TGWTG - Linkara does Power Rangers

[Pharaoh]

Note: sorry if it's been said before, I couldn't find any topic though! And this is not meant to be an advertisement.

Hi there,

Some of you may know of a website called ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.com

If you don't, check it out, it's awesome. For intros, I'd recommend anything from "Nostalgia Critic" and "Bum Reviews" to understand what this site is about.

Anyway, the point is, one of their reviewers (Linkara, the "bad comics" specialist) is doing a series of videos on each season. The good thing is, as he's explaining it in the introduction video, he's gonna do a "serious analysis" of each season.

If you're a PR fan, you should check it out. I certainly enjoyed it.

Click here (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr)

[Charles RB]

Bulk and Skull are held up as the "REAL stars" - and so they should be!

[mustang3173]

Linkara is awesome, atop the fourth wall is great even if you don't follow comics. But his History of Power Rangers (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr) series is an analysis from a guy who stopped watching after space and plans on making an episode of each season.

[Charles RB]

I like his stance on Richie in S2 (http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/04/history-of-power-rangers-mighty-morphin_03.html): "the BLANDEST of ANY character on this show... having watched EVERY episode he's been in, I can't remember a single thing he actually DID besides stand and smile."

Seriously, I keep forgetting he exists.

("Back to the Tommy Oliver Show featuring the Power Rangers")

[Mr. Black]

Hmm, thanks for telling us this. I think I'll watch it.

I've watched some videos on TGWTG.com, mostly Nostalgia Critic, which is freaking hilarious.

[Charles RB]

He just pointed out in the S2 that, in The Ninja Encounter Part 1, Bulk spots the baby stroller in trouble and immediately goes into action. I'd forgotten about that. Considering Bulk and Skull were still troublemakers at the time, that's a pretty interesting bit of characterisation.

[Pharaoh]

I know this is silly but I'm wondering if he's gonna spot the re-use of Grumble Bee in PRIS... just for laughs....or any scene from Zeo's "King for a day" for that matter...

[Hears All]

Im gonna be following this closely

[Archangel]

Easily one of my favorite sites to go to. I mean, they have some of my favorite internet comedians in that website. That Guy With The Glasses as he plays the Nostalgia Critic as well as Linkara and Spoony. I watched the MMPR Seasons 1 and 2 of Linkara's videos and I can't wait to see the others.

[Mr. Green]

May as well keep all of the video links in one post:

Intro: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/19641-history-of-power-rangers-introduction
MMPR S1: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/19701-mighty-morphin-season-one
MMPR S2: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/20124-mighty-morphin-season-two
MMPR S3\MMAR: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/20603-mighty-morphin-three
Zeo: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/21066-power-rangers-zeo
Turbo (both parts): http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/21418-power-rangers-turbo
in Space (both parts): http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/22934-power-rangers-in-space
Lost Galaxy (both parts): http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/23676-power-rangers-lost-galaxy
Lightspeed Rescue (both parts): http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/25817-power-rangers-lightspeed-rescue
Time Force (both parts): http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/08/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers.html
Wild Force: (all parts): http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/11/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers.html
Ninja Storm:
Dino Thunder:
SPD:
Mystic Force:
Operation Overdrive:
Jungle Fury:
RPM:

This will be updated as the rest of the videos are posted.

Bonus stuff:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDf5kOTNQjc

Linkara and JesuOtaku interview JYB: http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-johnny-yong-bosch.html

[Mr. Black]

Here's the link for season 2: http://at4w.blip.tv/file/3438548/

[Mr. Green]

Here's the link for season 2: http://at4w.blip.tv/file/3438548/

Thanks for the link. Post edited.

[Alpha 5]

Awesome stuff, keep us posted :)

[malfion]

This is amazing to watch.

I wonder how often they'll make new ones.

I feel like I'm watching a piece of history.

[Digifiend]

And for the sake of completeness, here's NC's MMPR review:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDf5kOTNQjc

(Useless trivia: The first three letters in the video's ID are JDF, fittingly enough.)lol, the uploader got lucky with that one! :D

[Quark]

I'm not a fan of That Guy With Glasses... this Linkara fellow seems pretty cool though.

[mysticwolf11]

I don't watch every single reviewer on TGWTG, and even so The Critic is far from my favorite. Linkara, though? I come back every week to see his comic book reviews, and the story arc he did recently in AT4W with Mecha-kara was awesome. He's totally worth everybody taking the time to watch.

[mustang3173]

This is amazing to watch.

I wonder how often they'll make new ones.

I feel like I'm watching a piece of history.

He's very good about posting on a weekly basis, at least for ATFW. This being his second show, there might not be new episodes as often. Or maybe I'm wrong.

[DigiRanger]

He's very good about posting on a weekly basis, at least for ATFW. This being his second show, there might not be new episodes as often. Or maybe I'm wrong.

Well, he doesn't have a schedule set up, and the only way I know that is because he said so at RB.


Sentai suits: My apologies, I thought they were using the same suits. Still doesn't explain why no foam dragon shield instead of the clearly-different cloth shield.

Zedd's Boss: Yeah, I was referring to Dark Specter. I always figured he was the head honcho of evil given Divatox's reaction to hearing his name.

Billy's brother: I searched the episode through and couldn't find a single thing that actually said what his relationship to Willy was. I just figured brother because they both wore blue, both were technical geniuses, and the similar names.

Schedule: Sadly there isn't a set schedule in stone for, mostly because it takes soooo long to get through the seasons in addition to my other projects. I admit, I wasn't going to release the first episode so soon, but it accidentally got through to my twitter that it was out and people said they couldn't see it because I had set it on private. Season two I was really excited to get into, so I decided to get it out ASAP. Currently I'm about to start episode 5 of In Space, still needing to recover from the TMNT crossover, which yes, I shall get into, though I'm going to breeze through it as quickly as I can because I need to focus on the main story.

Ranger Qualification: I did debate with myself on who counted as a Ranger, and basically the qualifying factor was whether the word "Ranger" was in their name.

Some seasons are also going to be a problem because of how MUCH I have to say, as a result they may need to be split into two videos so you don't end up loading a forty minute video. 35 minutes is already pushing it.

My own personal experience watching the show was through In Space and a few opening episodes of Lost Galaxy. I've seen Forever Red, Once a Ranger, and the first episode of Dino Thunder. I know about some plot points that are going to come up just from casual reading and research, but of course I don't know all the details until I actually watch them.

[KalishPlosion]

I for one am a HUGE NC fan, and I've only just started watching some of the other stuff on the site. That said, I can't wait to watch these reviews!

[kanatta]

Man, I didn't know what to think when I woke up to eight IM's all linking to the same thing. The (dis)advantage of being the only rangers fan among your group of friends is you hear about anything rangers-related twelve times over XD

Really enjoying it so far, though. Can't wait for him to do S3

[Hears All]

May as well keep all of the video links in one post:

Intro: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/19641-history-of-power-rangers-introduction
MMPR S1: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/hopr/19701-mighty-morphin-season-one
MMPR S2: http://at4w.blip.tv/file/3438548/
MMPR S3:
Zeo:
Turbo:
in Space:
Lost Galaxy:
Lightspeed Rescue:
Time Force:
Wild Force:
Ninja Storm:
Dino Thunder:
SPD:
Mystic Force:
Operation Overdrive:
Jungle Fury:
RPM:

This will be updated as the rest of the videos are posted.

Great idea, please keep this going!

[DigiRanger]

Yeah, also Mr. Green, perhaps his Marvel MMPR#1 should be on that list as well.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/17263-mighty-morphin-power-rangers-num-1

[Pharaoh]

Hey, I hadn't seen this comic review of his. Really cool. Thanks for that.

And he lists the MMPRTM theme as a cover by Buckethead...

[DigiRanger]

And now, Season 3.

http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/04/history-of-power-rangers-mighty-morphin_19.html

[Churly]

I like how he pointed out that by himself, Zedd was only able to defeat the Green Ranger.

Rita by herself destroyed the ULTRAZORD!

[Pharaoh]

"Pitty that macguffin will neeeever show up again"

[SapphireBuster]

Finally! It took him awhile to post S3 after his initial S1 & S2 reviews (which were nearly back to back). I love his views, although I disagree with just a couple of them (Most of which are addressed in his S3 review oddly enough.)

[Lonewolf92]

Um i think he made a mistake cuz saban had to make suites for the ranger he did not use the original zyuranger ranger suites. I remember somebody telling me that the english suites where saban made.

They weren't Saban made Toei gave them extras to use for american footage iirc. But Linkara was talking about the fact that they didn't changing the suits at all to match the new powers. In other words the Rangers still had the dinosaur styled helmets despite the new ninja animal powers.

[MegaBlue]

I thought that the coins were simply an alternate 'fuel' source being used for the existing Ranger powers. It does lend some credence that Ninjor's coins might originally have only provided the Ninja costumes and those powers. Notice how, at times, Ninja Ranger Power is a step between regular powers and regular Ranger powers? At the time, those costumes WERE the Power Rangers. Almost EVERY different group of Rangers introduced to us by that time (the Wild West Rangers, the Mutant Rangers, the clones of the Rangers in Season 1... the obvious exception to this being Zedd's Dark Rangers) had THOSE costumes.

