Jason, Zack, Trini... Peace Conferenced.

[SirStack]

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z240/scarletscrier/newteens.jpg

There's what the three stand-ins for Austin, Thuy, and Walt looked like. As you can see, this was on the set of "The Ninja Encounter, Part I", which recycled footage (and clothes) from "The Song of Guitardo".

[Churly]

I'm speechless.

That is all.

[Captain Platypus]

Most of us are speechless. I'm too busy laughing

[Cmdr Crayfish]

* ahem *

THANKS TO MY BESTEST PAL IN THE UNIVERSE, CHRIS FUNARO, FOR SCANNING THIS FROM HIS PERSONAL COLLECTION...

[Captain Platypus]

Wow, your best friend if Chris Funaro? That's so cool

*dies of laughter*

[Cmdr Crayfish]

If you want something done right, do it yourself.

[bobtherandomguy]

so were those the stand in's they used for the entire 6 or 7 episodes?

[Captain Platypus]

There's so, so many jokes I can make here, but out of deference to a PG forum, I'll let everyone just imagine the joke I'm liable to make

[Barracuda]

Ummmmmmm............what is wrong with this picture?! The whole thing is wow..............

[arcadiarika]

(whistles)

So that's what the stand-ins look like.

Gotta love how the Jason stand-in looks nothing like Austin St. John. And how the Trini stand-in had short hair (did they use a wig for said stand-in)?

Thanks for scanning that picture, SirStack. Interesting insight, indeed.

[bobtherandomguy]

Jason's stand in reminds me more of Rocky then of Jason to be honest

[Tenaya]

Jason's stand in reminds me more of Rocky then of Jason to be honest

I was going to say that... I think Rocky has that shirt o.O

[Churly]

Her hair is probably just in a ponytail.

[ForeverRanger]

Well at least we know where Rocky's signature flannel came from

[bobtherandomguy]

Jason wore flannel a few times I think wasn't his cast image for season two a flannel shirt

[Mr. Red]

Jason's stand in reminds me more of Rocky then of Jason to be honest

I was thinking the same thing. Wow...

[SirGreen]

i agree about rocky.

someone shoudl so post this pic in the caption forum that would be a hoot.... i think lol

[Digifiend]

Jason stand-in looks more like Rocky! :lol:

And yes, they will have used a wig. It's not like these stand-ins did any fight scenes - Rocky, Adam and Aisha did them instead. Gave them to good opportunity to mention "aim for the Z" again.

[Charles RB]

Good GOD.
.

[KyoryuRed]

i'm speechless...

but, Jason indeed look like Rocky to me

[FoxelloBlue]

Wow......erm........I don't really know what to say *unsure face*. Apart from the fact that Trini's 'double' is about four shades darker than Thuy *rolls eyes*. Amazing what they thought kids would fall, isn't it?

P.S The Jason 'lookalike' had more of an Elvis quiff in TNE.P2.

[Captain Platypus]

They don't have to look exactly like them as long as the silhouette is close enough to work.

[Churly]

Why are people complaining about the way they look? I mean, this was almost two decades ago! Fake Trini's skin is like four shades darker? That sounds kinda racist in my opinion...

[Charles RB]

I'm not sure how it's racist to point out Thuy's double has darker skin than Thuy.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Acknowledging people have different ethnicity than other people is racist. Horray!

[SirStack]

Acknowledging people have different ethnicity than other people is racist. Horray!

At least no one accused Fake Trini of being a Real Tranny.

[Captain Platypus]

How did I miss that joke?!

[FoxelloBlue]

Why are people complaining about the way they look? I mean, this was almost two decades ago! Fake Trini's skin is like four shades darker? That sounds kinda racist in my opinion...

Eh? How exactly? I was just stating that the lookalike Trini is darker than the real Trini! Sorry if you misconstrued my point, I can assure you it wasn't meant to be 'racist'!

[bobtherandomguy]

why didn't they just use the dark rangers as doubles

[SirStack]

why didn't they just use the dark rangers as doubles

Because those were actors. These are extras. Much cheaper.

