Morphylogeny: The PR footage guide [Archive]

SirStack

01-09-2010, 02:39 PM

I really need to pay more attention ... Plus I was only asking as Chris mentioned you were working on this for roughly the past two years.

"Working on", as in gathering materials and figuring out how to do it all, yes. But actually working on it? No. Though I did spend a good deal of time last year working on the Pilot, off and on. But since I know what I'm aiming for now and how to write it out, the first episode's gone a lot quicker. I could conceivably do an episode a week.

RatherOddRanger

01-09-2010, 02:56 PM

"Working on", as in gathering materials and figuring out how to do it all, yes. But actually working on it? No. Though I did spend a good deal of time last year working on the Pilot, off and on. But since I know what I'm aiming for now and how to write it out, the first episode's gone a lot quicker. I could conceivably do an episode a week.

But I'm guessing that would cut into a lot of your free time.

SirStack

01-09-2010, 03:18 PM

But I'm guessing that would cut into a lot of your free time.

Yeah, but so does everything PR related. At least I'm enjoying most of it (I found a single frame shot of the Battle Bikes in DOTD, so that was a fun find).

RatherOddRanger

01-09-2010, 03:23 PM

Yeah, but so does everything PR related. At least I'm enjoying most of it (I found a single frame shot of the Battle Bikes in DOTD, so that was a fun find).

Really? Where is it?

SirStack

01-09-2010, 04:55 PM

Really? Where is it?

Right after the team posing before summoning their Zords to fight giant Goldar.

RatherOddRanger

01-10-2010, 06:18 AM

Right after the team posing before summoning their Zords to fight giant Goldar.

I'm going to have to check this now. I do remember a episode in season 1 where we could clearly see the bikes in the background.

SirStack

01-12-2010, 10:18 AM

I'm goign to have to check this now. I do remember a episode in season 1 where we coudl clearly see the bikes in the background.

Yeah, "Calamity Kimberly". Rov's FANON on it is a bit legendary.

As for Morphylogeny, I'm still working on the aired DOTD. I've decided to do away with the time codes, since nobody needs them. Plus they vary from source to source to the point they're only useful to those who work from the original masters for something directly consistent. But the layout will be pretty much the same, and I'll be covering all footage recycling and things like that, right down to the Zordon and Alpha stuff, and exterior shots.

Mr. Blue

01-12-2010, 10:25 AM

That is a great site SirStack!

Digifiend

01-12-2010, 06:45 PM

I see Zack's name spelling got changed in the final version. It says Zach in the pilot intro. Is there a video of it anywhere (those screenshots came from somewhere, lol)? It wasn't included in the Lost Episode special. Great work Sir! :D

SirStack

01-13-2010, 12:51 AM

Digifiend

01-13-2010, 04:53 AM

Thanks. Weird that all the cast credits are before the song lyrics start, and that producer credits are outright absent.

SirStack

01-13-2010, 11:21 AM

Thanks. Weird that all the cast credits are before the song lyrics start, and that producer credits are outright absent.

I know of no copies that have end credits to them at all. They must not have bothered since they knew it was just a test run anyway (had they gone to series using it, they would've had to extend the episode).

Digifiend

01-14-2010, 12:54 PM

I don't mean the end credits - there are no producer credits in the opening titles. The final titles have some on the Megazord footage.

SirStack

01-14-2010, 04:50 PM

I don't mean the end credits - there are no producer credits in the opening titles. The final titles have some on the Megazord footage.

Yes, I know that. I was pointing out the fact they don't credit anyone on the crew. Not the writer, not the director, not even Haim & Shuki at the end. It never got far enough to need the credits added to the opening, nor the end credits, because by that point they were already planning changes to everything.

SirStack

01-18-2010, 12:34 AM

Site's been updated with the regular version of "Day of the Dumpster".

Digifiend

01-18-2010, 06:51 AM

Wow! It's amazing to see just how many episodes were culled to make Day of the Dumpster.

SirStack

01-22-2010, 01:33 AM

Now updated with "High Five". Think it was just a simple adaptation of Zyuranger #2? Are you in for a surprise!

Mr. CD

01-22-2010, 12:10 PM

You know, I always suspected there might have been some villain scenes from Zyu that were eight original or were shot specifically for PRs. Thank for confirming my suspecition.

SirStack

01-26-2010, 01:40 AM

Now updated with "Teamwork". Proof that any evil can be overcome when footage from 14 different Zyuranger episodes works together!

Digifiend

01-26-2010, 04:27 AM

I was wondering why Kim's zord summon wasn't shown like the others. A Zyuranger scene with a little boy. Pretty obviously couldn't use that. Thanks. :)

SirStack

01-31-2010, 01:38 PM

Now updated with "A Pressing Engagement". Or, the time Jason tried to beat Bulk's record of pressing 17 different Zyu episodes into one PR ep by pressing 18 into this one.

Kadam1991

02-01-2010, 07:57 AM

The way they used the footage reminds me of Rovang's Take Flight and the way he mix and matched footage from all different episdoes

Digifiend

02-01-2010, 09:23 AM

Rovang presumably knew how the PR episodes were constructed, and did likewise when writing the Jetman adaptation fanfic.

SirStack

02-04-2010, 02:16 PM

Now updated with "Different Drum". The least manic episode in terms of footage use yet.

SirStack

02-05-2010, 12:01 PM

Now updated with "Food Fight". Get the full footage recipe for this classic episode!

SirStack

02-07-2010, 05:28 PM

Now updated with "Big Sisters". Chunky Chicken's 19 Zyu eps worth of secret herbs and spices revealed.

SirStack

02-08-2010, 10:39 PM

Now updated with "Switching Places". Billy invented a device that can put 11 Zyuranger eps into one PR ep!

Digifiend

02-09-2010, 02:25 AM

Wow SirStack, these updates are coming thick and fast! :D

SirStack

02-10-2010, 02:21 AM

Now updated with "I, Eye Guy". A whole lot of eyes, not a lot of Zyu eps!

SirStack

02-13-2010, 01:59 AM

"Foul Play in the Sky" is now up, just in time for the Reversioning. A whole ep entirely devoid of any specially shot Zyu1.5 footage!

Digifiend

02-13-2010, 08:50 AM

I guess you'll overtake the reversioning when you do the next update then. Still you do have more episodes to add than Disney plans to air this year, lol. :)

SirStack

02-15-2010, 02:41 AM

Now updated with "For Whom The Bell Trolls". Mister Ticklesneezer has 10 different Zyuranger episodes in his goody bottles!

SirStack

02-16-2010, 01:55 PM

Now updated with "Happy Birthday, Zack". Instead of 12 candles, it's 12 different Zyu eps.

TZMhero

02-18-2010, 03:56 PM

Great stuff SirStack! I love some of the little comments, such as the Mastadon having 'Happy Feet'

SirStack

02-18-2010, 04:23 PM

Great stuff SirStack! I love some of the little comments, such as the Mastadon having 'Happy Feet'

Thanks for noticing.

Speaking of notices, wasn't aware this moved! Had to hunt it down.

Anyway, "No Clowning Around" is now up. I clown you not.

Digifiend

02-19-2010, 11:40 AM

FD should've put an announcement up about this new sub-forum. But he didn't, tsk. (edit: he has now, a day late)

Churly

02-20-2010, 10:25 AM

This is so awesome! SirStack, please keep this project alive! I really loved the Pilot page, didn't know the Pilot had its own opening...

Digifiend

02-20-2010, 11:52 AM

Wanna watch the video version?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OKqoqz785g

SirStack

02-21-2010, 11:34 AM

Now updated with "Out of Control", aka "Green with Evil, Part I". It's not easy being green.

Churly

02-21-2010, 11:37 AM

The "Zyu Original Footage" is the so-called "Zyu1.5" right?