In 1995, there weren't dozens of other Ranger teams running around. There was ONE team: the Power Rangers. Ninjetti powers or not, they used the same costumes because there were only seven different known Rangers - Red, Blue, Black, Yellow, Pink, Green, and White - on Earth.

[DigiRanger]

Finally! It took him awhile to post S3 after his initial S1 & S2 reviews (which were nearly back to back). I love his views, although I disagree with just a couple of them (Most of which are addressed in his S3 review oddly enough.)

Out of curiousity, what are the points that you disagree with?

[Crimson Soul]

Linkara does Zeo (http://at4w.blip.tv/file/3533375/)

[Hears All]

Just finished watching his Zeo video, it was great. I cant wait to see Linkara do the later seasons that dont link together like the Zordon Era

[Alpha 5]

you can tell he isn't looking fondly on turbo lol

[Churly]

It's time for Turbo... I hope he points out how stupid it was for the cast change to happen, and how hideous TJ was as leader.

[detroitpiston]

How exactly was the cast change stupid?

[Mr. Black]

Just watched Zeo, and I thought it was pretty cool. I love this series that Linkara is doing. Can't wait for Turbo!

[Hears All]

How exactly was the cast change stupid?

Stupid is a strong word, I would use something less harsh

1. It gave possibly the best cast in the shows history a terrible send off
2. It happened in the middle of the season
3. TJ was a mediocre leader when you compare him to who came before him, and possibly after
4. The team...sucked, in the end the lost to Divatox, they lost their zords and the command center. It may have been on a technicality that planet where the source of their powers came from fell, but at the end of the day they failed

The best thing to come from the cast change was that Bulk and Skull returned

[Charles RB]

I hope he points out how stupid it was for the cast change to happen

It wasn't, it boosted the ratings.

[Pharaoh]

I didn't even remember Bulk and Skull slapstick-fighting Cogs... that was awesome!

[President Ranger]

3.TJ was a mediocre leader when you compare him to who came before him


Not really. The dude who came before TJ (Tommy) had similar results as Tj. Lost Zords, check! Lost powers, check! Blown up command center, check! Turbo didn't trade up or down in terms of leadership.

[Churly]

Stupid is a strong word, I would use something less harsh

1. It gave possibly the best cast in the shows history a terrible send off
2. It happened in the middle of the season
3. TJ was a mediocre leader when you compare him to who came before him, and possibly after
4. The team...sucked, in the end the lost to Divatox, they lost their zords and the command center. It may have been on a technicality that planet where the source of their powers came from fell, but at the end of the day they failed

The best thing to come from the cast change was that Bulk and Skull returned

QFT

10charlimit

[Digifiend]

Not really. The dude who came before TJ (Tommy) had similar results as Tj. Lost Zords, check! Lost powers, check! Blown up command center, check! Turbo didn't trade up or down in terms of leadership.Yeah, the loss of the Thunderzords isn't all that different to the Turbo fleet's destruction. But to be fair, the rangers had no powers when the command centre blew up the first time. And that was Billy's fault. He should've done the age restoring thing at the Command Centre, not out in the open where Goldar could steal and destroy the power coins.

[Super Jeff]

Well TJ didnt have as much experience as Tommy did, he was still trying to learn to be a ranger.

[bobtherandomguy]

He was a darn fine second in command to Andros as well. Could you imagine Tommy as a subordinate after he had taken over. TJ's the only ranger to actively accept a demotion in rank(aside from Jason but Austin left so it was kinda forced)

[Digifiend]

Jen did too. She was originally leader of the Time Force team, but eventually she let Wes take charge, insisting to Alex that Wes was their true leader. She effectively demoted herself to SIC.

[bobtherandomguy]

Oh yeah her. I guess you could say Taylor too. Not sure how I forgot about them(especially considering its Time Force month)

[President Ranger]

Well TJ didnt have as much experience as Tommy did, he was still trying to learn to be a ranger.

Ehh, i never liked that excuse. For one, because people like to say Andros took on a veteran team but in the next breath they use inexperience as a reason why the turbo's lost, but also because they lost with about 25-26 episodes under their belt. Every new ranger team hits that 25-26 episode mark and yet their "inexperience" never leads to their downfall.

[Digifiend]

Andros was more of a veteran than the Turbos. He and Zhane were probably fighting while the Earth rangers still had the MMPR powers.

[bobtherandomguy]

well if the Zhane thing happened 2 years prior then it would have been about the time of Zeo. You gotta imagine they were rangers for more then a few months

[Digifiend]

Exactly what I was getting at.

[Super Jeff]

On the one hand though compared to Tommy, TJ was prepared to make desisions in the moment. Tommy would have to think, TJ had to choose which option was the best. For example yeah TJ lost the megazords, but he deemed it a necessary sacrifice to help ssave the day.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

TJ clearly still had a plan. Tommy never had any ideas Zordon didn't give him or he presumed Zordon would have wanted. Shadow Rangers NICELY drills this point home. The only thing Tommy knew for certain was "Zordon is always right." That's DANGEROUS if you either lack that mentor or are unwilling to yourself become that mentor. Tommy wasn't Dr. O yet, people.

[Mr. White]

I watched the Zeo and Season 1 videos... Gonna watch the others tomorrow

[Super Jeff]

as well tj never really second guessed himself from what i noticed.

[Digifiend]

TJ clearly still had a plan. Tommy never had any ideas Zordon didn't give him or he presumed Zordon would have wanted. Shadow Rangers NICELY drills this point home. The only thing Tommy knew for certain was "Zordon is always right." That's DANGEROUS if you either lack that mentor or are unwilling to yourself become that mentor. Tommy wasn't Dr. O yet, people.Zordon didn't want him to keep fighting when they were ambushed by Rito - he insisted he could fight on when warned that their powers might be destroyed, and that's exactly what ended up happening. I doubt the Tommy of Dino Thunder would've made the same mistake. Dr O would've known Zordon was right.
"The accelerator is becoming unstable. The flux of power could ultimately strip you of your ranger powers" "That's a risk we'll just have to take" 5:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmeCclVx0TA

[Alpha 5]

Tommy was pretty stuborn back in the day, and was always making the claim even though we don't have our powers we're still the power rangers lol, no your not tommy to be a power ranger one must have powers lol <-I think i heard that from NC's review of the power ranger movie

[Digifiend]

That's the origin of "Once a Ranger Always a Ranger" Ninja Storm didn't have that philosophy though: "We may not be Rangers, but we still have Power! Air! Earth! Water!" - their elemental Ninja powers that is - they admitted no longer being rangers.

[Churly]

I see what people mean when they compare the loss of the Turbo Ranger Zords and the Thunder Zords, in hopes of making TJ look better than people like me make him out to be. Keep in mind though, during the Goldgoyle fight, there were TONS of options still left. Where was Turbo Megazord? Artillatron? Robo Racer? The Red & Blue Sentient Cars (can't remember the names atm)? TJ believing the only way to defeat Goldgoyle was to sacrifice the Rescue Megazord was downright ludicrous! At least in Tommy's case, the only other option was to activate the Mega Tigerzord, but that would have given them a disadvantage as the Zords were transforming, but Tommy had less choices than TJ and STILL didn't just give up. That's the difference between the two fights; TJ gave up, Tommy didn't. Yeah, TJ didn't completely admit defeat to Goldgoyle but he did effectively say "Screw it" to what was the teams strongest Megazord.

Another thing, after the destruction of the Thunder Zords, Tommy remained leader until he left. TJ was instantly demoted. TJ was just the leader for half a whole season. The writers KNEW they made TJ out to be a terrible leader and instantly demoted them. On the Sentai side of things, was there any reason TJ couldn't be Mega Red? Absolutely not! In my opinion, TJ wasn't even SIC during PRiS. Who controlled the Astro Megazord when Andros wasn't? Carlos.

[bobtherandomguy]

The way I see it they followed Andros because TJ did.

[SirStack]

In my opinion, TJ wasn't even SIC during PRiS. Who controlled the Astro Megazord when Andros wasn't? Carlos.

"The Rangers' Leap of Faith" disagrees with you.

[Churly]

The way I see it they followed Andros because TJ did.

Further proving he sucked as a leader. He didn't even fight for the position. It's like he knew he failed as a leader and just let Andros keep control of things.

[Super Jeff]

I finally watched the reviews for the first 3 season reviews. I have to say, i like his analyisis on the series.

[Super Jeff]

Now i don't want to get into things but TJ is the reason why I dislike turbo. He really shine in PRIS as blue. *Nuff Said*

Nah its reasonable. I personally liked him as both.

[AstroProject]

TJ seemed like more of a leader when he left Andros lead. I felt like he was the real leader of PIS. Andros really didn't lead the others most of the times the things he did mostly benefited himself. While TJ made ideas for the team and lead the team more.

Another thing I noticed however is TJ was more than willings to sacrifice one of the Space Zords I forgot which one. Andros wanted to stay but TJ refused and because TJ refused the others refused. More evidence that the others respected TJ more than Andros as a leader.