[bobtherandomguy]

if they were extra's I wonder if they ever appeared in Juice Bar Scenes for instance

[adamisme]

it would be interesting to go back and see if we could see them. But nice stand-in's :-)

[Mr. White]

Um wow... Jason's does look like Rocky lol

[MMPRfan90]

This is a great find. I was looking at this on my phone inititally and my first thought was, "OMG, they used a guy for Trini?!". Looking at in on my PC, she doesn't look that bad....black guys looks nothing like Zack, his hair isn't even as high as Walter's was and "Jason" is styled more like Rocky than Jason.

[bobtherandomguy]

is "Zack" wearing glasses, I swear I can see frames around his eyes, he just reminds me of Urkle

[MMPRfan90]

is "Zack" wearing glasses, I swear I can see frames around his eyes, he just reminds me of UrkleWell Zack's dad did look like an Urkle/Bill Cosby hybrid LOL!

[Jiemusu]

if they were extra's I wonder if they ever appeared in Juice Bar Scenes for instance

Ninja Encounter.

Tommy, Billy and Kim are sitting at a table together, watching the Angel Grove Vs Stone Canyon ninja match preparations, where we are then led to believe that "Jason, Zack and Trini" (these doubles, obviously, same outfits from Song Of Guitardo etc) WALK PAST the friends they've known for more than a year as an enclosed group, away from the camera, and sit somewhere else without us being forced to see their faces. "Good friends?"

This is where I like to draw on a theory that the group got divided because Jason was pissed off and/or depressed at Tommy being leader that he started to diverge away from Tommy. Zack and Trini remained loyal to Jason, where as Kim and Billy remained loyal to Tommy. Because Tommy was the leader, and Jason was the "rebel" now, so to speak, the show focused on Tommy. It's just my way of justifying things with in-show reasons, ignoring external actor reasons.

Trini and Zack's doubles, to be fair, at least VAGUELY look like Trini and Zack from behind in that juice bar scene, and command centre scenes, when we look at them from behind. But Jason's, hell no.

[bobtherandomguy]

I was talking about when they weren't playing doubles to the rangers.

I've never really found that theory very believable because when we did see the team all together(through recycled footage) they acted like they always had.

[Jiemusu]

I was talking about when they weren't playing doubles to the rangers.

OH right, I get you now.


I've never really found that theory very believable because when we did see the team all together(through recycled footage) they acted like they always had.

Probably because they had an obligation to work as part of a team for the sake of duty and people's lives. So for the benefit of the civilians, they put their personal feelings on hold when it's time to do collective duty.

But unmorphed, they haven't got that obligation.

I imagine Zack and Trini were still ok with the group, but Jason wasn't, so Zack and Trini felt torn because they were loyal to Jason too.

It's just me brainstorming really.

[louie kaboom]

That makes a whole lot sense to me Jiemusu they were obligated to work as part of a team for the sake of duty and peoples lives but unmorphed there split and its jason vs tommy

[bobtherandomguy]

Jason was the first person Tommy thought of when Billy couldn't use the Gold Ranger powers. If there had been a split over Tommy being the leader(which he still was in Zeo) I doubt Jason would have been so willing. Really the only extremely odd instance I can think of was when they didn't all sit together at the Ninja Tournament and the logical explanation I have for that. Well there wasn't really any seats open by Tommy, Billy and Kim

[Churly]

^ That was the least of my complaints.

By the time the Power Transfer came about, Zordon made it sound like JT&Z was IMPORTANT to the mission of finding the Sword (can't remember its full name). Sure, Jason added a lot to the mission by keeping Zedd & Serpentera at bay, but Trini & Zack? They did NOTHING! They added absolutely NOTHING to the mission.

Trini & Zack didn't earn their retirement.

[Jiemusu]

Jason was the first person Tommy thought of when Billy couldn't use the Gold Ranger powers. If there had been a split over Tommy being the leader(which he still was in Zeo) I doubt Jason would have been so willing. Really the only extremely odd instance I can think of was when they didn't all sit together at the Ninja Tournament and the logical explanation I have for that. Well there wasn't really any seats open by Tommy, Billy and Kim

When Tommy was leader, he didn't have a problem with Jason.

