RPM "Three's A Crowd" Episode

[O.92]

A historical episode in PR history. Our first ever repeat title.

Oh, and that EP is back.

Power Rangers: R.P.M. Episode 19 "Three's A Crowd"
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[Cmdr Crayfish]

MINNESOTA RESIDENTS, IT IS T-MINUS ONE HOUR TO JUDD TIME.

(I'm pretty sure this is against the rules, but come on -- how many times do I get to be one of the first to watch an episode? This is how Jesse felt for most of the nineties with a C-BAND!)

[Beast King]

*Big spoiler* WE GET A NEW MEGAZORD COMBO!!! Hence the name "Three's a crowd" THE G9!!!! I wasn't too keen on its name though, And the poor old Bouseki banki!!!! I miss that thing!! In a way this episode reminded me of Go-onger.

5\5 AWESOME!!!!! :D

[Mr. Yellow]

Wow, you guys have seen it already?

Belly of the Beast is on at the moment. And so everyone knows, I have not slept all night lol.

[Beast King]

I saw it ages ago, i don't know if CC has, but anyway, I just loved the scene with the two robbers at the grocery store, it really stood for what power rangers are really about, plus the training to form the Skyrev megazord was awesome.

[terrierlee]

Well. First off, I'm glad Shifter was out doing something for a change. The fight between him and Gem was hot. Didn't really like Tenaya's involvement, but whutever. Based on the next few episode summaries she'll still be here. Guh.

Oh, the fight in the beginning. I was all happy we saw them out shopping, it explains that the Rangers don't go hungry, and it's revealed that Dr. K has a sweet tooth. Considering she never got her cake all those years in Alphabet Soup, I guess she's making up for it?

We see a test for the new megazord configuration, and of course it ends in fail. Oh, and Ziggy once again voices our thoughts. Why must all nine zords combine into something crazy? Well Ziggy, you haven't seen anything yet. *nodnod*

Oh yeah, Dillon in the beginning. Flynn tries to be helpful, but is denied D: Poor Flynn. And poor Ziggy. He is constantly denied during the episode. When will Ziggy get some real love? I mean, I could tell Dillon was showing his form of love by saying he liked seeing Ziggy squirm, and though it could be taken perverted, I didn't see it that way.

What I did see as perverted was that one scene in the Megazord fight with the ball-of-yarn bot. But considering it was sentai footage, I let it slide. Oh yeah, and they made the ball-of-yarn Bot a boy. How... weird. So, when... it(?) was fighting Gemma, I saw it as a girl/girl-monster fight and still found it hot.

This episode proved that Boom Time is not always in favor of Gem and Gemma.

I noticed that they seemed to recreate the zord cockpits. I think.

The SkyRev Megazord is a-go! Gem and Gemma learn to calm down. ...Somewhut.

We get a hint of whut will go down next episode. Venjix is tired of his new body. Pity. I kinda liked his body. It's covered in protractors >>;

The episode ends with Gem and Gemma attempting to fix the door they broke at the beginning, and Flynn takes pity on them and helps out. Flynn needs another focus episode. Really he does. And Scott. And I know they should be coming up soon but all this Dillon focus I need something different. And Gem and Gemma haven't completely changed, they still like things to go boom, but if the others are there, they should keep it in check.

So overall... this episode wasn't bad. I felt it worked well. So... yeah.

9.5/10 Bags of candy

[Beast King]

Not bad for our first Judd episode.

[Mr. Yellow]

This was a great epsisode! Loved the SkyRev Megazord! A pretty good name for it, it makes sense. It's good that they got a name right. Gem and Gemma were still good in this episode and it looks like they'll be a little better as they go on. I think it's pretty funny how Venjix has glasses on in the shot were SkyRev blasts them, and the road also says Go-On.

Good job Judd, keep it going!

[Crazy Davey]

i'm shocked..... I actually didn't mind Gem and Gemma in this episode... Judd has managed to make me tolerate them. Hopefully it will continue this way.

4/5

Nice return Judd! Great to have you back!

[SolarisKnight222]

Did Chip write this episode?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Yeah, lots of US cockpit stuff. I was actually kind of impressed by that. The mesh isn't flawless, but much like the "inside the helmet" shots it's a lovely way to do scene extensions beyond what Go-on gives them to work with.

Hey! It's the John Tellegen who writes good episodes! He's back. While I admit the aesop is a little obvious ("stop being so reckless!"), it's an excellent summation of the problems the Boom Twins are going to have gelling with the rest of Corinth's population. Not much touching upon the damage to their psyches in the work camps or even on the fact there are other people who presumably have the same behavioral quirks after years of grueling torture, but it was lovely to see the rest of the team finally confront their Sixths... Sixes? Whatever... about their behavioral problems. And confront K especially.

Heh, having to test out the configuration of the new Megazord (and the subsequent super-gestalt) given its origins as a doomsday weapon. I genuinely did not expect to see that followed up on. Nicely done.

Tenaya had a wacky plot that completely fizzled out, Shifter got to be the competent, tough straight man to everyone, and CRUNCH just stood around and took their abuse? This definitely plays to Adelaide's strengths as an actress more than "stoic, knows everything" Tenaya. This Tenaya just thinks she knows everything, while Shifter has to put up with it and Crunch tags along. Tenaya's turned into some weird hybrid of Elgar and Nadira's slapstick, and Shifter has gone FULL ON Rygog. I like this. Lean into the Turbo villain dynamics. Team Venjix was completely unmemorable. This is more focus than they've gotten for most of the season.

Holy crap Tenaya's hand comes off. She's had a Skywalker work-over. How much of her is machine at this point? Especially in relation to her brother...

That grocery store went from being in the middle of industrial sprawl to being in the center of what looks like a suburb. How extensive and elaborate are the holograms in Corinth? Do they extend beyond the ceiling? In which case, lovely means of shifting the environments to suit the emotional timbre of the civilians. Otherwise, WEIRD cut after Ziggy and Scott leave for the first time.

(Nice to see Ziggy still getting use out of his history with the syndicates, even if a fully stocked grocery store filled with fresh fruit and prefabricated corporate brands in the middle of the last outpost of human civilization seems weird and stylistically jarring. And GOD DAMN, Krispy Kreme didn't go bankrupt in the real PRU? THEY SURVIVED INTO THE EARLY TWENTY-SECOND CENTURY?)

I liked this episode. It wasn't wildly ambitious, but it was competently done. B+!

[Cmdr Crayfish]

And GOD DAMN, Krispy Kreme didn't go bankrupt in the real PRU? THEY SURVIVED INTO THE EARLY TWENTY-SECOND CENTURY?)

That SHOULD have been "in the PRU, unlike the real world," but somewhere along the lines it became both jumbled and exponentially more entertainingly phrased.

[Beast King]

Loved the SkyRev Megazord! A pretty good name for it, it makes sense.That makes two of us, Velocimax megazord would have been an awful name for it.

[PowerOnyx]

Judd is back. This episode just how similar Eddie and Judd are in their repsective writing styles.

Had we not had the info, we'd have never known there was an EP change.

Furthermore, Judd used Fusen Banki exactly as I thought he would.

And as for Boseki Banki being referred to as "him", if we had never seen Go-Onger we would never have known that Boseki was female.

And the way the Sentai footage was worked in was perfect.

Kudos Judd.

You are Power Rangers.

[Beast King]

And as for Boseki Banki being referred to as "him", if we had never seen Go-Onger we would never have known that Boseki was female.Actually its easy to tell, cause the thing didn't look masculine to begin with.

I wonder if this would work for the Shower banki?

[BurgundyRanger]

And GOD DAMN, Krispy Kreme didn't go bankrupt in the real PRU? THEY SURVIVED INTO THE EARLY TWENTY-SECOND CENTURY?)

I liked this episode. It wasn't wildly ambitious, but it was competently done. B+!


That SHOULD have been "in the PRU, unlike the real world," but somewhere along the lines it became both jumbled and exponentially more entertainingly phrased.

I had to double-back on my tape when I read this just to make sure I hadn't looked away and missed actual product placement in a PR episode!

I doubt that line was a reference to the actual Krispy Kreme donut franchise -- in the CC, it's spelled "Krispy Creme" anyhow -- and I don't recall anything KK makes being sold in crinkly plastic bags. So, it's just a generic line.

But that first scene showed me all I needed to know about what Judd is going to be about in these final 14 episodes. He gives us Rangers out in public (they'd been holed up in the garage for quite a while, it seems) and an unmorphed fight, especially against non-Venjix-associated opponents!

It's tried-and-true PR while still working within the parameters established by the first 18.

Keep 'em coming!

(And I'm doubly glad to see Chris with a review, since it means KSTP didn't go back to its tape-delaying ways!)

[KyoryuRed]

it was amazing!

SkyRev Megazord look incredible! :D

i was laughed when Dr. K don't listen to Ziggy's comment as she turn the computer off and eat some candy lol

[O.92]

Well, it's hard to actually criticize this episode, because as soon as you do, you're gonna have the Judd fanboys all over your *** and the whole "YOU HATE JUDD!!!" speech.

That being said, this was easily the season's worst episode. I have never sat down to watch RPM, wishing the episode would end and that I hadn't rushed home from the gym to see it. That happened today. Weak plot, weak dialouge.

--Megazords crashing into each other? Really? That's the big "Holy ****, damn you Gem & Gemma" thing that causes malfunctions throughout the entire Megazord? We've taken huge explosions that don't do that before.

--Where the hell are the Megazords swimming to? They're fighting right outside the dome, a place the Rangers have driven and walked to before. Why in God's name are they swimming?