Guess that's gonna be the shot of Goldar holding the Green Candle while at Rita's palace...

SirStack

02-21-2010, 11:38 AM

The "Zyu Original Footage" is the so-called "Zyu1.5" right?

Yes.

Guess that's gonna be the shot of Goldar holding the Green Candle while at Rita's palace...

No, that was outright US footage. All the stuff of Goldar on his little balcony was done in the states well after the fact.

Charles RB

02-21-2010, 11:49 AM

Anyway, "No Clowning Around" is now up. I clown you not.

Huh. Wonder why they added the Megazord in?

SirStack

02-21-2010, 11:55 AM

Huh. Wonder why they added the Megazord in?

Probably the same reason they put it in "Teamwork", to sell the toy better (though that doesn't explain why they didn't bother with "High Five").

Churly

02-21-2010, 12:29 PM

What about Goldar in Cyclopsis? It even looks exactly the same as what Kai rode in.

SirStack

02-21-2010, 03:09 PM

What about Goldar in Cyclopsis? It even looks exactly the same as what Kai rode in.

It was US footage.

GokaiGold

02-21-2010, 04:02 PM

it's awesome site, SirStack!

but, do you still have your PR Spoliers site? i have not seen that site for a while

SirStack

02-21-2010, 04:03 PM

it's awesome site, SirStack!

but, do you still have your PR Spoliers site? i have not seen that site for a while

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/prsw/default.htm

There it is, warts and all.

GokaiGold

02-21-2010, 04:44 PM

thanks for the link! :D

SirStack

02-27-2010, 01:16 AM

Now updated with "Green With Evil, Part II", or "Jason's Battle". Despite being one of the lightest eps in terms of footage use, it surely uses a wide variety of Zyu eps!

Churly

02-27-2010, 09:58 AM

Was the "Zyu1.5" Footage shot on Film (like Sentai) or Video (like MMPR American Footage)?

SirStack

02-27-2010, 12:47 PM

Was the "Zyu1.5" Footage shot on Film (like Sentai) or Video (like MMPR American Footage)?

It looks like film, just master sourced instead of several generations down like the stuff taken from Zyu eps. Which is why it's all clearer than the other Sentai footage, yet doesn't look like the MMPR stuff.

SirStack

02-28-2010, 04:08 AM

Now updated with "Green with Evil, Part III" aka "The Rescue". With Zyu1.5 Scorpina footage!

Digifiend

02-28-2010, 06:18 AM

Why did the international version use the revised opening when the original broadcast version didn't? I think the US way was the right one, because the new intro was a spoiler.

Rev Cmdr Crayfish

02-28-2010, 06:51 AM

Hell, part five using the modified opening still constituted a spoiler. Not that anyone DOUBTED the end result of the storyline...

Digifiend

02-28-2010, 06:57 AM

Actually by spoiler I was referring to Dragonzord, not Tommy turning good. And the Today on Power Rangers segment on part 5 would've given that away anyway.

Rev Cmdr Crayfish

02-28-2010, 07:12 AM

Well, the original ad campaign blew Dragonzord.

Churly

02-28-2010, 08:43 AM

What? How exactly does Dragonzord being in the intro count as a spoiler? A new character is being introduced like the next episode. Barely a spoiler, if any.

Anyway, glad to see GWE Part 3 is already out. You're really cranking at this Stack.

When the time comes, will be you doing this for the Zyu2 episodes? I know it'll be extremely tricky but will you still try?

Churly

02-28-2010, 12:47 PM

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/101/DOTD079.JPG?height=150&width=200

Having just seen the corresponding Zyu episode, I am appalled to see it was just Bukkbakk gagging at a Butterfly escaping from his mouth.

Digifiend

02-28-2010, 01:19 PM

What? How exactly does Dragonzord being in the intro count as a spoiler? A new character is being introduced like the next episode. Barely a spoiler, if any.He didn't have it yet, that's why. He only got it in part 5. It's like watching the first episode of Heroes and knowing that Peter Petrelli's power is not the ability to fly.

SirStack

02-28-2010, 01:39 PM

Actually by spoiler I was referring to Dragonzord, not Tommy turning good. And the Today on Power Rangers segment on part 5 would've given that away anyway.

There wasn't a "today on" for part 5, just a "previously on" covering part 4. But there WAS a "next time on" at the end of part 4 on its first airing only (as was the case for all episodes back in MMPR). So that would've spoiled it, certainly.

Well, the original ad campaign blew Dragonzord.

You mean this one?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH8gfzb-WI0

(notice the promo-exclusive shot of Green with a Blade Blaster holster)

When the time comes, will be you doing this for the Zyu2 episodes? I know it'll be extremely tricky but will you still try?

No more tricky than the 1.5 stuff has been (though Grnrngr has been helpful in pointing out when alternate takes are being used). But yes, that's one of the things I'm most looking forward to determining precisely once and for all what's Zyu2 and what's just old Zyu stuff. I could easily keep doing this until Zeo (which tended to recycle a lot of Machine Empire footage from various Oh eps, at least). Turbo onward things get a lot more cut and dried with adapting episodes mainly on a one-to-one basis. But yeah, I plan on doing them all until it appears the eps don't need analyzing like this. I'll do all the specials on the way, too. Maybe even the music videos!

And I'm certainly considering doing the same for VR Troopers (even though most of the fan copies of the show are like 9th generation or edited).

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/101/DOTD079.JPG?height=150&width=200

Having just seen the corresponding Zyu episode, I am appalled to see it was just Bukkbakk gagging at a Butterfly escaping from his mouth.

The PR editors love that shot. Anytime they need Squatt to talk, they cut it in. I remember first noticing it specifically when it was used in "Lord Zedd's Monster Heads", which came out during season 3!

Churly

02-28-2010, 02:45 PM

... I have never heard of that episode. Are you sure you're not talking about "Zedd's Monster Bash?"

bobtherandomguy

02-28-2010, 03:30 PM

it was a video tape, I remember I had a copy. Zedd and Goldar were throwing a party, Rito wasn't there yet but Rita was mentioned as Zedd's wife

SirStack

02-28-2010, 06:40 PM

... I have never heard of that episode. Are you sure you're not talking about "Zedd's Monster Bash?"

As Bob said, it was a direct to video release. It was basically a clipshow with a new narrative via voice overs by Axelrod & Sorich as Zedd & Squatt.

Churly

03-02-2010, 09:31 PM

Stack, is it really fair to point out what's the Megazord Cockpit & the Dragonzord Battle Mode Cockpit in the Notes? They made that same mistake in Zyuranger iirc.

SirStack

03-02-2010, 09:32 PM

Stack, is it really fair to point out what's the Megazord Cockpit & the Dragonzord Battle Mode Cockpit in the Notes? They made that same mistake in Zyuranger iirc.

So far the mistakes have all been on the part of PR's editors. The sources they're getting them from aren't mistaken uses, either.

SirStack

03-03-2010, 12:30 AM

Now updated with "Green with Evil 4" aka "Eclipsing Megazord". It takes footage from 14 different Zyu eps to block out the sun.

Digifiend

03-03-2010, 06:08 AM

Couple of things to fix - on the bus on edge of cliff shot just before the zord summoning, you've referred to the bus as a vehcile. Also as Rita makes Tommy grow: "Slow zoom out as Rita readies wand and flings it int othe air while screaming."

I see a Zyu01 shot replaced a scene due to a Nissan logo - an edit forced by product placement, who'd have thought it? ;)

You said this was one of the first attempts at US/Sentai footage blending, but why was this scene changed?
http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/117/BLADE1.JPGhttp://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/117/BLADE2.JPG

Churly

03-03-2010, 08:45 AM

That scene was obviously changed to do away with the visible Battle Bikes.

