Power Rangers: R.P.M. Discussion Thread

[terrierlee]

Story:
In the near future, the mysterious and sinister Venjix Computer Network is attempting to conquer and lay ruin to the entire planet. Mankind has retreated into environmentally-shielded domed cities to protect against the pollution and machines unleashed by Venjix. In the shining city of Corinth, an elite force of Rangers must learn to drive and operate an arsenal of radically advanced biotech vehicles in order to battle the attacking machine army bent on world domination.

Executive Producers:
Eddie Guzelian (Episodes 1-18)
Judd "Chip" Lynn (Episodes 19-32)

Spoilers: http://www.rangercrew.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11608


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Cast:
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Eka Darville - Scott (Red Eagle Ranger)
Fan Site: http://www.ekadarville.com

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Dan Ewing - Dillon (Black Wolf Ranger)
Fan Site: http://www.danewing.com

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Ari Boyland - Flynn McAllistair (Blue Lion Ranger)
Official Profile: http://johnsonlaird.com/actors/Ari_Boyland
Fan Site: http://www.ariboyland.com

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Rose McIver - Summer Landsdown (Yellow Bear Ranger)
Fan Site: http://www.rosemciveronline.com (http://www.rosemciveronline.com/)

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Milo Cawthorne - Ziggy Grover (Green Shark Ranger)
Fan Site: http://www.milocawthorne.com

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Mike Ginn - Gem (Gold Ranger)
Official Profile: http://johnsonlaird.com/actors/Mike_Ginn
Fan Site: http://www.mikeginnonline.com

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Li Ming Hu - Gemma (Silver Ranger)

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Olivia Tennet - Dr. K (Rangers' Mentor)

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James Gaylyn - Colonel Truman (Scott's father)
Official Profile: http://www.kractors.co.nz/details.php?act_id=15

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Adelaide Kane - Tenaya 7 (Villain)
Fan Site: http://www.adelaidekane.net
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Fan Sites:
http://www.rpmcast.com
http://www.linearranger.com/RPM
http://rpm.powerrangersgateway.com/

[terrierlee]

Power Rangers: R.P.M. Episode Guide
01) The Road To Corinth (3/7/2009)
02) Fade To Black (3/7/2009)
03) Rain (3/14/2009)
04) Go For The Green (3/21/2009)
05) Handshake (3/28/2009)
06) Ranger Green (4/4/2009)
07) Ranger Red (4/11/2009)
08) Ranger Yellow, I (4/18/2009)
09) Ranger Yellow, II (4/25/2009)
10) Ranger Blue (5/2/2009)
11) Doctor K (5/9/2009)
12) Blitz (5/16/2009)
13) Brother's Keeper (5/23/2009)
14) Embodied (6/13/2009)
15) Ghosts (6/20/2009)
16) In Or Out (7/4/2009)
17) Prisoners (7/11/2009)
18) Belly Of The Beast (8/1/09)
19) Three's A Crowd (8/8/09)
20) Heroes Among Us (8/15/09)
21) Not So Simple (8/22/09)
22) The Dome Dolls (9/5/09)
23) And...Action (9/12/09)
24) Ancient History (9/19/09)
25) Key To The Past (9/26/09)
26) Beyond A Doubt (9/26/09)
27) Control - Alt - Delete (10/3/09)
28) Run Ziggy Run (10/3/09)
29) If Venjix Won (12/19/09)
30) End Game (12/19/09)
31) Danger And Destiny, I (12/26/09)
32) Danger And Destiny, II (12/26/09)

Power Rangers: R.P.M. airs on ABC Kids on Saturday mornings (not available with all ABC Affiliates).

Episode titles are confirmed by Burgundy Ranger (http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/prstuff/prgrid.html)

[terrierlee]

Extra Cast Members

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Damien Avery - Corporal Hicks
Fan Site: http://www.damienavery.com

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Jason Hoyte - Mr. McAllistair

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Charlie McDermott - General Crunch (voice)
Official Profile: http://johnsonlaird.com/assets/documents/1325/1325_actor_biography.pdf

Mark Mitchison - General Shifter (voice)
Official Profile: http://www.kractors.co.nz/detailsx.php?act_id=190

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Adam Gardiner - Attack-Bot
Official Profile: http://johnsonlaird.com/assets/documents/1151/1151_actor_biography.pdf

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Murray Keane - Benny
Official Profile: http://www.kractors.co.nz/detailsx.php?act_id=28

[Beast King]

I get first post :)

[TZMhero]

Official thread is official. So...That RPm show... what to talk about.




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I wanna see Ziggy dance with toothbrushes.

[Beast King]

OR!! Dr.K goes through some of Ziggy's stuff and finds a tape of Ziggy doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbZMv52WCPY

[Digifiend]

This is all copy/pasted from the old thread isn't it terrierlee? Surely it's possible to add a picture of Milo now, and has Heidi Bradhurt appeared yet?

[Beast King]

I think you can forget about her, she doesn't seem to be in RPM at all.

[Digifiend]

Exactly, if she hasn't appeared yet, safe to say she won't and she can be removed from the cast list. Her IMDB entry is blank as it happens.

[Mr. Blue]

Yeah, she is not needed in the list anymore.

[terrierlee]

Heidi Bradhurt was removed, and I added a picture of Milo. Though I couldn't for the life of me manage to shrink it like the others.

[Xerox]

Bringing in a quote from the RPM Discussion Thread part 1:

I personally think it'd be crazy if Dillon turns evil after Tenaya has been somehow purged of whatever programming is keeping her from being good again. This could then turn into like I had mentioned before either in this thread or another... if they have similar enough DNA, maybe she would become Operations Series Black (which would new american footage so i doubt it) to try and save Dillon.
Something like this?
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z91/FierceDeityRanger/th_tenayablack.png (http://s190.photobucket.com/albums/z91/FierceDeityRanger/?action=view&current=tenayablack.png)
(Try to ignore the crappy photoshop job. I tried to make it perfect but didn't feel like spending any more time than necessary on it. You get the idea.)

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

In small form, that actually looks kind of awesome.

[Xerox]

Lol, that's why I chose the thumbnail view rather than full blown. I assume after you clicked it you kinda went "awww man...that is one ugly photoshop." (or something to that effect)

[TZMhero]

Yeah it does, although, I'm sorry, but seeing the Tenaya hips on a guy's upper body makes me snort and chuckle and guffaw, something awful.

As Crayfish said, the small picture does look pretty rad though.

[Xerox]

It's actually all her upper body, I just put the seatbelt straps and logo on her suit. Because I didn't modify the straps, her chest looks rather flat. But I'm glad it gave you a laugh!

[TZMhero]

maybe thats why... I couldn't do any better so i wont criticize too much xp

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

It looks more than passable as it is. But yes, don't enlarge it and it looks much sleeker.