[Digifiend]

I see what people mean when they compare the loss of the Turbo Ranger Zords and the Thunder Zords, in hopes of making TJ look better than people like me make him out to be. Keep in mind though, during the Goldgoyle fight, there were TONS of options still left. Where was Turbo Megazord? Artillatron? Robo Racer?
Blue Senturion had left earth, and presumably he took Robo Racer with him. Artillatron is a carrier zord - it can't attack on it's own, it just provides Rescue Megazord's weapon.
The Red & Blue Sentient Cars (can't remember the names atm)?Storm Blaster and Lightning Cruiser. As if they'd be any good against a giant monster...
TJ believing the only way to defeat Goldgoyle was to sacrifice the Rescue Megazord was downright ludicrous! At least in Tommy's case, the only other option was to activate the Mega Tigerzord, but that would have given them a disadvantage as the Zords were transforming, but Tommy had less choices than TJ and STILL didn't just give up. That's the difference between the two fights; TJ gave up, Tommy didn't. Yeah, TJ didn't completely admit defeat to Goldgoyle but he did effectively say "Screw it" to what was the teams strongest Megazord.Probably fair to say it would've been destroyed anyway.
Another thing, after the destruction of the Thunder Zords, Tommy remained leader until he left. TJ was instantly demoted. TJ was just the leader for half a whole season. The writers KNEW they made TJ out to be a terrible leader and instantly demoted them. On the Sentai side of things, was there any reason TJ couldn't be Mega Red? Absolutely not! In my opinion, TJ wasn't even SIC during PRiS. Who controlled the Astro Megazord when Andros wasn't? Carlos.The reason TJ became blue was to avoid the whole black guy is the black ranger problem. Andros was probably red because the team cannon doesn't involve him - makes more sense for it to be the four ex-Turbos who use it. Carlos seemed like SIC at times because Black was leader in Megaranger.

[TZMhero]

I figure the others followed TJ a lot more than Andros. Andros was just more or less the leader because Andros had a greater grasp of the technology, and all of the other space travel related goodness. TJ wasn't a bad leader, he just had a cool enough head to know when to step back and let others shine when need be.

[Mr. White]

Saw the other two videos pretty good. Loved it when he said this from the S3 vid "And they most overcome personal issues blah, blah, blah heart of the cards" :p

[Super Jeff]

Saw the other two videos pretty good. Loved it when he said this from the S3 vid "And they most overcome personal issues blah, blah, blah heart of the cards" :p

In america

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Tommy was just like, aw man, we lost our powers. TJ's LITERAL response to losing their entire battle fleet was "too bad." This is a man who still held it together. A man who had wanted to be a Ranger for so many years he just kept rolling with the punches because he was blase to the entire arrangement. The tumultuous early years of these teams were, from TJ's perspective outside of things, THE NORM. Tommy was living inside of them and had emotional investments dashed time and again. I know who I'd rather follow as a leader.

Tommy is a good mentor because he followed Zordon's example (and by the time of Dino Thunder had learned enough of its shortcomings he DIDN'T want the teens to follow in his footsteps of never leaving the life behind -- White Thunder is a brilliant example of that), but he's a pretty awful leader BECAUSE he was Zordon's puppet.

[President Ranger]

The way I see it they followed Andros because TJ did.

Not really. The other 3 rangers have minds of their own and would have followed Andros even if Tj decided not to. Of course this doesn't apply to when they first met, but after the first few episodes when they got comfortable with him they all would have followed regardless of Tj. Especially Ashely who wanted to get in his alien pants.



Another thing, after the destruction of the Thunder Zords, Tommy remained leader until he left. TJ was instantly demoted. TJ was just the leader for half a whole season. The writers KNEW they made TJ out to be a terrible leader and instantly demoted them. On the Sentai side of things, was there any reason TJ couldn't be Mega Red? Absolutely not! In my opinion, TJ wasn't even SIC during PRiS. Who controlled the Astro Megazord when Andros wasn't? Carlos.

I'm probably more critical of TJ than anybody since I don't believe he is as good of a leader and decision maker as others think he is, but with that said, TJ was not demoted. If the turbo rangers still had their powers and Andros came to Earth and lead them against divatox, then yes, TJ would have been demoted. But that's not what happened. They were on Andros's turf, using his powers, sleeping in his ship, and fighting a totally new villain. They joined him not the other way around so there was no demotion.


Further proving he sucked as a leader. He didn't even fight for the position. It's like he knew he failed as a leader and just let Andros keep control of things.

He didn't fight for his position because it wasn't his position to fight for. As I said, he didn't join them they joined him. Andros didn't come in and take over the turbo team but rather they joined the Space team.


TJ seemed like more of a leader when he left Andros lead. I felt like he was the real leader of PIS. Andros really didn't lead the others most of the times the things he did mostly benefited himself. While TJ made ideas for the team and lead the team more.

Another thing I noticed however is TJ was more than willings to sacrifice one of the Space Zords I forgot which one. Andros wanted to stay but TJ refused and because TJ refused the others refused. More evidence that the others respected TJ more than Andros as a leader.

I never get why people say Tj felt more like the leader of PRIS. PRIS was about 42 episodes long and TJ stepped up in a leadership role in maybe 6 of those 42. As for the times when they chose TJ over Andros, it wasn't because they liked TJ as a leader better than Andros. They picked sides based on their opinions on the situation. If Andros had swapped stances with Tj on issues such as Astronema for example, they would have backed Andros.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Nonsense. If TJ had said it they'd have reason to listen -- he wasn't compromised by his feelings for his sister. Andros was.

[President Ranger]

No they wouldn't, it doesn't matter who said it. Ashley, Cassie, and Carlos wouldn't have trusted her regardless because just as Andros was compromised by his feelings for his sister the others were compromised by feeling of hatred. If TJ would have trusted her the others would still have their own personal feelings on the situation. They aren't vegetables. They can think for themselves.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

And yet you feel the need to speak for all of them as if they were a unit. Because you need to prove TJ was incompetent. Fascinating, that.

Andros was emotionally compromised. That's the entire argument TJ made. Fact is, he was emotionally compromised. She DIDN'T know which side she was on. Even Zhane calls him on this during Countdown to Destruction after she was fully turned to the dark side. If TJ hadn't made that argument, someone else would have. If TJ or Zhane had made the argument that Astronema was redeemable, the others would have HEARD OUT HIS REASONING FOR AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT REASON. And in turn, whatever responses they have or arguments they made, positive or negative? Different. That's behavioral science. The argument used on Andros would be irrelevant with TJ or Zhane. The argument used for Zhane would be "thinking with his pants." The argument used on TJ...? Passive, relatively mellow TJ? Yeah, I'd like to see that. Because that scene is not going to play out the same way.

[President Ranger]

How am I speaking for all of them as a unit?

No, that is not the argument that TJ made. First of all, we as fans act like this scene was Andros vs. TJ with the other 3 sitting back waiting to see who they were gonna follow. That's not how it happened. They each individually thought it was a bad idea, not based on Tj thinking it was a bad idea, but rather on their own opinions. Now, in terms of their argument, TJ didn't even make a real argument in terms of why they shouldn't trust her. All he basically said was chain her up. Carlos and Ashley made the real arguments and those arguments weren't because Andros was emotionally involved. They thought it was a bad idea because just yesterday she attacked them and now all of a sudden she wants to help them find Zordon which made them think she was leading them into a trap (so yes, the argument used on Andros WOULD be relevant with Tj or Zhane). It was Astronema's previous actions and the possibility of walking into a trap that had them skeptical not Andros's emotions. You can tell the natural disdain they had for her by the dirty looks they gave her when she was passing out the chains to fool Dark Spector with. Now, if Andros didn't trust her but TJ did why would they feel any differently about their disdain for her and the fact that Astronema just attacked them the day prior and now may possibly be leading them into a trap? What, because TJ is passive and mellow? C'mon now.

[Churly]

To me, there is no TJ Vs Andros thing going on. By PRiS, Turbo2 LEARNED FROM THEIR MISTAKES. You know, I dislike all of PRT.

- Justin sucked.
- Bulk & Skull turning into monkeys sucked.
- Divatox sucked. (Blame this on Carol Hoyt)
- Zordon leaving sucked.
- Alpha 6 & Dimitria sucked.

The only thing that made me still able to stomach PRT was Turbo1. When I heard they were all being replaced, I thought it was a joke, until I saw the footage of TJ & Cassie fighting the Putra-Pods on the advertisement. There was a glimmer of hope, though. I was certain Tonya & Adam were staying around to groom the new Rangers but nope. I mean, seriously! TJ & Cassie CAME FROM NOWHERE! They weren't even heading to Angel Grove in the first place. It's also noteworthy that it's those two I have most problems with. The only problem I had with Carlos was he was a total wimp. In my opinion, Ashley was the only Turbo2 who earned the powers.

The show wasn't a total lost cause for me though, Bulk & Skull were back, thank God for that because the monkey stint was the stupidest thing they did and I'm glad it was short lived.

Then the Phantom Ranger shows up. What was simply a "Mentor of the Mentor" type of character in Carranger, who appeared in few episodes to give Victrailer (Artilatron) to the Rangers, became a forced romance. Not just any forced romance either; a stupid, cliche, pointless, forced romance given to my most hated member of Turbo2: Cassie. Seriously, what did the Phantom Ranger x Cassie thing accomplish?

For some reason, I don't have such a clear childhood memory of the Goldgoyle fight. All I can remember is Turbo Megazord burning up. However, I DO remember being glad the Megazord's were lost. Unlike the Thunderzords, I didn't have anything against them, it was the Rangers I had a problem with. Like I said, TJ still had Turbo Megazord, Robo Racer (Blue Centurion & Dimitria left after the fight), Artillatron (which provided heavy weapons for Rescue Megazord), and the Red & Blue Sentients (which had laser weapons & could fly). There was absolutely no freaking reason for TJ to sacrifice what was the strongest standalone Megazord they had! If Tommy was still leader, I guarantee it would have NEVER happened (Sentai footage notwithstanding).