Why is Rita's bike called "The Flying Penny?"

Digifiend

03-03-2010, 09:02 AM

It's a Penny Farthing. The name comes from two pre-decimal British coins.

SirStack

03-03-2010, 02:27 PM

Couple of things to fix - on the bus on edge of cliff shot just before the zord summoning, you've referred to the bus as a vehcile. Also as Rita makes Tommy grow: "Slow zoom out as Rita readies wand and flings it int othe air while screaming."

Thanks. Typos are a sign of how fast I'm rushing through these.

That scene was obviously changed to do away with the visible Battle Bikes.

All of the shots of the Rangers were replaced by US stuff due to those bikes. And Barza. They switched it to the beach in US instead of the quarry. There's an interesting US shot from up and behind of Rita and Scorpina facing the Rangers. The third US Rita shot, and the first US Scorpina one (and the only for her until "Goldar's Vice-Versa"). They went to all that trouble of getting the costumes out, putting them on actors, and filming them from behind for a shot of all of maybe a few seconds. Goes to show how by the time of GWE, they were really trying to make this show work on its own.

It's a Penny Farthing. The name comes from two pre-decimal British coins.

We're apparently supposed to think the first widespread form of the bicycle was in use 10,000 years ago (or worse, a bajillion years ago in Zyu). Or maybe it's a The Prisoner reference!

Digifiend

03-03-2010, 06:10 PM

Wouldn't it have been easier just to officially introduce the Battle Bikes? They were in the toyline after all, and it would've saved them from having to do some of the editing.

SirStack

03-03-2010, 06:19 PM

Wouldn't it have been easier just to officially introduce the Battle Bikes? They were in the toyline after all, and it would've saved them from having to do some of the editing.

Not enough morphed Bike use footage (they rode them in costume in Zyu maybe two or three times I can recall). And they were too cheap at the time to make US replicas of the bikes (yet they paid to have a mock-up of the Radbug made by the guy who did the original Batmobile, go figure) and shoot new footage with them (they rarely did any morphed footage at all at this point as it was, using the bikes would require much more).

Digifiend

03-03-2010, 07:04 PM

Ah, kind of catch 22 then. No win situation.

Churly

03-03-2010, 09:57 PM

I had a coloring book which featured the Battle Bikes, and couldn't understand why I've never seen them before. That is until I saw "Calamity Kim." In that scene it was pretty unavoidable to cut them out.

bobtherandomguy

03-03-2010, 09:59 PM

I wonder why they didn't bother incorporating them into Zyu2, then officially introduce them

Churly

03-04-2010, 05:37 AM

Saban didn't request them?

Digifiend

03-04-2010, 05:48 AM

Saban didn't request replacement Megazord and Ultrazord formation sequences or Tyrannosaurus and Dragonzord summoning footage (where they both walk through a field instead of coming from their usual fire/water based hiding places) either, and they still got it. Saban's only stipulations were that the green and pink rangers be in love (the Guitardo battle's a good example of that) and blue's the smart one.

KCJ506

03-04-2010, 01:38 PM

Are you going by order of the Zyuranger eps? Because I noticed you skipped Power Rangers Punks, Love Peace and Woe, and Dark Warrior.

SirStack

03-04-2010, 02:12 PM

Are you going by order of the Zyuranger eps? Because I noticed you skipped Power Rangers Punks, Love Peace and Woe, and Dark Warrior.

Production order. Since that's how the show was produced, and this looks into a production aspect.

Digifiend

03-04-2010, 06:29 PM

You might notice KCJ that it's also the same order the reversioned episodes are being shown in. :)

SirStack

03-05-2010, 11:44 PM

Updated with "Green with Evil 5" aka "Breaking the Spell". NO WAY!

Digifiend

03-06-2010, 12:11 PM

I'm not surprised you decided not to include Zordon's shots in future. They all look the same anyway, so apart from the laugh used when Tommy got his White Ranger powers, I'm not sure there's any more new scenes of him until Zeo anyway.

"Dragonzord in Fighting Mode's while body" - whole body I assume?

With the shot of Rita on the TV, they should've used a shot of her on Earth rather than the moon palace. Considering such a scene was in the first episode, there's really no excuse for that slip-up.

SirStack

03-06-2010, 12:50 PM

With the shot of Rita on the TV, they should've used a shot of her on Earth rather than the moon palace. Considering such a scene was in the first episode, there's really no excuse for that slip-up.

It's only there because they seem to have been running unedited Zyu20 footage on the Juice Bar monitor. That shot comes directly before the Goldar shot. They shouldn't have included it at all, but there ya go.

Churly

03-06-2010, 06:36 PM

Btw Digifiend, there will be a new shot of Zordon in Mutiny Part 3, with him mocking the imprisoned Rita.

SirStack

03-28-2010, 02:06 AM

Finally back. Now updated with "The Trouble with Shellshock".

Digifiend

03-28-2010, 09:21 AM

Don't worry about the delay. I know you have other commitments. :)

EDIT: Good spot with the traffic lights (which has the red and blue the wrong way around as well), Japan obviously uses blue yellow red instead of the red amber green used in the US, UK, and other countries.

Churly

03-28-2010, 01:43 PM

I dunno about you guys, but that color looks more green to me (maybe it's because where I'm from, the Green light does have a bit of blue tint to it).

Digifiend

03-28-2010, 06:51 PM

I was referring to the first shot, when the monster is still in Rita's palace. It's clearly blue. Saban edited some of the later shots to look green, but missed that one.

Churly

03-28-2010, 07:04 PM

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/119/TTwS007.JPG?height=150&width=200

I CAN see a little bit of Blue in this, but it looks more Green to me.

SirStack

03-30-2010, 05:29 AM

Now updated with "Itsy Bitsy Spider". Where we ponder if Miss Muffett murdered Charlotte.

SirStack

04-01-2010, 11:25 PM

Now updated with "Power Ranger Punks (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/121.htm)". Featuring a Black Ranger gone Blue!

SirStack

04-03-2010, 05:35 PM

Now updated with "The Spit Flower (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/122.htm)". With way too many Viewing Globe shots and endlessly repetitive flower footage.

Churly

04-03-2010, 08:59 PM

I gotta be honest, some parts of these comparisons have been bugging me.

1) The cuts before "Japanese Writing" appears. I had always assumed Saban was given the unaltered footage before the Toei editors put up all superimposed text.

2) Calling the Captain Golems "Extra-Chunky Putties." What's wrong with "Rockier Putties?" It makes more sense.

3) Cutting away before "Asians" show up. Is it really politically correct to use such a term? Why not "civillians?" Or, if you must use something more defining, just "Japanese People?" Also, you will eventually see the editors gave up on editing out Japanese people, I mean, they were OBVIOUS in "A Bad Reflection on You." No need for "(shhh!)" there, trust me!

But otherwise, I still enjoy these things very much. Btw, I Image searched "Dinsdale" and got this.

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/Dinsdale.jpg

Digifiend

04-04-2010, 12:14 AM

Close on Tail Staff getting flipped around, zoom out to MegaDragonzord whipping around and stabbing it forth.Is that how Dragonzord Battle Mode was referred to in the episode then?
MegaDragonzord, or Dragonzord in Battle Mode, or Dragonzord in Fighting Mode, or Dinsdale, turns around and walks to our left.lol, did they use two or more different names in the episode or is that just you referring to the naming inconsistencies throughout the season?

SirStack

04-04-2010, 01:40 AM

1) The cuts before "Japanese Writing" appears. I had always assumed Saban was given the unaltered footage before the Toei editors put up all superimposed text.

They would get the completed, finished episode. Which, while it meant writing onscreen, did at least mean finished special effects to use. They didn't get textless material until starting with Gaoranger.

