RPM "Ancient History" Episode

[Fury Diamond]

Power Rangers: R.P.M. Episode 24 "Ancient History"
Episode Summary (http://www.rpmcast.com/episodes)

Do not ask about full episodes in this thread. They are posted in Multimedia Downloads (http://www.rangercrew.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11759).

[terrierlee]

Since the episode finished airing awhile ago... and I'm up already...

This episode was pretty solid. I liked how Shifter and Crunch were out there doing stuff.--And was that OO Red's helmet? Wow. I kept seeing OO everywhere this episode, especially with Dr. K doing her repeating thing as a hologram.

Nice to see Shifter and Kilobyte working together. And... did Kilobyte's voice change? It sounded less British.

Very nice use of sentai footage. I mean, yeah, I could see it, but they used it really well. We have our final three zords!

When the Truman ended up with the laptop, I did notice the video cut out, and Dr. K said she would never release Venjix, even though she did, later on, but only because she wanted out of Alphabet Soup. Truman seemed to jump to conclusions. I also noticed the Rangers kinda slipped that they knew she released Venjix. But it didn't seem like Truman caught on to that.

And dudes, crazy dino trains are in. Pass it on.

So Tenaya is ready to beat up Shifter if he gets in her way. I find her a little... annoying at this scene. I mean, Shifter hasn't really done much this season, and he's finally starting to act out and all, especially since he's siding with Kilobyte and Tenaya is trying to kill his thunder. I know, the next few episodes will be about Tenaya, but come on, I want some Shifter focus. Please?

And after this episode, I've started to ship Colonel Truman/Dr. K. Awesome. /sarcasm

Over all: 9/10 Dr. K's.

[Mr. Yellow]

Oh wow. I just love I woke up early to see this episode, and it's been replaced by a show called, "Paid Programming." Just. Awesome. Great. Grand. Wonderful.:mad:


:sad:

[Digifiend]

What's "Paid Programming"? :question: That type of pre-emption doesn't happen in the UK.

[ForeverBlue]

Paid Programming is like those ads stuff that are shown.


Yellow, was the episode on your tv listening for this morning?

[Digifiend]

Teleshopping!?! In the middle of the day? Very strange, here it only happens in the middle of the night, and it says so in the schedule.

[PowerOnyx]

Dr. K scaring Ziggy was funny.

[Crazy Davey]

Loved seeing the Red Overdrive helmet in the beginning. Which now raises a question.... could the Overdrive powers be an influence on the RPM powers? <_<

Both are connected to the morphing grid, which could explain how Dr. K tapped into it.

[mmpr grove]

Dr. K is Mac's great grand-daughter?

[Mr. Yellow]

Paid Programming is like those ads stuff that are shown.


Yellow, was the episode on your tv listening for this morning?

No, it wasn't. They didn't even show the repeat episode like they have been. In fact, there is no more listings for Power Rangers on my tv listings. :sad:

[Digifiend]

Your local affiliate seems to have axed it then. Does ABC have it on their catch-up service online?

EDIT: Yep, affiliate axing. ABC.com says "Your Local Programming" for the entire ABC Kids timeslot. http://abc.go.com/schedule

[DarkBlaze]

My guide says RPM is coming on, but on the ABC site it says it's Hannah Montana and Suite Life of Zack and Cody.

[Beast King]

I just loved this episode!!!!

[Digifiend]

My guide says RPM is coming on, but on the ABC site it says it's Hannah Montana and Suite Life of Zack and Cody.That could be a time zone discrepancy, check the website's settings.

[AoBlue]

This episode was good.

[DarkBlaze]

I think they're on Central time. I'm not exactly sure.

[Beast King]

What really shocked me, were these OO references, i mean talk about strange.

[PowerOnyx]

My guide says RPM is coming on, but on the ABC site it says it's Hannah Montana and Suite Life of Zack and Cody.

Same thing happened with Three's A Crowd/Heroes Among Us.



Loved seeing the Red Overdrive helmet in the beginning. Which now raises a question.... could the Overdrive powers be an influence on the RPM powers? <_<

Both are connected to the morphing grid, which could explain how Dr. K tapped into it.

Hartford helped fund Alphabet Soup, which was an extension of Hexagon.

CIA, DHS, FBI, NSA, NRO, etc.

Hence: Alphabet Soup.

[Beast King]

Ok, the connections in this series are just weird.

[Huzzah]

Hartford helped fund Alphabet Soup, which was an extension of Hexagon.

CIA, DHS, FBI, NSA, NRO, etc.

Hence: Alphabet Soup.

Well that...that just makes sense with the Alphabet Soup analogy...

[Huzzah]

Also when I saw the title I thought "you know what, this could be a great opporutnity for some tie-ins from the past." Well I mean it was interesting seeing the OO Helmet, though with the Paleo-Zord appearing you know what would've been really awesome, if they had found one of the MMPR helmets...but that's just wishful thinking.

[Razor]

*Was that the Red Overdrive Rangers' helmet that Shifter picked up?
*Something tells me Ziggy learned that shot while hanging around those shifty characters we met in Ranger Green.
*Scott getting on top of the monster, was very Jason-esque. How long has it been, seriously since we've seen a Ranger get up in a giant monsters' face like that? Genius.
*Did anyone else at first think that the Paleo zord was actually the Red Dragon Thunderzord?
*"I've got a train to catch". lol
*Flynn and Summer pulling a Gem and Gemma with that line of theirs was lol
*Did anyone else think that when Gem uttered that one line of his, that he sounded more like Ziggy?
*Dr. K's finally lightening up. That trick on Ziggy at the end.

[O.92]

I don't know what to think of this episode. I liked the idea going into it, but I felt like it just let me down. A lot of the Sentai footage was really not needed. Scott jumping up like Superman to take down a giant drill or a giant train several times was a bit over the top. ValveMax and Mach fighting each other felt odd and dumb.

I don't know. I liked some of what this episode had to offer, but I just can't seem to put it anywhere above mediocre. It felt poorly executed.

[Jungle Fury Fan]

Well I haven't got to see the new episode yet, it was pre-empted in my area. I figure I can watch it on Youtube later cuz us PR fans work fast:) Whenever someone has the new episode up on Youtube, please send me a link :)

[ShadowDragonRanger]

*I liked this week's episode. Pardon the pun but it really put the plot and subplots back on track after the backstage derailment (resulting in last week's sleeper ep).
*Nice job with the sentai footage splicing. Feels more organic.
*Dr. K has once again pulled off a miracle; though she wouldn't refer to it as such. ( I know they had to exhaust the Zord fleet in order to bring the new additions, but this time it felt...weird. At least it wasn't like PROO. 'Hey, we just so happen to have another zord... :chorus:CONTRIVANCE!':/chorus: LOL )
*Overall, 'Ancient History' gets 4.5 Dr. K holograms... I voted 'Good'. Nice one, John!

[KyoryuRed]

it was amazing!

Paleomax Megazord look great. anyways, i'm glad that Dr. K don't get arrested.. thanks to picture of Scott's dad and older brother that we saw in Ranger Red.

[PowerOnyx]

^True.

Though it did seem awfully easy to get the Paleomax under control. It took more of an effort towards the Gator and Whale zords.

[ShadowDragonRanger]

Speaking of which...
Fan:'Where are the Dino Rangers!?'
SDR:...uh, have you checked five seasons ago?
Hate to poke at old topics but what is the point of those?
Weren't the Paleozord fleet controlled by Red, Blue and Yellow in Goonger? So why would we need them (even though we weren't going to have them to begin with)?

[Moldy Blue]

I enjoy this episode very much. Loved the Dr.k goose chase scene. The only thing that I didn't like was that random Power Ranger RPM.

[PowerOnyx]

Paleomax Megazord appearance and an OO helmet.

Why no MMPR helmet instead?

I'm saddened by this.

[Beast King]

Maybe it made more sense, cause MMPR wasn't technology based.

[Quark]

Whenever someone has the new episode up on Youtube, please send me a link :)

Right here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pUQVoFx-mQ) Part 3 is still processing it looks like.


Maybe it made more sense, cause MMPR wasn't technology based.

All of their arsenal was.

[PowerOnyx]

Maybe it made more sense, cause MMPR wasn't technology based.

Still, they could have at least made it a Dino Thunder helmet.


Seriously, what did OO have to do with Dinosaurs?

[malfion]

Great episode, the music, the drama with Doctor K, the zords, the helmet, everything was cool.

LOL suicidal monster.

"Its you, hey guards!"

Doctor K is awesome.

Paleomax was kewl.

[Digifiend]

Right here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pUQVoFx-mQ) Part 3 is still processing it looks like.Since you only posted part 1, here's the rest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0SX_0EcHk4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z829tnqj4S4
Part 3's working now.

Hang on a sec, that title sequence already features RPM Ultrazord, which hasn't been introduced yet!

[Quark]

Watched the episode. This is a story that really needed to be put further back in the season. The Rangers and the audience are past the fact that K created Venjix, this episode just feels kind of like an after thought. Still, I appreciate Lynn/Tellegen for actually giving this part of the story a resolution.
Almost afraid to mention this, but more fuel for the stand alone season fire: "-Dr. K created the Power Rangers-"
Also, I hope we all realize that wasn't supposed to be Mack's helmet...

[Thrax]

Awesome episode

The scene of the begin is awesome Crunch with the Red OO ranger helmet is really awesome
Shifter make is move and alert first Venjix and Kilobyte
The monster is very cool
the battles of the rangers vs the grinders and the monster
Paleomax attacks the monster and the Zenith megazord
They find the truth about Dr.K release the Venjix virus
We see in the laptop Dr.K speak with Venjix
Megazords fight to lore out the monster
Dr.K holograms
Dr.K scene with Coronel truman awesome
Paleomax megazord is really awesome
Tenaya treats Shifter to be careful

The Red helmet of OO red ranger i think that means possible the OO as been try to defend the Alphabet soup and i think too the helmet reprents the fact of the timeline by the some of the others PR teams

[Green ranger]

loved dr. k speech to Truman most emotional scene from her in a long time

[Thrax]

The final scene Dr.K and Ziggy, scared with the hologram...