But enough of this rehashing. When Turbo2 made it to Space, I had to sigh of relief for many reasons. TJ was rightfully demoted (on the WRITING side of things, because there was no reason he couldn't be Mega Red), Space in general was a huge interest of mine, Alpha 6 thankfully got a new voice, that half-pint very prudently decided to stay on Earth, Bulk & Skull was given their most interesting season plot since MMPRS3 and Adam even got to come back for an episode! The only problems I had with PRiS were simply in C2D. I didn't like how Zordon claimed his death was the only option, and that it was STILL for nothing with the coming of Trakeena & Scorpius next season. The Andros & Karone subplot was filled with depth, and it was refreshing to see a main enemy become good, but back to evil!

[DigificWriter]

I addressed this in another thread on another board, but many - if not all - of the issues that exist in Turbo stem from the first half of the season, and are often blamed solely on things like Justin and the campiness of the Sentai footage when they're actually the least of the issue. What causes the problems with regards to Turbo's first half - and an overall poor impression regarding the season as a whole - is a clear lack of direction with regards to storylines, and the abandonment, condensement, or truncation of those storyline elements which do exist. Most of these issues are fixed during the second half of the season, to the writers' credit, but the coherence and cohesiveness of the storyline in the second half of the season, for all of the things that were great about it, only ultimately ends up casting into starker relief the problems with the first half of the season.

Regarding Divatox, she is, quite frankly, one of the most underrated villains in the franchise, and remains the only villain in franchise history who was actually in a position to do something about defeating the Rangers, and it's significant that the only reason she didn't capitalize on the unique position she found herself in is that Dark Specter - someone whom she recognized as having more power than herself and was threfore impressed by - asked her to come to the Cimmerian Planet.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Well, the problems with the first half are the exact same as the problems with the first half of Lost Galaxy -- Jonathan has no idea where to go with the season and he's constantly dashing the plans of the writers to serve a nebulous agenda. With Turbo, to bolster the ratings and increase accessibility. With LG, to parlay the success of Space to greater heights. There's a reason the ENTIRE WRITING STAFF parted ways with the show, and by Doug's own admission even the first half Turbo we got bore no resemblance to what he had written prior to departure. His name was on scripts as a producer and story editor he had NO INVOLVEMENT IN. Doug wanted to sequel Zeo, Jonathan wanted to follow a new direction spawned from T:APRM and emulating Beetleborgs, Carranger barely bends into anything dramatic, and all the while the production staff felt like they were killing time until they hacked Megaranger.

Refocusing the brand to its core elements in the second half was entirely the work of Judd Lynn and sole surviving writer Jackie Marchand (as Derik's essay The Passion of the Chip -- endorsed by Judd himself -- notes). There's no salvaging what a narrative wreck Turbo is, but that's unavoidable. There is NO WAY to sequel that first half in any tenable, salvageable form. It's better to jettison everything and soldier on. This reduces the season as an entity into a complete slapdash, shoddy piece of work but it DOES pull the second half out of the tailspin the franchise had been falling into. Indeed, I may be one of the few fans who truly dislikes Zeo because I feel like it was giving the fans too much of what they wanted with a source Sentai that just could not bend into what the show wanted it to be, but Turbo is the exact opposite problem. It's courting a mythical audience who does not exist while kiddifying a show about a bunch of EIGHTEEN YEAR OLDS WHO HAVE SAVED THE WORLD FOR FIVE YEARS AND ARE GOING ON TO COLLEGE.

[DigificWriter]

^ I never picked up on any narrative disjointedness with regards to LG, so it's interesting to hear you mention that it existed.

Regarding Turbo, if I was going to pinpoint one single issue with regards to the first half of the season, it's the almost-total abandonment of the 'Mellinum Message' storyline elements and the ridiculously poor pacing of 'Passing the Torch', which really doesn't accomplish much other than to serve as a rather anticlimactic 'write-off' to the older characters and cast. That, more than anything else, is what, IMO, ultimately dooms the first half of the season, and creates a situation wherein the season ends up feeling like a 'tale of two shows'.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Scorpius wants the Sabers! He wants the Lights of Orion! We're aimlessly and poorly adapting Gingaman plots in outer space and rewriting entire episodes in post-production!

It AMAZES ME Rangers in Concert sets up the Millennium Message in such an unspeakably poor manner. That this was Doug's ACTUAL plan for the show had it stayed under his stewardship. Especially that the ONE FORCE to oppose this alliance are the Turbos and not the Space Rangers. The casualness of Divatox slowly ramping up her plans and the springing of Dark Specter in the finale of the series we did get is 200% better than the crap we've learned we were going to get.

[Churly]

I'm getting awfully tired of hearing "why" the cast change was done. Whether it helped the ratings or not doesn't matter, Turbo2 were STILL naive, did not earn their powers (except for Ashley), and made very poor decisions against Goldgoyle.

[Digifiend]

They should definitely have introduced TJ, Cassie, Ashley and Carlos in a similar manner to Rocky, Adam and Aisha. TJ and Cassie sprung out of nowhere, while the other two had only been in a couple more episodes. The season 2 trio had a major storyline prior to their becoming Rangers.

[Super Jeff]

Yeah, i kind of loved it how TJ and Cassie came out of nowhere, but it seems like they were put more thought into instead of Carlos and Ashley.

[President Ranger]

did not earn their powers (except for Ashley).

Well to be fair, most ranger teams didn't earn their first powers. Rocky, Adam, and Aiesha did, and a few teams in later seasons did, but most rangers didn't.

[bobtherandomguy]

Yeah what did Jason and the others do. Stand still during an earthquake.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I'm getting awfully tired of hearing "why" the cast change was done. Whether it helped the ratings or not doesn't matter, Turbo2 were STILL naive, did not earn their powers (except for Ashley), and made very poor decisions against Goldgoyle.

I'm tired of hearing you complain with your monotonous axe to grind considering the change succeeded in exactly the way it was slated to, and you carry some childish grudge against the show for replacing tired, pod people versions of once memorable and beloved characters. Yet somehow I manage.

Seriously, Bob's right -- none of them EARNED it. The original team just stood there during an evacuation. The replacements happened to be abducted at the right time. Justin was eavesdropping on a conversation he wasn't meant to hear. Tommy and Kat had missions of redemption, but Tanya even NOTED she was simply chosen by Aisha and was willing to give that subcrystal to Billy. So wow, out of the first six seasons... Two of them EARNED it. Even among the Galaxy Rangers, only Karone had truly earned it for any prior deeds. of the Lightspeeds? Carter, Dana, and Chad. Eventually Ryan on Tommy motivations. That's... A really stupid reason to hate a group of characters. You have a preconceived bias you're making up reasons to validate.

[Churly]

Let's move on from my displeasure at the replacement of the Turbo team, that's not even what I was mainly going for.

Back to Goldgoyle fight, where we will hopefully stay. Why did TJ give up? I said it before, and I will say it again, to sacrifice the teams strongest Megazord when there was still options was a very poor decision. Let's say Blue Centurion left before the fight (which he didn't), let's say Artillatron couldn't do a thing (Heavy Weaponry anyone?), let's say the Sentient Cars were as useless as others make them out to be... THERE WAS STILL THE TURBO MEGAZORD!

Now it may turn out I would have been wrong and that Goldgoyle would have just destroyed both on the spot anyway, but the point I'm trying to make is that TJ gave up too early, and a good leader isn't supposed to do that.

Now should we just agree to disagree and move on? Yes, I was disappointed with the change when it happened but guess what! I LOVE PRiS! By the time Turbo2 entered the Mega Ship, they suddenly charmed me, and I sat through the season with glee enjoying the epic Space battles. And another thing, ASHLEY IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE RANGERS! How about them apples?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

God, am I seriously arguing 'volunteer lifeguard' makes someone deserving of being a superhero?

[DigificWriter]

Churly, I'd like you to explain to me in a completely unbiased fashion how exactly TJ "gave up"? I'd also like you to explain to me - in all seriousness - what YOU would have done differently in TJ's position.

As far as I'm concerned, TJ took a calculated risk; yes, it could've backfired, but 99% percent of real, everyday life is filled with situations in which risks need to be taken and in which said risks could potentially backfire. Credit has to be given to TJ for the fact that he was resourceful enough to come up with a plan - risky though it might've been - pretty much on-the-fly, especially when you take into consideration the fact that he and his team were relatively inexperienced in terms of having faced down major crises.

[Speedbreaker]

Goldgoyle was a ludicrously powerful monster and would've totalled the Rescue Megazord anyway. Really, what SHOULD stick out in fans' minds isn't that the Zords were destroyed, but that TJ thought up a strategy on the fly that defeated an uber-powerful, giant-sized monster WITHOUT any Zords! That'd be like if Tommy had somehow managed to defeat giant-size Rito Revolto immediately after the last scene of Ninja Quest Pt. 1

[Charles RB]

TJ: canonically better than Tommy.

[Hears All]

TJ: canonically better than Tommy.

TJ has not accomplished half the things Tommy has, and he never will

[Quark]

You don't know that for sure!

[Hears All]

You don't know that for sure!