--The episode accomplished nothing. We got 0 progression through Dillon's stroyline, which is fine, but more importantly, it poorly executed progression through Gem & Gemma's "blow things up problem".

--I don't understand why Ziggy ended up at the top of those stairs when he teleported when he's proven himself to have gotten his teleporting trick down before. I guess it was a simple mess up?

Gem & Gemma seemed the same to me. This is the only place I see people saying that they acted different and more tolerable. I don't know why. They seem the same to me, which is fine by me.

I'll have to rewatch this episode again later. It just seemed...bad. Hopefully I'll come back around with different opinions.

[momotroniuity]

Seeing all the fruits and vegetables in the store, I could not help think that they use Synthetron technology in Corinth, with the multitude of food items, a small farm could not feed a city that size.

As for the episode, it was pretty good. No major differences, as Tellegen wrote the ep (as he was there the whole time). and it practically started where it left off, 4 out of 5.

[Hears All]

you're gonna have the Judd fanboys all over your *** and the whole "YOU HATE JUDD!!!" speech.

That's what i'm really afraid of

[Fenix84]

This was a pretty good episode. I liked how Flynn got to bring up some wacky advice from his family members; he has been very underused so far.

It was nice to see Scott and Ziggy shopping and actually interacting with civilians. I completely agree that the Rangers have been too isolated in the garage. The fight against Ziggy's old criminal acquaintances was also unexpected, and a nice callback to his past.

RPM finally starts addressing Gem and Gemma's behavior in this episode. I've made clear my dislike for these two before, but they were much more tolerable for me this time around. Not only did Scott finally confront them, but they actually listened (as well as they could) and showed some character development.

Rating: 7.5/10

[Beast King]

I'd kill for more Flynn focus!!!

[Hears All]

I'd kill for more Flynn focus!!!

Its coming, he's getting one with Gemma (I can't remember which one is the girl)

[Fenix84]

Its coming, he's getting one with Gemma (I can't remember which one is the girl)

Gemma is the girl. It's actually a real name. Gem is, AFAIK, a made up name for her brother just to get them to sound alike.

[ShadowDragonRanger]

Alright, first Judd Lynn ep.
It's nice to see Gem and Gemma's preference for blowing things up and running headlong into situations addressed.
I appreciate seeing the attempt for the Sky Rev Megazord...but the zord fight *wobbles hand* meh. This is like the second lengthy zord bttle since the premiere and Handshake(?) but I wasn't enthralled.
I missed the first segmentso I had to rewatch everything...not bad. Seems like RPM is still going strong (like Crayfish said) I trust we'll have some great plot and character development coming *wink*
4/5...Good.

[AoBlue]

Great episode!

[malfion]

LAST TIME ON POWER RANGERS RPM(YES! FINALLY WE GET TO HEAR THAT AGAIN)...

-Wow, a gangster that knows martial arts..
-Grocery store fight was pretty awesome.
-Gem and Gemma break the door down "What are you doing here!?"
-Ziggy almost had it..almost.
-Unmorphed fights rock.
-The villains have gotten better. I enjoyed that segment.
-Lol Ziggy is kinda right. It should come together, not like Turbo where you have to be precise.
-LOL a traditional PR monster..lol the clown general made it.
-Not again..lol.
-They're like Beavis and Butthead
-I feel kinda sorry for those Grinders
-Wow, at the throw
-Oh God, are they filming that fight scene in that stupid quarry they've been using for the past...since Disney took over?
-It feels really weird seeing zords being used so many times in one episode. Thats going to detract from my score. But it is part of the quota so they're probably going to try to get as much of it out of the way as possible.
-THERES AN OCEAN IN THE WASTE!?
-Why was there vegetation in the surrounding zord fight area?
-The yellow rangers sentai movement thing "We couldn't let you have the fun" was...didn't fit at all, why was it even in the episode..
-Finally, Venjix is back.
-AHAHAHAHAHA....ow.
-Lol Venjix swoops in.
-Background music is awesome.
-Lol garment district
-wtf..how did they screw up combining the last time!?
-Skyrev looks amazing.
-Lol they killed Venjix.
-Ziggy is the funniest ranger in a long time. "Why waste a trip?"
-Nice ending though.

Overall, it would be hard to give this a super awesome "A" after the 2 story packed back to back ones we got in the past 2 weeks, but other than the overuse of megazords and the swimming zords thing...it was a pretty good followup. It kept Eddies style when the rangers were unmorphed, and I realize now, why people were afraid of Judd "ruining" the show. It isn't Judds work they're afraid of, its the Kalish seasons. Thats the confusion people have. They thought it would turn into an OO, or something, with too much sentai footage...but so far, it hasn't, so lets hope it stays that way.

The episode was mostly a break, before the next storyline focused episode.

This episode gets a B.

[Qarlf]

Overall this episode made me laugh yet still reminds me of Death note a little. There's so many comparison to the two. But that's beside the point now for my review. The beginning was awesome Dillon trying to get answer from the key he retrieved in the previous episode. Flynn trying to help but doesn't. :( But to the best part of the beginning "Where's Scott and Ziggy?" they are shopping for Doc K and her sweet tooth. Oh my... This was really a great episode to my eyes, I thought very little on this episode cause I was thinking that Eddie episode and Judd episode would be different but it really didn't seem different at all. Totally looking forward til next week.

[Beast King]

LAST TIME ON POWER RANGERS RPM(YES! FINALLY WE GET TO HEAR THAT AGAIN)...Didn't we hear that in "Rain" and "Fade to black"?

[malfion]

Didn't we hear that in "Rain" and "Fade to black"?

This one had more emphasis, and sounded like old school PR.

[RyanRXP]

Well, it's hard to actually criticize this episode, because as soon as you do, you're gonna have the Judd fanboys all over your *** and the whole "YOU HATE JUDD!!!" speech.


I am glad that I am not afraid.

This episode had some good points, but far more bad points.
I have always hated these zords, so this much zord footage is a huge negative. The new Megazord was very dumb. The whole cockpit in the head made no sense. It was never shown that these zords could form a single cockpit so it was very random. It also looked really bad when the rangers were shown in it. Everything about the zords in this episode was bad.
I really just want Gem and Gemma to go away for a long time(or maybe just never return)
The entire scene in the store should never have been made. It was pointless and dumb. Why are rangers fighting thieves? Why did Ziggy have to know the guy? Why did Ziggy morph at all? I know that it was just there to set up the rangers being upset with Gem and Gemma, but they could have done that much better.
And am I the only one who thought they tried to turn Venjix into Darth Vader? And why is Venjix just randomly walking around in a body? And why does he have no clue as to what is going on in his own factory? And since when did he make anyone else make his attack bots?

Overall, I voted this episode as poor, and I think that is the best way to describe this episode. And no, I am not just bashing Lynn, I think it was a poor effort by everyone in this episode(including the actors)

[Mr. Yellow]

I thought it was funny seeing Scott and Summer do Sousuke and Saki's signature movements.

Gem and Gemma's suits are incredibly shiny, I know they're Gold and Silver but yeesh, Dr. K must've invented some super secret chrome buffer!

[Razor]

1. Ziggy with the snacks? lol
2. Ziggy and Scott pwning those robbers:: awesome!
3. Gem and Gemma finally almost biting it? Well maybe they've learned their lesson about leaping before they look, so to speak.
4. Dr. K just relaxing? lol Does anyone know what she was eating?

[SolarisKnight222]

Dr.K was eating popcorn.

[Razor]

Dr.K was eating popcorn.

Oh. All right then.

[Beast King]

I just love how DR. K is becoming a lot more normal around the rangers!!!

[Mugenhunt]

--Where the hell are the Megazords swimming to? They're fighting right outside the dome, a place the Rangers have driven and walked to before. Why in God's name are they swimming?

So you missed K's line about how they're on an island in the wastelands, huh? That was explained in the show.

[malfion]

So you missed K's line about how they're on an island in the wastelands, huh? That was explained in the show.

In the map, where they show Corinth, the Ocean still exists.

And when they were at the beach looking area, earlier in Brothers Keeper...

We also have to assume that there are Oasis's+ bodies of water that still exist.

[O.92]

So you missed K's line about how they're on an island in the wastelands, huh? That was explained in the show.

Yup. Missed that line.

But that still doesn't make up for an extremely redundant 'Aquatic Mode'.

[malfion]

Yup. Missed that line.

But that still doesn't make up for an extremely redundant 'Aquatic Mode'.

You mean the bad CGI looking stuff.

The only bad thing about the episode was "too much megazord".

Thats it. The season is so far completely the same otherwise, which is excellent.

[Mr. Underachiever]

Judd is back. This episode just how similar Eddie and Judd are in their repsective writing styles.

Too bad Judd didn't write this episode. :rpmred:

[Mugenhunt]

We also have to assume that there are Oasis's+ bodies of water that still exist.

Indeed. Though I'm surprised that they didn't try to filter those scenes so it'd look more like the oceans are polluted. It did feel a bit out of sync with the rest of the setting to have clear blue water.

[Mr. CD]

The new Megazord was very dumb. The whole cockpit in the head made no sense. It was never shown that these zords could form a single cockpit so it was very random.
Is this really any different than any other megazords?


Why are rangers fighting thieves?
Because they were robbing the supermarket..


Why did Ziggy have to know the guy?
Through the Cartels.

[Mugenhunt]

Through the Cartels.

More importantly, to reiterate the fact that he used to be a criminal, which is a major element of his backstory.