(it's not like CHARLIE'S rack was discernible in her armor, really)

[TZMhero]

It all could be worse. She could be proportioned like the female rangers always are in the coloring books and other such merchandise I see about. They give all the girl's DD's and impossibly small stomachs in those damn things. I'm fine with Tenaya not looking busty in any way... even if her normal costume kinda accents her chest >_>

[BurgundyRanger]

Truth be known, the best shot of Tenaya is the walking away shot.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

She's the designated cheesecake of the season. Easily the most stripperiffic outfit we've had on a villainess in a while. The nonsensically low zipper, for instance.

(see, Toei either would have made it way more tasteless or way more subtle)

[TZMhero]

The zipper's low, but it's no where near villainess from Go-Onger's gratuitous cleavage shots.
Oh, how we can dream.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

Like I said, way more tasteless.

[Mugenhunt]

Part of me really wants to see her photoshopped into the Kegalesia outfit. Just for the lulz.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

God, the scene I'd have killed for after Dillon found out? His grabbing her zipper and yanking it up.

[tkdnmb]

i think shes one of the prettiest actresses on pr in ever

[Quark]

Part of me really wants to see her photoshopped into the Kegalesia outfit. Just for the lulz.

Hoppin' on the photomanip wagon.

[Samurai Pink]

Are we talkin about Tenaya here?

[Xerox]

Hoppin' on the photomanip wagon.

Beats the hell outta mine! I think Tenaya's suit is sexier, but less hilarious.

[Hears All]

Tenaya's hotness knows no bounds :D

[Beast King]

Are we talkin about Tenaya here?We're doing a bit of both, and wow Quark, that actually looks convincing.

[TZMhero]

Yeah, not bad, although it doesn't accent the cleavage like we were talking about. xp

[Reaper]

Tenaya = Absolute Hotness. I'd watch RPM just for her lol Did we get a new episode(s) yesterday?

[AoBlue]

That's really good Quark!

[Digifiend]

Did we get a new episode(s) yesterday?No - no more until December 19th.

[Mr. Blue]

You'll have to excuse DTGR sometimes, he hasn't been really paying attention to episode information lately :p

[Jacen Solo]

Tenaya = Absolute Hotness. I'd watch RPM just for her lol

This!

As I've said on many an occasion, Tenaya is here, and Miratrix she ain't. Miratrix was cute, but nowhere near the level of hotness of Tenaya.

The part when she waves at the Rangers at the very end of "Beyond a Doubt" still makes my jaw drop.

[Xerox]

Tenaya = Absolute Hotness.

I agree. However, I have been watching Lost Galaxy lately and I hate to say it, but Karone may be hotter. Just look at that leather they've got her always wearing. Now I see even MORE similarities between her and Tenaya...

[Thrax]

I agree. However, I have been watching Lost Galaxy lately and I hate to say it, but Karone may be hotter. Just look at that leather they've got her always wearing. Now I see even MORE similarities between her and Tenaya...

yh, Karone she is really hot in LG, but in IS she is really hot in the role of Astronema

[Beast King]

Tenaya = Absolute Hotness.I second that! Plus i wouldn't mind having Tenaya for a real life Girlfriend.

[Thrax]

I second that! Plus i wouldn't mind having Tenaya for a real life Girlfriend.

I Think no one mind to have Tenaya as Girlfriend

[terrierlee]

I don't know, you guys. I sure wouldn't want her for a girlfriend.

[Bighead]

What with the whole cyborg thing going on.

*cue speculation about the extent of Tenaya's prosthesis*

[Reaper]

No - no more until December 19th.

*Cries* No way!!! :rpmred::rpmblue::rpmyellow::rpmgreen::rpmblack:

[Thrax]

and the new episodes tittles will be release when !!!

[Digifiend]

You never know DTGR, Disney XD UK might air them before ABC Kids does in the US - we've finished the season before the US twice before.

[Reaper]

Hmm, lets hope so :D How many Eps are left? Is it 4, 6 or 8?

[Digifiend]

Quote from the first post in the spoiler thread.
Episode Summaries
29. Title Unconfirmed (12/19/2009) †
Info to be revealed on October 24, 2009.

30. Title Unconfirmed (12/19/2009) †
Info to be revealed on October 24, 2009.

31. Title Unconfirmed (12/26/2009)
Info to be revealed on October 31, 2009.

32. Title Unconfirmed (12/26/2009)
Info to be revealed on October 31, 2009.Four, and that answers Thrax's question as well.

[big_j_ny]

So a month of no RPM..........then when RPM comes back, it's directly the LAST 4 episodes. And after that, it's over..........we just get revamped MMPR and start over :sad:

[Reaper]

That's not too bad though. It'll be interestin to see what happens to it

[Thrax]

So a month of no RPM..........then when RPM comes back, it's directly the LAST 4 episodes. And after that, it's over..........we just get revamped MMPR and start over :sad:

yh, when RPM comes back is really to the final desicions

[ThatGuy83]

So a month of no RPM..........then when RPM comes back, it's directly the LAST 4 episodes. And after that, it's over..........we just get revamped MMPR and start over :sad: Yup, The end of PR is near. Enjoy it while you can.

[Beast King]

So a month of no RPM..........then when RPM comes back, it's directly the LAST 4 episodes. And after that, it's over..........we just get revamped MMPR and start over :sad:Thanks for rubbing it in.

[Xerox]

What with the whole cyborg thing going on.

*cue speculation about the extent of Tenaya's prosthesis*

Hey, you never know when and where that removable hand might come in handy. ;)

[Super BBC-America]

So a month of no RPM..........then when RPM comes back, it's directly the LAST 4 episodes. And after that, it's over..........we just get revamped MMPR and start over :sad:
No rpm for you for a month maybe. However my locals are showing replays of rpm!

[TZMhero]

Mine never showed RPM...xp
Always got 'Next up is Power Rangers RPM!' then The emperor's new School would play..... or Golf.

[Reaper]

I guess i'll start from Ep 1 and work my way back through again :D

[PowerOnyx]

Here's to re-watching the show for 17 more years.

One question:

Will you watch the Disney seasons again?

[Hears All]

Here's to re-watching the show for 17 more years.

One question:

Will you watch the Disney seasons again?

Yes. Nothing is wrong with it. The hate the Disney Era gets is completely stupid. Most will consider the Saban Era better, but the Disney Era is far from unwatchable

[tkdnmb]

hecks yeah. this is gonna give me a chance to catch up on the 6 or so seasons i missed. and i dont have to try and cram it all into the span of a week.

even though some are worth it.

jetman was :-P

[Mortal Ranger]

Re watching RPM on my PSP, and i gotta say, the Rangers have really come a long way, you can see the difference in their characters and how they've developed

[Thrax]

I will rewatching RPM and them i re-watching since the starts of PR, when RPM overs !!!