My theory is Jason having a problem with Tommy being leader, and righly so. Not the other way round.

But during his leave after giving his powers to Rocky, Jason has time to reflect over the matters, and learns to be himself, more relaxed, away from duty. When he comes back, him and Tommy haven't got a problem anymore.


^ That was the least of my complaints.

By the time the Power Transfer came about, Zordon made it sound like JT&Z was IMPORTANT to the mission of finding the Sword (can't remember its full name). Sure, Jason added a lot to the mission by keeping Zedd & Serpentera at bay, but Trini & Zack? They did NOTHING! They added absolutely NOTHING to the mission.

Trini & Zack didn't earn their retirement.

Believe me, I'm pretty pissed about how Trini and Zack weren't given a fair goodbye either.

But I view that scene like this, Jason had become quiet and depressed since Zordon the senile ******* reduced Jason to half a man, it was as if Jason had lost his spark.

But on his final mission as a red ranger, Jason places his hand on his old friend's shoulder, the new leader, and for the first time in a long time since his demotion, speaks out.

"Let me take him."

Overanalyzing this to the extreme, but it felt like good development for Jason. He was fighting back, and regaining strength and confidence, the fire was lit again, for one last mission.

For that, emphasis had to be taken off Zack and Trini, sadly.

[Churly]

However, keep in mind Jason & Zack had to handle Terror Blossom by themselves. He also defeated Lyp Syncher without the help of Tommy.

[Crazy Davey]

Trini looks rather man-ish <_<

[Takeru]

Why are people complaining about the way they look? I mean, this was almost two decades ago! Fake Trini's skin is like four shades darker? That sounds kinda racist in my opinion...

i mean yea,if you were gonna say something,why say that? i mean out of all you couldve said,you say that?

[Takeru]

Trini looks rather man-ish <_<

screw you.

[Churly]

i mean yea,if you were gonna say something,why say that? i mean out of all you couldve said,you say that?

Do you work for the Department of Redundancy Department?

[Mr. White]

screw you.

Well that wasn't very nice

[SirGreen]

Do you work for the Department of Redundancy Department?

That was rather hysterical.

Zach didnt really do much he was just kind of their

[Jiemusu]

Zach didnt really do much he was just kind of their

I'd double check that if I were you.

[Mr. Black]

Uh...what the heck? I am shocked and humored!

[MegaZeo]

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z240/scarletscrier/newteens.jpg

Am I the only one who thought "Jason" was Richie at first?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I honestly thought when I purchased this picture off Mark Richardson it was of Richie, some guy, and Tina from the Dark Rangers.

[Jiemusu]

I thought Rocky, but now that I think about it, it screams Richie more.

[bobtherandomguy]

I'd double check that if I were you.



I think he means in regards to the battle against Terror Blossom. Jason just activated the Thunder Saber and the monster blew up

[Digifiend]

screw you.:attention: People are entitled to an opinion dude.

[Jiemusu]

I think he means in regards to the battle against Terror Blossom. Jason just activated the Thunder Saber and the monster blew up

Oh THAT.

Well that's hardly Zack's fault, mainly because they were obviously trying to keep Zack's voice over down (as we know) and he didn't have any leadership importance to take care of like Jason, but also non leaders may not get that much focus in the cockpit and, well, the other 3 had gone to help Tommy, so it makes sense that they wouldn't change camera shots just to focus on Zack.

[Super Jeff]

Your one theory makes sence at least for Zach. Zach and Jason were best freinds prior to the series. It mkaes sence that Zach would stick with his best bud til the end. However for trini, it kind of surprised me as she was more best freinds with Billy and Kimberly. So her hangin out wiht Zach and Jason more seems kind of out of place. But hey its been a while since I really watched season 1 and 2.