Oh, I forgot TJ is coming back next season as ShinkenRed (sarcasm...I know someone is going to take that literally)

[Quark]

If anything Cassie would come back for Samurai Force. 'It's in her blood,' afterall.

[MMPRfan90]

The reviews were very entertaining and I am VERY much looking forward to his review of Turbo. This may not be popular but I actually like that season. Maybe it's beacause we still had a good chunk of our Zeo Rangers and the team was a team of equals.


The only thing that made me still able to stomach PRT was Turbo1. When I heard they were all being replaced, I thought it was a joke, until I saw the footage of TJ & Cassie fighting the Putra-Pods on the advertisement. There was a glimmer of hope, though. I was certain Tonya & Adam were staying around to groom the new Rangers but nope. I mean, seriously! TJ & Cassie CAME FROM NOWHERE! They weren't even heading to Angel Grove in the first place. It's also noteworthy that it's those two I have most problems with. The only problem I had with Carlos was he was a total wimp. In my opinion, Ashley was the only Turbo2 who earned the powers.WHAT?! Ashely was the only one to earn the power? All she did was help some kids get to safety. TJ and Cassie were actually putting their lives on the line FIGHTING to save Kat & Tommy respectively at two different times. They could've just left them to die but they were brave enough and had enough heart to save them. And Cassie herself could've just left TJ to fight by himself but she had enough honor in herself to not leave him alone.

Here's the battle with the two megazords being destroyed. Mind you before hand, the Rescue Megazord had it's *** handed to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31fHVgFsTuM

[Churly]

I see that once again, my point about how TJ should have called Turbo Megazord earlier, or how he should have called Blue Senturion, or Artillatron, or the Sentient Cars, have been ignored...

[Quark]

I see that once again, my point about how TJ should have called Turbo Megazord earlier, or how he should have called Blue Senturion, or Artillatron, or the Sentient Cars, have been ignored...
Those are indisputable points, I will give you that. Unfortunately there's no real rationale outside of 'it's the footage they had.' Though for the sake of having dramatic zord destruction for the finale, I let it slide. For all we know Phantom Ranger and Blue Senturion were busy. Doing robot stuff.

[Churly]

I admit, I should give the benefit of the doubt due to Sentai footage, but looking at the Zyu2/Dai splicings and the like, it's not impossible they could have written the other Zords in.

[Mugenhunt]

And Tommy should have called in Tor and Titanus when fighting Rito. The fact is that for various reasons, in the heat of battle, choices get made that aren't ideal.

[Digifiend]

Titanus wasn't compatible with the Thunderzords, and if it had gone into battle against Rito, it would probably have been destroyed - the zord carnage was partially caused by a power leak (leaking like a spaghetti strainer, according to Alpha). And the writers were saving it for the season 3 Ultrazord combos. Tor though, fair enough, it wasn't seen again, the whole battle was either spliced or US footage, and it would've made sense for ThunderUltrazord to destroy the other four monsters. Rito though would've certainly fought off even that attack, if the zords didn't self destruct first. Generals fall in the finale, if ever, not on their debut. Of course, Tor would've been destroyed too, but it wouldn't have mattered, since we never saw it again anyway.

[Alpha 5]

I just had to keep pushing that power accelerator, Ayi yi yi lol

[Churly]

What Tommy should have done in the first place was summon the Mega Tigerzord at the start. That's what always bugged me about MMPRS2, they always used the Thunder Megazord! Before anyone plays the Sentai Card, let me say MMPRS2 had tons of Cut & Paste Megazord fights. The Mega Tigerzord can destroy more than one monster in a single shot! It could have easily defeated Rito, Octo, Flea, Stag & Lizzie.

[SirStack]

Before anyone plays the Sentai Card, let me say MMPRS2 had tons of Cut & Paste Megazord fights. The Mega Tigerzord can destroy more than one monster in a single shot! It could have easily defeated Rito, Octo, Flea, Stag & Lizzie.

...The point of the fight was to destroy the Thunderzords, not have the Rangers summon stock footage to defeat the monsters.

[TZMhero]

...The point of the fight was to destroy the Thunderzords, not have the Rangers summon stock footage to defeat the monsters.

Which is the same reason for the Turbozord destruction, but no, people say TJ is a bad leader.

He's not bad, he's just drawn that way!...er...sorry

He's not a bad leader, you guys are just saying he is because of this one fight against an extremely over powered enemy, that he may have chosen to self destruct the rescue zords (with a very Space ball-esque happy sounding self destruct sequence announcer) and lost the Turbo zords, but they did eventually defeat the bastard.

[Digifiend]

The Thunderzord destruction fight was a mix of Zyu/Dai/Kaku footage, and US produced footage (because they weren't destroyed in Dairanger). The Turbo zord destruction scene was pure Sentai footage. By the way, lazy Signalman (Blue Senturion) was a bystander in the source footage! I wonder why Robo Racer wasn't there?
Goldgoyle grows at 3:30 in the first part, but the battle actually starts about a minute later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcED4_9d7OQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vuuY0xevO4

[Charles RB]

I see that once again, my point about how TJ should have called Turbo Megazord earlier, or how he should have called Blue Senturion, or Artillatron, or the Sentient Cars, have been ignored...

And how long are they going to take to turn up, especially when Goldgoyle is thrashing the Megazord so quickly? By the time they turn up, RescueMegazord would already be down.

(Plus, the TurboMegazord would still have been destroyed and so would Artillatron & Rescue Racer, so...)


And Tommy should have called in Tor and Titanus when fighting Rito.

Or at least split the Zords up to make a less obvious target.

[Digifiend]

Linkara didn't research the Reversioning properly. "I'm not watching the same 60 episodes twice. ...quote unquote remastered." Only 32 episodes, as far as we know, and it's reversioned, not remastered. Tsk.

[DigiRanger]

Yay, back to original topic. :)


Linkara didn't research the Reversioning properly. "I'm not watching the same 60 episodes twice. ...quote unquote remastered." Only 32 episodes, as far as we know, and it's reversioned, not remastered. Tsk.

Well to be fair they are the exact same episodes and he may not have read the bit about only doing 32 episodes. Also, the orignial term we got was "remastered", so that was the term he used to describe it, even mentioning that all they did was add sparkles, and I'm sure you have at least seen his rant on the Metallic Armor. Sparkles = bad idea.

[Digifiend]

I've only watched intro, season 1 and season 2 so far, still got to watch the season 3 and Zeo reviews.

[DigiRanger]

Well, not a video, but Linkara said over at RB...


I admit I'm actually a few seasons ahead on viewing... but not very much. Lost Galaxy has been slow going - only just finished the fourth episode last night. Other projects have taken up most of my time, sadly. Plus turbo's going to be two videos because I have so much to cover.

So, we know that where he is in viewing and that Turbo will be two videos.

[Digifiend]

I assume that'll be one for the movie through Passing the Torch, and another for the second half of the season. Only the Zeo one left to watch now, unless Turbo1 gets uploaded.

DigiRanger, I know what you mean about the Metallic Armor rant now, and to be honest, it was a waste of time introducing it anyway. Within half a dozen episodes they lost their powers! The video also raised a good point about the ranger helmets. All Ranger fight scenes were US footage in season 3, even the zord cockpit footage (unlike season 2, which used Dairanger footage for the Tigerzord cockpit). So no reason the helmets couldn't have been changed to the new ninja animals. Except familiarity, but that would be gone within a year anyway.

[Hears All]

He will probably divide the two teams into the two videos

[Digifiend]

Exactly as I said.

[Churly]

He'll probably have a lot to say about the Cast Change. For the sake of all of us, I hope he'll include the positives and negatives (because whether you liked the change or not, you gotta admit there were negatives).

[Digifiend]

Positive - a red ranger who's actually there - Tommy was missing until it was time to morph in most of his Turbo episodes.
Negative - four rangers replaced all at once, two of whom had only debuted an episode before (Tanya had the same problem in Zeo). None of them were given as much pre-Ranger exposure as Kat, Aisha, Rocky and Adam.

[Super Jeff]

so whats his schedule like when he uploads these? is it in a set time frame or does he upload it when he gets the chance?

[Jiemusu]

Lol, that baby chase rant is hilarious.

You can feel the anger rise with every word.

[DigiRanger]

so whats his schedule like when he uploads these? is it in a set time frame or does he upload it when he gets the chance?

He doesn't have a schedule. The reason being that it takes too long to watch a season and compress it down, so they are uploaded whenever he gets done with the review.

[TimeKaiser]

I have not seen and/or heard any of these reviews, and am surprised by how much posting is being done in this thread about them. The way I see the nostalgia critic is that it IS funny stuff but happens to sometimes have moments that just seem to be outright bashing and/or flaming in my opinion. How no one can seem to ever be offended by any of it to any degree in any way, shape or form is beyond my comprehension.

[Digifiend]

He's entitled to his opinion just like anyone is. Doesn't mean we have to agree.

[TimeKaiser]

He's entitled to his opinion just like anyone is. Doesn't mean we have to agree.

I understand, but I still find it quite bizzare that its him getting all this attention. I'd personally prefer an entire thread dedicated to Funaro. (No, I am not bashing or flaming, I am just stating my opinion.)

[DigiRanger]

I understand, but I still find it quite bizzare that its him getting all this attention. I'd personally prefer an entire thread dedicated to Funaro. (No, I am not bashing or flaming, I am just stating my opinion.)