[Beast King]

Wow, i hope you have a lot of spare time then!

[Thrax]

Wow, i hope you have a lot of spare time then!

I will re-watching the starts when RPM really ends !!!

[Mr. Blue]

Yes. Nothing is wrong with it. The hate the Disney Era gets is completely stupid. Most will consider the Saban Era better, but the Disney Era is far from unwatchable


Yeah...About half of all PR fans around the world didn't care much for most of the Disney seaons at all and not liking how Disney was doing PR since starting with Ninja Storm. A few they liked but the rest they did not like much at all....

[Beast King]

People defend the Saban era too much, would it hurt if someone random came out and said the Saban era was crap?

[Quark]

I don't like Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed, Time Force, or Wild Force. There, I said it.

Be gentle.

[Reaper]

I agree. Lightspeed and Wild Force were, at best, terrible. I'd actually rate Saban and Disney as equals, and both have had good and bad moments :D

[Fang RX]

Lightspeed was pretty bad. Wild Force was disastorius. I'm one of the weirder ones, and I actually liked the Disney Era, except Overdrive. There....I said it. Be nice.

IMO, RPM is the best way to end PR. We're literally going out with a bang.

[Quark]

I don't necessarily think they're bad, I just have no incentive to watch them, really. I skipped Space - WF first time through, and so far only Space has kept my attention. They just kinda exist, no real connection to the show I watched as a kid.

[SirStack]

People defend the Saban era too much, would it hurt if someone random came out and said the Saban era was crap?

Why do whole eras have to crap and not just bad episodes be crap?


I don't like Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed, Time Force, or Wild Force. There, I said it.


Lightspeed and Wild Force were, at best, terrible


Wild Force was disastorius.

For the last time, people: Wild Force was DISNEY, not Saban. This is supposedly Saban vs Disney, not MMPR Productions versus Village Freakshow.

[Beast King]

Why do whole eras have to crap and not just bad episodes be crap? Because people seem to address the whole Disney era like that, i just wanted to turn the tables.

[Fang RX]

Wild Force, even though it was technically under Disney Produtcion, was the LAST SABAN SERIES. Disney Production began with Ninja Storm. So, it was still Saban vs Disney.

I personally liked all of Disney's Series, except for most of Mystic Force and Overdrive, so I don't see why you're getting pissed, SirStack.

[Mugenhunt]

I personally liked all of Disney's Series, except for most of Mystic Force and Overdrive, so I don't see why you're getting pissed, SirStack.

He's tired of having to correct people about Wild Force being a Disney series. The subtle nuance of "It was a Disney series, but still using the MMPR production team" is lost on most fans.

[Jacen Solo]

I didn't really see all that much of Wild Force, just a few episodes. I had essentially dropped off the viewership at that point. From what I saw, the acting was terrible, but there was a surprisingly dark plot arc with Cole's family. Forever Red and the TF-WF teamup were awesome. Cole got a shirtless scene, which not many Rangers can say.

[SirStack]

Wild Force, even though it was technically under Disney Produtcion, was the LAST SABAN SERIES. Disney Production began with Ninja Storm. So, it was still Saban vs Disney.

It wasn't part of the "Saban Series", as, again, nothing under any name of "Saban" had anything to do with a single frame of Wild Force. MMPR Productions was owned, lock stock and barrel, when it made PRWF. Disney actually owned them MORE than they own Village Roadkill Productions!

[Reaper]

Should this Disney Vs Saban thing be in a seperate thread really? Just fyi

[XxAKAREDxX]

I liked Wild Force D: I love the deer zord, and hate pollution.

[TZMhero]

I have to be honest. I stopped watching 'every episode' around the time of about half way through LG because of school and whatnot. From LG - WF I watched episodes here and there, gathering a good idea of the plot and usually catching a nice amount of the episodes. I remember laughing when i found out Rangers was switching from Fox to ABC kids, then to Disney Channel, it was hilarious to me, even if I dunno why now. Around Dino Thunder I started watching episodes more regularly, and I remember really enjoying parts of SPD, at least what I caught of it. MF OO and JF didn't do much for me, although there were elements of JF that I enjoyed, such as the Jungle Master Mode, and the majority of their Zords. I started watching JF about half way through after the first episode, and watched every episode from that point on, and I have seen all of RPM thus far.

From what I can say, I enjoyed Saban era PR. It had a certain charm to it, but it started feeling stale around Lightspeed Rescue, even if I liked some things about Time Force. I have mixed fealings about the Disney Season, but I did enjoy what I saw of DinoThunder.

I've enjoyed a lot of RPM, even if some things here and there grate my nerves, overall It's been fun.
So, really, I can't say which is greater for me... I missed a lot of both era's of PR, but I'm slowly trying to take the time to watch them now. Maybe after I've done this can I give a better idea of which part I liked better. I really can't say I hate Disney era PR, even if the majority of their seasons have left a bad taste in my mouth. Disney PR is it's own sort of thing... and it's showing what it can do now with RPM. I just wish it was sooner. RPM isn't the best thing in the world, it has it's faults, but think about it... if we had RPM earlier on, how much it could have been improved upon, or the seasons after it could have been better. So far, RPM is great, but I just wish we could see what could be done now that Disney PR has been really showing it's stuff. It did ti with DinoThunder... and now it's getter there with RPM, if the show hadn't been canceld... i'd love to have seen it again.

[Hears All]

Yeah...About half of all PR fans around the world didn't care much for most of the Disney seaons at all and not liking how Disney was doing PR since starting with Ninja Storm. A few they liked but the rest they did not like much at all....

You like periods, huh?

I don't know which fandom you are part of but Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, SPD and (so far) RPM are all pretty well recieved by most PR fans. I agree the Saban Era is better, but the Disney Era is really good when it wants to be and shouldn't be ignored when talking about some of the best PR seasons

[Digifiend]

Looks like the difference here is critical acclaim vs ratings success. The most successful seasons ratings wise are the first two MMPRs and Lost Galaxy if I'm not mistaken, and the lowest are Overdrive, Jungle Fury, and RPM.

[Bighead]

I thought it was MMPR, Time Force and Space?

[Digifiend]

Pretty sure they're the next two in the list.

[Shadow Borg]

You like periods, huh?

I don't know which fandom you are part of but Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, SPD and (so far) RPM are all pretty well recieved by most PR fans. I agree the Saban Era is better, but the Disney Era is really good when it wants to be and shouldn't be ignored when talking about some of the best PR seasons

Which is ironic since Saban also managed to totally screw up Kamen Rider in one go(Masked Rider)*according to most Rider fans*

[Hears All]

Which is ironic since Saban also managed to totally screw up Kamen Rider in one go(Masked Rider)

I dont get the irony

Masked Rider didn't screw up anything, they didn't do anything wrong in the eyes of Saban. MR was pulled because Shotaro Ishinomori was insulted at how they treated RX.