[Titanium Power]

hmm, the episode was fine. I loved the reaction of colonel truman when he found out K made Venjix and when he told her to get away from the computer. The confrontation between K and Truman was kinda short, guess I wanted Truman to directly address the fact that K ruined everybody's lives. And what is the deal with the overdrive helmet, it shouldn't matter what kind of helmet it is. Doc K was designing more ranger gear than just dinozords.

[Quark]

Was that cockpit footage of Scott in the Paleozords Japanese footage? I thought they weren't manned by anyone in the source footage.

[Digifiend]

They're manned by Go-on Red. http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Engine_Gattai_Kyouretsu-O

[Jacen Solo]

loved dr. k speech to Truman most emotional scene from her in a long time

Indeed! Olivia and James did some hardcore acting there, and it was amazing. It was clear that the death of Marcus was at the forefront of Truman's mind when he was attempting to arrest Doctor K: he wanted justice not just for humanity's suffering, but also for the personal tragedy he had suffered. I see good things in the future between Scott and his father now that Truman is looking ahead.

[Thrax]

When Coronel Trumam see in Laptop Dr.K speaks with Venjix, Venjix almost look nice for her, well Venjix help Dr.K in develoment of the rangers tecnology

[Stormy]

I thought this episode was WAY better than the last one (no offense). The interaction between Ziggy and Dr. K was pretty cute.

[Mr. White]

Finished the ep right it was awsome:D and seeing Mack's helmet was random... and then Crunch's reaction to it was funny:lol:

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Now, as someone who dialed out of a lot of Eddie's episodes due to his Whedon-esque "OHHHHH, CHARACTERS HAVE TO BE MISERABLE, I'M SO PROFOUND" thing, I want somebody to check me on this... Did we have confirmation prior to this point that Venjix was FULL ON ASSISTING HER with the development of Project Ranger?

A ) This walks a weird line, because if she created Venjix and controlled his inputs, he wouldn't know anything more about the Power Rangers than she did. He may be better able to do theoretical reasoning than herself, but she would KNOW more. Unless Venjix was preexisting and had information on the Power Rangers...

B ) They never actually say she created Venjix, they say she created the virus and RELEASED Venjix. Except Venjix doesn't even consider the virus himself anymore.

C ) AWWW HELL YEAH, ALPHABET SOUP HAD ABANDONED RANGERTECH EXPERIMENTS PRIOR TO THE RPM TEAM. Whether or not that was intended to actually be the Red Overdrive Ranger is immaterial, they TRIED. And their logos are kinda-sorta-if-you-squint similar.

[Thrax]

B ) They never actually say she created Venjix, they say she created the virus and RELEASED Venjix. Except Venjix doesn't even consider the virus himself anymore.

well now there two complete diferent identies, Venjix is one and the virus is complete diferent

[Mirith]

As I said earlier on PR United, this was a good step in the right direction. It proved to a lot of people that what you did in the past is not as important as what you will do in the future.

[Mugenhunt]

Did we have confirmation prior to this point that Venjix was FULL ON ASSISTING HER with the development of Project Ranger?

Nope. This is the first we've heard of it.

[Thrax]

well Venjix is A.I and will learn more and more

[Blazing Tiger]

I overall liked the eps. Dr.K i felt showed more charatcer then she has in a long time. I really liked her holograms and such. The end was great when she scared Ziggy. The joys of being that smart. I really enjoyed the eps though

[mmpr grove]

Theory!

The hexagon captured Venjix at some point. he survived FR and was hiding on the net where he was eventually captured!.

The hexagon planned on reprogramming Venjix and creating a virus for him to use. This virus was ment to allow Venjix to take control of evil beings computer systems.

At some point the programming team (hailey, andrew, ethen etc.) dyed before they finished reprogramming Venjix.

Than a government team (made up of former employees of other government agencies) know as alphabet soup took over the project.

However they planned on using project venjix and the bio armor ranger project for greed.

Alphabet Soup's own team got as far as they could with Venjix. That is when they started kidnapping young geniuses.

The ranger project Alphabet soup started was created from data they stole from Andrew. The data being on new OO rangers Andrew was working on (as a possible side project in case project venjix went horribly wrong) before his death.

It is highly possible Alphabet soup even arranged for Andrew's and the other Hexagon tech teams deaths.

At some point in the future: Dr. K realizes Alphabet Soups plan on controlling Venjix is foolish. She manages to create a firewall to protect computers from him and his virus at their currant level of development.

I'm going to go as far as say Corthin was originally build as a city to safely test new ranger tech. After venjix started taking over, Dr. K managed to get there in time to install firewall.
She learned of Corthin when, going threw the data to make the rpm team. Info about it was amoung one of Andrew's files witch abc-soup unable to crack.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Nope. This is the first we've heard of it.

I'm doing a little dance right now.

I'll be jubilant right up until I have to watch MTV True Life: I'm a Power Rangers Fan Who Isn't Chris Funaro on my DVR.

[Thrax]

Theory!

The hexagon captured Venjix at some point. he survived FR and was hiding on the net where he was eventually captured!.

The hexagon planned on reprogramming Venjix and creating a virus for him to use. This virus was ment to allow Venjix to take control of evil beings computer systems.

At some point the programming team (hailey, andrew ethen etc.) dyed before they finished reprogramming Venjix.

Than a government team (made up of former employees of other government agencies) know as alphabet soup took over the project.

However they planned on using project venjix and the bio armor ranger project for greed.

Alphabet Soup's own team got as far as they could will Venjix. That is when they started kidnapping young geniuses.

The ranger project Alphabet soup started was created from data they stole from Andrew. The data being on new OO rangers Andrew was working on (as a possible side project in case project venjix went horribly wrong) before his death.

It is highly possible Alphabet soup even arranged for Andrew's and the other Hexagon tech teams deaths.

I agree much with yout theory made sense

[malfion]

Now, as someone who dialed out of a lot of Eddie's episodes due to his Whedon-esque "OHHHHH, CHARACTERS HAVE TO BE MISERABLE, I'M SO PROFOUND" thing, I want somebody to check me on this... Did we have confirmation prior to this point that Venjix was FULL ON ASSISTING HER with the development of Project Ranger?

A ) This walks a weird line, because if she created Venjix and controlled his inputs, he wouldn't know anything more about the Power Rangers than she did. He may be better able to do theoretical reasoning than herself, but she would KNOW more. Unless Venjix was preexisting and had information on the Power Rangers...

B ) They never actually say she created Venjix, they say she created the virus and RELEASED Venjix. Except Venjix doesn't even consider the virus himself anymore.

C ) AWWW HELL YEAH, ALPHABET SOUP HAD ABANDONED RANGERTECH EXPERIMENTS PRIOR TO THE RPM TEAM. Whether or not that was intended to actually be the Red Overdrive Ranger is immaterial, they TRIED. And their logos are kinda-sorta-if-you-squint similar.

I looked at the Paleomax, and seriously thought I was looking at the OO logo.

http://s2.tvali.ge/photos/Uchito_Neji_22575.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pUQVoFx-mQ

Pause at 6:26. Kinda similar.

In Dan Ewings words "I did get hard" when I saw the helmet.

I don't read the spoilers or anything, but its these little touches they add in the episodes(that are never big enough to be mentioned in spoiler threads from episode descriptions) that feel special. So far on RPM, we've had JF and OO cameos. I imagine we'll see more.

[mmpr grove]

I agree much with yout theory made sense

I know mt theory leaves some holes and I edited a bit. However I know it still leaves some questions. Like did the hexagon rangers and non-rangers seriously think they could control venjix?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Alphabet Soup is not the Hexagon. K is specific that AS is the product of a "civilian government." It's not military, then. She makes a fine distinction to Truman about it. Lightspeed is military, NASADA is private industry run by ex-military, Hartford Industries is a private company, etc. Moreover, the Hexagon HAD Grid technologies at its disposal. They would not need to DISCOVER IT over a hundred years later, nor be so oblivious of the thing that they don't even have a name for it anymore. The whole point of Zordon and Tommy networking people was to keep intel alive under any conditions.

(plus: Alphabet Soup is full on evil, the Hexagon even under Amit's most nightmarish conditions was merely noble but poorly intentioned)

[mmpr grove]

A product of civilian government still could of arisin to high power. At least high enough they forced the Hexagon to turn over the venjix project. Theory still works if, Alphabet Soup only got some of Andrew's data (info on the grid they didn't get) This would mean Dr.K rediscovered the grid and that is why she doesn't know it's name!

[Digifiend]

RPM is set in the 22nd Century, all the Hexagon members are dead.

[Thrax]

The Alphabet soup possible works with databases of the past teams of the rangers and created is own project of PR team

[Cmdr Crayfish]

This has nothing to do with ANDREW'S data. The Hexagon is the intelligence network constructed by ZORDON and maintained by TOMMY in a paramilitary fashion. This is elaborate, meaningful intel on the Morphing Grid spanning millennia. Andrew got his Morphing Grid information from Sentinel Knight, as near as we can figure. There are gaps of information so large and so significant that it DIMINISHES the Hexagon to claim they are the same as Alphabet Soup. Not to even mention the horrifying lengths Alphabet Soup would go to in order to arm humanity against the forces of evil.

You also have it backwards: civilians can work for the military, but the military reports to the government unless there has been a coup. Except in the case of Corinth, which is under martial law. K MAKES THIS POINT HERSELF IN THIS EPISODE. Truman is not beholden to a public government, because he's the commander of the human race on Earth.

Your theory sucks. It makes far more sense that Alphabet Soup was a scrappy government program which was willing to arm the US government at any cost, like Torchwood originally did to reform the British Empire. That they specifically WENT TO THE MOON and rounded up the debris from the Machine Empire, in the process finding the backup copy of Venjix he'd beamed to safety after Serpentera was destroyed. Then taking it back to Earth to use as a decompiler and experiment in creating their own artificial lifeforms. Which the Hexagon also already possessed ELABORATE intel on.