2) Calling the Captain Golems "Extra-Chunky Putties." What's wrong with "Rockier Putties?" It makes more sense.

They have no official name. I've been calling them "Extra-Chunky" (a peanut butter reference) for many years, and have no reason to call them anything else. "Rockier Putties" sounds like a Putty who plays Pachinko and eats a lot.

3) Cutting away before "Asians" show up. Is it really politically correct to use such a term? Why not "civillians?" Or, if you must use something more defining, just "Japanese People?" Also, you will eventually see the editors gave up on editing out Japanese people, I mean, they were OBVIOUS in "A Bad Reflection on You." No need for "(shhh!)" there, trust me!

I usually call them Japanese, but if I put Asian, I'm probably trying to fit the word in without needing a line break or just trying to change things up a bit. Hate to break it to you, but Japanese ARE Asians. As for political correctness, Asian is, unless they changed the rules again, acceptable. It's "Orientals" that's the term that is no longer considered ethnically proper. And as for "civilians", they aren't being cut out because they're civilians, they're being cut out because they're Asian, Japanese, Japasian, Asianese, or just plain not multi-cultural.

But otherwise, I still enjoy these things very much. Btw, I Image searched "Dinsdale" and got this.

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/Dinsdale.jpg

That's the source. See the resemblance?!

Is that how Dragonzord Battle Mode was referred to in the episode then?lol, did they use two or more different names in the episode or is that just you referring to the naming inconsistencies throughout the season?

It was called "MegaDragonzord" in that episode, and "Itsy Bitsy Spider". Later on, they change it back to "Battle Mode" when they start calling the Dragonzord on top of Megazord configuration "MegaDragonzord" (though they slip back in its final appearance in "Return of an Old Friend"). I got briefly confused as to what I was supposed to call it this particular episode, so I called it everything and then some.

Digifiend

04-04-2010, 04:24 AM

They have no official name. I've been calling them "Extra-Chunky" (a peanut butter reference) for many years, and have no reason to call them anything else. "Rockier Putties" sounds like a Putty who plays Pachinko and eats a lot.lol, I see what you mean. :mmred::zblue:

It was called "MegaDragonzord" in that episode, and "Itsy Bitsy Spider". Later on, they change it back to "Battle Mode" when they start calling the Dragonzord on top of Megazord configuration "MegaDragonzord" (though they slip back in its final appearance in "Return of an Old Friend"). I got briefly confused as to what I was supposed to call it this particular episode, so I called it everything and then some.Thanks.

Churly

04-04-2010, 10:36 PM

If memory serves me right, the Frankenstein episode is next.

There's a footage mystery in there I am very ready to hear explained :)

SirStack

04-05-2010, 02:23 AM

Now updated with "Life's a Masquerade (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/123.htm)". Insert Edgar Winter reference here.

Digifiend

04-05-2010, 04:42 AM

Interesting that the Zyu version was a two-parter and leads straight into Island of Illusion. Never realised Mutilis and the Frankenstein monster were the same MOTD. I mean, they're nothing alike.

SirStack

04-05-2010, 03:01 PM

Interesting that the Zyu version was a two-parter and leads straight into Island of Illusion. Never realised Mutilis and the Frankenstein monster were the same MOTD. I mean, they're nothing alike.

Well, the bolts are the same, at least.

SirStack

04-06-2010, 04:32 AM

Now updated with "Gung Ho! (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/124.htm)". Michael Keaton not included.

Charles RB

04-06-2010, 04:56 AM

EDIT: Good spot with the traffic lights (which has the red and blue the wrong way around as well), Japan obviously uses blue yellow red instead of the red amber green used in the US, UK, and other countries.

From what I've heard, (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hidden#Miscellaneous_trivia) Japan does use green lights - but because of an old quirk of the language, where "green" and "blue" used the same word, fictional or illustrated depictions of lights use blue.

Churly

04-06-2010, 06:48 PM

Didn't the script make it clear the Frankenstein monster was supposed to be there?

bobtherandomguy

04-06-2010, 07:42 PM

it was like "Super Frankenstein" which kind of makes me wonder if at any point they had intended for him to turn into Mutitus

SirStack

04-08-2010, 04:11 AM

Now updated with "Island of Illusion, Part I (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/125.htm)". Which could also be called "Episode with Footage From 20 Different Zyu eps".

Digifiend

04-08-2010, 07:03 AM

SirStack

04-08-2010, 03:01 PM

When the rangers jump into the Dinozords, I think you got the notes mixed up. Red you said was from Zyu 30, but couldn't be taken from main source due to lack of use, while pink and yellow from Zyu07 just says it's recycled. Considering Mei's absence from the Daizyujin cockpit forcing them to use different Megazord cockpit scenes later, I assume it's the pink/yellow shot which wasn't used in the main source, because pink wasn't there (although how did Pterodactyl show up then?)

Yep. Oops. Will fix it.

And Zyu is pretty lack with its rules. Sometimes they can't summon the full mecha because one is absent, other times it doesn't matter. But in this case, Mei is there, she does summon alongside her teammates, she just doesn't jump into it, staying on the ground. As a result, there's no footage of Yellow jumping, yet there he is in the cockpit.

SirStack

04-09-2010, 04:52 AM

Now updated with "Island of Illusion, Part II (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/126.htm)". The first of many clip shows, on a series that is already made up of clips from another show!

Churly

04-09-2010, 11:28 AM

SirStack

04-10-2010, 02:34 AM

Now updated with "Wheel of Misfortune (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/127.htm)". Wheel of Misfortune, toin, toin, toin. Tell us the lesson that we should loin.

Churly

04-10-2010, 09:19 AM

If they were able to just take the baby carriage out of that one shot, I wonder why they didn't use the full shot of the Wheel flashing and disintegrating after Ultrazord attack...

SirStack

04-10-2010, 03:01 PM

It's a real shame they didn't use the Source's Ground fight. It was one of the only times the Dragon Ranger was involved in a fight with multiple Rangers. Of course, the writers would have needed to find something for Jason, Trini & Kim to do.

They did end up using a little bit of Green's attack on the Putties, in "Legacy of Power", of all places.

If they were able to just take the baby carriage out of that one shot, I wonder why they didn't use the full shot of the Wheel flashing and disintegrating after Ultrazord attack...

Probably because it's easier to block out an item for a full shot, than it is to block something for a few seconds before the screen goes all explodey. At least at this point in time, the editing technology wasn't as exact as it is now when it comes to those type of effects. Especially for such a low end show like MMPR.

Churly

04-10-2010, 04:45 PM

Whoa, Zyuranger footage all the way in Disney's reign? Amazing.

Digifiend

04-11-2010, 01:36 AM

They did end up using a little bit of Green's attack on the Putties, in "Legacy of Power", of all places.So Legacy of Power used a scene which wasn't even shown first time around? That's an odd decision. :question:

Rev Cmdr Crayfish

04-11-2010, 07:09 AM

Zyuranger audio too. As well as, insanely, UNUSED Manahan Zordon audio from The Power Transfer.

Digifiend

04-11-2010, 08:28 AM

Blimey. I thought the only Zyuranger (or any Sentai) audio they ever used was the dragon dagger music, and that was redone rather than lifted straight from source.

Centauroforce

04-11-2010, 10:04 AM

They did end up using a little bit of Green's attack on the Putties, in "Legacy of Power", of all places.

You know, I'm specifically watching Legacy of Power for it now, but I'm beginning to think my eyes have a spontaneous blind spot for that bit of footage. Where in the episode DO they use it?

Digifiend

04-11-2010, 03:32 PM

Good question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_FRTsl9L3w

SirStack

04-11-2010, 04:37 PM

Odd. I know I saw Green Ranger, picking up large columns and hitting Putties with it, in PRDT. If it wasn't in Legacy of Power, when was it? "A Test of Trust"?