And wow, Tellegen found a great way of implying death without having to say it in this script. "I thought Fresno Bob ghosted you!" Using 'ghosted' as synonym for 'killed' amuses me.

[Mr. Underachiever]

-Eddie Guzelian's name is officially out of the credits. I weep.
-The Dillon part in the beginning seemed out of place, since they don't do anything else with it in the episode. Is it gonna be like that for the next few episodes, where Dillon's subplot takes a backseat?
-Ziggy's finally learned how to fight! Well, technically, he had been fighting a lot better in the last few episodes, but it's nice to see that he's not so clumsy while doing it anymore. It was also cool that we got a callback to his mafia days, since the robbers were members of the five cartels.
-Interesting scene at the supermarket. But what was Ziggy planning to do after he morphed. His teleporting to the top of a crane couldn't have been his original intent.
-Better yet, WTF were Gem and Gemma planning to do? I know they're supposed to be trigger-happy and all, but were they actually gonna SHOOT those guys?
-Nice idea to make the balloon monster Crunch's idea. If Tenaya or Venjix had come up with it, I don't think it would have worked.
-They didn't really handle the twinspeak very well in this episode.
-Somebody said they should have filtered the footage of the megazords swimming so that it looked like the water was polluted. I agree with that.
-"This body has failed me for the last time." But it only failed once before that.
-The ending is probably the most "traditional PR" type ending we've gotten so far. I wonder if they'll do this for the rest of the season.

So, all in all, it was a decent episode, though nothing groundbreaking. Outside of the coda, which was definitely more "like PR," there wasn't much difference between this episode and some of the earlier episodes of the season. That's probably because this is a John Tellegen episode. Anyway, decent ep, 3/5.

[PowerOnyx]

Too bad Judd didn't write this episode. :rpmred:

Judd is EP now, so he gets the final word on what gets done in an episode once it's given it's limitations from the Disney higher-ups.

While Koichi is in fact an EP as well, he is the visual EP and Judd is the storyline EP.

I can't wait for the episode of RPM that says "written by Judd Lynn".

[Mr. Underachiever]

He didn't write this episode.

[RyanRXP]

Is this really any different than any other megazords?


Because they were robbing the supermarket..


Through the Cartels.

1. They have formed many other megazords using the same zords, if they were going to have a cockpit, they should have shown that ability by now. It was a very dumb idea that doesn't work at all. If there was no ability to form a cockpit with the other megazords(all which use the same exact zords), there should not be one in the megazord here.

And speaking of the zords, how were two giant heavy robots swimming? The idea that they needed to swim to this island made no sense at all. It would have been much better just to have the scene take place right outside the dome(as it wouldn't have effected the scene at all, just remove the swimming zords)

2. But that doesn't answer why they put that scene in the episode. There was no point at all to them fighting them and that is my issue. It added nothing to the episode and really should have just been replaced by another scene.

3. That is how, not why. There is no point for Ziggy to know a random thief. Why did they show that Ziggy knew this man?
Like I siad, this episode was poorly made and looked as if there wasn't much effort by anyone who took part in making it. I hope that this is just because of the transition between the EPs and the quality will go back up very soon.



I can't wait for the episode of RPM that says "written by Judd Lynn".

I hope that episode comes soon. Lynn is a very good writer and I can't take any more episodes like this one.

[PowerOnyx]

While it is true that Judd didn't write this episode. I still maintain some idea that Judd as EP is still watching over the storyline as he allows John to continue with RPM's theme. Judd is there to make sure the season goes smoothly.

[Mugenhunt]

He didn't write this episode.

Yes, but as Executive Producer he does have the authority to rewrite other people's scripts uncredited if necessary, and likewise is responsible for a lot of other production elements. This is the first episode that Judd has been totally responsible for, and not just finishing up what Eddie has started.

That being said, I think people are really shortchanging John Tellegen for his work on the series.

[Mr. Underachiever]

3. That is how, not why. There is no point for Ziggy to know a random thief. Why did they show that Ziggy knew this man?

What does it matter? It didn't take anything away from the episode, and it was a nice little callback to the earlier episodes. What's the problem? :rpmgreen:

[Mugenhunt]

1. They have formed many other megazords using the same zords, if they were going to have a cockpit, they should have shown that ability by now. Why? They hadn't combined all three Megazords before, so why would we see a cockpit prepared for the seven Rangers? Heck, just assume that before this episode Dr. K added a new cockpit, now that she had three megazords. It's not as if it's impossible for her to upgrade the zords.


And speaking of the zords, how were two giant heavy robots swimming?

With their arms and legs. They're humanoid, if they can walk and run, they can swim. Yes, they're heavy. But they're also strong enough to compensate, or else they'd be useless in a battle.


2. But that doesn't answer why they put that scene in the episode. There was no point at all to them fighting them and that is my issue.

It gave some character focus to Scott and Ziggy. It reiterated that the Rangers live in a city, and have to deal with things like buying groceries to survive. It let Ziggy remind the audience about his criminal past, and demonstrated that he's been improving as a fighter. It let Scott and Ziggy's approach to dealing with problems get contrasted with Gem and Gemma's. It also made for a change of pace.

That you didn't like it doesn't mean that there was no reason for it being there.

[RyanRXP]

What does it matter? It didn't take anything away from the episode, and it was a nice little callback to the earlier episodes. What's the problem? :rpmgreen:

It was a bad fight scene that did take a lot away from the episode. The whole point of the scene was for Gem and Gemma to cause problems, they could have done that in a much better way. It was also not a callback to an earlier episode at all, it was just pointless and a giant waste of time. It hurt the episode because of the fact that the time would have been better served if they were even just sitting around talking.

[ChronoMysticRanger]

They use the cockpit in the Zenith Megazord. I rewatched Dr. K again to confirm it and its there.

[RyanRXP]

Why? They hadn't combined all three Megazords before, so why would we see a cockpit prepared for the seven Rangers? Heck, just assume that before this episode Dr. K added a new cockpit, now that she had three megazords. It's not as if it's impossible for her to upgrade the zords.


It makes no sense, they have combined 5 of those zords before and it wasn't shown. Adding more zords makes it less likely, not more likely that something like this would be possible. And, no, it makes no sense for Dr K to randomly reshape the zords for a useless feature like a cockpit.




With their arms and legs. They're humanoid, if they can walk and run, they can swim. Yes, they're heavy. But they're also strong enough to compensate, or else they'd be useless in a battle.


But their weight is too much to be compensated. Like I said, it was dumb and never should have been put in. It is just another example of poor effort.


It gave some character focus to Scott and Ziggy. It reiterated that the Rangers live in a city, and have to deal with things like buying groceries to survive. It let Ziggy remind the audience about his criminal past, and demonstrated that he's been improving as a fighter. It let Scott and Ziggy's approach to dealing with problems get contrasted with Gem and Gemma's. It also made for a change of pace.

That you didn't like it doesn't mean that there was no reason for it being there.

1. It didn't give any any development to anyone. It was just a random fight scene that had no point.

2. No, it added nothing to the fact that they live in a city. It doesn't remind anyone of the past. All it did was waste time with a fight scene. And it didn't show anyone being a better fighter.

3. But we already know that they deal with issues differently so there was no point to this.

4. It was not a change of pace, it was just there becuase they were to lazy to atcually fill that time with anything meaningfull.

There is no reason for this scene to be here.




Once again, this is why I avoid these episode discussions, if you state anything you don't like about it, you have a bunch of people claiming how your opinion is wrong. I hated the episode and I said why, so now I am leaving this thread before a fight breaks out over nothing more than my opinion.

[KyoryuRed]

Dr.K was eating popcorn.

d'oh! my mistake.. lol i thought it was Cracker Jack or candy. good eye, SolarisKnight222 :D

[malfion]

It was a bad fight scene that did take a lot away from the episode. The whole point of the scene was for Gem and Gemma to cause problems, they could have done that in a much better way. It was also not a callback to an earlier episode at all, it was just pointless and a giant waste of time. It hurt the episode because of the fact that the time would have been better served if they were even just sitting around talking.

They really needed to take out/cut some of the zord scenes. The supermarket brawl was the best part of the episode in my opinion.

[pinkranger2000]

oooh... I just opened this thread at the last page and noticed that at least a little bit of the "Judd sucks, Eddie ruled" nonsense has started (this was in fact a slightly uneducated statement, I haven't read the whole thread).
Since when do we care enough about Megazords swimming to say that the scene takes away from the episode? certainly it's not the first time we see a megazord in/under water? (Haven't watched the episode, so it's also an uneducated statement of sorts, for now)

[Aeon87]

Well it wasn't bad it kept the trend of rpm going but i thought it lacked a bit of that umph that eddie put in it. New megazord formation, G9 or Sky mach funny i thought Gold and Silver's Megazord was called sky mach. i actually thought it was gonna be a mirror of that episode where mui gets captured and the go-ongers start to get along but turns out it wasn't anyway if it keeps going like this it shouldn't be to bad.

[Mr. White]

The ep was ok but now Gem and Gemma where getting on my nerves.... at least their gonna try and change now Judd did a good job with this ep 4/5:D

[PowerOnyx]

It was a bad fight scene that did take a lot away from the episode. The whole point of the scene was for Gem and Gemma to cause problems, they could have done that in a much better way. It was also not a callback to an earlier episode at all, it was just pointless and a giant waste of time. It hurt the episode because of the fact that the time would have been better served if they were even just sitting around talking.