[Thrax]

I hope them return again the Alphabet soup and find something to fight Venjix, because Venjix is became even more powerfull, because Dr.K know a lot when Venjix very well

[malfion]

This has nothing to do with ANDREW'S data. The Hexagon is the intelligence network constructed by ZORDON and maintained by TOMMY in a paramilitary fashion. This is elaborate, meaningful intel on the Morphing Grid spanning millennia. Andrew got his Morphing Grid information from Sentinel Knight, as near as we can figure. There are gaps of information so large and so significant that it DIMINISHES the Hexagon to claim they are the same as Alphabet Soup. Not to even mention the horrifying lengths Alphabet Soup would go to in order to arm humanity against the forces of evil.

You also have it backwards: civilians can work for the military, but the military reports to the government unless there has been a coup. Except in the case of Corinth, which is under martial law. K MAKES THIS POINT HERSELF IN THIS EPISODE. Truman is not beholden to a public government, because he's the commander of the human race on Earth.

Your theory sucks. It makes far more sense that Alphabet Soup was a scrappy government program which was willing to arm the US government at any cost, like Torchwood originally did to reform the British Empire. That they specifically WENT TO THE MOON and rounded up the debris from the Machine Empire, in the process finding the backup copy of Venjix he'd beamed to safety after Serpentera was destroyed. Then taking it back to Earth to use as a decompiler and experiment in creating their own artificial lifeforms. Which the Hexagon also already possessed ELABORATE intel on.

What better to use as a base for an A.I than a what was once a sentient machine right?

Its perfect. Venjix just needs to mention the words machine empire, and bam, hes done it.

Though you have to wonder why he asked to be "released". I mean, a normal AI wouldn't be so...forward about it, or even need to be released.
There must be some goal he had back then.

[Mr. Yellow]

Interesting episode, one of the better ones for sure. Glad I finally got to see it despite it no longer airing in my area. More usage of the sentai footage, but it was used well. PaleoMax looked good and Dr. K was awesome. Although, some of the sentai footage made no sense for Scott to be doing what he did. Scott is not one to just throw himself at the monster and then start hammering away on his arm, that is definitely more of a Sousuke thing. Great to see another Dr. K/Ziggy moment at the end, and nice to see that K was actually enjoying it.

[Xerox]

This is what I've been waiting weeks to see. Finally, the series feels back on track. Hopefully the plot gets even more in-depth soon, especially now that they have collected all the zords. 4.5/5

[Mr. Underachiever]

Outside of Venjix helping Dr. K on the ranger project (which would probably mean Alphabet Soup was aware of it, but that doesn't make sense since she was using it to get OUT of Alphabet Soup), the stupid megazord "training" fight, and the Tenaya sub-plot just being... there, this was a pretty decent episode.

For the rest of the season, can we get the John Tellegen that wrote this episode, "Ranger Red," and "In or Out" back and NOT the one that wrote "Brother's Keeper," "Three's a Crowd" and "The Dome Dolls"?

[Quark]

the stupid megazord "training" fight

That didn't bother me so much on second viewing. I hadn't caught that Dr. K instructed them to do so, and it was basically them warming up incase she wasn't able to configure the Paleozords...

...But, it was pretty stupid. I would have liked seeing the time spent on that part put into the K and Truman conflict, which felt criminally rushed.

[Beast King]

Am i the only one who isn't liking the fact that they changed Kilobytes voice?

[Quark]

I'm pissed about it. He used to be a fusty old British robot. Now he's just a British robot. Lame. Seriously, what the hell is the problem with voice consistency among Venjix's generals?

[Beast King]

I am glad they did something about Crunch's voice, it used to sound horrible in the first few eps.

[Quark]

True, but someone should have told them to leave Kilobyte alone.

[Beast King]

Maybe his voice actor bailed or something?

[Quark]

I checked the credits, it's the same actor. They must have just not used any of the audio effects or distortion on his voice. It was only one line, hopefully it was just an mistake and it'll return next episode.

[Xerox]

I hope it does. The dude shows up in only one episode prior to this and we all clearly notice that his voice has changed. I think that shows that it's important enough to fix back to how it was.

[Neo Aguni]

Dr. K is finally lightening up. That smile she gave Ziggy said a lot.
Does anybody else get the notion that maybe something secret is going on between them now.

[Anza Power]

I'm starting to hate Kilobyte...

It's awesome they showed the Red OO Helmet, means that RPM is indeed part of the PRU...

Great ep, it's shown they put some efort into it, too bad all the Go-Onger zords suck...

[Beast King]

Could this be showing that OO failed to defeat Venjix?

[toughturnips]

The Good:
-I love the usb upload thing Tenaya did. It was pretty cool and unexpected.
-Everytime I think I can't love Dr. K any further, she gets even more awesome.
-Dillon stepping in to help Ziggy from the guard was great. They need their own spin off show...


The Bad:
-Again with the camera shaking all over the place in the fight scenes like they're in a permanent earthquake.
-Didn't care for the way the sentai footage was used. The whole thing seems easily forgettable and just didn't make much sense to me, especially Scott's part in it. It just seemed all over the place.

The Wtf:

-Summer and Flynn doing twin speak
-What did they do to Kilobyte's voice? And even his part in this episode was weak.

Misc:
-The short pool scene with Ziggy and Flynn seemed randomly thrown in and somewhat predictable that Ziggy was going to trick Flynn
-Venjix and Dr.K getting along was sorta creepy.


Overall I liked the episode but I just expected something more. The first half started off nicely and then sorta was eh...then the hologram stuff brought it up again..then back to ehh again and then the ending was okay. Dr. K making Ziggy jump was amusing but there was just something lacking in general I can't place in this episode. 3/5 this week.

[Anza Power]

Could this be showing that OO failed to defeat Venjix?

Not necessarily, it might mean that Hartford Ltd Ranger Technology was used to create the RPM Rangers, maybe even stolen without Hartford knowing...

[nekollx]

No, it wasn't. They didn't even show the repeat episode like they have been. In fact, there is no more listings for Power Rangers on my tv listings. :sad:

Power Rangers is still on the air?

[nekollx]

Your local affiliate seems to have axed it then. Does ABC have it on their catch-up service online?

EDIT: Yep, affiliate axing. ABC.com says "Your Local Programming" for the entire ABC Kids timeslot. http://abc.go.com/schedule

see this is the thing that gets me

Disney/ABC ***** that "no one is watching Power Rangers"
but it's a bit hard to do when you NEVER SHOW IT.

You know what I'm going to call ABC and ask them when and why they cancled the show, then do the same with disney. I advise others to do the same. They need to realie there is a audience but when you never air the show it's hard to get raitings.

[Thorn]

RPM is set in the 22nd Century, all the Hexagon members are dead.

We know when it is set? When did we learn this fact? O.o
If it's true, the rangers must have defeaten Venjix, since Time Force is set in the year 3000.. And humanity is not extinct then.

If I think about it, RPM must be before TF, since Dr K does not know how to travel in time...

Oh, and Flynn ending Summer's sentence? That's random.

[nekollx]

We know when it is set? When did we learn this fact? O.o
If it's true, the rangers must have defeaten Venjix, since Time Force is set in the year 3000.. And humanity is not extinct then.

If I think about it, RPM must be before TF, since Dr K does not know how to travel in time...

Oh, and Flynn ending Summer's sentence? That's random.

no Dr. K clearly said she can't travel in time to the specific conditions needed to undo this travesty...she never ruled out time travel in general...

I'll let that sink in for a bit.

[Thrax]

We know when it is set? When did we learn this fact? O.o
If it's true, the rangers must have defeaten Venjix, since Time Force is set in the year 3000.. And humanity is not extinct then.

well Time Force develoment the Time travel, and when Venjix as be defeated maybe the aliens come to help the humans rebuild the planet

[The 2nd Evil]

I hope we get Kilobyte's real voice back next week.

It'll either be that, or something different altogether. Shifter and Crunch had about eight different sounding voices in the first five episodes, so I'm not expecting this to be any different.

[Thrax]

I hope we get Kilobyte's real voice back next week.

I agreed with you, Kilobyte is much better with the first voice we heard

[malfion]

With Venjix's attack, do you think Time Force would still exist in the future? Because TF could get some backup to the RPM team if they do/did.

Since we saw Macks helmet, the sentinel knight still exists...Plus the MF team would be magical right, so couldn't some of them live very long? Though it depends where RPM is in the timeline.

[Thrax]

With Venjix's attack, do you think Time Force would still exist in the future? Because TF could get some backup to the RPM team if they do/did.

well TF as history databases of the all events who happens in the past and the future, because we see to Alex try to prevence many worse thing happens but since the TF comes to the present even that can change the time continue...


Since we saw Macks helmet, the sentinel knight still exists...Plus the MF team would be magical right, so couldn't some of them live very long? Though it depends where RPM is in the timeline.

i think if we see the red helmet represents maybe the some team of rangers are try to defend some points on the planet who ca nhelp later in a later attaks aganst Venjix

[Legacy]

I liked this episode. I thought the halio Zord was really cool and that it became ts own zord. So what that makes the team as a whole have a total of 4 megazord? perhaps all 4 will be able to combine.

[Neo Aguni]

I gave this episode an ok rating. I could have been so much better than it was.

[Digifiend]

We know when it is set? When did we learn this fact? O.o.It's not specifically mentioned in the show, but the earliest date usually mentioned is 2085 - it's also been mentioned that it's over a hundred years in the future, which means at least 2110. Admittedly, it's all fan speculation.

As for the Overdrive helmet, maybe another team just has the same helmet designs, like the way SPD A-Squad had Space Ranger helmet designs?

[XxAKAREDxX]

It's not specifically mentioned in the show, but the earliest date usually mentioned is 2085 - it's also been mentioned that it's over a hundred years in the future, which means at least 2110. Admittedly, it's all fan speculation.

As for the Overdrive helmet, maybe another team just has the same helmet designs, like the way SPD A-Squad had Space Ranger helmet designs?
Or it's because the gov't wanted doctor k. to create rangers and evil tech for them. She did have knowledge of the morphing grid, so she must know of at least some ranger past.