Rev Cmdr Crayfish

04-11-2010, 04:43 PM

No, you're misremembering the way Green Ranger attacked Tommy in FIGHTING SPIRIT you goon. A callback to a fight they DIDN'T USE.

Churly

04-11-2010, 08:59 PM

Question.

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/104/APE120.JPG?height=150&width=200

I was THIS shot (featuring unmorphed ZyuBlack) so commonly used? Was it the only shot in which the Megazord cockpit ever emitted smoke?

SirStack

04-12-2010, 02:27 AM

No, you're misremembering the way Green Ranger attacked Tommy in FIGHTING SPIRIT you goon. A callback to a fight they DIDN'T USE.

...Perhaps. I guess we'll see in 20 years when I finally reach DT, won't we?!

I was THIS shot (featuring unmorphed ZyuBlack) so commonly used? Was it the only shot in which the Megazord cockpit ever emitted smoke?

No, it was very common. There's a lot of them to choose from. Seems the editors liked that one for some reason. It's like that Zyu20 shot of the three Putties flipping over the screen. There's DOZENS of similar shots, but they keep using that one, the one with the part of a building visible to our left (even when they're in the middle of nowhere).

SirStack

04-12-2010, 02:44 AM

Now updated with "Peace, Love and Woe (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/128.htm)". Surpisingly, no Joey Lawrence in this.

SirStack

04-13-2010, 03:36 AM

Now updated with "Dark Warrior (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/129.htm)". Which might better have been titled "Camo Combatant".

Churly

04-13-2010, 08:37 AM

Do you have any scripts of this episode, where Titanus remains? It sucks how they removed his involvement in this fight. Same with the Polluticorn episode.

Digifiend

04-13-2010, 09:06 AM

I assume they removed him because it aired prior to it's introduction. Not to mention the fact Ultazord wasn't used in that episode.

Churly

04-13-2010, 01:06 PM

But this episode was produced after it's introduction. By the logic that the Ultrazord wasn't used in the episode, that means Titanus shouldn't have been used in "Stop the Hate Master Part 2" either.

TZMhero

04-13-2010, 01:29 PM

Now updated with "Peace, Love and Woe (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/128.htm)". Surpisingly, no Joey Lawrence in this.

... You should be hurt for that SirStack

SirStack

04-13-2010, 03:50 PM

Do you have any scripts of this episode, where Titanus remains?

Only one I have is the one on Hexagon, and it glosses over the Zord fight as quick as possible.

But this episode was produced after it's introduction.

It was merely scripted after the introduction. I have reason to believe now they did film 121, 128, 129, and even 130 before they worked on GWE.

... You should be hurt for that SirStack

Get in line.

SirGreen

04-13-2010, 03:55 PM

ah dont hurt him he has cool stuff :)

TZMhero

04-13-2010, 03:57 PM

I know, but that pun... I was shaking with anger!

SirStack

04-15-2010, 03:25 AM

Updated with "The Rockstar (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/130.htm)". More like "The Adventures of Jeremy and the Mirror of Destruction", but whatever.

Digifiend

04-15-2010, 07:29 AM

Hmm, why is it I never noticed before that Billy morphs but is off screen (because Dan was unmorphed in the footage) for most of the battle?

Churly

04-15-2010, 12:11 PM

I wonder why Fox Kids didn't just air it after "The Green Candle." It's understandable they didn't air it before "Green with Evil" (with Scorpina being heavily used here) but why air this within production order if there is no Tommy?

SirStack

04-15-2010, 04:52 PM

Hmm, why is it I never noticed before that Billy morphs but is off screen (because Dan was unmorphed in the footage) for most of the battle?

Yes, he's "off looking for Jeremy" (or as closed captions ignorantly put it, he's "looking for Tommy").

I wonder why Fox Kids didn't just air it after "The Green Candle." It's understandable they didn't air it before "Green with Evil" (with Scorpina being heavily used here) but why air this within production order if there is no Tommy?

Probably because by this time, a new episode was a new episode. Didn't matter to them yet whether Tommy was in it or not, the show was big, not yet mainly the character.

SirStack

04-17-2010, 04:35 AM

Updated now with "Calamity Kimberly (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/131.htm)". When eating at the Putty Bowl Cafe, don't forget to bring quarters for the kids to ride the Battle Bikes!

Churly

04-17-2010, 11:06 AM

God forbid Asian civilians (which could even pass as an Asian-American Immigrant) appears in front of the kiddies eyes, but the one thing that's TOO Japanese is A-Okay :)

Oh, and those Battle Bikes were a big tease for me. I had a coloring book where they appeared in and I wondered "Hey, they didn't appear on the show!"

PowerOnyx

04-17-2010, 11:32 AM

This is my new favorite site.

Thanks.

Digifiend

04-17-2010, 11:35 AM

God forbid Asian civilians (which could even pass as an Asian-American Immigrant) appears in front of the kiddies eyes, but the one thing that's TOO Japanese is A-Okay :)
You mean the Samurai themed monster? Yeah, that, plus the kanji in reversioned GWE, should shut up those who say Shinkenger was too Japanese to get adapted. :D

Churly

04-17-2010, 12:54 PM

Considering how afraid they were of Asians being on screen, I'm surprised they even cast Trini the way they did. It's like they were their own hypocrites.

bobtherandomguy

04-18-2010, 10:31 AM

I highly doubt they were afraid of asians...you are reading way too much into this

SirStack

04-20-2010, 03:44 AM

Now updated with "A Star is Born (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/132.htm)". Bow before me, Reversioning! I hath conquered your single season order in under the time you've been airing!

Churly

04-20-2010, 03:23 PM

SirStack

04-20-2010, 05:39 PM

I'm not sure why they didn't just write Pink out of the episode. I mean, both Zyu episodes shows ZyuPink to be heavily absent, couldn't they have had her out doing some gymnastics tournament, or heck, get captured for once?

It might be they didn't want another Pinkless ep, even partially, right behind "Calamity Kimberly".

Also, I expected a lot more Zyu1/2 stuff here.

Seems they lacked much in the way of Goldar footage from it. Clearly what I've learned from this is the decision to make Goldar a major player was done in post production. When they wrote the original drafts of the scripts, and ordered the Zyu-Half stuff, Goldar was just muscle and said little, like in Zyu. The original Goldar stuff was probably wasn't done until well after they started filming, and was mainly used when the ADR writers needed something extra to help a scene go. It seems as though Goldar's role in "Jason's Battle" changed their perspective of what he was capable of. ASiB is the first episode they were actively trying to see if Goldar could be a main villain (apparently, Tony Oliver had designs to eventually make Goldar take over from Rita!)

Churly

04-20-2010, 06:06 PM

SirStack

04-20-2010, 06:21 PM

One more question (well, in two parts): Why did they decide to remove Octophantom in the original draft? Second, why were they planning on leaving Babe Ruthless out in the first place?

Beats me. It may have something to do with the fact Octophantom had a least a little usuable human sized footage and Babe didn't. I seem to recall they were going to chop out all of the human sized stuff for Octo for this episode, so someone probably realized it would be better to save that for later, alongside Goatan. If "saving for later" was even on their minds at this point.

SirStack

04-22-2010, 07:02 PM

Now updated with "The Yolk's On You! (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/133.htm)" Gooney Bird Eggs ARE good enough!

SirStack

04-24-2010, 03:16 AM

Now updated with "The Green Candle, Part I (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/134.htm)". Rita exposes her big, white, one-eyed monster to the world.

SirStack

04-24-2010, 11:19 PM

Updated with "The Green Candle, Part II (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/135.htm)". Zack's Wax off!