I think you're a little confused, this thread is about Linkara, not Nostolgia Critic
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090118141054/thatguywiththeglasses/images/7/71/Linkara.png not http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090518152526/thatguywiththeglasses/images/d/dc/NC2.jpg

[Quark]

I understand, but I still find it quite bizzare that its him getting all this attention. I'd personally prefer an entire thread dedicated to Funaro. (No, I am not bashing or flaming, I am just stating my opinion.)

Well, the thread is more about using his review as a springboard to launch our own conversations about the seasons. Though personally, I find his reviews interesting just because we're getting an in-depth analysis from someone outside of the fandom (he posts occasionally on RB, but you know what I mean). That really doesn't happen.

[TimeKaiser]

...they're not the same person? -_-;

[MMPRfan90]

Positive - a red ranger who's actually there - Tommy was missing until it was time to morph in most of his Turbo episodes.
Negative - four rangers replaced all at once, two of whom had only debuted an episode before (Tanya had the same problem in Zeo). None of them were given as much pre-Ranger exposure as Kat, Aisha, Rocky and Adam.I would've loved to have seen the characters debut at the beginning of the season ala the "Turbo Remasted" series on YouTube (which I know wouldn't have happened since they weren't 100% sure of the direction of the season at that point) OR they could've left JYB & Nakia on the show as mentors/trainers of the new rangers. There's a gap in between "Passing the Torch" part 2 and "Stictch Witchery" that isn't visited in which we can assume that the Turbo2 rangers were trained by their predecessors, Zordon & Alpha 5, The Blue Senturian and Dimetria & Alpha 6.

[Digifiend]

Turbo Remastered? Never heard of that.

[Churly]

Had Turbo2 had a much better buildup, I probably would have liked them more. The only other replacement that got so rushed was Aisha's, and that was probably because Karan had long since quit. Its one of the reasons I tolerate Ashley a lot more, she had the most buildup. Carlos had buildup too, but only by being a total wimp.

But TJ & Cassie weren't even going to Angel Grove in the first place, missed their bus, had to rescue Tommy & Kat from a Deus Ex Defeat, and bought their way into their powers. Couldn't they have done better than that?

[Quark]

Turbo Remastered? Never heard of that.

It's a project by Zarius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v4mXqMIQs).

[MMPRfan90]

Turbo Remastered? Never heard of that.It's a different approach to the Turbo season that introduces the Turbo2 team at the beginning of the season and have them as full characters while the Turbo1 team are still rangers. Hilary Shepard Turner is also Divatox at the beginning. From what I've seen, it was kinda cool.
http://www.youtube.com/user/heyarnoldsknee


Had Turbo2 had a much better buildup, I probably would have liked them more. The only other replacement that got so rushed was Aisha's, and that was probably because Karan had long since quit. Its one of the reasons I tolerate Ashley a lot more, she had the most buildup. Carlos had buildup too, but only by being a total wimp.

But TJ & Cassie weren't even going to Angel Grove in the first place, missed their bus, had to rescue Tommy & Kat from a Deus Ex Defeat, and bought their way into their powers. Couldn't they have done better than that?I'm still not understanding what your problem with their characters or how they came in is. They saved the lives of two Power Rangers. If it wasn't for them, Tommy and/or Kat would more than likely have been dead. They did more in those two episodes than Ashley and Carlos did in the 2 or 3 episodes they had been in beforehand.

[Churly]

Like I said, Deus Ex Defeat.

Tommy had managed to defeat Goldar unmorphed under numerous occasions, he really couldn't defeat a pack of Putra Pods with the help of Justin & Kat? Goldar was arguably stronger and smarter than those creatures which never should have been created in the first place (especially when the show STILL used the Chromites from Carranger).

[DigiRanger]

Well, now Turbo is done.

http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/05/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers.html

[MMPRfan90]

OH MY GOD!!! Turbo part one was awesome! The rant at the end was amazing! LOL!

[Digifiend]

So many people is talking about turbo and the review has not been done yet.Speak of the devil, lol. :)

Blimey - look what one of the comments says!
Also, I really hate to rub salt in the wound, but I've been told that they were actually considering giving Bulk and Skull powers...several years later. According to the rumors, they would have been the US-original Elephant and Bat Rangers in Jungle Fury, but the plans fell through for some reason or another. Bulk and Skull? In Jungle Fury? That's one I've never heard before.

[Jiemusu]

Bulk and Skull? In Jungle Fury? That's one I've never heard before.
I did recall a wiki rumour once on Skull being the Shark Spirit Ranger, but never one on Bulk.

[Churly]

Ah, great timing... When I see he finally has them up, I got class in 20 minutes and a phone call to make before. I'll have to watch it later this evening.

[JuzoFuwa]

And for the sake of completeness, here's NC's MMPR review:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDf5kOTNQjc

(Useless trivia: The first three letters in the video's ID are JDF, fittingly enough.)

It annoys me how wrong he is? He remembers it so we don't have to? Would help if he actually remembered it correctly.

[Churly]

Gap anyone? GAP!

Well, if you consider Scorpion Rain canon (which I very wisely DON'T), there you go.

[bobtherandomguy]

its the closest thing we are ever going to get to filling the gap officially.

[MMPRfan90]

I like when he screams at the beginning of Turbo pt2



Still they should do something to fill the gap, it don't have to be Scorpion Rain just something. Comics is a good way. Humm, I wonder if disney would do that if they ever make a zeo "remastered" version.Probably not which sucks. It's be awesome if they did a comic or an animated movie. AHH!!! I'm marking out just thinking about it. But I think the only way we'd get something like that is if a lot of fans begged but I don't think the PRU is that big.

[Mr. Black]

Just saw his Turbo review. It was hilarious! I especially lol'd at the ending of part 1. Overall, pretty cool.

[Churly]

The ending of Part 1 summed it all up for me, all that I was b*tching about over the past few weeks. I KNEW he'd point out how undeserving Cassie was of getting the Powers. Unfortunately, he didn't say a thing of Carlos being such a baby, but can't win them all.

[Churly]

Was that the episode where he was forced to do a bunch of things with that little girl? Ah, another one of those episodes that proved he didn't deserve being a Ranger at all, but in his defense, by PRiS, he and the other Turbo2's had matured a lot. Still didn't change him being a jerk though.

[Pharaoh]

Add to that the fact that it came in the middle of the Psycho Saga, and it REALLY looks stupid and out of place. I've always liked "different" episodes (meaning no "monster of the week" but an issue of the normal world that needs intelligent solving) and Carlos on Call was great in that respect, I loved it. But it did little good to the character of Carlos.

[Hears All]

Woooo! Loved the Turbo review! I especially love when they are long and in depth, great job Linkara. I can not wait for him to get to In Space, and specifically the independent seasons in Saban's later half, since IMO in terms of quality, the independent seasons are the best.

[Anza Power]

He better watch his step when reviewing Space, PRIS was pure gold and those who bash it will suffer...*goes and waits in the corner with a bat*

[Hears All]

He better watch his step when reviewing Space, PRIS was pure gold and those who bash it will suffer...*goes and waits in the corner with a bat*

In Space did have flaws. The uncessary team-up with the Ninja Turtles, which happened waaay to early in the season. The beginning was slow, the show picked up when Zhane and the Psycho's appeared

[Digifiend]

And Next Mutation was about to finish for good anyway. The team-up would've been better placed in Turbo - would've given a much better excuse for the baked into a pizza storyline, lol!

[Anza Power]

I thought the TMNT episode was pretty cool, I'm not a TMNT fan and wasn't that hyped up about the prospect but if you'd notice, there's about 0% Sentai footage in it, this is one of the greatest point about PRIS that it used ALOT less Sentai footage than any other season which gave the writers and directors total freedom to do whatever they wanted to do and not be limited by always having to fit your plot to the stock footage you are ordered to do, also the constancy in picture and filming style and quality was also convenient...

[Digifiend]

Actually, a lot of the fights were just tinted to look like alien worlds, and were in fact Sentai footage. That episode won't have used much though, and Countdown to Destruction was mostly US footage, as was any scene involving the Battlizer armour, and the other two team-ups: True Blue to the Rescue and Always a Chance.

[DigiRanger]

He better watch his step when reviewing Space, PRIS was pure gold and those who bash it will suffer...*goes and waits in the corner with a bat*

Actually, I've read that he only has about two complaints: TMNT teamup and Andros's death-reversing tears

[Digifiend]

But if Karone wasn't revived, what would've happened in Lost Galaxy...?

[bobtherandomguy]

The Pink Quasar saber would have gone to one of Onyx' scoundrels and the universe would be doomed

[Churly]

But if Karone wasn't revived, what would've happened in Lost Galaxy...?

Pshh, they would have had a long, LONG time to think of a backup plan. Whether they knew Valerie was going to get sick or not, any production should have a backup plan in mind. It's not like during casting, Valerie was the only one they were interested in hiring.

[Mugenhunt]

But if Karone wasn't revived, what would've happened in Lost Galaxy...?

Ashley, you will be the new Pink Ranger!

[AstroProject]

But if Karone wasn't revived, what would've happened in Lost Galaxy...?

Well there's always Ashley. We know they couldn't get Cassie because she wasn't having it.

[Mugenhunt]

Well there's always Ashley. We know they couldn't get Cassie because she wasn't having it.