[Digifiend]

That doesn't contradict what I said. There's probably teams after JF and before RPM that we don't know about, which is what I meant about identical helmet designs.

[BurningMan]

I really enjoyed this episode, and loved the ending with Dr.K
She is becoming one of my favorite Power Rangers characters of all time

[PowerOnyx]

So what about Mack's helmet?

Was he a test subject of Alphabet Soup? Did Venjix infect him? Or did AS just happen to have Hartford's Ranger tech?

[nekollx]

So what about Mack's helmet?

Was he a test subject of Alphabet Soup? Did Venjix infect him? Or did AS just happen to have Hartford's Ranger tech?

didn't you know?

Kilobyte is Mack

[Beast King]

I still think this is trying to show us how powerful Venjix is, he even defeated the Overdrive team.

[Crimson Soul]

I still think this is trying to show us how powerful Venjix is, he even defeated the Overdrive team.

Or maybe it's the production crew reusing old props lying around to save $$$. Similar to Sky's father wearing the Time Force red uniform in SPD.

[Digifiend]

And SPD's use of Space helmets. That's definitely the real world reason.

[Thrax]

I still think this is trying to show us how powerful Venjix is, he even defeated the Overdrive team.

I Agreed with you !!!

[Jacen Solo]

Honestly, I do think it's just an Easter egg. The producers are throwing us a bone. Nothing more, in my opinion. I'm reading some pretty cool theories though! Keep 'em coming!

[Thrax]

well some of Power rangers teams try to stop Venjix but in the end they are destroyed by Venjix forces, in the start maybe them can stand Venjix forces but comes the moment even the rangers can by stand aganst the millions of Soldiers of Venjix in the end, Venjix destroyed them all

[Jacen Solo]

Oh, I can certainly agree with that. It's possible that the remaining Ranger teams (S.P.D., Operation Overdrive, Wild Force, Jungle Fury, Lightspeed, and so on), did try to stop Venjix but were destroyed. But we're also looking at a three-year window in which this could have happened (Venjix was unleashed on the world three years ago). I suppose it's possible, though it is something of a stretch. But it's an interesting idea, Thrax. Heck, maybe even Sentinel Knight was destroyed completely by Venjix.

[Thrax]

Oh, I can certainly agree with that. It's possible that the remaining Ranger teams (S.P.D., Operation Overdrive, Wild Force, Jungle Fury, Lightspeed, and so on), did try to stop Venjix but were destroyed. But we're also looking at a three-year window in which this could have happened (Venjix was unleashed on the world three years ago). I suppose it's possible, though it is something of a stretch. But it's an interesting idea, Thrax. Heck, maybe even Sentinel Knight was destroyed completely by Venjix.

well the Venjix armys are unlimited for Venjix take over the world and if we see good, the rangers in general they can defeate all in some time they possible have all rangers teams battle aganst Venjix, Space rangers possible will come to earth to protect them, even the Silver guardians battle to protect the planet because we have many time and is almost ironic Venjix destroyed them all, because possible in the start of Venjix be easy to them fight aganst the forces of Venjix but we know Venjix build army very quick for take over the world even fight with all there powers and Megazords is very dificult stand such power of Venjix, and if think well Venjix help to in the develoment of rangers tecnology but i think Venjix possible think in everthing well the rangers battle and the armys aganst Venjix forces is very dificult defeate such power

[ForeverBlue]

What a great episode! Nice to see the OO helmet, like Jacen said, might have been just an easter egg

[Jacen Solo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrtvx76brE&feature=PlayList&p=64723F7290D7B8CA&index=0&playnext=1

Thirty-seven percent of the world's computer systems in a year. I'd lay odds that Venjix was somehow able to infect the Overdrive mainframe, Lightspeed, other Ranger technology systems and so on. And if he was able to do that, I can posit that Venjix easily destroyed those teams. Or just extinguished/stolen their powers. Venjix has no qualms about killing, though, that's for sure.

[XxAKAREDxX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrtvx76brE&feature=PlayList&p=64723F7290D7B8CA&index=0&playnext=1

Thirty-seven percent of the world's computer systems in a year. I'd lay odds that Venjix was somehow able to infect the Overdrive mainframe, Lightspeed, other Ranger technology systems and so on. And if he was able to do that, I can posit that Venjix easily destroyed those teams. Or just extinguished/stolen their powers. Venjix has no qualms about killing, though, that's for sure.
BUT, the overdrive helmet must've been inside of AS BEFORE the Venjix outbreak (when the building blew up!) So your theory doesn't add up.

[Thrax]

Thirty-seven percent of the world's computer systems in a year. I'd lay odds that Venjix was somehow able to infect the Overdrive mainframe, Lightspeed, other Ranger technology systems and so on. And if he was able to do that, I can posit that Venjix easily destroyed those teams. Or just extinguished/stolen their powers. Venjix has no qualms about killing, though, that's for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrtvx76brE



that movie tell everthing about Venjix conquer the planet and destroyed all humans and everthing in is way !!

[malfion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrtvx76brE&feature=PlayList&p=64723F7290D7B8CA&index=0&playnext=1

Thirty-seven percent of the world's computer systems in a year. I'd lay odds that Venjix was somehow able to infect the Overdrive mainframe, Lightspeed, other Ranger technology systems and so on. And if he was able to do that, I can posit that Venjix easily destroyed those teams. Or just extinguished/stolen their powers. Venjix has no qualms about killing, though, that's for sure.

Technically, RPM Venjix himself hasn't killed anybody. He manipulated systems and his own grinders/robots to kill in his place,while he sits around a tube(sound familiar?). He hasn't killed a single person with his own two hands...or whatever he looks like. Hes tried, but hes never gotten it done.

[Thrax]

Technically, RPM Venjix himself hasn't killed anybody. He manipulated systems and his own grinders/robots to kill in his place,while he sits around a tube(sound familiar?). He hasn't killed a single person with his own two hands...or whatever he looks like. Hes tried, but hes never gotten it done.

well but Venjix control the armys give the orders and controls all is armys to destroy everthing in is path to make is way to big victory

[RyanRXP]

Honestly, I do think it's just an Easter egg. The producers are throwing us a bone. Nothing more, in my opinion. I'm reading some pretty cool theories though! Keep 'em coming!

I think it is more simple than that. Dr K must have gone through many different prototypes before coming up with the RPM powers, so I think it was only there to say "hey look, a pile of random failed prototype ranger tech"

[Jacen Solo]

Technically, RPM Venjix himself hasn't killed anybody. He manipulated systems and his own grinders/robots to kill in his place,while he sits around a tube(sound familiar?). He hasn't killed a single person with his own two hands...or whatever he looks like. Hes tried, but hes never gotten it done.

Oh my word, how could we not see it before?

Venjix is Zordon! :straightface:

[Cmdr Crayfish]

There is something brilliant and beautiful in the fact that the final season has totally flipped the dynamic of the Machiavellian manipulator who keeps his noncorporeal self in a tube for the majority of the show. Granted, K was herself "noncorporeal" for a while too...

[Hears All]

This episode basically states that after Venjix began his attack on earth there was some sort of "Ranger Rebellion". We know this by seeing Mack's helmet, so it can be assumed the Overdrive team is dead.

Its safe to say that this is the same Red Overdrive Ranger aka Mack because when Crunch picked up the helmet the first thing he said was that he wonders is he could be a Ranger too

RPM has some damn good writing :D

[DoctorKosmic]

Something just occured to me. As we see in this episode, Venjix is well aware of Project Ranger and is helping Doctor K with it. Since Venjix has first-hand knowledge of Power Rangers, and the immense power they can harness, could his plan have originally been to have his own team of Rangers? Did Venjix put the idea in Doctor K's head?

He probably would've envisioned a team of Robo-Rangers, a la Turbo, but when the Morphers were shown to be DNA-based, that's when he came upon the idea of using Hybrids. It's supported by the fact that Venjix sends Tenaya out to claim the Green Morpher early on in the series.

However, once all the Morphers were claimed, he may not have had much use for Tenaya, and henceforth considered her a liability, leading to her fall from the high standing she seemed to have in the early episodes.

[PowerOnyx]

^So his Hybrid camp is being used to make Robo-Rangers? I like it!:D

[Cmdr Crayfish]

This episode basically states that after Venjix began his attack on earth there was some sort of "Ranger Rebellion". We know this by seeing Mack's helmet, so it can be assumed the Overdrive team is dead.

It's a hundred years after Overdrive. Of COURSE Mack's dead. He's human now.

It's an Alphabet Soup dumping ground. As in, where they discarded materials PRIOR to Venjix wiping out the population of the planet. As in, they were developing Rangertech prior to the RPM Rangers. As in, they were either experimenting on the Trackers or were trying to replicate an existing template.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Something just occured to me. As we see in this episode, Venjix is well aware of Project Ranger and is helping Doctor K with it. Since Venjix has first-hand knowledge of Power Rangers, and the immense power they can harness, could his plan have originally been to have his own team of Rangers? Did Venjix put the idea in Doctor K's head?

Seems to me this was the reason he wanted Tenaya to exist, yes. She was certainly eager to acquire the Series Green powers, and once that failed Venjix seemed to regard her as useless. Same as his hunger for Dillon and his continued development of the other infiltrators. Get someone into the Power Rangers and acquire the technology. Do what a machine has never been able to do in the history of the PRU: access the Morphing Grid directly. Not just through a keytool, as Mack did. SPIRITUALLY access it. Genetically graft it to the host.

As of this point... I guess he wants to infiltrate the Corinthian defense force.

[DoctorKosmic]

Gem and Gemma were held in Venjix's camp too, at one point. They eventually laid the smackdown and got the hell out of there, but could Venjix have been attempting to sever the connection between the twins and their morphers at that point?

And considering it's the twins, Venjix could've lured them in just by basically saying "Check out all my cool technology!" and they would've ran in there without a second thought.

This method wouldn't work on the other RPM Rangers, obviously, hence the need to try claim it by force.