We're lucky we got a second chance, and IMO we aren't doing much better, but thats a different discussion

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

Ishinomori didn't get Masked Rider canceled. Low ratings got it canceled. After MR ended and the Heisei Rider programs began the production team refused to let anyone else license the programs unless they showed "due respect" to the material, but you seem to have a nonsensical idea of how licensing works. Toei, as distributor of Kamen Rider in Japan, had every legal right to sanction Saban as US distributor for Black RX. Ishimori Productions could not and did not revoke Toei's right to distribute BRX through Saban as Saban's Masked Rider. Indeed, the only stipulation Ishimori Productions made regarding the show was that it HAD to be titled Masked Rider. Ishinomori hating the show had nothing to do with it.

[Shadow Borg]

I dont get the irony

Masked Rider didn't screw up anything, they didn't do anything wrong in the eyes of Saban. MR was pulled because Shotaro Ishinomori was insulted at how they treated RX.

We're lucky we got a second chance, and IMO we aren't doing much better, but thats a different discussion

It's ironic imo cause lots of people love PR(even some Sentai fans) But Masked Rider is pretty much universally hated and the general consensus among the fandom is that it "screwed up Kamen Rider"(Most people see KR as a "dark" kind of series" I dislike it but I don't think it ruined Kamen Rider maybe Black RX*which I'm not the biggest fan of anyway* but not the series as a whole(watch Deno it's similar to MK in the fact that it's pretty much a comedy)

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

Masked Rider IS universally hated. So is Shin. Nobody thinks Shin ruined Kamen Rider.

[TZMhero]

I enjoyed Masked Rider. I was also 7... so i think it's okay.
I haven't seen much of Shin, but what I've seen looked....um...interesting.

[Beast King]

the production team refused to let anyone else license the programs unless they showed "due respect" to the materialI'm sorry if i sound stupid or anything, but what do you mean by "Due respect"?

[Digifiend]

Not making the Rider an evolved insect? Not having a puppet sidekick (Ferbus)?

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

I don't know how personal honor works, I'm American!

Yeah, relish it, peoples of the world. You all thought it.

[Beast King]

Not having a puppet sidekick (Ferbus)?Haven't Disney been doing that for a while? Phineas? Norg?

[Zappa_0]

just started watching the series yesterday and ill have to say its pretty good. im really suprised with it.

[Shadow Borg]

Masked Rider IS universally hated. So is Shin. Nobody thinks Shin ruined Kamen Rider.Maybe cause it's japanese and some "hardcore" Toku fans seem to think americanizations destroy franchises >_<


I enjoyed Masked Rider. I was also 7... so i think it's okay.
I haven't seen much of Shin, but what I've seen looked....um...interesting.

I enjoyed it as a kid too...then I saw some Rider programs(including some of Black) and tried to rewatch it and couldn't stand it(especially Ferbus I HATE Ferbus>_>)Which is ironic since I prefer PR to Sentai(save Mystic Force,Ninja Storm and 00 In which I prefer the Sentai versions)as to RPM it's the first time I've really enjoyed PR since SPD and the Once a Ranger team up(Jungle Fury was ok though):spdblue::rpmblack::mmblack:

[Hears All]

Masked Rider IS universally hated. So is Shin. Nobody thinks Shin ruined Kamen Rider.

It was something Shotaro Ishinomori wanted to do before his death, I guess the fandom respects him enough to not insult his wishes, even if it may be bad. Shotaro's ideas are highly respected

[Samurai Pink]

What else can talk about that's rpm since there won't be any new episodes for a while.

[O.92]

What else can talk about that's rpm since there won't be any new episodes for a while.

We can always discuss what clips we hope to see make it into the clip show. That sounds fun.

[TZMhero]

Or how yellow Yellowfuryranger20's avatar is.



Hmm... I'd like the clip of 'what's a power ranger?'...that would be a fun intro.

[toughturnips]

I can see the clip show of them in a situation or maybe just hanging out in the garage and they all take turns thinking back how much they've changed since the beginning and it ends with Ziggy telling them what he saw in the case Fresno Bob gave Tenaya and Dr. K confirms what it really means for them. That or it ends with Dillon being told he doesn't have long until 50 percent from Ctrl Alt Delete and he reaches that percentage by the end of this episode.

In a way I'm kind of glad the clip show is airing along with a new show after. A trip down memory lane wouldn't be enough to it after waiting over two months for something new to happen.

[PowerOnyx]

I'd like to see the clip show as being the Rangers trying to remind T7 what has happened thus far, and who she is.

[Gr1s3L]

c'mon did we'll need to see a clip-show..!!it's really necessary.!!? :straightface: safe the last 4 episodes for a good way season finale..!! but althought it would be at the same time interesting too..!! OHH WTH..!! I just want to see the last episodes..!! Dammmnnn.. this long break..!!

:rpmred::rpmblue::rpmyellow::rpmgreen::rpmblack:

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

The show was precipitously close to going over budget when Eddie got fired, so anything to save time and money is a boon. Including clipshows.

[Beast King]

Then hopefully this clip show can progress the storyline.

[DoctorKosmic]

I would love if the clipshow actually progressed the storyline as well as save money, but isn't it ironic that the clipshow is in a situation of "Don't Blow Your Dough"?

[Beast King]

In what way?

[Digifiend]

I assume he meant literally, don't blow the budget.

[Super Jeff]

The only way I wuld except a clip show this season is to show a retrospect in the last 17 years of the show.

[Thrax]

The only way I wuld except a clip show this season is to show a retrospect in the last 17 years of the show.

well i think should be a awesome clip episode like happen in DT in Legacy of Power, but that as be cool if that happen and with that connection between all seasons

[Beast King]

I'll say it again, i doubt Disney is going to go all the way round the world just to pay all the actors.

[NoodleZ]

I'll say it again, i doubt Disney is going to go all the way round the world just to pay all the actors.
They could just use morphed footage and thus not have to pay them a dime

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

You don't seem to grasp what likeness rights are. They have to pay the actors for using their likenesses in a new episode, EVEN IN A FLASHBACK TO OLD FOOTAGE. That's how SAG works. Indeed, this is why Cole and Joel aren't shown in Legacy of Power. Neither Ricardo nor Keith gave their permission to appear in the episode.

[Hears All]

You don't seem to grasp what likeness rights are. They have to pay the actors for using their likenesses in a new episode, EVEN IN A FLASHBACK TO OLD FOOTAGE. That's how SAG works. Indeed, this is why Cole and Joel aren't shown in Legacy of Power. Neither Ricardo nor Keith gave their permission to appear in the episode.

Roughly how much does Disney have to pay their actors to be used in an episode of PR?