And if they couldn't get her, well there's only one obvious choice. Adelle, you're the new pink ranger!

[AstroProject]

And if they couldn't get her, well there's only one obvious choice. Adelle, you're the new pink ranger!

She did say she was the pink ranger during countdown to destruction.

[Hears All]

She did say she was the pink ranger during countdown to destruction.

Some possible foreshadowing? lol

[TimeKaiser]

Can someone remind me who Adelle was?

[AstroProject]

This is Adelle.

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Sa_Sh/Scrubs/season8/scrubs-wright93.jpg

[Mugenhunt]

She ran the Surf Shack, then later changed her name and became a nurse at Sacred Heart Hospital.

[Churly]

You know, I wonder if Bulk & Skull thought that Turbo2 was the Power Rangers all the way from the beginning.

[bobtherandomguy]

it'd be pretty bad if they did considering TJ and Cassie didn't even live in Angel Grove before becoming rangers

[TimeKaiser]

it'd be pretty bad if they did considering TJ and Cassie didn't even live in Angel Grove before becoming rangers

Bulk and Skull could've assumed they had lived in a neighboring city prior to moving to Angel Grove.

[Anza Power]

Actually, I've read that he only has about two complaints: TMNT teamup and Andros's death-reversing tears

How could anyone complain about that? dude that scene was deep, and this coming from a dude with the emotional range of a teaspoon...(10 points if you get the reference)


But if Karone wasn't revived, what would've happened in Lost Galaxy...?

They could always pop-up new characters from out of thin air (like Cassie & TJ), when have you known PR writers to build up anything?


Well there's always Ashley. We know they couldn't get Cassie because she wasn't having it.

I don't understand what you mean by wasn't having it?

[Jiemusu]

I don't understand what you mean by wasn't having it?

I'll give this a shot.

Kendrix was "written out", but her actor Val was still to be credited and paid because she would be returning, and she needed to pay her hospital bills, Patricia (Cassie's actor) either got a bit skeptical because she wasn't being credited "as the pink ranger" in the opening (or rather just credited as an ally, as Karone was), or because she wasn't being credited at all (i.e the intro wouldn't change, but they later changed that when Karone came).

[Anza Power]

^ Ah, IMO then it's a good thing that it happened, no one was more fitting for that role than Karon...

[Mugenhunt]

Kendrix was "written out", but her actor Val was still to be credited and paid because she would be returning, and she needed to pay her hospital bills, Patricia (Cassie's actor) either got a bit skeptical because she wasn't being credited "as the pink ranger" in the opening (or rather just credited as an ally, as Karone was), or because she wasn't being credited at all (i.e the intro wouldn't change, but they later changed that when Karone came).

It's more complicated than that. How you get featured in the credits is based on how you are being paid. Whether you're considered a star, supporting cast or guest starring, according to SAG rules and regulations. It wasn't that "Oh, I'm not going to be in the opening" but "I've been reclassified as supporting cast so they can pay me less? I'm the most senior cast member, I should be earning the most, not the least!" But because Saban decided to continue paying Valerie even for episodes she wasn't in (thus why Kendrix remained in the credits), they didn't have the budget to pay Patricia anywhere near as much as she'd been earning back in Turbo/Space. That's why Karone got put in, because she'd already been supporting cast in Space, and thus it wasn't a paycut in her case.

[Jiemusu]

@Azna Power:I love Cassie as much as the next, er, Cassie lover, but the context had more impact for Karone to have a heel face turn.

@Mugenhunt: I was just typing the basic overview/jist. But I see what you're saying.

[Mugenhunt]

Yeah, though it would have been nicer had that been the plan all along so we didn't get the very awkward "Cassie watches Karone's sacrifice, and then turns tail and leaves the Galaxy Rangers to their doom!" scene caused by the hasty rewrites once they realized Padee wasn't going to stick around.

[Digifiend]

They could always pop-up new characters from out of thin air (like Cassie & TJ), when have you known PR writers to build up anything?Rocky, Adam, and Aisha in season 2, Kat in season 3?

[DigiRanger]

Well, I was just at Linkara's blog and noticed something on his twitter that would tell us where he is.


Sooo, what, Kendrix was just waiting in the lobby of heaven until the end of the series?

So, he has just recently finished LG.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

The Lights of Orion can resurrect the dead. It's why Magna Defender wanted them.

[MMPRfan90]

The Lights of Orion can resurrect the dead. It's why Magna Defender wanted them.That's a good theory,

[Churly]

Good, Linkara is gonna point out how stupid it was to revive Kendrix.

[Mugenhunt]

Man, now I'm having Buffy S6 flashbacks. "I think I was HEA-VEN! The Lights of Orion pulled me out of HEA-VEN!"

[SirGreen]

Good, Linkara is gonna point out how stupid it was to revive Kendrix.

Call me naive who is linkara? i see him around occasionally on the site.

[Alpha 5]

Don't worry SirGreenPower I never really knew who he was either, the first i heard of him was when he was trying to build his dagger prop, then now that he is reviewing the ranger series hes shined more of a light on himself in our eyes

so who is he? a random video uploader/commintator/reviewer lol

I just watched him review JLU act of God it was pretty funny

never read the comic ( i don't read comics) lol but it didn't mater

[Hears All]

Good, Linkara is gonna point out how stupid it was to revive Kendrix.

Agreed. It took away from the significance of the scene, IMO

[Mr. Green]

Somebody go tell Linkara about Saban re-acquiring the rights! :D

[SapphireBuster]

I'm on it! ^-^

(Wonder if he'll mention it in the next video.)

[Digifiend]

He'll certainly mention it in the RPM one I suppose, but that's a while away yet.

[MMPRfan90]

Man, now I'm having Buffy S6 flashbacks. "I think I was HEA-VEN! The Lights of Orion pulled me out of HEA-VEN!"That was one bizarre season along with Angel season 4. What the hell was Joss thinking at the time?

[Quark]

That was one bizarre season along with Angel season 4. What the hell was Joss thinking at the time?

"We could get canceled at any time, let's just roll with it." That's my guess.

[SapphireBuster]

Ok when is space coming out?

After the 2 yr. Anniversary crossover, "Kickassia" is finished on the primary site, TGWTG. So possibly next week.

[DigiRanger]

After the 2 yr. Anniversary crossover, "Kickassia" is finished on the primary site, TGWTG. So possibly next week.

Of course, that is at the ealiest. Right now, I'm just surprised that made it past the swear filter, but glad it did.

[Qarlf]

These review, are pretty good and very funny to listen. I wonder when more are gonna be updated.

[SapphireBuster]

These review, are pretty good and very funny to listen. I wonder when more are gonna be updated.

Hun, do read the thread, it is a wealth of information. ^-^

[Digifiend]

Not before next week Qarlf... :straightface:

[Qarlf]

Gosh that's so long a way oh well just finishing up turbo. Pretty funny what he did about the whole pizza situation.

[Pharaoh]

Yeah... that pizza thing is NEEEVER going to come up again.... never in a MILLION YEARS....... [insert dramatic squirrel here]

[Digifiend]

It'll come up in the Wild Force review I reckon, since it got referenced in Forever Red.

[Pharaoh]

It'll come up in the Wild Force review I reckon, since it got referenced in Forever Red.

Gee, ya think! ;)

[DigiRanger]

Guess what

http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/05/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers_22.html

In other news, he is finished watching 3 episodes of Lightspeed Rescue.

[Hears All]

Guess what

http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/05/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers_22.html

In other news, he is finished watching 3 episodes of Lightspeed Rescue.

Sweet!! I'm gonna watch this later! Thanks for the post!

[Mr. Green]

I only have one gripe about the in Space review: No mention of "Carlos on Call". Really? That was the filler episode to end all filler episodes!

[Cmdr Crayfish]

They were not copied. Word of God.

[Digifiend]

Guess what

http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/05/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers_22.html

In other news, he is finished watching 3 episodes of Lightspeed Rescue.That's earlier than expected, I'll watch it tomorrow. :)

[Speedbreaker]

I'm shocked he didn't seem to understand why the wave spared Zedd or Rita, and seemed to be under the impression that it was the writers' intent to imply that "magic tears" revived Karone. I mean, seriously? I was friggin' 10 when I watched it, and I understood what was going on with both of those scenes just fine.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Does Lewis LISTEN to comments or corrections from his viewers? Would he do retractions? Because the shocking lack of any kind of research being put into this project astounds me.

[Mugenhunt]

You said you were interested in what civilians thought of the show. Well, here you go!

[Mr. White]

Cool gonna go watch it now

[SapphireBuster]

Does Lewis LISTEN to comments or corrections from his viewers? Would he do retractions? Because the shocking lack of any kind of research being put into this project astounds me.

Well, this isn't SUPPOSED to be indepth for the fans who have kept up with the show. This is more or less a larger version of "Legacy of Power" seperated into individual reviews. It's for the people who haven't watched PR in YEARS or have never watched it in the first place. Besides, if he went into more detail (like explaining the mythos) his videos would easily exceed an hour's length on it's own.

[DigiRanger]

Does Lewis LISTEN to comments or corrections from his viewers? Would he do retractions? Because the shocking lack of any kind of research being put into this project astounds me.

You could always talk to him yourself. I'm sure that he would be able to get back to you on it.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I'm under way too much stress to write a respectful but critical letter to someone whose work I genuinely have enjoyed in the past. I'd come across like a know it all douche.