Hmm, another thought, Doctor K interacted quite a bit with Venjix, but I wonder how much interaction he would've had with Gem & Gemma, while in the laptop?

Considering some of the designs of his Attack-Bots, perhaps quite a bit.

[Hears All]

It's a hundred years after Overdrive. Of COURSE Mack's dead. He's human now.

It's an Alphabet Soup dumping ground. As in, where they discarded materials PRIOR to Venjix wiping out the population of the planet. As in, they were developing Rangertech prior to the RPM Rangers. As in, they were either experimenting on the Trackers or were trying to replicate an existing template.

A hundred years?? I thought the RPM timeline was still up in the air

Venjix could have attacked Alphabet Soup and the Overdrive Rangers came to fight back and lost. It would have been easy for their equipment to get lost in the rubble/garbage.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It amuses me to consider that Venjix's entire scheme is reliant on doing something that, through his Overdrive Tracker, Mack had been able to do implicitly. Access the Grid. I wonder if that's something Venjix pried K into doing, in her development of Project Ranger? Unwittingly try to replicate the Trackers, so he could create a Morphing Grid keytool which worked for STRAIGHT UP NO CYBORG BIOLOGICAL CRAP ROBOTS? Explains the helmet in the dumping ground brilliantly, and then why it was discarded. Venjix found a dead-end.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

A hundred years?? I thought the RPM timeline was still up in the air

We have a press release saying 2131. We have nothing else official from Disney. Eddie's even said the timeline is NEBULOUS, but he wanted the near future. Eddie also says RPM is its own universe. We have to ignore this crap to a certain extent. Until somebody tells ME otherwise, I'm going on 2131.

[Mugenhunt]

There is something weird about non-living entities being able to utilize the collective life force of the universe to empower themselves. Doesn't mean it can't be done, as we've had Robot Rangers since Turbo. But it's still odd.

Venjix wants the power of Life.

[Bighead]

There is something weird about non-living entities being able to utilize the collective life force of the universe to empower themselves. Doesn't mean it can't be done, as we've had Robot Rangers since Turbo. But it's still odd.

There's an argument that Ryan did the same thing in Lightspeed.

[Mugenhunt]

Yeah. We've had undead rangers, robot rangers, and undead robot rangers. The grid is not picky.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

There is something weird about non-living entities being able to utilize the collective life force of the universe to empower themselves. Doesn't mean it can't be done, as we've had Robot Rangers since Turbo. But it's still odd.

Venjix wants the power of Life.

Well, the Dinozords are also alive -- but they have occasionally migratory and disembodied spirits, which makes me think they're animated by strange presences native to the Grid, like the Jungle Beasts. It's a spirit TAMED to a vehicular form, not a naturally living artificial lifeforce which is accessing the Grid itself. Eg: using the Grid to power a Zord is NOT the same as using the Grid to energize an artificial lifeform directly.

Plus, I think the Robot Rangers are special exceptions if we accept the "tied to the living spirit of Eltar like the Growl Phones are tied to Animaria" thing. Eltar's Gaia (Elta?) is FILTERING that lifeforce energy into the keys. Mack is literally just accessing Grid energy. Granted, Sentinel Knight was the mastermind behind the Trackers as near as we can figure, and his mastery of the Grid may well outstrip even Ninjor's. I mean, hell, Rose invented a Battlizer in tandem with SK and Excelsior which could ONLY BE UTILIZED BY A MACHINE.

[Jacen Solo]

Hmm, another thought, Doctor K interacted quite a bit with Venjix, but I wonder how much interaction he would've had with Gem & Gemma, while in the laptop?

Considering some of the designs of his Attack-Bots, perhaps quite a bit.

No, I'm inclined to think not. We know from "Doctor K" that Doctor K only introduced Gem and Gemma to Project Venjix when she had finished with it, coz it was right after that Alphabet Soup tried to do away with K. I'll need to go back and watch "Doctor K" again; I don't remember exactly how it happened. But my feeling was that Gem and Gemma had minimal, if any, contact with Venjix before Doc K released it into the facility.

Interesting that Gem and Gemma weren't questioned about Doctor K's activities with Venjix during the last episode, though.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It's more interesting to me the first thing Truman didn't think was "Venjix and K were working in collusion on the morphers, could the Rangers have been compromised from the beginning?" That his first instinct wasn't to run to Scott and CONFISCATE THE HELL OUT OF THAT MORPHER.

[Mugenhunt]

Interesting that Gem and Gemma weren't questioned about Doctor K's activities with Venjix during the last episode, though.

Does Truman know that Gem and Gemma used to be in Alphabet Soup? I'm not sure it'd ever come up.

[Bighead]

Random thought - if Ryan is (to all intent and purposes) undead, where is he in RPM? Can a reanimated corporeal spirit even be destroyed by non-magical/mystical means in the PRU?

[Mugenhunt]

It's more interesting to me the first thing Truman didn't think was "Venjix and K were working in collusion on the morphers, could the Rangers have been compromised from the beginning?"

Why? He's not thinking rationally. That's the entire point of the episode, that he's letting his anger and grief cloud his judgment. The Rangers are the only hope for Corinth, and Dr. K is a vital part of their operation. Even if they're compromised, it's the only chance they have.

[Jacen Solo]

It's more interesting to me the first thing Truman didn't think was "Venjix and K were working in collusion on the morphers, could the Rangers have been compromised from the beginning?" That his first instinct wasn't to run to Scott and CONFISCATE THE HELL OUT OF THAT MORPHER.

Wow. There are some very sinister possibilities there if Venjix planted some "extra" programs into Project Ranger that K didn't know about. But then, if this was the case, he wouldn't have needed Tenaya 7 to bond with the morpher (if he knew they would eventually be his anyway), unless he just wanted them sooner.

[Mugenhunt]

Yeah. If Venjix had any actual influence on the morphers, he'd have used it long ago. And humanity would be extinct. Except for Dr. K. I think he'd ensure she'd get to keep living. For a long, long, long time...

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Random thought - if Ryan is (to all intent and purposes) undead, where is he in RPM? Can a reanimated corporeal spirit even be destroyed by non-magical/mystical means in the PRU?

I know, it's creepy. But considering that it appeared the cobra tattoo was "destroying" him, I guess it was eating his soul or something?

(I love the idea of killing a ghost, it's so exceedingly Power Rangers)

[Bighead]

It really is. Phantom Ranger, the original Magna Defender, Sentinal Knight...

That cobra tattoo must have been a means to destroy Ryan's spirit itself, the thing that had been reanimated. In other words, his soul. What I'm wondering is whether the fact that Ryan did have corporeal form meant he could be destroyed by physical means. The Buffy/Angel fanboy in me is tempted to say yes but at the same time the idea of an immortal Titanium Ranger running around Earth destabilising critical Venjix systems and defeating Kilobot is just too appetising...

[Digifiend]

Even if he's immortal, his powers can still be destroyed.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Kilobyte. And yeah, I'm just reiterating we do know of a physical means (albeit mystical) to kill him. It just happened to be symbiotically grafted to him by the... Star Power or something? Eh. Do I think you can blow Ryan to hell and back and he won't regenerate... Interesting notion. I want to talk about conservation of energy here, except he's a freaking AMBULATORY GHOST.

Okay, I'm game. Ryan is functionally immortal and indestructible.

[Bighead]

With Diabolico gone and humanity reduced to one city, I'm pretty sure no-one on Earth in 2131 would know how to kill Ryan. Again.

So, Ryan's game plan would be to "simply" eliminate Venjix's forces all over Earth and to halt the mass production of Grinders and Attackbots that Venjix plans to use to begin his takeover of the galaxy once Corinth falls and Terran humanity is completely wiped out. He would also be trying to re-establish communications with Earth's intergalactic allies, which I'm certain Venjix has been falsifying and in complete control over ever since the nuclear attacks to avoid unwanted attention before he's built up his forces.

I imagine this isn't so much a tall order as it is a long order for an immortal and indestructible Ryan - there's a limit to how fast he can move and how fast he can destroy. Even he can't be in two places at once, and co-ordinated attacks are what is needed to succeed. Most of what Ryan achieves is superficial. Ryan may be immortal, but Venjix is pretty damn close to it too from his point of view.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It also doesn't help that Venjix has achieved the singularity, and Ryan is saddled by the fact he has a single mind and isn't especially that old. He may be indestructible, but the Pai Zhua Masters or anyone from the Mystic Realm would actually be more tenured. Ryan is WORSE off than if Bansheera had reconquered the planet.

[Bighead]

Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if he just gave up and left our realm after a year or two of pointless fighting to be honest. I don't think he's got much choice but to exist, but he can exist in the likes of the Mystic Realm.

Hell, that opens the doors for Ryan being employed by the Mystic Mother, who must be orchestrating SO much that we don't see...

[nekollx]

Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if he just gave up and left our realm after a year or two of pointless fighting to be honest. I don't think he's got much choice but to exist, but he can exist in the likes of the Mystic Realm.

Hell, that opens the doors for Ryan being employed by the Mystic Mother, who must be orchestrating SO much that we don't see...

i actualy have in my rPm rpg (that isnt even getting joiners) just that plot.

In corent we have RPM while in briarwood a new mystic force is being formed

[ShadowDragonRanger]

Just finished watching my recording of Ancient History and absorbed some more than my first viewing. The 'Overdrive' helmet had what appeared to be the letters 'Pro' above the visor - meaning either Project or Prototype. This led me to believe either Hartford helped fund the initial stages of Alphabet Soup / donated prototype ranger tech for Project Ranger OR Dr. K developed similar suits prior that happen to resemble prior teams. The area in segment one IS the remnants of Alphabet Soup. Tenaya says it herself! Once again I see grasping for straws that aren't there (Overdrive/Mack fighting Venjix and falling). Why would Dr. K know what the heck the Morphing Grid is when she clearly states otherwise in ep 1703 "Rain" about discovering an existing biofield that connects living beings on the planet. Had Hartford donated his Ranger tech, more than likely it would be disconnected to the Grid (if never connected at all). Thus why none of the other prototypes worked!