Some fans will recognize the callback to the Power Rangers teams that were a Police Force.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

That's what i'm really afraid of

It doesn't particularly help that Overdrive is an Eddie apologist, which is the exact opposite of Judd sycophants. And there's no shame in loving the first half of RPM, but it's obvious he's not only biased in the opposite direction... He's screaming "discrimination!" if he's not allowed to state his opinion in peace. Way to be a political pundit.

It feels... Slightly different? But it's a Tellegen episode. It has all the hallmarks of a Tellegen episode. The man in the captain's chair has changed, nothing else.

[SolarisKnight222]

I hope Judd writes next week's episode.

[O.92]

He's screaming "discrimination!" if he's not allowed to state his opinion in peace.

And look at that episode discussion from Rangerboard. People were pointing fingers claiming "You hated it because it's a Judd episode" within the first 25 minutes after the episode aired! Just more of a reason I'm glad I stated what I did, because it did happen. Not here, and luckily so. (And I am not claiming that it didn't happen here because of my speech)

As for being an Eddie fanboy, I'm not but I might as well be because I enjoyed his work that damn much. But even I said (and will say again) that Eddie did have weak episodes, and upon re-watching this episode again, I'll take back what I said about it being the worst episode.

It ties for worst episode with Blitz.

[pinkranger2000]

Well, I've watched it, and it really wasn't that much different. It was a natural progression for all the characters involved (except Summer and Dillon, but it's a nice rest) I still love all Gem, Gemma, Flynn, Ziggy and Dr. K, and I'm even starting to like Scott too, and all I feared was that any of those characters would suffer any alterations.
It's pretty cool to me. I enjoyed it.

[Stormy]

Here's my take on the episode:

First off, I thought the episode was good, decent, but good. The fight scenes at the grocery store is really good and the megazord formation was really good, too. However, I'd like to point out a couple things that were bothering me about this episode:

1) I think the rangers (especially Dr. K) were being WAY too harsh on Ziggy. I felt like they hated him or something, and, personally, I think that was WAY too mean. I'm not saying this just to make Summer, Scott, Dillon, Flynn and Dr. K look like the bad guys here, but I'm just saying that they should at least try and be a little nicer to Ziggy and give him some credit. Whether he's a good fighter or not, Ziggy's on their team, get used to it.

And 2) I personally think Gem and Gemma's "Blow things up and ask questions later" motto is a bit too much. I think that they were a little too hyper and I kinda think that they should tone it down a bit, that's all I'm trying to say. But later on in the episode, I think their characters should develop later on.

I'm not trying to sound negative here, but that's just how I personally feel about this episode. I hope no one's mad at me.

[DrBravo2]

Well, it's hard to actually criticize this episode, because as soon as you do, you're gonna have the Judd fanboys all over your *** and the whole "YOU HATE JUDD!!!" speech.

That being said, this was easily the season's worst episode. I have never sat down to watch RPM, wishing the episode would end and that I hadn't rushed home from the gym to see it. That happened today. Weak plot, weak dialouge.

--Megazords crashing into each other? Really? That's the big "Holy ****, damn you Gem & Gemma" thing that causes malfunctions throughout the entire Megazord? We've taken huge explosions that don't do that before.

--Where the hell are the Megazords swimming to? They're fighting right outside the dome, a place the Rangers have driven and walked to before. Why in God's name are they swimming?

--The episode accomplished nothing. We got 0 progression through Dillon's stroyline, which is fine, but more importantly, it poorly executed progression through Gem & Gemma's "blow things up problem".

--I don't understand why Ziggy ended up at the top of those stairs when he teleported when he's proven himself to have gotten his teleporting trick down before. I guess it was a simple mess up?

Gem & Gemma seemed the same to me. This is the only place I see people saying that they acted different and more tolerable. I don't know why. They seem the same to me, which is fine by me.

I'll have to rewatch this episode again later. It just seemed...bad. Hopefully I'll come back around with different opinions.
I have no problem with you not liking the episode as long as you articulate your reasons, but your 4 complaints amount to 2 instances of Sentai footage, the episode focusing on Gem and Gemma instead of Dillon, and a single comedy moment from the beginning of the episode.

I don't see how that makes it "easily the season's worst episode".

[PowerOnyx]

And 2) I personally think Gem and Gemma's "Blow things up and ask questions later" motto is a bit too much. I think that they were a little too hyper and I kinda think that they should tone it down a bit, that's all I'm trying to say. But later on in the episode, I think their characters should develop later on.

That was actually touched upon within the episode. And we got to see more character from Gem and Gemma because of it.

[Stormy]

I understand very well, PowerOnyx. Like I said before, I'm not trying to be the worst critic around here, I'm just making my point.

[Archangel]

This was a fun episode and I certainly don't think it deserves much of the negative acclaim it's garnered thus far. While it's true the episode wasn't perfect, it was a fun one nonetheless.

The grocery store fight was great and it was refreshing to see Ziggy defend himself against the thug and still make it look quirky in contrast to the squirming he did in the first few episodes. I got to agree with Stormy on a point: many of the team members don't exactly treat him well...I guess it's his own, again, quirky nature that does it but I can't say. I mean, did he like crucify their pets or something because I can't exactly understand the hate myself. :/

Got to love Flynn. Despite being shooed away by a rather moody Dillon, the poor guy still maintains a friendly demeanor. The end where he helped Gem and Gemma repair the busted door at the grocery door was a clear indication of his kindness. The much beloved Scotsman deserves a bit more focus, no?

Dr. K's love for treats...ahh, her own funnies keep on growing. Seeing her munch on popcorn and lounge at her desk as a job well done at the end was kinda funny. She's a fun character in her own right.

[O.92]

I have no problem with you not liking the episode as long as you articulate your reasons, but your 4 complaints amount to 2 instances of Sentai footage, the episode focusing on Gem and Gemma instead of Dillon, and a single comedy moment from the beginning of the episode.

I don't see how that makes it "easily the season's worst episode".

I NEVER do full episode reviews. NEVER. You can look back through every other episode discussion if you want. But, if I'll please the crowd, why not do one today?

--We start the episode with Dillon's past and the keys. Then, it goes nowhere and gets dropped for the entire episode. I'm not a "We needz Dillon!!" person, but it seemed pointless.

--What really IS the point of the grocery scene? To learn that Doctor K loves sweets? We get introduced to a random, irrelevent thug, that just sucks up time from the episode. Then Gem & Gemma bust in, which I believe is to set up the Rangers' frustration or troubles with them, but it was poorly executed. I will say, however, that I did like the fact that Ziggy's past and criminal connections was referenced.

--Megazords crashing causes malfunctions throughout the entire Megazord? Sentai footage or not, it could have been either omitted, or not explained as "full malfunctions". It's just strange seeing the Megazords handle huge explosions, but can't take small bumps from each other.

--Testing the Megazords was a real nice touch, but as I said I've stated above, I'm not really a fan of how it was executed with the malfunctions.

--Tenaya, Crunch, and Shifter bore me. And this is not something new that started in this episode. And since when did Venjix assign others to make his attack bots? I'll let it slide since Venjix presenting the Balloon Bot would have been real bad. A plus for letting Crunch do that.

--Another plus for the whole "Balloon Bot may be contaminated" thing.

--Did Tenaya's little hand weapon just bring an entire Megazord down? Lame.

--Countless minutes of Zord footage putting me to sleep.

--Aquatic Mode is dumb and will always be dumb. IMO.

--Looks like badass Gem & Gemma that have defeated Generation 16 Sawbots can't take Generation 3 Textile Bots.

--Poor dialouge, poorly executed plot for Gem & Gemma, no progression at all (aside from the Megazord). They want to blow stuff up at the beginning of the episode and...well, what do they want to do at the end? Very minimal progression since at least the Rangers could hold them back.

So there. Coming from someone who's loved almost every RPM episode so far, ranking this episode as one of the worst wasn't very hard (as I've corrected my statement, tying this as the worst with Blitz). There were a few thing I liked, which I noted, but other than that, I can't say I enjoyed this episode. Again, here's hoping next week's is more pleasing.

[The 2nd Evil]

An episode that I not only enjoyed, but want to re-watch multiple times?

Hooray! Power Rangers is back!

[unomedjd]

this episode was just ok for me. it all just seemed a bit random and pieced together that kind of somehow fit together. or was forced to fit together. or it seemed like i was watching 3 different episodes at once: the beginning with dillon, the ziggy/scott grocery store, and gem and gemma problems. there were things i didn't like and did like. but you can definitely tell the difference between this episode and the first half. this isn't a negative, its just a different energy i guess is the only way i can put it.

i still don't get gem and gemma. i still don't understand why they are even characters right now. other than to be 2 additional rangers and an additional megazord. it really seems like they just get in the way rather than helping. and i haven't really seen any character development from them. i'm hoping they don't get the shaft like Dom and only get a few episodes to develop a character. but as of right now, i still don't like them. hopefully that will change in a few episodes.

but the 2 best things about the episode for me was the robbery scene and flynn's family advice.

[Fenix84]

--We start the episode with Dillon's past and the keys. Then, it goes nowhere and gets dropped for the entire episode. I'm not a "We needz Dillon!!" person, but it seemed pointless.

It didn't need to go anywhere. Dillon has already received the lion's share of the attention in RPM. This was a mere mention, which is better than nothing because it shows that the characters actually care (and it was stated that Dillon was becoming more withdrawn and obsessed).

Know what's REALLY off-putting to me? A significant story not getting mentioned for episode after episode, and then suddenly being a big deal again. If only SPD did more mere mentions.

This was a nice middle ground between the story being dropped for an episode, and Dillon getting another focus. The scene also gave Flynn, who has been very underused, some nice lines.