[Jiemusu]

Haha interestingly enough, I looked at it differently. I found it bizarre that Billy didn't go along with Trini, and loosely Zack, and didn't really see why him and Tommy became "apparently so close", or what it was that made him and Kim spend more time together before it all happened.

Judging from his expression in Zeo when Jason returns, I presume he must have some kind of mild resentment towards Jason. Or it could be something along the lines of Jason getting the gold ranger powers instead of Billy, and I'm looking too much into it.

[TZMhero]

I just love that Jason randomly took up guitar. Or maybe he uses it as a weapon like FLCL...

[Digifiend]

Of course Billy was disappointed not to able to take the powers himself. It's hardly surprising he wasn't happy - and I guess neither was the actor, considering Yost didn't stay much longer.

[Churly]

I never understood why Billy didn't create his own Ranger powers. He knew that Zordon & Alpha had experience with creating brand new powers, and by Zeo, he was Zordon's #3. Surely by having such a position the three of them could have worked in secrecy.

It also bothered me how childish he got around the time the Gold Ranger showed up, he CHOSE to drop out of being a Power Ranger at the beginning of the Season, it was nobody's fault besides his own.

[bobtherandomguy]

Doesn't mean he didn't have second thoughts later. He didn't expect things to change but suddenly he was stuck in the Power Chamber. It's gotta be hard to give up the power permanently

[Captain Platypus]

Power Rangering is addictive

[Digifiend]

1. Billy needed a power source if he wanted to create his own powers.
2. When he tried to take the Gold Ranger powers, he couldn't because of radiation absorbed in the Command Centre destruction. Consequently, he can never morph again, not even if he manages to repair his Triceratops power coin.

[Churly]

2. When he tried to take the Gold Ranger powers, he couldn't because of radiation absorbed in the Command Centre destruction. Consequently, he can never morph again, not even if he manages to repair his Triceratops power coin.

Production-wise, this isn't a good enough reason. Even though there was a shot of focus of which Billy is taking that shock, it was mainly to add concern of whether he'd live or not.

[Takeru]

tommy made his dinothunder morphers? oh,maybe billy should have searched for the dino gems,who knew that tommy was smarter than billy? and,btw,billy built a teleportation car,a brainswitching thnigymajigure,and communicators?? im sure he could have made morphers

[Captain Platypus]

He can't ever morph again. Not even if he built his own. Whatever happened to keep him from the gold power means no power will synchronize with him again

[bobtherandomguy]

Are you sure. Not like we ever saw him try. I thought it was just Goldy's powers.

[Mr. White]

tommy made his dinothunder morphers? oh,maybe billy should have searched for the dino gems,who knew that tommy was smarter than billy? and,btw,billy built a teleportation car,a brainswitching thnigymajigure,and communicators?? im sure he could have made morphers

Haley made them not Tommy

[Digifiend]

Hayley said something like "Tommy's good with dinosaurs but a rocket scientist, he ain't" - Tommy gets called Zordon 2.0, well Hayley is Alpha 8.

[Jiemusu]

While it's up.

Devin and Cassidy mark Bulk v.2 and Skull v.2 as well.

Hayley is also kinda Ernie v.2 as well.

[Digifiend]

Hayley's like Alpha 5 and Ernie in a single character. You're right about Devin and Cassidy, they were just like season 2 Bulk and Skull.

[Smilodon fatalis]

I can easily see why Billy would have had second thoughts and wanted to become a ranger again. I don't think he is very childish at all, even Billy can be a little short sighted. It would pretty much suck to be stuck in the Power Chamber for long periods. The Chamber is dark and probably pretty cold (Computers and Alpha produce a lot of heat, to protect them just like in a modern server room you'd probably want to keep the Chamber cold, probably in the 60Fs.). Working on those computers and programming new equipment would get so boringly repetitive, even for Billy. Where are the challenges anymore? I have no idea what it would be like to spend long periods around Zordon but I image he would start to feel like an annoying manager. Alpha certainly would drive him nuts though. Alpha adores his human friends and loves their attention so I can see him being a pest. I can see a little bit of rivalry developing at times if Billy wanted to be number 2. It often did seem like Alpha and Billy were not as good of friends during Zeo. Maybe just the 'To much togetherness' effect.