[Cmdr Crayfish]

That unnamed energy field IS the Morphing Grid. That's the explanation of what the Grid is created by a consortium of fans, myself included. Jackie included it in the series as a tip of the hat TO ME. Which I was sincerely flattered for. K HAS NO IDEA WHAT IT'S CALLED.

(well, more appropriately to all of us who worked our butts off on that thread, but come on -- it's my ego, and she referenced it on my birthday thread last year!)

[ShadowDragonRanger]

Wow, Chris. I remember you mentioning that before. Cool. That was what I was saying, K had no prior knowledge of the Grid, let alone what it was called! So the SPD/OO/TF tech or databanks being hijacked is moot.

[Mugenhunt]

Not necessarily. She could have been handed a broken morpher or ruined zord parts and told to go at it. There's no way she'd learn the term "morphing grid" through that, but still be able to reverse engineer Rangers.

[DigificWriter]

^ K not knowing what the Morphing Grid was called in no way precludes Alphabet Soup from having intimate knowledge of/access to previous Ranger technology. In fact, judging from what I've heard about this ep (haven't seen it yet, mainly because I wanted to wait until I could get the rest of the season in one fell swoop [although that's looking less and less likely given that the last eps of the season won't air til December]), it seems like that's exactly what happened.

[Digifiend]

It would take 16 hours to watch the entire season (including unaired episodes), so why don't you use Youtube and catch-up.

[DigificWriter]

^ I've seen up through 'Three's a Crowd' and have 'Heroes Among Us' and 'Not So Simple', so all I really need to do is just go ahead and get 'The Dome Dolls' and 'Ancient History' and watch all four eps in a row.

[ZoeJeren]

I just finished watching this....
-Scott is a BEAST! (hehe an acutal line used by my brother to describe something cool/awesome/crazy/intelligent.)
-Dr K's and Colonel Truman's interaction seemed so short and he was like ok I'll forgive you like nothing
-I liked the fact that there seems to be some resolution with Scott and his father
-The last scene with Ziggy and Dr. K was priceless
-Weird, but did anyone notice that this was probably the first ep where Dillon has very few speaking lines....or maybe not I'll have to go back and check, he was like just literally standing there blending in....but that's cool since this whole season is about him..

[Digifiend]

^ I've seen up through 'Three's a Crowd' and have 'Heroes Among Us' and 'Not So Simple', so all I really need to do is just go ahead and get 'The Dome Dolls' and 'Ancient History' and watch all four eps in a row.Fair enough, thought you maybe hadn't seen that much. :)

[Neo Aguni]

you can definitely see that they where behind schedule, because the script seemed rushed. There are some things; a lot of things that I thought could have been done better, but Dr. K's prank on Ziggy at the end was classic. I laughed so hard my sides started to hurt.

[Crimson Soul]

-Weird, but did anyone notice that this was probably the first ep where Dillon has very few speaking lines....or maybe not I'll have to go back and check, he was like just literally standing there blending in....but that's cool since this whole season is about him..

Ranger Green, Ranger Red, Ranger Blue, and Doctor K all come to mind as episodes where Dillon's character faded into the background quite a bit.

I'm glad the writers are being forced to give Scott more focus in order to incorperate the Go-Onger footage. I feel our Red Ranger this year has not had enough spotlight (can't believe I'm saying it, but it's true). Ancient History gave Scott some great focus during the battle and train scenes.

"Control - Alt - Delete" sounds like a Scott focused episode as well. Go figure, the episode summarey for that episode sounds like it was plucked straight from an episode of Go-Onger (one of Yogostein's final episodes I believe).

[Neo Aguni]

Ranger Green, Ranger Red, Ranger Blue, and Doctor K all come to mind as episodes where Dillon's character faded into the background quite a bit.

I'm glad the writers are being forced to give Scott more focus in order to incorperate the Go-Onger footage. I feel our Red Ranger this year has not had enough spotlight (can't believe I'm saying it, but it's true). Ancient History gave Scott some great focus during the battle and train scenes.

"Control - Alt - Delete" sounds like a Scott focused episode as well. Go figure, the episode summarey for that episode sounds like it was plucked straight from an episode of Go-Onger (one of Yogostein's final episodes I believe).


it is that time of year for bad guys to start dropping isn't it. I think that it will happen in this order.

Shifter
Crunch
Kilobyte
Tenaya, and finally
Venjix

[The 2nd Evil]

Footage would argue with that order, slightly.

[Thrax]

it is that time of year for bad guys to start dropping isn't it. I think that it will happen in this order.

Shifter
Crunch
Kilobyte
Tenaya, and finally
Venjix



well i think Tenaya will go to the side of the rangers and thme happen !!!

Shifter
Crunch
Kilobyte
Venjix

[ForeverBlue]

She won't be on the Rangers' side for long...just like what happened with Karone in PRiS.

[ShadowDragonRanger]

Not necessarily. She could have been handed a broken morpher or ruined zord parts and told to go at it. There's no way she'd learn the term "morphing grid" through that, but still be able to reverse engineer Rangers.
That was my post before Crayfish. I stated that perhaps Hartford donated (possibly failed) prototype ranger tech to Alphabet Soup. Or he could have provided disconnected technology.

[Jacen Solo]

Ranger Green, Ranger Red, Ranger Blue, and Doctor K all come to mind as episodes where Dillon's character faded into the background quite a bit.

I'm surprised Dillon didn't have anything to say this episode. He's suffered horribly at the hands of the Venjix virus. Though it would appear that Dillon has forgiven Doctor K for what she did, or at the very least come to terms with it, from "Not So Simple" (the opening scene when Doc K was giving him the antivirus treatment).

Now that Doctor K's name has been cleared, I think we'll definitely see her loosening up more, particularly around Ziggy.

[Crimson Soul]

I'm surprised Dillon didn't have anything to say this episode. He's suffered horribly at the hands of the Venjix virus. Though it would appear that Dillon has forgiven Doctor K for what she did, or at the very least come to terms with it, from "Not So Simple" (the opening scene when Doc K was giving him the antivirus treatment).


Can you really blame Dillon for acting as though he has forgiven Doctor K? She is the only person left on the entire planet with the intellect to treat him with an antivirus. Without her, he would current be Dillon 7, Generation 7 Infiltration Attack-Bot Unit.

At least Dillon's alive. Doctor K caused the deaths of practically the entire world's population (including the family and friends of the Rangers). If I were Dillon, I'd be pretty pissed, but at the same time thankful I'm not in Marcus Truman's situation.

[Jacen Solo]

Nicely reasoned. I hadn't thought of it that way. :)

Assuming Marcus Truman is really dead and not simply captured and turned into a hybrid. (I don't believe that; I'm just being snarky.)

[nekollx]

Can you really blame Dillon for acting as though he has forgiven Doctor K? She is the only person left on the entire planet with the intellect to treat him with an antivirus. Without her, he would current be Dillon 7, Generation 7 Infiltration Attack-Bot Unit.

At least Dillon's alive. Doctor K caused the deaths of practically the entire world's population (including the family and friends of the Rangers). If I were Dillon, I'd be pretty pissed, but at the same time thankful I'm not in Marcus Truman's situation.

A lot of people are hating on K with reason but do they any think of how she feels. She had a family, was abducted, and ended up killing everyone...including her own folks...and shes younger then everyone...

[Mr. White]

Speaking of K's parents... Did they even notice that the Alphabet Soup agents took her?

[Huzzah]

Well as far as what K was doing, she probably thought what they were working on was something that would ultimately aid the human race, more than destroying. It started with good intentions...though we all know that so many of the world's problems stem from good intentions. I mean you're as young, and probably idealistic, as Dr. K you really think that whatever you're doing is for the best, you have this profound want to help, the problem that comes with that youth though is a lack of foresight. You only see the good, you don't fathom the bad that could happen with your "good intentions." At the time it seemed like a good idea, then things all just went to hell.

Also I found it weird that K was talking to Venjix the way she was, telling him/it, that it was too dangerous to be released...it was like she was talking to something apart from a program...more like a sentient being...something that was far more than advanced AI...but then again it's late so my brain is probably taking things in about a million different directions right now...so if I sound like a completely blithering idiot, I apologize...

[Beast King]

Speaking of K's parents... Did they even notice that the Alphabet Soup agents took her?They must have done, you know how parents are.

[Neo Aguni]

Nicely reasoned. I hadn't thought of it that way. :)

Assuming Marcus Truman is really dead and not simply captured and turned into a hybrid. (I don't believe that; I'm just being snarky.)

ummm Marcus's plane exploded remember?

[Thrax]

She won't be on the Rangers' side for long...just like what happened with Karone in PRiS

welll maybe Venjix use Tenaya to lore the rangers to come, and Kilobyte join forces with him to destroy the rangers

[Beast King]

I honsetly don't want Kilobyte to merge with Tenaya 7!!!!

[Thrax]

I honsetly don't want Kilobyte to merge with Tenaya 7!!!!

is more like for example rangers battle Kilobyte inside of the palace and Tenaya tries to find something for help the rangers aganst Venjix

[Crimson Soul]

Speaking of K's parents... Did they even notice that the Alphabet Soup agents took her?

If there's anybody that can cover their tracks, it's our own federal government.

[Thrax]

If there's anybody that can cover their tracks, it's our own federal government.

Agreed and the K parents maybe be dead in the Venjix attack for take over the world

[nekollx]

Agreed and the K parents maybe be dead in the Venjix attack for take over the world

no maybe its a pretty good slam dunk. Their either dead or in hybrid camps...

and you know that has to be killing K.

[Thrax]

no maybe its a pretty good slam dunk. Their either dead or in hybrid camps...

and you know that has to be killing K.

Venjix is use the hybrids is like a ultimate soluction to Venjix

[Jacen Solo]

Speaking of K's parents... Did they even notice that the Alphabet Soup agents took her?

Unless Alphabet Soup silenced them.