--What really IS the point of the grocery scene? To learn that Doctor K loves sweets? We get introduced to a random, irrelevent thug, that just sucks up time from the episode. Then Gem & Gemma bust in, which I believe is to set up the Rangers' frustration or troubles with them, but it was poorly executed. I will say, however, that I did like the fact that Ziggy's past and criminal connections was referenced.

That was the point, and I don't see how it was "poorly executed." So far, Gem and Gemma have been remarkably capable psychos. This episode needed to establish more of a pattern of failure in order to get its point across.

I didn't have a problem with Scott and Ziggy getting a couple minutes to themselves. I dislike the idea that the show is lacking in focus if it doesn't completely focus on one story or one character. PR is an ensemble show. Spreading the attention around makes the episode more varied and interesting, and makes sure most of the characters aren't just ciphers with nothing to do (which is one of the biggest problems with the way PR episodes are often written).


--Megazords crashing causes malfunctions throughout the entire Megazord? Sentai footage or not, it could have been either omitted, or not explained as "full malfunctions". It's just strange seeing the Megazords handle huge explosions, but can't take small bumps from each other.

We don't know the mechanics of how Zords link up. This episode implied that it was a pretty complex process, with "bio fields" being mentioned and the Zords needing to energize and synch up just right.


And since when did Venjix assign others to make his attack bots? I'll let it slide since Venjix presenting the Balloon Bot would have been real bad. A plus for letting Crunch do that.

What's wrong with a leader delegating once in a while? Crunch displayed his desire to make stupid robots in his first appearance. This was a clever way to use up Sentai footage that would have made Venjix look like a goof.


--Did Tenaya's little hand weapon just bring an entire Megazord down? Lame.

This is a pretty valid criticism. Especially when that Megazord is made up of the awe-inspiring "Doomsday Bot."


--Looks like badass Gem & Gemma that have defeated Generation 16 Sawbots can't take Generation 3 Textile Bots.

The robot being "Generation 3" did seem strange to me. But the villains have used older stuff before. A Generation 5 robot was used in the premiere, even though Dillon and Tenaya are Generation 7. The Satbot in "Blitz" is more than a year old.

Also, RPM's treatment of technology itself is nonsensical. Higher tech does not always equate to better. A 1940s atomic bomb is more powerful than the GPS guided bombs the Air Force is dropping these days.

[Fenix84]

And speaking of the zords, how were two giant heavy robots swimming?

How do giant robots do gymnastics?


The idea that they needed to swim to this island made no sense at all. It would have been much better just to have the scene take place right outside the dome(as it wouldn't have effected the scene at all, just remove the swimming zords)

Setting the battle right outside the dome would have made Tenaya look like an idiot. She was testing a weapon, remember? The possibility that they could be attacked was even brought up by Shifter. It was the Rangers who attacked them this time, not the other way around.


2. But that doesn't answer why they put that scene in the episode. There was no point at all to them fighting them and that is my issue. It added nothing to the episode and really should have just been replaced by another scene.

It used Sentai footage up. If the show had an unlimited budget it wouldn't need to use up goofy Sentai footage at all, but that's not the reality of it. It also showed the Rangers actually needing to take time to get to the battle, which was appropriate because they were racing to save Gem and Gemma.


3. That is how, not why. There is no point for Ziggy to know a random thief. Why did they show that Ziggy knew this man?

Why not? It gave Ziggy something to say. It mentioned his criminal backstory, which has been noticeably dropped after playing such a big part in the first six episodes.


1. It didn't give any any development to anyone. It was just a random fight scene that had no point.

2. No, it added nothing to the fact that they live in a city. It doesn't remind anyone of the past. All it did was waste time with a fight scene. And it didn't show anyone being a better fighter.

3. But we already know that they deal with issues differently so there was no point to this.

4. It was not a change of pace, it was just there becuase they were to lazy to atcually fill that time with anything meaningfull.

There is no reason for this scene to be here.

Saying "nuh uh!" to someone else's reasoned points isn't a rebuttal. The facts are that Ziggy did show improvement as a fighter, a callback to his past was made, and it actually showed the Rangers having to deal with civilian issues such as shopping for a change.

[O.92]

That was the point, and I don't see how it was "poorly executed." So far, Gem and Gemma have been remarkably capable psychos. This episode needed to establish more of a pattern of failure in order to get its point across.

Because it didn't exactly establish the idea that Gem & Gemma were relentless or "failing". Showing them run off into the wastelands without a plan shows relentlessness. Showing them blow up the Balloon Bot shows relentlessness. But showing them bust open a door when they had no idea what was going on? It was a poor way to get the whole plot moving, but luckily it got better from there.


I didn't have a problem with Scott and Ziggy getting a couple minutes to themselves.

It was too random and out of place for me. But I understand your side of it too.


This was a clever way to use up Sentai footage that would have made Venjix look like a goof.

And as I stated, a plus for that.


The robot being "Generation 3" did seem strange to me. But the villains have used older stuff before. A Generation 5 robot was used in the premiere, even though Dillon and Tenaya are Generation 7. The Satbot in "Blitz" is more than a year old.

But it's still Generation 3. And required a bigass new Megazord formation to destroy and kicked Gem & Gemma's ***.

[Fenix84]

Because it didn't exactly establish the idea that Gem & Gemma were relentless or "failing". Showing them run off into the wastelands without a plan shows relentlessness. Showing them blow up the Balloon Bot shows relentlessness. But showing them bust open a door when they had no idea what was going on? It was a poor way to get the whole plot moving, but luckily it got better from there.

It was the first instance within the episode to establish the pattern. And frankly it IS very reckless for them to blow open a door planning to do God knows what to two unpowered humans. Kinda scary actually, if you think about it.


t was too random and out of place for me.

Random? The Rangers said they were shopping, the junk food was brought up again several times throughout the episode, and the scene tied in with Gem and Gemma.


But it's still Generation 3. And required a bigass new Megazord formation to destroy and kicked Gem & Gemma's ***.

Higher tech doesn't always mean stronger. I already went over this. The Doomsday Bot itself must be older than all this "Generation ____" stuff, given Dr. K's familiarity with it and its obvious compatibility with all the Rangers' Zords, which were designed years ago.

[Quark]

Overdrive, the self full filling prophecy has come trrrueeeee!

[O.92]

It was the first instance within the episode to establish the pattern. And frankly it IS very reckless for them to blow open a door planning to do God knows what to two unpowered humans. Kinda scary actually, if you think about it.

As in relentlessness, I meant their whole "blow things up or do this now and ask questions later" thing. Their relentlessness to blow things up really. That was their problem in this episode, no? Knocking a door down to join a fight doesn't exactly demonstrate this problem.

Although yes, the way you put it is kinda scary. Especially since it's Gem and Gemma.


Random? The Rangers said they were shopping, the junk food was brought up again several times throughout the episode, and the scene tied in with Gem and Gemma.

Correct. And the shopping had what to do with the plot? The junk food had what to do with the plot? How can you say that in this episode, 2 Rangers that were not of focus going shopping for Doctor K's favorite food is not random?

And yes, the purpose was the whole Gem & Gemma thing, but as I've stated, it was poorly executed.

IMO.


Higher tech doesn't always mean stronger. I already went over this. The Doomsday Bot itself must be older than all this "Generation ____" stuff, given Dr. K's familiarity with it and its obvious compatibility with all the Rangers' Zords, which were designed years ago.

Although you are correct, I think the entire fandom has been living off the idea that the higher the generation, the more powerful. To say that isn't the case now, 19 episodes in, would be a bit odd. But you could be correct with your "theory".

[BurgundyRanger]

Generation 3/4/whatever ... I probably should know this ... but how can you tell?

[Beast King]

--Countless minutes of Zord footage putting me to sleep.And it was only two days ago that people were complaining about the MZ fights being too short, I'm guessing that Disney can't afford to waste the footage.

[Quark]

Didn't get to watch the episode until just now. Guess i'll throw my hat in the ring. Just a couple thoughts reading the responses here.

Ziggy fighting the Yo-Yo Brothers gang member had no bearing on the plot. So what? I thought it was a fantastic character moment. We got to see Ziggy laugh in the face of what he was so afraid of in the premiere, and shows genuine character development.

The whole Dr. K loves sweets thing really kind of threw me off. Maybe it can be interpreted it as K slowly willing to let herself enjoys some of the small pleasures left in life?

We got back the Tenaya 7 we saw briefly during Ranger Yellow. The one that's ambitious and with her own motives. Thank you. I love when Shifter and Crunch are actually thrown in the thick of what's going on. Using Crunch as a lampshade for the ridiculous monster design was a nice callback to the premiere. Tenaya and Shifter's dialogue exchange towards the end of the episode were particularly amusing.

I enjoyed this episode more than Belly of the Beast. In fact, I enjoyed it as much as most any "Eddie episode." Seriously guys, let's try and keep the unfounded Juddhate to a minimum. Overdrive, there's a reason this is one of the only episode you've posted at length about.

[malfion]

The next few episodes will go back to regular style ones(like only one zord fight at the end) so we shouldn't be seeing any major complaints from then on(Only thing I disliked was that the megazord footage was too long). Other than that, its nowhere near as bad as its being made out to be.

[Mr. Underachiever]

I don't know why people think the reaction to this episode has to do with Judd hate. While I'm sure that's true for some people, I think it has more to do with the fact that, ever since "Embodied," we've been getting intense, fast paced episodes, and this one was a bit slower. But I don't think that has anything to do with the EP change. I think we would have gotten a slower paced episode even if Eddie were still showrunner.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

In the map, where they show Corinth, the Ocean still exists.