[Digifiend]

You don't seem to grasp what likeness rights are. They have to pay the actors for using their likenesses in a new episode, EVEN IN A FLASHBACK TO OLD FOOTAGE. That's how SAG works. Indeed, this is why Cole and Joel aren't shown in Legacy of Power. Neither Ricardo nor Keith gave their permission to appear in the episode.Does that apply to voice clips too? Because if so, there goes NoodleZ's suggestion of only using morphed footage!

[The 2nd Evil]

Looking back to the Jason, Zack, and Trini "soundalikes" and the voices in the Super Legends video game, yes, it applies to voice clips, too.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

I'm pretty confident it applies to using anything of the original performance.

Okay, Ryan's Ben 10. He's around here. Somebody ask him what the SAG guidelines are so I'm not mangling this.

[Fang RX]

^^^^First time I've seen Crayfish pass an explaination to someone else. *marks time and date* Kidding, Funaro.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

My ego has limits!

I mean, in theory.

[Fang RX]

Are you sure about that? I don't think it does. Funaro, it is my personal Theory that you are actually Venjix in disguise. lol

[DigiRanger]

Looking back to the Jason, Zack, and Trini "soundalikes" and the voices in the Super Legends video game, yes, it applies to voice clips, too.

They didn't have any original actor voices in Super Legends. Instead of Brett Stewart, they had Yuri Lowenthal as Omega Ranger, who was also the voice of Jason, Zedd was voiced by Steven Blum, and so on. Heck, Mack was voiced by Nolan North and Will was voiced by Darryl Kurylo, and the game came out when OO was still airing.

[DrBravo2]

I'm pretty confident it applies to using anything of the original performance.

Okay, Ryan's Ben 10. He's around here. Somebody ask him what the SAG guidelines are so I'm not mangling this.

Would a flashback to morphed footage with the voice over stripped out work, then?

[Digifiend]

I can't see why not, since we wouldn't see or hear the actors - they would in fact probably be the Sentai cast or stuntmen.

[Mugenhunt]

Would a flashback to morphed footage with the voice over stripped out work, then?

Possibly. I can't access the full SAG contracts from here, but they could probably get away with it in this case, since the morphed footage isn't the actor, and I'm pretty sure the stunties union isn't as harsh. But these things are complicated, and I could be wrong.

[Samurai Pink]

Would it be similar to Overdrive's clip show? I mean showing what has happened up until now.

[pr 4ever]

power rangers rpm vol 3 and 4 just added.
check out the merchandise page

[NoodleZ]

You don't seem to grasp what likeness rights are. They have to pay the actors for using their likenesses in a new episode, EVEN IN A FLASHBACK TO OLD FOOTAGE. That's how SAG works. Indeed, this is why Cole and Joel aren't shown in Legacy of Power. Neither Ricardo nor Keith gave their permission to appear in the episode.

No I don't Christopher Fuñaro

[Mugenhunt]

Well, the basic explanation is that you can't just use old footage of an actor in a new episode without paying them. Like if I tried to make a new episode of RPM that used scenes from Dino Thunder to make it look like Tommy was on the phone with Doctor K, I'd have to pay Jason David Frank. Because doing so is like trying to weasel out of paying him to actually film new stuff, and thus not allowed by the Screen Actors Guild's contracts.

To that end, though it varies by contract to contract, you can be in a position where you have to get permission from the actor to use footage of them in something other than what it was originally created for, and have to pay them for it as well. And because Power Rangers has had so many actors, it means that getting the paper work done to make it all work can be a hassle at times. Especially if paying for actors to appear in flashbacks takes up a large chunk of your budget.

Hopefully that makes some sense.

[NoodleZ]

It does but th3em appearing in morphed form doesn't impede anything with no voice clip either that's why im assuming they had tommy morphed in Worhole and voiced by Jeff Parazo

[Mugenhunt]

Right. It's not about the character, but the actor. Jason David Frank didn't appear in Wormhole, but Tommy did. So they didn't have to pay JDF at all.

So they can probably use footage of the stunt men in the suits, since those aren't the actors and not have to pay them anything, and not use any vocal clips from old episodes. Probably. There's always weird stuff involving contracts that comes up at the oddest times.

[Samurai Pink]

They have? I'll have to check that out pr 4ever.

Are the real actors, who are in RPM, actually in the ranger suits?

[BurgundyRanger]

They have? I'll have to check that out pr 4ever.

Are the real actors, who are in RPM, actually in the ranger suits?
Only for helmetless scenes.

[Beast King]

They have? I'll have to check that out pr 4ever.

Are the real actors, who are in RPM, actually in the ranger suits?Like Burgundy said, only in helmet less scenes, hey i was a kid once, i actually thought they were the ones in the Spandex lol.

[Samurai Pink]

So what you're saying is that it's not actually them in the ranger suits. I guess the actors do voice overs when in ranger form.

[TZMhero]

They never really have been in the suits. A lot of the footage is of course from Sentai (which doesn't have the actors in the suits either) So you are usually seeing Japanese stuntmen in the suits, our Kiwi stunties when it is being localized for American use. The actors merely play in the helmet-less shots, and the morphing sequences (although that can be different for each season). The actors do voice overs for the rangers after the morph has occurred, and that is all.

[BurgundyRanger]

So what you're saying is that it's not actually them in the ranger suits. I guess the actors do voice overs when in ranger form.
Been that way since Day 1.

How much money would I have if I had a nickel for every time an ADR director asked for a re-do of a mis-timed "Hyah!" ?

[Samurai Pink]

I see. It does make sense. I do notice the sentai scenes in each episode. I kind of know the difference between a sentai scene and an amercian scene.

[TZMhero]

Thats understandable Yellow, it's noticeable mostly when the picture quality switches or when the frame type changes. I'm glad the rangers are at least similarily shaped as their japanese counterparts, and it's not such a big difference as, say, Power Ranger Zeo and the girl's looked so much smaller in the Japanese footage.

[Mr. Blue]

Yellow...just like in previous PR seasons including Super Sentai, the stunts are in the suits are not the actual actors/actresses. We do see the actors/actresses helmetness.

[SirStack]

Yellow...just like in previous PR seasons including Super Sentai, the stunts are in the suits are not the actual actors/actresses.

Season 1 was a different story. At least for the first 40 eps, any time they did US footage of the Rangers morphed (which wasn't that common, and even when they did, they didn't fight, except for Green), it was the actors in the suits. But after that, when they got picked up for the remaining eps of season 1, they finally could afford to put stunties in the suits.

[Beast King]

Really? Where did you hear that?

[SirStack]

Really? Where did you hear that?

