect what we saw in the show itself regarding the badges?

Mugenhunt

07-14-2009, 01:33 AM

I'm going from what I (barely) remember was shown in the episode that aired. So Rita may have experimented on the Dragon Coin for 10 millennia to produce the badges, does that really effect what we saw in the show itself regarding the badges?

I have no clue. It let Putties morph into copies of the Rangers. It could have been just a plain transmutation spell, or it could have been a grid tap twisted by Rita's magic. It's probably just transmutation, using the badges to sympathetically evoke the Morphers and thus copy their powers.

Cyborg

07-14-2009, 01:35 AM

I have no clue. It let Putties morph into copies of the Rangers. It could have been just a plain transmutation spell, or it could have been a grid tap twisted by Rita's magic. It's probably just transmutation, using the badges to sympathetically evoke the Morphers and thus copy their powers.
That's what I'm gonna go with, it makes the best sense to me on a half-dead brain as I'm about totally zonked out and gonna hit the sack.

I'll let you guys have fun working the rest of it. Laters!

Cmdr Crayfish

07-14-2009, 01:37 AM

Considering they appeared to have CLAY versions of the Power Weapons, and Green possessed a replica(?) Sword of Darkness -- which was not part of Tommy's default template and thus could not be replicated by his badge -- I think it's a combination of sympathetic magic and whatever replica weapons Finster could cobble together for those Putties. I like the idea Rita was trying to create her own transformation devices by studying the Dragon Coin, especially since she might have been able to do everything bar actually connecting to the Grid. Right down to creating her own replica morphing templates. Perhaps she was invoking the Ghost of Darkness to facilitate the Grid connection, or just provide the raw power.

(look at Tommy's awakening in GWE, she is using him to "stabilize" the morph in lieu of a Power Morpher and Tommy's complete inexperience at using the powers himself)

Mugenhunt

07-14-2009, 01:41 AM

Tsk Tsk. Given the source footage, it's obvious that Rita stole the weapons from Zordon's previous team of non-Ranger champions and used them for the Mutant Rangers. And made a replica Sword of Darkness.

Cmdr Crayfish

07-14-2009, 01:44 AM

I'm so taken with the image of Finster whipping up clay weapons and loading them into the Monstermatic for baking.

SirStack

07-14-2009, 06:35 AM

Shame there isn't an earlier draft of FR available. The earlier the draft, the more changes, after all. The final draft is perfect for knowing what was in fact shot, but the dailies are even better for that.

On a related note, I just posted to Project Hexagon the script for "Reinforcements from the Future, Part 2". It's a first draft and features tons of scenes that never made it to the filming stage, let alone to air!

pinkranger2000

07-14-2009, 07:07 AM

I'm checking out that RFF script as we "speak".
I'm always late for interesting discussions :(
about the videos on the first page (firt up, awesome), the sunlight and wind were KILLING them on the close-ups from the first one, weren't they? Cool vids.

RangerKing

07-14-2009, 07:27 AM

Speedbreaker

07-14-2009, 07:45 AM

I'm actually kinda glad in retrospect that a lot of stuff from the dailies wound up on the cutting room floor... Tommy's "Andros, don't you know I'm retired?", his shock at the Machine Empire's survival, and even owning the poolside juice bar (rather than just being a patron) all seem to contrast with how most fans interpreted Tommy's status, especially in light of the Hexagon and Dino Thunder: that it was Tommy who assigned Andros the task of keeping tabs on the Machine generals, that he was actively but discreetly coordinating all the Rangers that still had their powers, as an enigmatic Zordon-like figure, after his plans to create his own Ranger team were sabotaged by Mesogog.

On the other hand, I really feel bad for Jason Narvy... not just because the "Mrs. Kimberly Skullovitch" idea never got past the first draft, but because you can tell he's annoyed at having to hold his breath underwater, comically resurface, deliver his line and then repeat ad infinitum... all for a shot that didn't even make the final cut. :(

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 08:17 AM

I use WinAvi Video Converter, great for compression, PM me if you need a link...