Churly

04-25-2010, 08:14 AM

For some reason, I was expecting a lot more out of the Green Candle episodes... Maybe its because I was bummed they didn't use the cool shot of Red, Yellow, Pink & Green in the Megazord cockpit. Seeing a bit of unmorphed Burai was a nice touch though.

Next up is Birds of a Feather, my favorite non Zyu2 episode :D

SirStack

04-28-2010, 01:10 AM

Now updated with "Birds of a Feather (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/136.htm)". Featuring no birds, and no feathers.

Digifiend

04-28-2010, 01:50 AM

Typo: Zoom out slowly from Red as he plays Draggon Dagger in right-tilted Megazord cockpit and looks from side to side, lowering it and nod-talking, then playing it again.

I wonder why they waited until this episode to add Ultrazord to the titles?

Churly

04-28-2010, 09:11 AM

I wonder why they waited until this episode to add Ultrazord to the titles?

They were too lazy to add it in until Green Ranger left. That's my guess...

Anyway, hooray! We're almost at the Zyu2 episodes ^_^

Digifiend

04-28-2010, 10:01 AM

Well I hope the reversioning fixes that - Ultrazord should've been in the titles the episode after it's debut IMHO.

Digifiend

05-13-2010, 06:39 AM

Hey Jesse, next time you update the Morphylogeny, don't forget to get rid of the Buena Vista copyright! :D

Churly

05-13-2010, 07:50 AM

Nice Digifiend, here I was thinking he was back with the comparisons...

SirStack

05-31-2010, 05:38 AM

Back after a month break! Not only am I president of "Clean-Up Club (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/137.htm)", but I'm also a client.

Digifiend

05-31-2010, 11:34 AM

Jesse, don't forget the copyright on the home page. Should be Saban Brands now. Also, you mentioned shots of Ultrazord appearing were cut. Since Megazord can't be in two places at once, did you mean Titanus?

Glad to see you're updating it again anyway. :)

SirStack

05-31-2010, 06:49 PM

Jesse, don't forget the copyright on the home page. Should be Saban Brands now.

How many PR fansites have changed their copyright listings? Of course, now the ones who never changed things to Disney are technically correct again...

Also, you mentioned shots of Ultrazord appearing were cut. Since Megazord can't be in two places at once, did you mean Titanus?

Sort of. Megazord hops in the back of Titanus, who's clearly in Ultrazord mode to have his guns up and an open back. He merely fires his mouth blast at Polluticorn, who dodges then runs up and knocks Megazord out of it. But yeah, no Dragonzord involved means it really isn't Ultra.

Glad to see you're updating it again anyway. :)

Thanks. Glad to have anyone care I'm updating.

Churly

05-31-2010, 07:07 PM

I care too Stack, but if there's nothing to say, there's nothing to say. The entire highlight of this episode was taken away because Saban didn't feel like explaining why Megazord was on Titanus without Dragonzord. In Zyu, this was only a standard "Help Kid" plot with no twist to it.

When you get to Doomsday, I'll be commenting (because those unmorphed Zyu's got past the editors eyes quite a lot there).

PinkShogun

05-31-2010, 07:53 PM

How many PR fansites have changed their copyright listings? Of course, now the ones who never changed things to Disney are technically correct again...

Sort of. Megazord hops in the back of Titanus, who's clearly in Ultrazord mode to have his guns up and an open back. He merely fires his mouth blast at Polluticorn, who dodges then runs up and knocks Megazord out of it. But yeah, no Dragonzord involved means it really isn't Ultra.

Thanks. Glad to have anyone care I'm updating.
Was that the weird combination of Daizujin and King Brachion. It's featured on the Super Sentai Time Capsule. I never knew it actually was used.

Digifiend

05-31-2010, 11:51 PM

http://www.supersentai.com/database/1992_zyuranger/images/zyu-sz-KyuuDaizyujin.jpg

Prototype of Red Dragon riding Tigerzord? lol

SirStack

05-31-2010, 11:58 PM

http://www.supersentai.com/database/1992_zyuranger/images/zyu-sz-KyuuDaizyujin.jpg

Prototype of Red Dragon riding Tigerzord? lol

That's exactly what it looked like in footage, except with mist and movement (and we don't actually see it mounting Titanus, nor do we even see Titanus approaching, he's just there and already on it and he vanishes just as quickly). And Polluticorn actually eyebeams at Megazord, causing it to fall off (my mistake earlier)

Churly

06-02-2010, 05:31 AM

Here it is, for those who wants to see the footage, as well as many more. In Un-Subbed glory too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY1g8tr3cDk

Skip to 6:34 if all you want to see is Titanus.

SirStack

06-06-2010, 04:13 AM

Now updated with "A Bad Reflection on You (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/138.htm)". Marking the second time this season Kim has broken a mirror.

Churly

06-07-2010, 06:36 AM

This really was an episode the show could have done without.

- Extremely lame looking monster (considering this is Season 1)
- Japanese Civilians everywhere
- Lame premise (oh my! Evil copies of our heroes! How original!)
- Worst of all, no Zord fight.

Digifiend

06-07-2010, 07:52 AM

The zord fight would've been too similar to the Cyclops one. Fake Dragonzord? In fact, since this monster had the same powers as Cyclops (shapeshifting), why create a new one at all? I mean, they used others more than once.

Churly

06-07-2010, 08:24 AM

That makes Twin Man all the more useless & pathetic.

SirStack

06-09-2010, 06:03 AM

Now updated with "Doomsday, Part I (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/139.htm)".

Digifiend

06-09-2010, 07:39 AM

Blimey they used a lot of different episodes there. So the final four Zyu eps became the last two intended PR episodes then. I guessing the DZBM staff shot should've been the arms and legs attaching played in reverse, as it was about to dismantle itself to form MegaDragonzord. It's like they pressed play instead of rewind from the point they left off with the earlier DZBM form up.

Churly

06-09-2010, 07:45 AM

You know, a couple weeks ago I came up with a good idea as to why Zyu changed Lokar's look, but idiot me forgot. :p

I also forgot MMPR did not use the infamous DBM Birds-Eye view shot from Pressing Engagement, which originated from Zyu48. Guess that was because they needed to cut Barza out (because heaven forbid American children see Asian people like they don't go to school with them or something).

Digifiend

06-09-2010, 09:46 AM

No, the reason for editing Barza out is that they already used him for a Zordon flashback.

SirStack

06-12-2010, 04:28 AM

Now updated with "Doomsday, Part II (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/140.htm)". Thus ending the show's initial 40 ep order!

Rev Cmdr Crayfish

06-12-2010, 04:39 AM

YOU CAN STOP DOING THIS THING!

... in like four episodes, before we go to Zyu2!

Digifiend

06-12-2010, 06:30 AM

Somehow I never noticed before the goof they made with Goldar. Surely there was an alternate moon palace scene they could've used with Goldar not present?

lol at the comments made when Megazord and Dragonzord disappear piece by piece (energy lava, DZ being so much worse off).

I can see a lot of stuff saying "Original Footage" until we get to Oyster Stew now. Since all Zyu2 stuff is technically original footage. The Mutiny onwards, not so much, because of the US footage of villains and ground fights, and the Dairanger hack job for the zord battles.

Churly

06-12-2010, 09:56 AM

He can still point out when a Dai monster shot is being used.

EVERY Non Zyu2 episode of S2 had Non-Zord fight Dairanger footage.

Churly

06-12-2010, 10:28 PM

Btw, what was the reason they chose not to use Kai (whom I refuse to call "Bubba")?

Was it due to him being "OMG! Japanese!?"

Digifiend

06-13-2010, 06:06 AM

Nope, weren't they going to use him, if Doomsday really was the last ever episode? Probably changed because Bubba's destruction would've caused Rita's defeat (Bandora lost her powers because of it).