There are photos of the actors on set between takes in costume, with their helmets and other costume bits off. Those photos were taken during US morphed shots during season 1. And considering how every one of the actors' body sizes are an exact match in every US morphed shot in season (something they didn't even try to do season 2 onward), and considering how cheap Saban was when the show started, AND considering how Black Ranger was missing his middle finger when Morphed... I don't have to hear anything to know what is obvious to those with trained eyes.

[Digifiend]

lol, Walter's missing finger is a dead giveaway. The most obvious US shots of them morphed are the command centre scenes. So a screencap from such a scene would illustrate what you mean.

[Samurai Pink]

I know that they use stuntmen, and that the actual actors aren't in the ranger suits when morphed, how do you explain that one episode where Ziggy had to learn his teleportation power.

[Beast King]

For helmetless and suitless shots lol!

[Samurai Pink]

He had his helmet on. The only clothing he had on was his boxers.

[Mr. Yellow]

So what you're saying is that it's not actually them in the ranger suits. I guess the actors do voice overs when in ranger form.

Same way in Sentai and Kamen Rider for that matter.

[Samurai Pink]

Yeah I do notice that. Wait they do that sort of thing in Sentai?

[BurgundyRanger]

Stunt people in suits do 90% of the flippin' and kickin' you see in all these toku-style shows.

Actors just act.

[Samurai Pink]

Oh now I get it. That's what I saw in 'and action'

[Beast King]

Yep, and if you saw the stunt video released a few months ago, its a dead giveaway!

[Samurai Pink]

Stunt video?

[Beast King]

You haven't seen it? It was quite a big deal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b9nTmr1LkI

[Samurai Pink]

I see. It must have been released a few months ago on youtube. I never even knew or noticed it. I can't seem to watch it on here, guess I would have to see that on youtube. How that's quite a big deal?

[TZMhero]

It was a big deal because it showed snipets of things that hadn't yet occurred.

[Super BBC-America]

I forgot about Walter's missing figure. To this day I still have not noticed it. I just got done watch season one too!

[Reaper]

Walter's missing finger?

[terrierlee]

He's missing one finger on one hand. You have to look out for it.

[Mr. Blue]

Walter's missing finger?

Yep, missing one of his middle finger. Lost it in a childhood accident when he was young.

[Psychosilver]

How come we've never noticed that before?

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

Most of the fandom noticed it when the show first aired.

[Samurai Pink]

How come it's in japanese? What exactly does this have to do with the new upcoming episodes?

[Mugenhunt]

How come it's in japanese? What exactly does this have to do with the new upcoming episodes?

It's a clip from a Japanese news show, talking about the Japanese stunt men who work on Power Rangers. At the time the clip was released, we hadn't seen the episodes that the clip is showing the behind-the-scenes work on.

[Samurai Pink]

I see. It's begin to make sense to me now.

[Mr. Blue]

They are behind the scene clips Yellow...just like the RPM episode we saw.

[Samurai Pink]

Now I get it. What else can we talk about on this thread since we won't know the episode titles until Saturday.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

I want to bash my head into the desk as hard as I can.

Why do you not understand that what you do DISCOURAGES people from wanting to participate in these threads? Conversations form organically and they're doing fine. Then suddenly you pop up and... Can a moderator please explain this to her for me? I feel like it's not going to mean anything coming from anyone else.

[Samurai Pink]

I know I know. I just want to keep the topic of this thread going.

[The 2nd Evil]

Well, we could talk about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9h1JC7SIaY

[Mugenhunt]

Wait, she's WHAT?! But I thought that Summer was going to be revealed as Dillon's sister! What a shocking surprise!

[Samurai Pink]

That was funny! Love the sound effect at the end.

[Speedbreaker]

Wait, she's WHAT?! But I thought that Summer was going to be revealed as Dillon's sister! What a shocking surprise!
Damn, I had all my money on them pulling a Dilandau and revealing that Ziggy is Dillon's sister after a sex-change because the Scorpion Cartel follows a strict "NO GURLZ ALLOWED" policy.

[Mugenhunt]

Ziggy as Dilandeau... OW. BRAIN HURTS.

[Samurai Pink]

Say What?!

[Mugenhunt]

Say What?!

Dilandau is from the anime, The Vision of Escaflowne. He's an insane villain who we spend most of the series wishing would die. Near the end we learn that he's actually the long lost sister of one of the heroes, who had been turned into a man through weird science experiments and driven insane.

We're joking around.

[Samurai Pink]

Ok. My heart can't take much more. lol

[terrierlee]

Woah. I so did not see that coming! And here I thought Gem, Gemma, and Summer would turn out to be Dillon's long lost siblings.

...Of course, if this really happened, then Dillon/Summer would be incest.

... O:!

(I know this is silly, but I can't help but put Go-on jokes into RPM.)

[Samurai Pink]

I see what you mean. Aren't Gem and Gemma siblings?

[Mr. White]

I see what you mean. Aren't Gem and Gemma siblings?

Please tell me your joking:straightface:

[terrierlee]

Well of course they are, Yellow. But I wasn't referring to them being related to each other, but to Dillon.

...Nevermind. The joke's ruined.

[Samurai Pink]

It wasn't a joke it was a question. Sorry if I ruin the joke. I was just wondering since the two of them seem to be very close. That and Gem never does anything without Gemma.

[Digifiend]

Well, they're not just siblings, they're twins.

[Samurai Pink]

No wonder they look the same. :)

[Mr. Blue]

Yellow, we have known about this since before RPM started that they were going to be twin brother and sister. The info about the actor and actress playing them would be twins was posted in the first or 2nd RPM thread back in February before the show started. How we know that was by their characters' name...Gem and Gemma. We pretty much figured they would be twins.

[Reaper]

Plus, the way they finish each others sentences. Twins are known to do that too

[Samurai Pink]

Yeah I did notice that. I knew before hand. It is interesting to have twins as rangers. I mean we've had siblings that were rangers in the past. Like Vida and Maddie and Blake and Hunter.

[Digifiend]

Andros and Karone too, albeit in different seasons. Also Leo and Mike. Lol, those two examples are both from the same season, Lost Galaxy!

I'm not sure Blake and Hunter really count, since they're adopted and not really brothers at all.

[Samurai Pink]

Well they treated each other like brothers.

[pr 4ever]

Andros and Karone too, albeit in different seasons. Also Leo and Mike. Lol, those two examples are both from the same season, Lost Galaxy!

I'm not sure Blake and Hunter really count, since they're adopted and not really brothers at all.

dana and ryan also :titanium::pinklightspeed:

[Samurai Pink]

Oh I forgot about them. Also Dillon and Tenaya.

[Digifiend]

That doesn't count, because Tenaya isn't a Ranger.

[TZMhero]

in my fanz fix she is!

[BurgundyRanger]

OK. It's one of those nights at work where we're getting out a bit early, so .....

HERE ARE THE TITLES!