[Thrax]

Unless Alphabet Soup silenced them.

they try to silence Dr.K for know one know the begins of Venjix

[Aeon87]

So much for the Dino Rangers huh? If we do get a battelizer this season i reckon red's going to merge with the palio zords or something. What's going on with killerbyte's voice i liked it when he was first introduced two episodes ago man i hate when they do that. Mack's also dead or is he? Y'know i've also been thinking something when Doc K mentioned the time space continuom. What about Time Force? could they get them and stop Doc K from releasing venjix?

[Thrax]

So much for the Dino Rangers huh? If we do get a battelizer this season i reckon red's going to merge with the palio zords or something. What's going on with killerbyte's voice i liked it when he was first introduced two episodes ago man i hate when they do that. Mack's also dead or is he? Y'know i've also been thinking something when Doc K mentioned the time space continuom. What about Time Force? could they get them and stop Doc K from releasing venjix?



well maybe TF as decided to come help the others rangers to fight aganst Venjix when he as try to take over the world, but even if they come to help they dont have many changes to change the things with huge army of Venjix have

[Beast King]

So much for the Dino Rangers huh?

Oh my, people actually thought they'd show up?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

You do understand Venjix needs to happen for TIME FORCE AS AN AGENCY to exist, right? The apocalypse is a key part of how Time Force rose to power in the first place. Risking anything that might thwart Venjix is courting timeline contamination and self-erasure.

[Thrax]

You do understand Venjix needs to happen for TIME FORCE AS AN AGENCY to exist, right? The apocalypse is a key part of how Time Force rose to power in the first place. Risking anything that might thwart Venjix is courting timeline contamination and self-erasure.

yes, i understand, but we dont know if even TF come help the others rangers teams in the Venjix take over

[Beast King]

I think i might have confused matters, i added a quote to my post so it makes more sense.

[Speedbreaker]

You do understand Venjix needs to happen for TIME FORCE AS AN AGENCY to exist, right? The apocalypse is a key part of how Time Force rose to power in the first place. Risking anything that might thwart Venjix is courting timeline contamination and self-erasure.
Oh wow... that gives the cut scene in Forever Red where Trip assures Wes and Eric that nothing they did altered the timeline (which may have happened offscreen anyway) a whole new, darker perspective.

Poor Trip has to lie-by-omission to his friends, neglecting to mention that their mission actually ensured the apocalypse would happen in a way ensuring Time Force's eventual rise to power. I can see Alex doing that without a twinge of guilt, but knowing Trip, that's gotta be tearing him up inside.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Um, Crimson Soul? You screwed up. The cut scene is supposed to be from Forever Red, GIVEN THIS CONVERSATION PERTAINS TO VENJIX IN THE FIRST PLACE. Speedbreaker deserves an apology.

(does it creep anybody else that moderators are hacking into people's posts and "correcting" things in the first place, especially when they themselves are WRONG and the original post is RIGHT?)

[Speedbreaker]

Yeah... they say a picture is worth a thousand words, so let this one sum up my feelings:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/venjix/zedd_facepalm.jpg

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I'd like the mods to answer this: since when are you allowed to change the content of people's posts because you THINK they made a mistake? Not just deleting posts for maliciously jacking a thread for the user's own purposes, not just removing unwitting or unnoticed profanity or inappropriate content, but "you misspoke, I'LL CORRECT YOU EVEN THOUGH I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SAID."

[Crimson Soul]

I apologize to Speedbreaker. I misunderstood his post. It was my own fault.

[Beast King]

*Some wise-*** walks in* Ok, what does any of this have to do with the RPM episode?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

How dare we contribute to the quality of this board!

[Digifiend]

*Some wise-*** walks in* Ok, what does any of this have to do with the RPM episode?lol, true, Forever Red is literally Ancient History in RPM! :lol:

[Thrax]

lol, true, Forever Red is literally Ancient History in RPM!

thats as a really good truth !!

[Beast King]

Ok, everything after this post, must be on topic!!!!!!

[Quark]

STOP. Please?

[Digifiend]

Ok. This ep introduced a train based Megazord. Better than the previous two? (LR and MF)

[Beast King]

I wouldn't say that, this one isn't going to be seen very much after its debut, the next episode it will, Then we have the RPM ultrazord, meaning we won't be seeing a lot of the original combos any more.

[Digifiend]

Good point. Dragonzord Battle Mode was hardly used after Ultrazord came in in season 1.

[Beast King]

Oh well, i hope they find a useful way to use the footage.

[DoctorKosmic]

My major gripe with this episode is the fact that Dr. K said that they could never get the Paleozords to work in the past, since they were based on a bio-fields of extinct animals. Could someone give me her exact description?

That was subsequently forgotten, and they managed to get the Zords with no great difficulty. Does that mean that at the present time in RPM's timeline, those creatures, or at least possible spirits or conciousnesses of them are actually living?

Could the failure of these Zords in the past have spurred Alphabet Soup to genetically engineer these creatures from fossils or the like to get the Zords to work? The experiments were possibly left unfinished in the wake of the Venjix attack, with possible Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops and Mammoth babies left to grow up in the wasteland?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

What makes you so sure the Corinthian Defense Force isn't genetically engineering all manner of extinct animals to survive in the wilds to help restore the ecosystem? I mean, they SHOULD start with marine animals and dump them into Boston Harbor like so much tea, but...

[DoctorKosmic]

What makes you so sure the Corinthian Defense Force isn't genetically engineering all manner of extinct animals to survive in the wilds to help restore the ecosystem? I mean, they SHOULD start with marine animals and dump them into Boston Harbor like so much tea, but...

Nothing at all makes me "so sure". I didn't even consider that possibility, so therefore I had no opinion of it. Please don't put words in my mouth, Chris.

In any case, I'd think the Corinthian Defence force are having enough trouble as it is without devoting their time, effort, scientific knowledge and resources to create wasteland-resistant animals, when it would more likely be going to the war effort and the survival of mankind. And anybody in the dome who WOULD have advanced knowledge of genetic engineering are probably ex-employees of Alphabet Soup, and, if not completely wiped out, they'd probably be in Corinth hiding out and not bringing any attention to themselves.

At the moment, they live in a regulated dome, with it's own mini ecosystem. If they were to do such a large project like repopulation, Chris, surely it would be better done AFTER destroying Venjix?

Not to say small scale versions of this aren't going on inside the dome, though. I'm sure that Corinth's food supply relies on a combination of genetically engineered animals/plants and regular old farming.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

But releasing animals back into the wild will either divert forces from Venjix and/or begin to modify the ecosystem in spite of Venjix's presence. They need to consider application of resources if and when they do take back the planet. People are going to get restless and resentful to transition from a military-run government fighting a war to a military-run government supervising reconstruction of the entire planet. Setting the project in motion now shows Truman not only has a plan, but inspires further confidence in the military as a permanent dictatorship rather than an interim government. Fewer people are libel to question when the Defense Force remains in charge this way. Less risk of civil war or malcontent uprisings. Who loses? Particularly if genetic engineering or extensive use of synthetrons is producing their meat or livestock as it is. Creating things which can survive outside of the dome, eat the considerable vegetation left despite the erosion and deserts, and procreate on their own ONLY BENEFITS THEM LATER.

[nekollx]

But releasing animals back into the wild will either divert forces from Venjix and/or begin to modify the ecosystem in spite of Venjix's presence. They need to consider application of resources if and when they do take back the planet. People are going to get restless and resentful to transition from a military-run government fighting a war to a military-run government supervising reconstruction of the entire planet. Setting the project in motion now shows Truman not only has a plan, but inspires further confidence in the military as a permanent dictatorship rather than an interim government. Fewer people are libel to question when the Defense Force remains in charge this way. Less risk of civil war or malcontent uprisings. Who loses? Particularly if genetic engineering or extensive use of synthetrons is producing their meat or livestock as it is. Creating things which can survive outside of the dome, eat the considerable vegetation left despite the erosion and deserts, and procreate on their own ONLY BENEFITS THEM LATER.

and what happens when they clash withthe existing wild life.
I get the impression Venjix only killed humanity not all organic life.

[Bighead]

I get the impression Venjix only killed humanity not all organic life.

Nukes don't discriminate.

[Jacen Solo]

Ok. This ep introduced a train based Megazord. Better than the previous two? (LR and MF)

Solar Streak was awesome, as were Lightspeed and Supertrain. I'm not sure I necessarily like the PaleoZord more than I did the others, but I do think it's pretty cool. It reminds me of the original Megazord. Though it does seem ironic that the mammoth is the main part of the Megazord and the T-Rex is one of the legs.


You do understand Venjix needs to happen for TIME FORCE AS AN AGENCY to exist, right? The apocalypse is a key part of how Time Force rose to power in the first place. Risking anything that might thwart Venjix is courting timeline contamination and self-erasure.

Forgive me, Crayfish, but I don't understand that. I mean, it makes sense, but was there anything in TF that insinuated Time Force rose due to an apocalypse/disaster that occurred in the past?

On a different, however related, note, Doctor K said that if she could access the space-time continuum long enough to undo her mistake, she would, but it wasn't possible. Did she mean that time travel itself wasn't possible (which, in-universe, is incorrect), or that going back to correct that specific mistake wasn't possible?

[Digifiend]

If time travel tech is still at SPD levels, K would be transformed into a ball of energy (remember Sam?) meaning she wouldn't physically be able to do anything. Time ships (as seen in TF) haven't been invented yet, that's over 800 years away. So time travel is simply impossible at the present time (which is late 21st or early 22nd century), but not in the year 3000!

[Jacen Solo]

That makes sense. Random time holes appear now and then (e.g., the one that took Kimberly to 1880 in "Wild West Rangers" and the one that brought Katana to 2025), but it wasn't until 3000 that time travel was able to be controlled. Is that what you're getting at?

[Jacen Solo]

But what about Blue Senturion? He traveled from the year 2000 with no side effects (that we're aware of).

[Digifiend]

That makes sense. Random time holes appear now and then (e.g., the one that took Kimberly to 1880 in "Wild West Rangers" and the one that brought Katana to 2025), but it wasn't until 3000 that time travel was able to be controlled. Is that what you're getting at?Exactly.