This appears to be a windows program, I use mac..... any other suggustions? I would like to put my incomplete (Music, ADR.etc )cut up for download somewhere..... I would also like to complete it some day.... Anyway ---- this cut includes the complete Bulk and Skull scene, the complete Park Scene, and of course 'I'm the one who destroyed Zordon'.

I do not have the dailies for the alpha / cole scene.

On a related note, I just posted to Project Hexagon the script for "Reinforcements from the Future, Part 2". It's a first draft and features tons of scenes that never made it to the filming stage, let alone to air!

The reinforcements dailies are the next ones I want to release.

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 08:47 AM

Nevermind. I need to recut this. THe audio is out of sync

pinkranger2000

07-14-2009, 10:20 AM

You have dailies from RFF? where did you get that?!

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 10:30 AM

You have dailies from RFF? where did you get that?!

Aparently these dailies were ATTN to the story department. How they ended up in my hands, is a mystery. Like Forever Red, I don't think I have all of them.... But I'll release what I have

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 12:24 PM

I've put up a cut version of the park scene, and am currently encoding more dailies.

Mugenhunt

07-14-2009, 12:32 PM

Let me reiterate that you rock. So very very much.

AoBlue

07-14-2009, 12:34 PM

You're really good!!

Hears All

07-14-2009, 12:47 PM

I've put up a cut version of the park scene, and am currently encoding more dailies.

Are you putting them up on youtube? If so can we get a link to your page? I want to subcribe :D

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 12:54 PM

The videos can be viewed on my youtube page, http://www.youtube.com/mraftershock

You can also view the videos in the third post of this thread.

I just posted the first part of the Bulk and Skull dailies. More to come.

THANKS FOR ALL THE POSITIVE COMMENTS :)

MRA

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 02:48 PM

I just uploaded part 2 of the Bulk and Skull dailies ---- geez I love these guys!

I'm currently editing the footage, and uploading the cut part scene to megaupload for those who want to cut it into their encodes. Just credit me.

MRA

PS : I've heard rumors from a very respected fan that other members of this forum might have some of the dailies I am missing. I would like to invite those people to participate in sharing this footage with the fans.

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 04:23 PM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YD8WIHSP

There's the park scene for anyone who wants it for whatever reason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ipHj9m3cg

AoBlue

07-14-2009, 04:35 PM

LoL. They were looking at him like "I bet it's because you wear red".

SirStack

07-14-2009, 05:41 PM

Stack, did Amit do so many edits to the script that he was credited on screen for it?

...I'm afraid I don't understand you. Amit was story editor, thus he edited every script. Some more than others. Which means rewriting lines, adding whole scenes, all sorts of stuff. Even though he's only credited for writing three (the only three he wrote from scratch), he's said to me that there were a few that he rewrote extensively, but chose not to take a credit for.

Fang RX

07-14-2009, 05:47 PM

Taylor looked like she wanted to kick Carter's Regulation Rulke-Book @$$. She was pissed. That is the only time that I have seen Max dissapointed in the entire series.

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 06:50 PM

...I'm afraid I don't understand you. Amit was story editor, thus he edited every script. Some more than others. Which means rewriting lines, adding whole scenes, all sorts of stuff. Even though he's only credited for writing three (the only three he wrote from scratch), he's said to me that there were a few that he rewrote extensively, but chose not to take a credit for.

Hi Sir Stack,

I would love to archive some of my collection in the Hexigon archives. Please PM me if you are interested.

MRA

MR-Aftershock

07-14-2009, 07:25 PM

Pool Scene

Megaupload coming soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuPhStPfFNQ

AoBlue

07-14-2009, 08:09 PM

The scene was great but... I don't like Tommy being the boss of Bulkmeirs.

SirStack

07-14-2009, 09:33 PM

The scene was great but... I don't like Tommy being the boss of Bulkmeirs.

He's less the boss of Club Bulkmeier's and more the boss of Bulk & Skull. They've sort of become his personal Squatt and Baboo.