Churly

06-13-2010, 09:24 AM

The script that Stack put up has Bubba, has him being killed, but has Rita escaping, just like what happened in the aired version.

SirStack

06-13-2010, 03:49 PM

Now updated with "A Pig Surprise (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/141.htm)". It's clearly a set-up for a Skrull Kill Krew spin-off where eating Norman the former Pudgy Pig gives a group of bacon lovers the ability to see Putties, or something.

Digifiend

06-13-2010, 04:22 PM

That must be the cheapest episode ever, almost everything is recycled footage!
The script that Stack put up has Bubba, has him being killed, but has Rita escaping, just like what happened in the aired version.That must be a later version of the script then. The original (before the show got extended to 60 episodes) had Rita and her cronies put back in the dumpster, if I recall correctly. The one they used is another later version.

Churly

06-13-2010, 10:48 PM

They should have reused Chunky Chicken as well, they had an entirely unused Zord fight of it left! I mean, they had the suit, the episode was already "Farm-ish themed," it made too much sense!

Oh well... ALMOST AT ZYU2 :D:D Keep it up Stacky, don't listen to Funaro, the public must know what's Zyu2 and what's Zyu!

SirStack

06-14-2010, 05:13 AM

They should have reused Chunky Chicken as well, they had an entirely unused Zord fight of it left!

Except the censors didn't like a monster using scissors as a weapon, due to their wide availability in all households. Kids would be more prone to copying that way.

Oh well... ALMOST AT ZYU2 :D:D Keep it up Stacky, don't listen to Funaro, the public must know what's Zyu2 and what's Zyu!

We'll see. I have every intention of doing every episode ever, plus VR Troopers, Masked Rider, Beetleborgs... Everything, a whole lifetime's worth of work. But my main goal right now is to do the Zyu1 eps, then I can take another break and reevaulate things.

Speaking of which, made a grave oversight in doing "A Pig Surprise". That wasn't a US Putty flip, but in fact footage from Zyu44. And with that shot, they officially have used footage from all 50 episodes of Zyuranger. I'll be fixing it with the next update.

Churly

06-14-2010, 06:22 AM

SirStack

06-14-2010, 02:37 PM

... Then why did they USE both versions of Chunky Chicken? Sorry, but that isn't a good excuse, especially since I'd consider Chunky Chicken 1's weapon a lot more dangerous than Chunky Chicken 2's, and the former was the one who's Zord battle was used.

You saw they trimmed out most of the shots of the hedge shears being used in battle. More dangerous? Doesn't matter, laser guns and katana sabers are more dangerous, but they're also harder to get a hold of than scissors. Kids watching the show, on TV, aren't going to have hedge trimmers lying around their living room when they start playing Power Rangers on their own. But scissors? Very common. Too common, too easy to get. "Rah! I'm Chunky Chicken, I stab you Power Rangers with my scissors!" "OW! MOM!"

Churly

06-14-2010, 06:20 PM

Stack, the Megazord fight seen in "Big Sisters" was that of Chunky Chicken 1, the one who used Scissors as a main weapon. If you know that, I really don't see the point you're trying to make.

SirStack

06-14-2010, 06:29 PM

Stack, the Megazord fight seen in "Big Sisters" was that of Chunky Chicken 1, the one who used Scissors as a main weapon. If you know that, I really don't see the point you're trying to make.

You're right. I've spent so much time watching Zyuranger in fastforward and rewind I confused the whole thing with the fact they used the killing of CC2 at the end of the CC1 fight. I was trying to remember what my rationalization was, and I mixed in the "Doctor Who: Inside the Spaceship/Edge of Destruction" scissors controversy.

Close enough, though, I believe CC2 used his hedge trimmers an awful lot on Megazord in the battle, whereas the scissors weren't used as much. There IS a reason for it, looking at the footage. But yes, they could've reshot some things and used as much of it as possible, but I guess the fact "Big Sisters" was such a nightmare of an episode, production and watching wise, nobody cared about seeing Chunky again, instead wanting Pudgy.

SirStack

06-16-2010, 05:14 AM

Now updated with "Lions & Blizzards (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/142.htm)". Zack loses a finger while on a date with Angela.

Churly

06-16-2010, 08:36 AM

Better late than never, is my opinion on this whole episode. While not really my favorite monster, Goatan still counts as the most badass, and was the only monster who earned the rights to make that cameo in Zyu50 (unlike Cyclops & Twin Man...).

SirStack

06-19-2010, 02:25 AM

Now updated with "Rita's Seed of Evil (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/143.htm)". Fully fertiilized with footage!

Digifiend

06-19-2010, 04:25 AM

They really should've overlaid this shot with the US design. If they can mix Zyu and US footage for the cockpit shot in this episode, the sword on the beach in another, and the glowing coins in Green With Evil, surely they could've done so here. Especially since this shot was used all season, where the others were one-offs.
http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/105/DD065.JPG
And I guess Zyu32 not using the red helmet form up caught them out - normally the Zyu shot would just blend in.
The Zyu morph is at 3:11 in this video. Takes less than two seconds, I can see how they mistimed it when editing PR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUD1kAl8Zd0

Churly

06-19-2010, 03:49 PM

I hated how the Zyu counterpart made this episode a Dragon Ranger themed episode, without it being a Dragon Ranger centered episode. Otherwise, I liked how the monster was called "Dora Narcissus," it just sounds cool. Man, the Putty battle alone came from all unused Putty fights for whatever reason didn't make their own episodes.

Oh and, OMG! Japanese girl clear as day! Cancel the show! Discontinue the toys! The franchise is ruined!!!!!

Digifiend

06-19-2010, 04:22 PM

lol, I don't see how it would've mattered if one or two Japanese folks remained in shot. You do get Asians in America.

SirStack

06-19-2010, 05:15 PM

lol, I don't see how it would've mattered if one or two Japanese folks remained in shot. You do get Asians in America.

It's less the girl being Asian and more being unconnected to every other shot. She gets no lines, doesn't get mentioned in any dialogue.

Churly

06-20-2010, 11:12 AM

lol, I don't see how it would've mattered if one or two Japanese folks remained in shot. You do get Asians in America.

My entire point on everything - especially why they should have given the Lion Thunderzord the Shadaam Illusion in Lyp Syncher's fight.

SirStack

06-21-2010, 05:14 AM

Now updated with "Crystal of Nightmares (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/144.htm)". More like "Clipshow of Nightmares".

Cyan

06-21-2010, 09:33 AM

My entire point on everything - especially why they should have given the Lion Thunderzord the Shadaam Illusion in Lyp Syncher's fight.

In Dairanger in makes sense. Had they adapted Dairanger for Season 2, it would've probably made sense. In Power Rangers as it is, why would Zack's Thunderzord produce an illusion of an oddly-dressed Japanese man swinging a sword at Lipsyncher?

I agree that they should've done something though. But no, the Lion Thunderzord's all like "nah man, this is my R&R time, y'hear?".

Great website, SirStack. If I ever see you in person, I will not pelt you with citrus fruits.

Churly

06-21-2010, 11:14 AM

They did a real poor job of masking King Sphinx there. I'm inclined to watch the episode to see how long that shot was.

And Stack, spotted a mistake for you :)

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/144/CoN032.JPG?height=150&width=200

You have this listed as "Zyu06" which is impossible since Scorpina is there.

SirStack

09-07-2010, 11:59 PM

Back to the grind, Zyu2 era begins with "Something Fishy (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/145.htm)".

Churly

09-08-2010, 09:47 AM

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! SirStack is back! SirStack is back!

Clearly, they flipped the Putty battle with Goo Fish's arrival.