Senturion was using alien technology (Eltarian?), and also, he's a robot. Earth hasn't perfected time travel yet.

[Jacen Solo]

Exactly.

Senturion was using alien technology (Eltarian?), and also, he's a robot. Earth hasn't perfected time travel yet.

Nice!

I would assume it was Eltarian technology, as he was familiar with Zordon and Dimitria. He did head to Eltar's defense. That's merely conjecture, though; is it explicity stated anywhere?

[Digifiend]

No, that's why I used a question mark. I assumed Eltar based on the events of Chase into Space and Countdown to Destruction. Unlike Senturion's counterpart Signalman in Carranger, we don't know what planet Blue Senturion originally came from.

[The 2nd Evil]

Forgive me, Crayfish, but I don't understand that. I mean, it makes sense, but was there anything in TF that insinuated Time Force rose due to an apocalypse/disaster that occurred in the past?

No, but there was something during Wild Force.

During the Reinforcements From The Future flashback (er... flashforward?) of when Ransik created the MutOrgs, he was wondering around a barren destroyed wasteland.

Just like the one outside Corinth's front door.

[pinkranger2000]

and the "Utopia made possible by TF" in the back was also a dome, IIRC.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Millennium City was not a domed enclosure.

[DoctorKosmic]

But releasing animals back into the wild will either divert forces from Venjix and/or begin to modify the ecosystem in spite of Venjix's presence. They need to consider application of resources if and when they do take back the planet. People are going to get restless and resentful to transition from a military-run government fighting a war to a military-run government supervising reconstruction of the entire planet. Setting the project in motion now shows Truman not only has a plan, but inspires further confidence in the military as a permanent dictatorship rather than an interim government. Fewer people are libel to question when the Defense Force remains in charge this way. Less risk of civil war or malcontent uprisings. Who loses? Particularly if genetic engineering or extensive use of synthetrons is producing their meat or livestock as it is. Creating things which can survive outside of the dome, eat the considerable vegetation left despite the erosion and deserts, and procreate on their own ONLY BENEFITS THEM LATER.


But really, while that may possibly be a viable idea in the near future, I don't think they're quite at that point yet. Do you really think that Mason Truman is thinking this far ahead? I think that right now, he's just concerned for the safety of Corinth. Besides, I highly doubt that Colonel Truman will stay in command of Corinth, and I highly doubt Truman wants to be SUPREME RULER of Corinth.

There more than likely WILL be a handful of uprisings and wars between RPM's time and Time Force. It'd be hard to imagine there NOT being any wars.

The idea of a Corinthian Civil War is interesting. Would the Rangers possibly be called into action during the war? Given Dr. K's anti-government sentiments, she may be a little uneasy at a government organisation using her Rangertech. I wonder if there would be conscription or not?

Considering the size and population of Corinth, i can't imagine that the warring would go on for too long, lest they wipe themselves out.

Although, perhaps the need for armies is how the Genetic Modification experiments progressed beyond that of farming. We all know that a lot of the greatest technological advancements have been discovered due to War. It's then only a natural progression to the level of Human Engineering we see in Time Force, especially considering Corinth's small gene pool, and radioactive diseases.

In the intervening years between RPM and Time Force, it would be interesting if the government actually held their position of power simply by having their own Ranger team(s) wholly seperate from Dr. K to control the population and keep everyone in check.

Also, I wonder, once Venjix is defeated and they begin to rebuild and repopulate, if the RPM Rangers will have any standing in the government beyond being heroes?

[Fenix84]

I was pretty disappointed in this one. IMO it's RPM's worst episode since the duology of crap that was "Blitz" and "Brother's Keeper." That's not to say that "Ancient History" is as actively bad as those two; it just did nothing for me overall as the good parts (which were VERY good) were canceled out by the idiotic parts (which were VERY bad). I guess the law of averages would have given us another subpar episode sooner or later; I've been consistently impressed with this season's quality since "In or Out."

As I said before, this episode had some very good parts. The first scene with Tenaya exploring the ruins of Alphabet Soup immediately got me excited about the potential revelations and story developments. I liked how the villains found the burnt-out remains of a Power Ranger helmet in the wreckage. I didn't pay attention enough while watching to determine it which one it was; but I see that you guys have identified it as an Overdrive helmet. It was probably just a prop being reused, but it could also imply continuity between RPM and the rest of the PRU now that the show has been handed over to a new showrunner.

It's not long after that bit of awesomeness that the first of the episode's stupidities shows up. Tenaya discovers Alphabet Soup's hidden stash within Corinth's dome. This really doesn't make sense. If the agency behind Alphabet Soup was as ruthless and borderline rogue as it's been portrayed, it would have hunted down Dr. K for what she did. The impression that I had before was that Alphabet Soup was a small operation, and that what few agents it had were wiped out during Venjix's conquest. That scenario would have actually made it plausible for Dr. K to live and operate as freely as she has over the course of this season, in full knowledge of the Corinth military. Now how does it make any sense if Alphabet Soup had also made it to Corinth? Where did all their sinister agents go?

Tenaya reports her findings back to Venjix, only to discover that Kilobyte has already done so. Kilobyte is working on a new "Series 2" robot, which conflicts with the "Generation ____" terminology that's been used throughout the season. Also, Crunch has been working on things with Kilobyte...a minor non-issue that ENRAGES Tenaya. So much that she talks about choosing sides, and making Crunch pay, in full view of the big guy Venjix himself. Why would Venjix tolerate this idiotic infighting? At least Kilobyte had the sense to shoot Tenaya in the last episode when the boss wasn't looking. The sudden beef between Tenaya and Crunch also makes no sense because Crunch is just an idiot, while Tenaya's REAL enemy is Kilobyte. Why would she even waste time with him? Why did the episode choose to go down this route so suddenly, when as recently as the previous scene, Crunch had been tagging along with Tenaya like her stupid friend?

Dr. K finds out that the villains are about to expose her involvement with Venjix, and sends the Rangers out to cover it up. Now, I understand that her secret is a big deal, but bringing it out now after it hadn't been addressed for a dozen episodes just seems strange. Especially when the Rangers have learned the truth and been so indifferent to it. Later, after Colonel Truman finds out, the Rangers also aren't afraid that they'll be punished for their part in the coverup. This plot would have made perfect sense if it had come around episode 15, but it just seems strange now.

Green hills and forests are an uncommon sight this season, and that was nice to see. But the episode leans heavily into Sentai footage as the Rangers get into the underground stash, and later discover the Paleozord. A dinosaur train, WTF. But that's Go-Onger for you.

Colonel Truman sees an old video of Dr. K working with Venjix. She's apparently teaching it how to crack government codes, and later talks about how it will help her on the Ranger Project. Funaro has said over and over again that RPM's Venjix defies the season's own stance that it is a virus. In "Ancient History," it's portrayed more as a highly-capable AI with multiple uses including the ability to design things that its own "creator" can't do alone. Another bit of evidence begging for RPM to be in continuity, and for Venjix to be Venjix.

As I said before, the Rangers don't seem to face any consequences for keeping secrets from the Colonel, even as he tries to take down Dr. K. I really liked her use of holograms in this episode; the hologram coming out of its repetitive loop and continuing to interact with the Rangers was unexpected and clever. Interesting line about recording loops being "So last century." If RPM is just a few years into our future (as Eddie said), then realistic and intelligent computer holograms aren't exactly "last century," unless the more advanced PRU had such tech in the 1990s or before. Not a rock solid argument, but this could be used to support the idea that RPM takes place more than a century from now, as many of us initially believed.

I haven't said anything about it before, but the shaky-cam is overused and getting annoying. A little bit of shaking can instill some energy into a fight scene (as "And...Action!" states), but too much and it just gets distracting and stupid. I've tolerated it before, but in this episode it seemed particularly excessive. The Rangers were pulling off some pretty cool unmorphed fight moves, but I couldn't get into it because the camera just wouldn't stop shaking. I just lost interest during this fight, which seemed to go on too long as well.

The episode got a little more interesting when Dr. K used dozens of holograms to cooly deceive the Corinth soldiers chasing her down.

Now here's where the episode just hits the wall. Dr. K instructs Dillon, Ziggy, Gem, and Gemma to call their Megazords and make preparations to hook up with the Paleozord the moment she gains control of it. Fair enough, since "Three's a Crowd" had already portrayed Zord combinations as a vageuly complicated process involving the synchronization of biofields. That's justification for the Rangers to call their Megazords and stand around trying to adjust their settings...NOT to suddenly start wailing on each other in an impromptu sparring match. I was shocked at how lazily the Sentai Zord fight was just placed into the middle of the RPM episode without the slightest bit of logic. The macho sparring in the middle of a battle against REAL enemies just made all the Rangers involved look like a bunch of morons. This is the kind of inexplicable idiocy that ought to be punished with failing grades. Except that despite all of my complaints above, this episode hadn't been nearly that stupid up until now (and it would later display some more flashes of quality).

Truman finds Dr. K back in the command center, where she talks him into letting her go. She teaches him moral of letting go of pains from the past, because the present and the future are more important. That's a sensible way to think, and it's practically RPM's central theme (it can also be applied to Ziggy's criminal past, Dillon getting new friends and new memories to replace his old ones, Summer becoming a better person, etc). However, I would have rather seen Truman come to that realization himself, after hearing the Rangers' calls for help. Having Dr. K teach him even as he sought to punish her for indirectly causing the death of billions, while mourning the loss of his son son, came off as a bit presumptuous. Bringing up Marcus again was a nice touch, but I hated Truman's line about him losing more than most people. 99.9% of humanity has been exterminated Truman; you lost about as much as everyone else.

The goofy Paleomax Megazord pwns the monster, before we're treated to a scene of Tenaya doing her creepy whistling stalker act on Crunch. Why are they even continuing that pointless story? The episode ends with some surprisingly lighthearted (and well done) humor, after handling such heavy subject matter before.

This episode could have been great, but unfortunately it just came out sloppy and stupid.

Rating: 5/10