And when they were at the beach looking area, earlier in Brothers Keeper...

We also have to assume that there are Oasis's+ bodies of water that still exist.

I'm curious if Corinth has elaborate desalinization plants to draw their water supply from the ocean. It seems logical, given how much of the local environment for the northeastern quadrant of the US has been rendered uninhabitable by the Machine Syndicate. We've seen Corinth's hydraulic circulatory system, and if it allowed Grinders to enter from the outside... Clearly they're taking in water from outside of the dome, rather than channeling from wells and perpetually recycling the waste water. I can't recall offhand, but I flat out presume the bay visible inside of the city (again, as seen in Rain) does connect to the Atlantic Ocean. That the dome actually extends beyond the periphery of Corinth to Boston Harbor.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

That being said, I think people are really shortchanging John Tellegen for his work on the series.

It took five years, BUT THE REAL JOHN TELLEGEN IS BACK. This episode was easily at a Ninja Storm or Dino Thunder level of writing.

[Beast King]

I think it has more to do with the fact that, ever since "Embodied," we've been getting intense, fast paced episodes, and this one was a bit slower. But I don't think that has anything to do with the EP change. I think we would have gotten a slower paced episode even if Eddie were still showrunner.Whats wrong with slow paced episodes? Better than rushed ones.

[Quark]

I don't know why people think the reaction to this episode has to do with Judd hate. While I'm sure that's true for some people, I think it has more to do with the fact that, ever since "Embodied," we've been getting intense, fast paced episodes, and this one was a bit slower. But I don't think that has anything to do with the EP change. I think we would have gotten a slower paced episode even if Eddie were still showrunner.

I guess that's a reasonable explanation for why it might have turned some people off. Still, I think the tendency i've seen for people to judge this episode harsher than an 'Eddie episode' is the main culprit (docking points because robots 'realistically' couldn't swim? I think i'm gonna be sick) Which is weird, considering neither of the linking episodes had their EP as the writer.

[BanditHiro]

I guess that's a reasonable explanation for why it might have turned some people off. Still, I think the tendency i've seen for people to judge this episode harsher than an 'Eddie episode' is the main culprit (docking points because robots 'realistically' couldn't swim? I think i'm gonna be sick) Which is weird, considering neither of the linking episodes had their EP as the writer.

as neither a judd lynn or eddie guzilean fanfag i think this episode was not that great and one the worst of the season. but again considering this is still Power Rangers not all the episodes are going to be good so hopefully it improves.

[Mr. Underachiever]

It took five years, BUT THE REAL JOHN TELLEGEN IS BACK. This episode was easily at a Ninja Storm or Dino Thunder level of writing.

Wait, does that include "Ocean Alert"? :reddino:


Whats wrong with slow paced episodes? Better than rushed ones.

Nothing's WRONG with them, but after five or six fast-paced, action-packed episodes, a slower one is just like, "meh."


Still, I think the tendency i've seen for people to judge this episode harsher than an 'Eddie episode' is the main culprit (docking points because robots 'realistically' couldn't swim? I think i'm gonna be sick)

I can agree with that. It seems the people that are complaining about the "sillier" aspects of the episodes (the megazords swimming, the use of the balloon monster) are acting like Eddie wouldn't have used those things. As if he would have completely cut out any goofy aspect of Go-Onger that he could (which he even admitted wouldn't be the case before the show debuted).

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I actually liked Ocean Alert, and that also had one of John's hallmarks -- bad topical references.

[The 2nd Evil]

I love that the Balloon-Bot was Crunch's. It fits right in with his "schematic" in the premiere that had a palm tree and the sun shining in the sky.

[Beast King]

Is it just me or do the writers follow sentai in a different way than we think? like when i saw "Ghosts" even though not much Go-onger footage was used, when Venjix came with Shifter (American footage), i noticed they copied Go-onger by having the same characters appear in that very moment in RPM, so I'm wondering, does this by any chance save money for Disney? by replicating moments with certain characters?.

[Mugenhunt]

My theory seems to be that the writers are scripting scenes so that sentai combat footage could be used, but Koichi is just filming original scenes anyways, so their efforts are for naught.

[Thorn]

I really liked the scene in the grocery store, but I couldn't help thinking that it shouldn't be there. Shouldn't the food they have be provided to everyone in suitable portions, so nobody goes without? Living in a dome should change things. Seriously, what if someone bought all the food, would everybody else have to starve?! Heh. The villains should totally do that.
Huh.. they store the candy right next to the fruits?

I did think about how much megazord footage was used in this episode, and I really hate those megazord fights (looks like small lego things, hold up by strings), but I actually wasn't bothered by it. I'm not sure why. Maybe I just watched this in a good mood =)

Well, well. Some people seemed to have hated 'Three's a crowd', while I was thinking something like "This episode is the best so far! 8D".
But I don't really think that.. I think ô.ô

[Beast King]

Huh.. they store the candy right next to the fruits?The store i shop at is even worse, Cleaning products right in front of frozen foods.

[Jed Raven]

But their weight is too much to be compensated. Like I said, it was dumb and never should have been put in. It is just another example of poor effort.


That so much time is being wasted whining about how the Zords 'swam' is ridiculous. You never saw them swimming, only emerging from the water. Is it too much effort to imagine they walked across the sea bed?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

The notion of Megazords swimming isn't silly, we've seen Zords propel underwater under thruster power on repeated occasions. I think fans are more troubled by the notion that they're moving through water while standing upright, thus the insinuation they're paddling and propelling the Zords forward by the strength of their upper bodies. Which is not just physically impossible in a more Looney Tunes way than PR's usual defiance of physics, but seems so unlike the show's usual method of underwater motion.

Scott CALLS IT Submarine Mode, but they are not fully submersed. I think they are basically trudging through relatively shallow waters in the harbor, so it's not like they're flat out in the ocean. It looks strange, but I can live. Their arms are breaking the surface in order to minimize resistance. It looks so unusual precisely because the water is shallow enough that they can't be fully immersed, so they keep the Megazords standing upright. Lower body propels via thrusters (the usual method), upper body breaks the waves.

[Beast King]

Wait a minute, outside the dome shouldn't the water have been cut off? I mean if there is water it means that people could survive out there.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

You can't drink salt water. It KILLS anything that isn't sea life due to the high salt content. That's why the costs of desalinization keeps most desert countries adjacent to oceans from having unlimited liquid (ha!) resources. Similarly, there's a reason SoCal doesn't just take everything it needs from the Pacific. Just putting aside the industrial waste, commercial sea detritus and sewage issues, the water ITSELF is lethal. If the water in Boston Harbor (and thus the Atlantic Ocean) is basically toxic due to intentional sabotage caused by Venjix, then life beyond the dome is unfeasible. Even the fish would be dead, so there's nothing to live on even with undrinkable water.

Obviously the rain is NOT acidic -- Dillon was collecting water from somewhere before he found the city, and obviously the forests are hanging on at the fringes of each dust bowl -- so it looks like natural springs and many private areas remained uncontaminated while the Machine Syndicate focused on collapsing the largest supplies on the planet, thus impeding human civilization's redevelopment. As Derik as said, RPM represents a first-stage global catastrophe, but it is not on par with the state of the world beyond Millennium City.

[PRangerX]

You can't drink salt water. It KILLS anything that isn't sea life due to the high salt content. That's why the costs of desalinization keeps most desert countries adjacent to oceans from having unlimited liquid (ha!) resources. Similarly, there's a reason SoCal doesn't just take everything it needs from the Pacific. Just putting aside the industrial waste, commercial sea detritus and sewage issues, the water ITSELF is lethal. If the water in Boston Harbor (and thus the Atlantic Ocean) is basically toxic due to intentional sabotage caused by Venjix, then life beyond the dome is unfeasible. Even the fish would be dead, so there's nothing to live on even with undrinkable water.

Obviously the rain is NOT acidic -- Dillon was collecting water from somewhere before he found the city, and obviously the forests are hanging on at the fringes of each dust bowl -- so it looks like natural springs and many private areas remained uncontaminated while the Machine Syndicate focused on collapsing the largest supplies on the planet, thus impeding human civilization's redevelopment. As Derik as said, RPM represents a first-stage global catastrophe, but it is not on par with the state of the world beyond Millennium City.

Its going to be interesting to see what humanity does once the Syndicate is defeated. I assume they will embark on a long project of terraforming. And while that is going on, build sister cities just like Corinth. Seems like a worthwhiled project for Doctor K to devote the rest of her life too.

[O.92]

Overdrive, there's a reason this is one of the only episode you've posted at length about.

Like I said, I never do full episode reviews. But then I was called out on. "You can't say it's bad without more reasons!" That was the only reason I did my full episode review. I had no intentions of doing one yesterday morning.


You never saw them swimming, only emerging from the water. Is it too much effort to imagine they walked across the sea bed?

No. There was a scene with them swimming.

[ForeverBlue]

Another awesome episode! :D

[mnikolic]

All right! Giant Megazords swimming! It kind of reminds me of the Dragonzord & Megazord battle against that monster in the season 1 finale.