I'm a little confused by what you mean by this. Was that one shot flipped to give less focus on the Putties? I can see what are probably Putties to the left of the frame, but they aren't defined and detailed enough for me to distinguish them from ordinary rocks...

Also, I noticed the new footage of Goldar looks much better production wise. Lighting and Set Design specifically. Since they were recording new footage of him inside the palace, I wonder why they didn't use Goldar V2...

SirStack

09-08-2010, 01:01 PM

I'm a little confused by what you mean by this. Was that one shot flipped to give less focus on the Putties? I can see what are probably Putties to the left of the frame, but they aren't defined and detailed enough for me to distinguish them from ordinary rocks...

When I said "flipped" I didn't mean physically, I meant it appears the stuff of Blue & Pink vs Putties should've come after Goo's arrival on the scene in the original footage. They flipped that bit back before it, which gave more importance to his appearance than if he had appeared then they fought Putties, then fought him some more.

Also, I noticed the new footage of Goldar looks much better production wise. Lighting and Set Design specifically. Since they were recording new footage of him inside the palace, I wonder why they didn't use Goldar V2...

Because I said, those shots were all done during "Doomsday", which would've been filmed well before they had the new Goldar head to use.

rangerfan998

09-09-2010, 08:24 AM

Man, this stuff is good. To see how much cutting-and-pasting was done back with multiple Zyu episodes.

And now that you are on the Zyu2 stuff, should get real interesting to see how they adapted footage. I see from this episode they even changed the order of stuff.

Digifiend

09-09-2010, 07:06 PM

I wonder why the new zord summon/combining footage wasn't used straight away?

SirStack

09-10-2010, 04:12 AM

Now updated with "To Flea or Not to Flee (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/146.htm)".

rangerfan998

09-10-2010, 07:38 AM

I don't get some of their choices. Why did they feel the need to extend the zord battle by using Tank Mode?

Digifiend

09-10-2010, 12:33 PM

Thrax

09-10-2010, 12:44 PM

I was looking up Zyuranger earlier, and the titles with Daizyujin (Megazord) in them had a version of this, with the sword and shield!
http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/101/DOTD040A.JPG
A shot which PR seemed to always replace with the above.
Look at 1:24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Put3rXAdJg

Was there a reason for that?

The final scene with the Megazord as really cool as sad they dont use such scene in MMPR, because use a lot of many kinds of scenes formations when they form the Megazord.

Churly

09-10-2010, 01:02 PM

I don't get some of their choices. Why did they feel the need to extend the zord battle by using Tank Mode?

I guess they wanted to use Tank Mode once more but Toei didn't film it (it was a separate suit most likely). They could have used another monster that was hit with actual explosives though.

Digifiend

09-10-2010, 01:20 PM

Suit? Tank mode isn't humanoid, so it was probably a model.

SirStack

09-10-2010, 03:46 PM

Was there a reason for that?

It's never used in Zyu. Just the opening credits, which they never got textless versions of. In later seasons PR did get textless stuff (hence the use of Gao opening stuff for the PRWF preview at the end of PRTF).

Besides, PR marginalized the Mammoth Shield like crazy. The few times it was used in Zyu, PR removed it in all but, one maybe?

Plus, unless the Megazord had the Shield with it in the next shot, using the shot from the opening wouldn't fit with whatever comes next.

Digifiend

09-11-2010, 06:21 AM

Thanks. I bet Gao's opening being clean was due to the fact they upped the CGI big time that year, which also meant they no longer had to cut name labels from shots.

SirStack

09-11-2010, 07:46 PM

Now updated with "Reign of the Jellyfish (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/147.htm)".

Churly

09-11-2010, 09:40 PM

I can't help but think if Zyu2 had a story, Jellyfish was the first monster. All the Rangers are fighting at once and they even use the Individual Zords.

SirStack

09-12-2010, 04:36 PM

I can't help but think if Zyu2 had a story, Jellyfish was the first monster. All the Rangers are fighting at once and they even use the Individual Zords.

I don't think so. It's still a Black focus, just with a team slant.

Churly

09-12-2010, 06:41 PM

I don't think so. It's still a Black focus, just with a team slant.

Guess I need to rewrite that section of my (very... slowly... progressing) Fanfic then!

SirStack

09-13-2010, 02:57 PM

Updated with "Plague of the Mantis (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/148.htm)".

SirStack

09-14-2010, 04:54 AM

Now updated with "Return of an Old Friend, Part I (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/149.htm)".

Churly

09-14-2010, 08:17 AM

My, you're flying through this quick, so quick I had no chance to think of what to say about "Plague of the Mantis." Interesting to see Yellow Ranger managed to beat Mantis's Putties when we didn't see it. I felt Trini was a wimp in that episode... so Mantis doesn't fight with honor, just kick his ***!

Digifiend

09-14-2010, 11:09 AM

Ah, the new Megazord formation footage.

SirStack

09-16-2010, 02:02 AM

Updated with "Return of an Old Friend, Part II (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/150.htm)."

Digifiend

09-16-2010, 04:21 AM

Strange that they went back to the second version of the titles, which don't include Ultrazord. I had to double check that you hadn't made a mistake there, but you're right.

Churly

09-16-2010, 08:33 AM

rangerfan998

09-17-2010, 12:25 PM

Those establishing shots of Dramole's Feet, Hands, and Head are a standard for introducing characters in Japanese media, proving the Rangers had no previous knowledge of Dramole before he showed up. Why were the Rangers morphed and looking around for something then? Hmmm :)

They seemed to like doing that alot in the first season. Giving the US characters knowledge earlier than the footage allows for.

SirStack

09-17-2010, 08:11 PM

Updated with "Grumble Bee (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/151.htm)".

Churly

09-17-2010, 09:31 PM

Yellow Ranger climbing a tree? Isn't this the same Yellow Ranger who was afraid of heights?

inb4shegotoverit

Centauroforce

09-18-2010, 08:26 AM

Updated with "Return of an Old Friend, Part II (http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/150.htm)."

I'm surprised you didn't mention the obvious difference between the two halves of the Zord fight (shot on an actual dark set vs artificially darkened in post-production).

Digifiend

09-18-2010, 11:06 AM

Yellow Ranger climbing a tree? Isn't this the same Yellow Ranger who was afraid of heights?

inb4shegotoverit

She clearly don't have that fear when morphed. How high does she jump to access her zord? lol

Back to the old Megazord footage I see. No Green Ranger, so this should've been before Return of an Old Friend, no doubt about it.

Mr. Green

09-18-2010, 11:10 AM

Yellow Ranger climbing a tree? Isn't this the same Yellow Ranger who was afraid of heights?

inb4shegotoverit

Sentai footage. :p

Digifiend

09-18-2010, 11:14 AM

Zyu2 footage actually. It was never used in Sentai.

SirStack

09-18-2010, 06:20 PM

I'm surprised you didn't mention the obvious difference between the two halves of the Zord fight (shot on an actual dark set vs artificially darkened in post-production).

I didn't even notice. It's possible it was shot that way intentionally, but without seeing the original Zyu2 stuff, it's always just a guess. Presumably the usage of Dramole's battle in season 2 would show if it was darkened in PR or in the original footage.

Churly

09-19-2010, 12:45 AM

No Green Ranger, so this should've been before Return of an Old Friend, no doubt about it.

May as well say Peckster, Saliguana, Octophantom & Stag Beetle should have been before RoaOF too.

I didn't even notice. It's possible it was shot that way intentionally, but without seeing the original Zyu2 stuff, it's always just a guess. Presumably the usage of Dramole's battle in season 2 would show if it was darkened in PR or in the original footage.

That's why Dramole is jerking his head around after Dragonzord's Chest lights up. My guess is it shot out those Red Rays (hence, that red shield seen in Plex sketches as well as the Sega MMPR Video Games).