#29 - Noon, Dec. 19 - If Venjix Won

#30 - 12:30, Dec. 19 - End Game

[Speedbreaker]

These are the first of four episodes, yes? So... End Game is actually the title of the penultimate episode. Huh. Usually it's like the default cliche "finale" title.

[Beast King]

Those are some unique titles.

[Digifiend]

End Game was the finale episode title of Star Trek Voyager, which proves your point I think, Speedbreaker. More then likely, it's going to have a cliffhanger ending leading into a two-part finale (which for all intents and purposes, may as well be an hour long episode, since it's airing as a double bill anyway).

[PowerOnyx]

It'd be a nice twist if Tenaya and Dillon aren't related at all and those memories are fake as well.

[Samurai Pink]

That could be a posibility. I wonder what's going to happen to Dillon once Venjix activates all of the hybrids?

[AoBlue]

^^ Ranger Black Gone Bad. LoL.

[Thrax]

That could be a posibility. I wonder what's going to happen to Dillon once Venjix activates all of the hybrids?

i think maybe Venjix always want Dillon inside of Corinth to make is final move, Dillon possible as the most powerfull weapon of Venjix have

[PowerOnyx]

i think maybe Venjix always want Dillon inside of Corinth to make is final move, Dillon possible as the most powerfull weapon of Venjix have

I like that idea.

[Samurai Pink]

Well he does have Venjix hardware in his body.

[Reaper]

I reckon Dillon will BECOME Venjix. By that i mean that the Virus inside him is a Venjix Copy. SO, maybe in Ep 30, the Venjix we know now will be destroyed, then the Copy in Dillon will activate, causing Dillon to become the bad guy

[PowerOnyx]

^YESS!!! I hope that happens.

[Thrax]

I reckon Dillon will BECOME Venjix. By that i mean that the Virus inside him is a Venjix Copy. SO, maybe in Ep 30, the Venjix we know now will be destroyed, then the Copy in Dillon will activate, causing Dillon to become the bad guy

The final villan will became a evil Power ranger

[Reaper]

Exactly :D BUT, will Dillon survive?

[Thrax]

Exactly :D BUT, will Dillon survive?

maybe but, i think we have to wait to see

[PowerOnyx]

I want to see Venjix upgrade himself as the Daishogun zord.

[Samurai Pink]

Dillon being the bad guy? Now that's what I want to see.

[Thrax]

29. If Venjix Won

well if this episode the rangers will see the future of the planet if Venjix won, that as a good question about this, maybe TF as come to fight Venjix in the present when Venjix conquer the planet is the first strikes aganst the world armys and others rangers teams, maybe anothers menbers of TF have to come to the present and fight along side of the rangers

[Digifiend]

Not a chance - TF is eight years old and was filmed in the US, RPM was filmed in New Zealand.

[Thrax]

Not a chance - TF is eight years old and was filmed in the US, RPM was filmed in New Zealand.

well i as speak is more about the time of Venjix first strikes begins

[QuasarTiger]

Exactly :D BUT, will Dillon survive?

He'll survive. I find it very unlikely that he'll be killed off.

[Thrax]

Well possible Venjix want Dillon inside of Corinth for activate the others hybrits using Dillon

[terrierlee]

Maybe they'll do something lame like using Summer's Love For Dillon to revive him or something if he "dies".

[QuasarTiger]

Maybe they'll do something lame like using Summer's Love For Dillon to revive him or something if he "dies".

They did kill Mack off and resurrected him into a human with the Corona Aurora. So that's a possibility there.

[Thrax]

They did kill Mack off and resurrected him into a human with the Corona Aurora. So they could kill Dillon off temporarily and Summer revives him the love she has for Dillon.

well i think should be good to see something like that, but something like that happen is like happen in PROO with Mack, maybe they will something very diferent if Dillon die, but we have to wait to see what happen to Dillon, because will happen is the virus will take over of Dillon

[Reaper]

Tbh, they could kill him off. It's not like he'll be back next Season for a team up lol. And he could go out as a hero, somehow sacrificing himself so the others survive?

[QuasarTiger]

well i think should be good to see something like that, but something like that happen is like happen in PROO with Mack, maybe they will something very diferent if Dillon die, but we have to wait to see what happen to Dillon, because will happen is the virus will take over of Dillon

I'm not denying that the virus will take over him. I'm just not holding my breath into believing they'll kill him off and keep him dead. If it that did happen. It would be a very new take on Power Rangers. Of course, we've had the Magna Defender sacrifice himself and died. But, the writers of Disney hasn't really pulled any of that during Disney's ownership.


Tbh, they could kill him off. It's not like he'll be back next Season for a team up lol. And he could go out as a hero, somehow sacrificing himself so the others survive?

I just don't see it happening. Maybe in fan fiction. Of course he won't be back next season. But, that doesn't mean they'll kill him off just because of that. I guess we'll just have to find out.

I wouldn't mind seeing something new like that in Disney era myself. So it's nothing wrong with dreaming. :)

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

Yeah, man. Making Dillon be the big bad the entire time and then killing him in the final episode? God, you'd get unceremoniously fired for something like that...

[Thrax]

if Dillon try to face Venjix alone is just to try to save Tenaya of Venjix control !!

[QuasarTiger]

God, you'd get unceremoniously fired for something like that...

Kalish definitely made it seem that way, for all the chances he had to kill off some characters. He never did. So apparently, it must be a no no to kill off characters who appear human. If Dillon does end up surviving. It most definitely must be a no no, since Bruce has nothing to do with the show now. So only time will tell.

[Mugenhunt]

I'll give you a hint, he wasn't talking about Kalish.

(And man Chris, whatever happened to "I'll won't mention THAT until after the finale?")

[QuasarTiger]

I'll give you a hint, he wasn't talking about Kalish.

(And man Chris, whatever happened to "I'll won't mention THAT until after the finale?")

I know he wasn't talking about Kalish. I was only using him as an example. I didn't know there was a rule against talking about stuff until after the finale. I apologize.

[Mugenhunt]

Sorry, that bit in parenthesis was aimed at Cmdr Crayfish, aka Chris Funaro. He's got behind the scenes information that he was originally not going to leak until the finale, but has apparently changed his mind and is now dropping hints left and right. You are absolutely in the right, and did nothing wrong. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

Back on topic... At the end of the day, PR is a Disney Show. You don't kill off heroes. (At least not permanently.) Kalish knew what he was doing.

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

Tyler let it leak on RC in September despite my telling him to delete that segument and I've seen people mentioning it ever since... Screw it. I'll be oblique, but the masquerade is dissolved. :-(

[Digifiend]

:oh: Leaked on RangerCast? Jeez, it's virtually impossible to avoid spoilers even before a show is broadcast these days! Which is why I avoid that, and any other similar services for other shows. :sad:

[Rev Cmdr Crayfish]

The moral: Tyler sucks.