The episode was just awesome! This is the true PR we've all been hoping for!
A little socializing and not just fighting all of the time! :D

[Thrax]

Awesome episode

Well i begin with the Opening the name of Eddies is not there anymore

Tenaya 7 make is own planes t odestroy the rangers i liked that aprouch
Tenaya dont obey of orders of others generals
I liked to see the rangers testing the new megazord configuration
Crunch robot is funny
Tenaya test is own weapons really cool
The battle of the rangers vs Tenaya and Shifler really awesome
Venjix sees the unthorized attack of the rangers
The new megazord formation is awesome

[Taiki Fujiwara]

i guess there's a clear divide in opinions for this episode...
i do agree that it is rather oh-kay, but i did enjoy it though...
to be honest, i liked the slow pacing and "reality" of this episode than most of the episodes where the rangers just hang around in the garage and fight only Grinders...
to have them face real civilian situations are cool, it reminds me of MMPR/ Saban days which is cool.

my opinion as to why we had unnecessary scenes like the Dillon scene and Ziggy's past is maybe cos Judd wants to connect the dots and not want the viewer to think that he'll turn the show 180' just cos he took over...

for once, the twins did not crack me up, instead, Scott did with his annoyed expressions...LOL (^o^)

Gem said "SUCKA!"... woot!!!

[Thrax]

Megazords swim really awesome, reminds like in NS when we see the Megazord in ocean in Return of the Thunder par III

[Beast King]

NS one looked nicer though.

[Taiki Fujiwara]

oooh, for got something...
Dillon didn't get his Yellow Lollipop...

and the expression on Ziggy's face at the end...
the "What?... ugh..." face...:lol:

[Thrax]

The names of the Megazord really cool, Skyrev Megazord, and have a awesome design of him

Well Venjix in no aware of Tenaya as made around of is evil lair i think in the next episode, Venjix will change to a new body i imagine what Venjix will do of is old body form i think will be awesome if Venjix destroyer right there front of is generals and will be cool, if Venjix punish Tenaya 7 in the next episode for her make this attack with out is permission

This formations of Megazord combine remind me a lot of PROO megazords formations

[Fenix84]

But their weight is too much to be compensated. Like I said, it was dumb and never should have been put in. It is just another example of poor effort.

That so much time is being wasted whining about how the Zords 'swam' is ridiculous. You never saw them swimming, only emerging from the water. Is it too much effort to imagine they walked across the sea bed?

You messed up the quote tags here. I didn't complain about the Zords swimming, it was RyanXP who said those sentences.

As the others have explained, the Zords probably weren't paddling with their arms anyway.

[Beast King]

In Go-onger they were!!! :D

[pinkranger2000]

Do the people complaining about giant Robots being unable to swimm, as if it was a fact, know that Giant Robots don't actually exist right? And as figments of imagination, they can do whatever they want to, right?

[bobtherandomguy]

people want some semblence of logic in their giant robot shows you can't fault them for it

[Speedbreaker]

Meh, I try not to overthink things. The cube-square laws means that the Megazords should be unable to move like they do on land, let alone in water. It's not like they were wearing giant water wings or one of those duck-shaped life-preservers (I wouldn't put it past Go-Onger to do that).

[bobtherandomguy]

I didn't mind the episode, it certainly wasn't the best, but it wasn't horrible, at times I did find myself wishing it would go by faster though, near the middle, but I can't recall really why, it just overall seems very forgetable to me

[Beast King]

I got a real old school PR vibe from the end scene, it felt good to actually see them not on some kind of mission for once!!

[Diz]

Decent episode, nothing groundbreaking.

I find it weird that after a new megazord formation last week, there's yet another one this week. Wow.

Submarine mode? WHat can't these things do? They fly, they swim, they destroy enemies...can they make a decent peanut butter sandwich or make Julienne fries? :)

I'm not buying the entire "Summer x Dillon" and "K x Ziggy" whatever romance lines. Sorry, but K is adorable and stuff...but she's still frigid...and I'm not liking it.

I liked the beginning bit with Ziggy and the thugs - he can fight!!! He's good! He's learning! I always root for the bad guy (better to say anti-hero) and the underdog, so this time, I was rooting for Ziggy.

All in all, after watching it twice, I'll give it a 7.5 out of 11...because 11 is louder than ten. Please...tell me someone understands that reference!

[Beast King]

Plus it was good to see that he isn't really done with the Cartels!! My god, all this thinking of Ziggy's sweets has made me hungry,

Cookie anyone?

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:D

[bobtherandomguy]

Spinal Tap, its been referenced constantly for the last 25 years or so, I liked Ziggy's fighting style, it seemed very defensive, I thought it fit his character well, making sure the opponent messes up and then using it against them

[pinkranger2000]

Submarine mode? WHat can't these things do? They fly, they swim, they destroy enemies...can they make a decent peanut butter sandwich or make Julienne fries? :)

I'm not buying the entire "Summer x Dillon" and "K x Ziggy" whatever romance lines. Sorry, but K is adorable and stuff...but she's still frigid...and I'm not liking it.

Judging by what we discovered about Dr. K's eating habits this week, they probably do both things.

And I'm not buying the romance either. I like my Dr. K mean and alone, thank you very much.

[terrierlee]

I'm really glad there are some who aren't buying the romance either. I like to stay open when it comes to romance, but when it's getting forced down our throats it seriously turns me off of the pairing.

Personally, I can't even see Ziggy and Dr. K together. I just see Ziggy trying to befriend Dr. K and she's totally against it.

But dude. Why is everyone so mean to Ziggy lately? I vote the Boom Twins take him out for some happy times.

[Stormy]

I totally agree 1,000%!

[bobtherandomguy]

Ziggy's afraid of Gem and Gemma, I'm almost certain of it

[terrierlee]

Not scared enough, judging by this episode.

[Thrax]

About of that explosion who target Tenaya and Shifter i think maybe as Venjix who attack them

[Celebril]

Hi all,

After the developments of the last several episodes, you shouldn't be surprised to see things slow down a bit. This was a bridge episode more than anything, and would have likely happened regardless of the EP. It turns attention to other areas while not forgetting the sister thing. It slows down the action a bit, which is something you want to do. You orchestrate it in peaks and valleys.

It also gives the other characters some development time. Three important areas, we see in particular:

* Ziggy has come a long way from the squirrely little con we saw in the first episode. He can fight now, and hold his own. He's not the - let's face it - coward he was in the beginning.

* Dr. K's sweet tooth was amusing. Also the bit of loosening up we saw at the end of it. We know so little about her at the moment, any tidbit is interesting. I'm other than she plays violin, is a genius, is a sweets addict, and wears bunny slippers, what else do we know about her? Well, yeah... she did nearly destroy the world, but everyone's allowed a mistake now and then.

* Tanaya. No one has noted this yet, but all is not well in Bad-Guy-Land. Her initiative definitely honked off Venjix. That one of his generals followed along with her didn't help. Don't forget she was quite ready to step in when she thought she had a path to the top. Incidentally, who was it that blasted her? It never makes it clear, but my thought is that it was Venjix expressing its displeasure with her.

* The Boom Twins: Whoever came up with that name deserves a cookie. The simply could not just continue as they were, so it's nice to see some brakes being put on their "enthusiasm."

Anyway, I would expect to see a shift in focus for awhile to character stories with the others before we get back to the primary story arc, which seems to be the whole Dillon mystery. It's been awhile since we've seen any real development of Flin, for example. Or real development of Summer outside of where her story intersects Dillon. The whole Scott and his father situation is still hanging out there, as well. So expect to see some stand-alone eps before we get back to major "arc" stories.

[Neo Aguni]

*Dr. K wears bunny slippers,.

Actually if you go back and look those aren't bunny slippers, they're doggy slippers.

[Tommy Lawson]

I think one of the signs there's been a change in executive producers is noting the point in the episode the Sky Rev Megazord is formed, and when the fight is over. One of the trademarks of many (but not all) the Eddie Guzelian produced episodes, is that the Megazord fight would often take place where the "epilogue" part for episodes in the previous seasons would occur- after the Megazord fight was completed in Act III. In this episode, the way it was setup allows for a simple but effective insight into Gem and Gemma's character growth with the Rangers as the epilogue - that slowly, they are learning they are becoming part of a overall team.

[Mr. Yellow]

Actually if you go back and look those aren't bunny slippers, they're doggy slippers.

???

http://i30.tinypic.com/1qshux.jpg

[bobtherandomguy]

Cruger should have wore slippers

[Neo Aguni]

???

http://i30.tinypic.com/1qshux.jpg

Not that Doggy,but you know what I mean.

[DoctorKosmic]

This was a decent episode, even if people are complaining about the need for the Zords to be in sync when we've never seen that before.

Personally, I think it's fine. For the Zords created by Doctor K, we needed the Flux Overthrusters, but since Venjix created this one, naturally they would need to test it out.

I think that the first time that Zords combine, a degree of synchronisation is needed, but once they've combined for the first time, the configuration is saved into the Zord, so after that, they can just make it "come together"

Although, I'm not sure how consistent this theory is with Megazord configurations in other seasons.

Plus, Gem and Gemma are insane, so you could also chalk it up to that.

I loved when K was taking away all the sweets from Ziggy, and even took the lollipop that was in his mouth. I can totally imagine a Helga Pataki moment when K leaves the room and realises she has a lollipop that was in Ziggy's mouth.

It's also nice to see K lightening up, and her and Zig's little jabs at eachother seem a lot more playful now.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It intrigues me to consider the RPM fleet requires psychological synchronization the same as the Battleborgs and Red Battlezord. Though I agree, I think once the initial configurations are achieved they are "locked" into the pattern buffers and can be automatically downloaded into the minds of the series operators. Like a gamma brain wave, it's the automatic and unconscious perception of a "whole" independent of the physical hardwiring between Ranger and Megazord. And yes, since Venjix created the key component of their latest Megazord and BOTH of its operators are insane...

[Beast King]

As a matter of fact, this is the most zord action we have ever got out of RPM, so i am actually happy about it, hopefully Judd can make the zords a lot more important to the lives of the rangers.