[Captain Platypus]

Haley is Ernie except kind of hot

btw imagining Zordon as played ny Latham Gaines and it's pretty sweet

[Smilodon fatalis]

I mean... Alpha doesn't need sleep, bathroom breaks, and lunch breaks but Zordon might forget Billy does.

"Billy, you can have a break a couple of hours from now. You must work quickly on improving the viewing globe so we can get crystal clear DirectTV HD for 29.99 a month. "

[Jiemusu]

We're talking about a guy that was able to attend all his classes and extra-curricular activities, with full credits, as well as save the environment casually for fun, kick monster *** as a 24/7 call, and still find time to hang around with his friends at the juice bar (or even just the command centre) and train at said juice bar.

In that invisible time Billy managed to slip in under our nose, I'm sure sleep, bathroom breaks and lunch can fit in there somewhere.

[Digifiend]

Maybe that's why he was always missing during the Gold Ranger mystery. Mundane, but it's entirely possible that he just on the toilet or something.

[Jiemusu]

Actually Rocky commented on how Billy looked tired even though he never fought with them anymore.

It's possibly Billy had just woken up shortly before, and was in the dazzled state you normally find yourself in at morning after you get up.

Considering, well, the Turbo powers idea never made it to canon.

That Billy. Sleeping on the job, who does he think he is eh.

[bobtherandomguy]

Billy was slowly dying thats a good enough excuse

[Digifiend]

That was a retcon when he left. He was missing for a few episodes then for his departure, he was played by a much older actor. If he'd stayed into Turbo, that storyline wouldn't have happened.

[bobtherandomguy]

I know its a retcon but it fits his constant disappearances well enough.

[Hears All]

LOL! What are their names??

[Digifiend]

What are whose names?

[Jiemusu]

The actors in the OP, who played Jason, Zack and Trini's doubles, I presume.

[Hears All]

The actors in the OP, who played Jason, Zack and Trini's doubles, I presume.

Yea, it would be cool to do a look up and see where they are now

[decrets]

Also it would be cool to get the names of the people who voiced them.

[mmpr93]

There was definitely still hard feelings between Jason and Tommy in Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie, or so it seemed with Jason saying "now im the ones with the muscles and the power" as he was about to drop Tommy into the fire. It seemed long forgotten in Forever Red however when Tommy was dissapointed that Jason almost didn't show.

[Mugenhunt]

I dunno. They were best of buds in Good as Gold. I think Jason was a little jealous that he lost his powers again, and that got turned by the spell into something darker.

[Digifiend]

Yeah, he was bewitched when he said that. Tommy of all people knows how that feels, so he doesn't hold a grudge.

[Centauroforce]

Also it would be cool to get the names of the people who voiced them.

Well, we know those names. Jason was voiced by associate producer Paul F. Rosenthal, Zack was voiced by sound engineering assistant Joel Rogers, and Trini's voice was done by a woman called Judy, whose last name has never been given.

[Churly]

There was definitely still hard feelings between Jason and Tommy in Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie, or so it seemed with Jason saying "now im the ones with the muscles and the power" as he was about to drop Tommy into the fire. It seemed long forgotten in Forever Red however when Tommy was dissapointed that Jason almost didn't show.

Keep in mind Jason was possessed in T:APRM, and while he may have had initial thoughts when Zordon demoted him, he long since got over it. The Peace Conference probably helped.

[ThunderScore]

Well, we know those names. Jason was voiced by associate producer Paul F. Rosenthal, Zack was voiced by sound engineering assistant Joel Rogers, and Trini's voice was done by a woman called Judy, whose last name has never been given.

Thanks for the info - I'd always thought the actor who played Cousin Curtis did Zack's voice. IIRC, the other voices were pretty hard for me to take. I felt Austin St.John's voice had greatly improved since the early shows, and I recall that the replacement voice was pretty weak. Even knowing some of the circumstances behind the casting changes, the transition still wasn't handled very well, IMO. To address earlier posts regarding Billy - onscreen, the actor sure seemed pretty unhappy by the end...