Mr. White

07-14-2009, 09:39 PM

Ehh don't get how Tommy's the boss of Bulk & Skull at Bulkmeirer's

Mugenhunt

07-14-2009, 09:44 PM

Ehh don't get how Tommy's the boss of Bulk & Skull at Bulkmeirer's

Because Oliver's was a bad name for a resort.

AoBlue

07-14-2009, 10:03 PM

^^ I agree wit you on that.

Digifiend

07-15-2009, 01:55 AM

I reckon Bulk founded it upon his return from Mironoi, but couldn't make a success of it, so Tommy bought him out, keeping the name, and using the profits from it to fund his doctorate.

Digifiend

07-15-2009, 02:08 AM

Considering not one of those toys were in stores anymore and there was no incentive to mass manufacturing each of the molds for a one-off appearance in a single episode, Bandai made the right decision.
Except for Wild Force Megazord that is. Considering that Megazord, Thunder Megazord and Turbo Megazord were destroyed, Ninja Megazord rendered inoperable due to the loss of the Ninja powers (although in this case, Shogun could've been used instead, piloted by Aurico), Lightspeed Megazord put out of commission (similar situation to Mega Winger, so it could've been rebuilt) and Time Force Megazord being stuck in the future (note the absence of a Megazord battle in the team-up, depite the fact the other Rangers were present), the Megazord battle couldn't happen. I didn't mention Astro being destroyed because the Mark II ship would've been that one.

Mugenhunt

07-15-2009, 02:47 AM

Thrax

07-15-2009, 02:56 AM

The Forever could by much better if they made Forever Red part 1 and 2

Cmdr Crayfish

07-15-2009, 02:57 AM

... Did you actually GO TO AMIT YOURSELF to get the complete list? Jesus Christ, I'm actually impressed you know this. I wasn't aware anybody outside of a small group did.

Mugenhunt

07-15-2009, 03:14 AM

... Did you actually GO TO AMIT YOURSELF to get the complete list? Jesus Christ, I'm actually impressed you know this. I wasn't aware anybody outside of a small group did.
My Google-fu is strong. And chat logs that should have been private don't always remain so.

Cmdr Crayfish

07-15-2009, 03:19 AM

Oh, it was that stupid weasel Prometheus and his endless posting of logs that don't belong to him because he has nothing else in his life going for him but DVDs and living vicariously through other nerds? Somebody should pants him. I nominate you or Quark.

Quark

07-15-2009, 03:31 AM

I will do what I must.

Cmdr Crayfish

07-15-2009, 03:41 AM

Because you can? Either way, this cake is great.

Quark

07-15-2009, 03:58 AM

For the good of all of us...

...'Cept the ones who are dead.

Mugenhunt

07-15-2009, 03:59 AM

...

Oh god. I just learned where Bulkmeier's is located.

I... my brain is melting.

Grandranger

07-15-2009, 05:17 AM

...

Oh god. I just learned where Bulkmeier's is located.

I... my brain is melting.

Nurse, I need a snow cone stat, to enable a brain freeze to resolidify his brain.

In all seriousness though, where is Bulkmeier's located?

MR-Aftershock

07-15-2009, 06:59 AM

Nurse, I need a snow cone stat, to enable a brain freeze to resolidify his brain.

In all seriousness though, where is Bulkmeier's located?

Tommy's back yard.

Drax

07-15-2009, 07:09 AM

Great script, would be cool if it were downloadable as a PDF/text file

Mugenhunt

07-15-2009, 09:51 AM

Tommy's back yard.

Yeah. It all clicks now. Tommy, being a world famous Power Ranger, is charging people admission to hang out in his back yard. That is so wrong and yet so right.

It also makes the "Rocky as Tommy's Butler" thing a little easier to swallow.

Quark

07-15-2009, 10:31 AM

It also makes the "Rocky as Tommy's Butler" thing a little easier to swallow.

Ugh... I hate that idea.

Mugenhunt

07-15-2009, 10:59 AM

Ugh... I hate that idea.

Oh, I do as well. I can not seriously believe that Amit thought Steve would go through with it. BUT, there's a chance that it'd be more of a "LOL Conceited Tommy is Conceited!" thing, where Rocky comes across as the only sane one than a "Yes Master Oliver, I have pressed your underwear for you. May I polish your zeonizer?" sort of thing.