[RyanRXP]

hopefully Judd can make the zords a lot more important to the lives of the rangers.

And that is my greatest fear. At least we knew that Eddie hated the zords and would do anything to minimize their role, but now we have no clue as to what role they will have.

[Beast King]

So the reason for short MZ fights was because Eddie hated them? With all due respect to Mr Guzelian, The zords are supposed to be what makes PR, PR, I mean try removing the zords, it would be like having a peice missing from the puzzle, if he didn't like them he shouldn't have put them in, instead of having us go through terrible short MZ fights.

[RyanRXP]

So the reason for short MZ fights was because Eddie hated them? With all due respect to Mr Guzelian, The zords are supposed to be what makes PR, PR, I mean try removing the zords, it would be like having a peice missing from the puzzle, if he didn't like them he shouldn't have put them in, instead of having us go through terrible short MZ fights.

He needs to sell toys, that is why they are there. I don't think he has a problem with zords, just these zords. He set out to make a serious season and got the least serious zords possible. Now if they were just your basic zord(as in ones that don't look like they are made by 3 year olds) he wouldn't have minimized them as much.

Now, I don't know him personally, so I can't say for certain if he hated the zords, but he posted here that had issues with their look, and with their role being as small as they were, I am only assuming that he hated them.

[DoctorKosmic]

It intrigues me to consider the RPM fleet requires psychological synchronization the same as the Battleborgs and Red Battlezord. Though I agree, I think once the initial configurations are achieved they are "locked" into the pattern buffers and can be automatically downloaded into the minds of the series operators. Like a gamma brain wave, it's the automatic and unconscious perception of a "whole" independent of the physical hardwiring between Ranger and Megazord. And yes, since Venjix created the key component of their latest Megazord and BOTH of its operators are insane...

Hmm, that is interesting, Chris. The Battleborgs never even crossed my mind.

On the subject of things being downloaded into the minds of Rangers, I'm guessing that the term "Zord" is one.. but how exactly does that work?

Did Zordon somehow upload a sort of Ranger lexicon to the Morphing Grid? But that's assuming Zordon even created the term Zord.. because IIRC, weren't the Shogunzords referred to as the lost Zords of Zordnia?

What's your opinion on this, Chris?

[Mugenhunt]

I suspect that Zordon was not the name he was born with, but that he adopted that name after an adventure on Zordnia. Likewise, that the Rangers' helmets have HUDs that list things like the names of their weapons or zord configurations.

[Neo Aguni]

I loved when K was taking away all the sweets from Ziggy, and even took the lollipop that was in his mouth. I can totally imagine a Helga Pataki moment when K leaves the room and realises she has a lollipop that was in Ziggy's mouth.

It's also nice to see K lightening up, and her and Zig's little jabs at eachother seem a lot more playful now.

I know, and I can't help but wonder if Doc ate that sucker she took from Ziggy's mouth. You know what they say about a girl putting her lips on something a boy has.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

You know what they say about a girl putting her lips on something a boy has.

Oh my GOD, what are they letting kids get away with on Bentaboard these days...

(mods, do not touch this, I beg of you; I'm still laughing)

[Neo Aguni]

Oh my GOD, what are they letting kids get away with on Bentaboard these days...

(mods, do not touch this, I beg of you; I'm still laughing)

well mister amused if you know what it means you probably wouldn't be. What it means. If a girl puts her lips to something a boy has whether it be a lollipop, or even a soda bottle it is regarded as an indirect kiss. Nothing nasty implied or intended.

[Mugenhunt]

Yes, the fact that you just meant the whole "indirect kissing! lol!" bit came across perfectly well. Still, out of context it could be taken to mean something dirty. It happens. People say innocent things that other people can willingly misinterpret all the time. Don't worry about it.

[Erik10101]

Just saw the episode, and I'd have to say that it was pretty good.

The market scene seemed out-of-place, but liked the reference to the cartels. Gem and Gemma entering the market seemed random too.

So, the rangers were supposed to "crash into each other" to combine their megazords? Seemed random.

Liked how Scott referred to Gem and Gemma as "little kids". So do most of us, Scott. So do most of us...

Tenaya's "laser" was an interesting storyline. But how did it "knock down" the Mach Megazord? And wasn't the Whale Zord formerly a doomsday machine?

Overall, an 8 for this one. Somewhat different from the past 18 episodes, but still recognizable as RPM :)

[ChronoMysticRanger]

I thought it was a red vine that Ziggy was eating, he was chewing it

[Beast King]

They sell something similar to those in a local store where i live, they are like chewy strawberry flavored sweets, i love to munch on them when i go there!!!

[Celebril]

Oops! Doggie slippers??? I stand corrected. She's still into cute and fuzzy, and Ziggy probably fits the bill a bit too close for her comfort.

Here is one thought, that just occurred to me. Remember that the one thing Dr. K would want for her birthday more than anything was to know her name? Wonder what the chances are of Ziggy figuring that out through his connections?

[Thrax]

Well they are in the post-apocaliptic future they dont have much of choise to shop

[Beast King]

For those who haven't seen Go-onger, This is going to be Venjix's new body:
http://img194.imageshack.us/i/anotheroneofhim.png/

[Quark]

I hate when they mold cockeyed expressions into the monster head.

[Neo Aguni]

I thought it was a red vine that Ziggy was eating, he was chewing it

I couldn't tell shoot as far as I could tell it might have been a piece of stick candy, but who knows.

[Force Ranger]

The episode was good. Could have been a bit better but it was not bad. Nice to see the rangers off duty. I liked G&G much more in this episode. Finally they learn not to always blow up things first and what it means to be part of a team.

BTW: The "Ziggmeister" rules!

[Thrax]

Now the team as united and now i think the opening will change with all seven rangers in the final scene of the Opening

[bobtherandomguy]

well the Paleomax Megazord and then the Ultrazord are appearing in a few episodes, I doubt we'll get another new opening before then

[terrierlee]

Okay, maybe they got rid of the glasses to make it work with Detaramedes' body?

[sjneow]

A True footage burning episodes.

[PowerOnyx]

Daishogun...Daishogun...Must...Have....

[bobtherandomguy]

I don't think so, I mean if they do use Daishogun how are they going to explain its disappearence

[Beast King]

And how are they going to explain its Appearance? RPM is too realistic to have something like Daishougn around.

[SapphireBuster]

Considering this was Chip's first episode... I actually like it.

I'm glad that an attention was set on Gem and Gemma's rash and childish behavior. You have to admit, it was interesting to see. Although if I'm not mistaken, they merged two Go-onger episodes into this one. Then again, the transition was smooth, so no worries there.

And then we get SkyRev Mega, only an episode after Mach Mega was revealed. Was it a bit hasty? Maybe. But still, it was done nicely. And now Gem and Gemma know how to play as a team and think things through.

(You know what, I think they switched these roles on purpose. The Go-ongers were supposed to be the rash ones while the Wings were the thinking ones... irony at it's best.)

[DarkBlaze]

Wasn't this the first episode of the season, where we actually heard the Ranger's refer to themselves as "Power Rangers RPM" in their Megazord?

[Beast King]

Nah, Flynn said it in "Rangerblue" and the core three said it in "Handshake"

[Quark]

Dillon and Ziggy say it as well when they form Valvemax Megazord for the first time.

[Beast King]

I thought it was when they finish the monster?

[Thrax]

Summer, she os really pretty in this episode

[Beast King]

All girls look pretty lol :D

[Thrax]

Disney like much of the blond girls

[Beast King]

Yeah, i don't know why though :)

[Hears All]

Hopefully this episode marks the unity of the entire team, something we never saw much in Go-Onger

[bobtherandomguy]

are you kidding, I preferred the separation of the Go-Onger and Go-On wings, it was when they suddenly became all buddy buddy that I got annoyed

[Beast King]

Remember, what happened in Go-onger is\was irrelevant to RPM, cause they could easily turn the story upside down, but i guess, when your city is the only one left, there's no time for taking sides.

[Hears All]

are you kidding, I preferred the separation of the Go-Onger and Go-On wings, it was when they suddenly became all buddy buddy that I got annoyed

IMO, I thought they never had enough fights all together, I just want to see that in RPM

[Beast King]

In fact i love G & G's insane attitude towards the rangers!

[Super Jeff]

I have to say, this is the first episode since SPD, where I actualy enjoyed a zord fight. It wasn't forced, it felt natural.

[Beast King]

Same here, i mean most zord battles seem to not be thought out, and just shoved there for Merchandise issues.

[bobtherandomguy]

that was very obvious in some of the Go-On footage I remember watching

[Thrax]

When Tenaya put that weapon in her hand reminds a lot Robocop 3 like he did the some

[Mr. Pink]

G+G rock! this episode was decent... kind of sad the twins are toning down things a bit

[AoBlue]

Scott is forever trying to tell someone what to do

[PowerOnyx]

I don't think so, I mean if they do use Daishogun how are they going to explain its disappearence


And how are they going to explain its Appearance? RPM is too realistic to have something like Daishougn around.

Armor Upgrade.

[Mr. Pink]

daishogun could be explained by the boom twins going trigger happy with paint or something!

[Beast King]

Armor Upgrade.Kinda like these disposable morphers we have lying around? Except its a disposable battlizer! Or armor, whichever you like.

[SapphireBuster]

Well, you could say that they based an upgrade for High Octane on PaleoMax, taking the prehistoric tech and merging it with their zords, which results in the change. Later on they could say that the upgrde was much too much of a drain on the zord's output, and had to be removed.