[Churly]

For some reason the majority hated fake Trini's voice the most. I always felt fake Zack was the worst. "POWR EH-XE! C'MON PURS-HYED!"

[mmpr grove]

I guess if they would of had a semi-proper send off, they could of pulled a BBBB and given them replacment bodies. However someone said, these were extras not actors so nvm.

[zedd_heart_rita]

For some reason the majority hated fake Trini's voice the most. I always felt fake Zack was the worst. "POWR EH-XE! C'MON PURS-HYED!"

It was ridiculous that fake-Trini's voice had a strong Asian dialect when real-Trini spoke English perfectly :P

[PowerOfPink]

funniest thing I've ever seen, I cant stop laughing:x::lol::x::lol:

[gokaiblue]

I think they should've replaced Jason, Zack, and Trini as soon as they said they would leave the show.

[Super Jeff]

I think they should've replaced Jason, Zack, and Trini as soon as they said they would leave the show.

Tommy: "Hey look its our freinds, Rocky, Adam, and Aiesha!"

Billy: "What happened to jason, Zach, and Trini?"

Tommy: "Who?"

[XavierSaintCloud]

It was ridiculous that fake-Trini's voice had a strong Asian dialect when real-Trini spoke English perfectly :P
What are you talking about? Trini's replacement voice-over had perfect English too.

[Jiemusu]

Keep in mind Jason was possessed in T:APRM, and while he may have had initial thoughts when Zordon demoted him, he long since got over it. The Peace Conference probably helped.

These evil spells do not create new feelings out of nowhere. Past spells in the series accelerate something a ranger was already feeling in their subconscious.

Kat felt envious of Kimberly being with Tommy, Rita's spell turned it into pure jealously and anger.

Jason and Tommy's friendly rivalry was turned into a fierce and aggressive competition, where they were prepared to fight each other irrationally.

Kimberly felt uspet that Trini's hobby stall was more successful than hers, so the spell made her extremely nasty and bitter.

Kimberly and Tommy were competing in the school elections, which turned into a fierce btchy competition thanks to Rita's spell.

When the Hate Master made the rangers hate each other, Adam squared up to Tommy saying that "you and I both know I should be the leader".

I could go on...

But basically, Jason's feelings of resentment of the past were still there, and the evil spell accelerated those feelings.


For some reason the majority hated fake Trini's voice the most. I always felt fake Zack was the worst. "POWR EH-XE! C'MON PURS-HYED!"

Strange, I always found Zack's to be the most believable. Ok it wasn't fantastic, it was way off, but it seemed to be the closest or nearest to the original actor's voice than Trini and Jason's doubles were.

Trini's sounded forced and, yes, very fake... but I found Jason's the worst. Trini's voice double wasn't painful. You knew it wasn't her, but it wasn't painful. Jason's... was just a permanent facepalm. Easily my worst.


It was ridiculous that fake-Trini's voice had a strong Asian dialect when real-Trini spoke English perfectly :P

Bizarre, I always found it the other way round. No disrespect to Thuy Trang of course, but her voice double's accent seemed more Americanized to me.


I think they should've replaced Jason, Zack, and Trini as soon as they said they would leave the show.

That would have been a bad move IMO.

It was wierd enough them not hanging around enough anymore when we were led to believe they WERE there.

But to present a storyline that they "vanished over night" for no reason, seems strange.

At least this way, people could have a few episodes to get used to them having a reduced role, before their presence is gone.


Tommy: "Hey look its our freinds, Rocky, Adam, and Aiesha!"

Billy: "What happened to jason, Zach, and Trini?"

Tommy: "Who?"

Lmao.

Ah well... at least we got those 'letters from Jason, Zack and Trini' during the latter half of season 2. At least it acknowledges the rangers didn't totally forget who they were.

[Guardian Legend]

Wow, that's to funny.