That Tommy comes across as a total self-absorbed git really amuses me. It's such blatant meta-commentary on Tommy being the most popular ranger ever, and makes the whole Tommy Worship bit of the Hexagon feel a bit more acceptable.

Quark

07-15-2009, 11:44 AM

where Rocky comes across as the only sane one than a "Yes Master Oliver, I have pressed your underwear for you. May I polish your zeonizer?" sort of thing.

Rocky just wanted to have fun. See where that landed him? A lifetime of servitude.
I guess they could have spun it in a slightly less embarrassing way for Rocky. But if that was going to be the extent of his role, i'm glad he was cut all together.

Squizz

07-15-2009, 03:27 PM

The sounds of this, makes me think Steve Cardenas moving house was a tactical one, love this thread though,

I've seen the shot footage before. It would be great to see earlier drafts though. I've loved the episode the infinite times I've watched it, but hearing stories from the cast and hearing rumours of what could have been in forever Red such as Kat, seems to make it more enjoyable, it's the Ranger Ep that keeps on giving.

Digifiend

07-18-2009, 02:05 AM

The Megazord roster would have been Thunder Megazord, Red Shogunzord, Red Battlezord, Lightning Fire Tamer, Astro Megaship, Galaxy Megazord, Lightspeed Megazord, Time Force Megazord, the Q-Rex, and Isis Megazord.

Knowing Amit, the fact that the Marvel comics storyline that introduced the Dark Rangers (which was used to explain Jason getting his powers back) also dropped a line about the "Spirit of the Earth" repairing the Thunderzords explains that one. The Lightspeed Rescue Megazords were only highly damaged, and indeed we saw repair work on them in the final episode. And Time Force Megazord theoretically could have been summoned from the future. Lightning Fire Tamer is the only real wildcard here, though I suppose if Lightning Cruiser had a spare morpher, a back-up Zord isn't entirely out of the question.Thunder Megazord? Not just the Red Dragon Thunderzord, since it was humanoid? I don't know what this spirit of the earth is, but how could the Thunderzords be repaired anyway, when we saw them totally fall to bits in Ninja Quest part 1!?! More realistic to bring it back with Time Force tech. That could also explain TJ's Red Lightning Fire Tamer Rescue Zord (both brought back from before their destruction).

I did say that Lightspeed Megazord's situation was similar to Mega Winger - out of commission, but not destroyed. So yes, it could indeed just be repaired, they'd had two years to do it after all.

Mugenhunt

07-18-2009, 12:29 PM

Thunder Megazord? Not just the Red Dragon Thunderzord, since it was humanoid?

I didn't make the list. And I think this might have been a case of wanting Jason to not be outshined by say Andros who would have a Megazord at his command.

I don't know what this spirit of the earth is, but how could the Thunderzords be repaired anyway, when we saw them totally fall to bits in Ninja Quest part 1!?!

It's canon. The Thunderzords were being repaired by the mystical powers of the Spirit of the Earth. The idea was that the Dark Rangers would have used them against the Ninjazords. This was in... the Marvel Comics MMPR IIRC, by Fabian Niceza, and it was how Amit justified Jason getting his powers back.

Quark

07-18-2009, 12:30 PM

I always liked Red's zord individually more than the Megazord. He had that spiffy helicopter attack.

GohoSentaiPimpranger

07-18-2009, 03:14 PM

These comics preserved anywhere on the nets? I'm curious.

I'm disappointed the early drafts of the story aren't available. I'm assuming they were thrown away or something?

Digifiend

07-18-2009, 05:43 PM

Me too. Found this - not a web archive, but copies of some issues for sale - not all though. http://www.atomicavenue.com/atomic/TitleDetail.aspx?TitleID=29954 They need to get their facts right (or did the comic get it wrong) as the site calls Angel Grove, Angel City. Seems to be no PDF or anything - I suppose it's illegal, breaching the copyright of both Marvel and Disney.

Mugenhunt, you spelt his name wrong by the way, it's Fabian Nicieza. Extra I.