[PRangerX]

:oh: Leaked on RangerCast? Jeez, it's virtually impossible to avoid spoilers even before a show is broadcast these days! Which is why I avoid that, and any other similar services for other shows. :sad:

They we're spoilers for what the finalie would have been under Eddie I believe. I don't think they spoiled Judd's finalie. But I could be wrong.

[Digifiend]

You don't know how much Judd changed though - so I'm avoiding RC until I've seen all the episodes - i.e. until next year.

[pr 4ever]

when were there spoilers on RC? and where

[Mugenhunt]

They we're spoilers for what the finalie would have been under Eddie I believe. I don't think they spoiled Judd's finalie. But I could be wrong.

Yeah. Apparently Judd's finale is very different, which given the spoilers for Eddie's, had better be the case.

[The 2nd Evil]

Yes, I would also like a finale that doesn't suck.

[Thrax]

well Venjix when goes to anothers robots body form he always use the cable but for the ultimate robot form Venjix dont use the cable

[Bighead]

Yeah, man. Making Dillon be the big bad the entire time and then killing him in the final episode? God, you'd get unceremoniously fired for something like that...

Oh my GOD.

...Bricks have just been, err, dropped.

Wow.

[Tommy Lawson]

Yeah, man. Making Dillon be the big bad the entire time and then killing him in the final episode? God, you'd get unceremoniously fired for something like that...


Oh my GOD.

...Bricks have just been, err, dropped.

Wow.

Based on that information, Eddie Guzelian's plans for the finale remind me of the plot from two video games - Capcom's Mega Man X5 (http://www.mmhp.net/GameHints/MMX5.html) and Mega Man X8 (http://www.mmhp.net/GameHints/MMX8.html). Major spoilers from both games follow.

While there are other X games of course, those two in particular have themes similar to what is seen in RPM.

In Mega Man X5, Sigma loses to X and Zero on purpose at the beginning to spread the Sigma virus across Earth, sending it into a panic. Meanwhile, Zero continues to wonder why he gets stronger with the spread of the virus, instead of weaker. This proposed RPM ending does have some resemblance to the way X5 ends, since X and Zero fight each other, and ultimately, Zero dies in all endings of the game. It was supposed to be the final game in the X series, but then Capcom decided to make Mega Man X6.

Mega Man X8 I feel can be used to more easily differentiate the behavior of Venjix in RPM. In Mega Man X8, new generations of Reploids can copy abilities of other Reploids, and are believed to be immune from the Maverick effects of the Sigma virus, so it is theorized they could copy Sigma with no problems. However, as the game progresses, it us shown that rather than being controlled like puppets (the behavior caused by the Sigma virus in the past), these Reploids start to believe that they are Sigma himself, and act that way as well. Note that this is in strong opposition to Venjix's monsters, who largely don't talk, and certainly don't believe they are Venjix.

Dillon's proposed role in Eddie Guzelian's finale reminds me of Lumine from Mega Man X8 - someone we think is a good guy, only to turn the tables at the end.

[NoodleZ]

I want to see Venjix upgrade himself as the Daishogun zord.
Venjix puts himself in the HOMZ and it starts smashing buildings and then reverts back due to K removing him

[theultamitezeo]

Venjix puts himself in the HOMZ and it starts smashing buildings and then reverts back due to K removing him

tht would be freaking tight man i would crap my self if that happens

[Samurai Pink]

Venjix already has a new form (Yogopapa). Based on these ideas, I'm sure that whoever is in charge of the last two episodes will come up with awesome finale. I hope so.

[Thrax]

Venjix already has a new form (Yogopapa). Based on these ideas, I'm sure that whoever is in charge of the last two episodes will come up with awesome finale. I hope so.

Venjix in this state have a big power and will be very dificult for the rangers battle aganst him !!

[malfion]

Yes, I would also like a finale that doesn't suck.

I kinda liked the leaked finale.

The idea of ranger vs ranger excites me....especially unmorphed/helmetless. Its just amazing to see.

Now I'm afraid that we'll get a "villain is defeated, city is in ruins, give up your powers now/ranger powers destroyed and lets rebuild the city and live happily ever after until TF or whatever unwritten events will be created in that time frame".....

Dammit Disney, just say Venjix IS THE FR Venjix and I'll happily settle for the revised ending. Or give me a plot twist...or something new.

[pr 4ever]

I kinda liked the leaked finale

what is this leaked finale that u are talking about? when was it leaked n where?

[O.92]

I kinda liked the leaked finale.

Agreed. I'll have to wait to see what Judd does, but if what I understand is Eddie's ending, it sounded good. Upsetting, but good. I actually want something that's not 100% happy. I'm still on board for Tenaya dying.

[tkdnmb]

what is this leaked finale that u are talking about? when was it leaked n where?

i wanna see it too

[Mugenhunt]

what is this leaked finale that u are talking about? when was it leaked n where?

Chris Funaro (aka Cmdr Crayfish) has been dropping hints about what the original planned ending for RPM entailed, which strongly suggest that
The ending that Eddie Guzelian had in mind was going to have Dillon become the final host for Venjix, leaving the other Rangers forced to kill him in order to save humanity. It has since been replaced by a new ending by Judd Lynn, of which we have no idea about the content.

Mind you, that's just a rumor at this point. It makes sense, and he's got sources that could give him said information, but it's still unconfirmed. I believe in it though.

[pr 4ever]

omg that sounds so awesome....I really wish Eddie would've stayed...I've always wanted something like that to happen :(

[RangerGirl09]

Chris Funaro (aka Cmdr Crayfish) has been dropping hints about what the original planned ending for RPM entailed, which strongly suggest that
The ending that Eddie Guzelian had in mind was going to have Dillon become the final host for Venjix, leaving the other Rangers forced to kill him in order to save humanity. It has since been replaced by a new ending by Judd Lynn, of which we have no idea about the content.

Mind you, that's just a rumor at this point. It makes sense, and he's got sources that could give him said information, but it's still unconfirmed. I believe in it though.

It would have sucked if they had killed Dillon off in the finale. I would have been crying in my bed for days if they did. Thank God they changed it.

[O.92]

It would have sucked if they had killed Dillon off in the finale. I would have been crying in my bed for days if they did. Thank God they changed it.

How can you say that when you don't know the other result yet? Maybe it's worse.

Although I'd say that minus the part with Corinth being destroyed, malfion may have hit it on the head, or gotten very close to it. The ending will most likely be happy.

[PowerOnyx]

Since when did this become the RPM spoiler thread?
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I swore this was the correct one.
http://www.rangercrew.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11608&page=90

[Digifiend]

Well this doesn't count, since it's a spoiler for EDDIE'S finale, not the one we'll actually be seeing.

[Hears All]

I like Eddie's ending, has a very dark feel to it