[Pharaoh]

I haven't watch the whole thing yet but I'm glad he mentions the "Go Go Power Rangers" remix that he can't find. Because neither can I and I really love this version for some reason.

[Mr. White]

Watched the video it was cool... showed me how much more awsome Bulk and Skull were than the past seasons.

[Hears All]

I'm under way too much stress to write a respectful but critical letter to someone whose work I genuinely have enjoyed in the past. I'd come across like a know it all douche.

That could never happen :p

[Cmdr Crayfish]

When I have a bad day in this fandom people will excuse it. They know me. I'd prefer not to come across like that to someone who has no idea who in the world I am. I actually respect Linkara. The inequity of knowing who he is and he not knowing who I am understandably leads to that trepidation.

[Hears All]

I can't wait for the independent seasons, since IMO, they are the best in terms of quality

[Anza Power]

I still can't believe he's unhappy about Astronema's revival, that was the emotional climax of the episode...

[Quark]

It sounded like he was mad that tears brought her back to life.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Which baffles me. The tears meant nothing. The wave revived her, but it took longer because she was DEAD.

[President Ranger]

Why did they make Andros's tears look magic and then turn around and give Karone magic tears in LG if Andros's tears weren't really magic to begin with?

[TZMhero]

When people ***** about 'magic tears' in the PRU, that has had so many weird, magical things in it, I wouldn't complain. It's corny, sure, but Andros also had rather plot specific Telekinesis that was just as corny.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I don't think it's stupid, I think it's stupid writing that comes out of nowhere. The symbiotic component is just as meaningless as Belle's tears being what resurrected Beast. No, DECLARING HER LOVE FOR HIM did it. The wave resurrected Karone. Karone's grief resurrected the Warrior. Lewis is watching forty some eps on a weekly basis, so nuance, subtlety, and production stories are apparently slipping past him.

[TZMhero]

I guess you could say it gives the series an odd sort of... story book ending with the tear bringing her back, bad writing or not.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Yes, but telekinesis is a racially learned trait for Karovans. "We have magic tears which revive the dead" would have been unspeakably useful with regard to, oh, say, ZHANE. Or the people infected by Coralizer. To say nothing that telekinesis was explored, noted, and explained by the series. It's a THING. It's a PLOT POINT. The "magic tears" come out of nowhere, are never explained or commented on by anyone, and are CLEARLY A THEMATIC ELEMENT.

(it's far more significant that Karone later possesses the LIFE elemental as the Pink Galaxy Ranger, you know)

[Super Jeff]

Man if he didnt like it how tears brought back Karone, then he will tear OO a new one for Crown's power restoring Mac. (I personally enjoyed both these scenes though)

[HenshinRebel]

Reviving Karone with magic tears bothered me then, And it bothers me now watching C2D in hindsight. Sometimes, I hate the way this show is written.

[Fenix84]

I never, ever thought Andros had "magic tears" when I first saw Karone's resurrection. Actually, I didn't really think about things on the show back then, as much as I do now. But I assumed that it was a one-off thing, maybe a final act of Zordon or something. The way it should be. Magic tears is such a lame idea that I don't know why any fan would push for it over any other viable explanation.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Especially when we've been TOLD by staff there's no magic tears. I ASKED this question to shut people up!

[Fenix84]

I still haven't watched any of Linkara's PR videos yet, although I've been meaning to. Is he seriously going to marathon through every season, even though he stopped following the show way back after PRiS? God help his soul when he gets to the Kalish era. I watched most of MF and OO in the span of two months. It nearly destroyed me.

[HenshinRebel]

I plan on marathoning ALL of Jungle Fury, Over the next month. I just started today with Welcome to the Jungle Part 1. And it was painful. I might not make it out of this alive.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Jungle Fury is the best of the Kalish seasons. Take from that what you will.

[Hears All]

Jungle Fury is the best of the Kalish seasons. Take from that what you will.

I hated Jungle Fury. I think SPD is the best Kalish season, Greg Aronowitz really put a lot of effort into the show

[Cmdr Crayfish]

SPD doesn't count. Bruce was an empty figurehead.

(and I still think SPD is worse than Jungle Fury, because it's terrible, self-contradictory, horribly constructed, outright lies to the audience, has unsympathetic leads... JF aims as low as humanly possible and succeeds)

[HenshinRebel]

I will give Jungle Fury this, It gave us Chip Lynn back. I will give it that. Sometimes I wish Greg was the sole showrunner of SPD. I bet it wouldn't have fallen apart during the second half. I do wonder what Greg would have done if he was the only Executive Producer.

[Super Jeff]

I personally Like SPD it had a good story, characters, and action.

JF like Crayfish said was a low key season and it did well keeping itself that way.

[Hears All]

I don't think we should be rewarding shows for aiming for the lowest possible standards

[Speedbreaker]

Aiming for mediocrity and hitting your mark is hardly praise-worthy, but it's still better than aiming for sweeping, epic grandeur and missing wildly like Frederick Frankenstein playing darts. SPD, Mystic Force and Operation Overdrive all have really ambitious, high-concept premises and settings that lend themselves towards world-building and epic story arcs with real consequences... and then don't really DO anything with them, or if they try to, it's done so incomptetently.SPD was SPACE COPS WHO PATROL THE GALAXY... and it did Earthbound Dekaranger plots, and half-assed, censored Dekaranger plots at that. Mystic Force was WESTERN FANTASY GENRE MEETS POWER RANGERS IN A PARALLEL DIMENSION... and it did Magiranger plots, but with all the focus foistered upon Nick instead of evenly distributed among the Oz siblings. Operation Overdrive was FIFTEENTH ANNIVERSARY SEASON WITH GLOBE-TROTTING RANGERS BATTLING MULTIPLE VILLAIN FACTIONS... and it was Boukenger gone full-******, with even MORE random wackiness thrown in, but unlike MMPR, lacking likable, down-to-earth characters for said wackiness to bounce off of.

Jungle Fury was at least honest up-front that it was gonna be a Gekiranger hack. No overplot, no vast and new setting for the writers to fail to exploit... just "these three Rangers protect this city from Dai Shi. End of story."

[The 2nd Evil]

Why is keeping the season low key a bad thing?

Remember: K.I.S.S.

[SirGreen]

Keep it simple stupid :)

[Super Jeff]

Yeah JF was simple and it felt right that way.

[Crazy Davey]

Jungle Fury was defiantly the best Kalish season. Very underrated in my opinion. It was very simple and didn't try to be something it's not.

Operation Overdrive was the WORST Kalish season. No contest!

[Alpha 5]

I usualy love all power rangers, but there are those seasons that are lacking, or would be low in my favorite lists such as OO

[Crimson Soul]

I apologize if I'm missing your point, but why exactly would using Alpha 6's suit in the movie boost fans? If anything, it would piss off fans. Changing the Alpha costume (that's been around for four or five years) for no apparent reason wasn't going to get more people to see the film or like the film any better.

[Digifiend]

Lost Galaxy is up! :D
http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/06/history-of-power-rangers-power-rangers.html
http://at4w.blip.tv/file/3732132/
http://at4w.blip.tv/file/3732261/

[Alpha 5]

I enjoyed it, I also forgot about the magial tears in this series...it does seem to be a trate commen with the people of Ko-35 lol

[Digifiend]

Those were long. Each part was as long as a PR episode - the earlier ones were about 10 minutes. This one's about 45 minutes total!

[Mr. Black]

lol Photoshop Filter!

[Mugenhunt]

The moon thing is hard to explain, but I would assume that the company or people or whatever that built terra venture, built a dome on the moon to do their practices. Which would explain why the Moon has a frigging SKY!

There were clouds around the Moon Palace. I figure Rita just conjured up an atmosphere.

[Rider Jetfire]

The moon thing is hard to explain, but I would assume that the company or people or whatever that built terra venture, built a dome on the moon to do their practices. Which would explain why the Moon has a frigging SKY!

It's not hard. It's quite simple. In the PRU you can BREATH ON THE MOON. It's that simple.

[Smilodon fatalis]

We could theorize the moon in the PRU has a thin atmosphere like the Galilean Moons of Jupiter but I have to agree there isn't much point in theories about anything space in PR. Space being fundamentally different is just a reality in the PRU, something was different about the big-bang, god, or whatever created it there. I don't know where to start. Not only can you breath is space but its not frigid, distances are much smaller, the Milky-Way itself is tiny, and Jupiter-like gas giants have a surface. All of that is contrary to IRL and just the tip of the iceburg. I know better than to bash and say it was probably a lack of research.

[Qarlf]

I enjoyed the review very much. The rescue was one of the best episode of that season.

[Smilodon fatalis]

I think its more like; ``'Kids don't care to learn that planets like Jupiter don't have a solid surface and infact the pressures on those planets would crush you into a soda can before you got anywhere near the pretty light show clouds. We can just make up stuff and it will be cooler than reality.''

[Rider Jetfire]

Or it's just that in the PRU the universe is not like ours. Their are SO MANY differences. You can breath on the moon. Their was no slave trade. The list goes on and on.

[Mr. White]

Saw the video. Loved the music that played during Trakeena's Training sorta reminded me of The Karate Kid:p

[Hears All]

Saw the video. Loved the music that played during Trakeena's Training sorta reminded me of The Karate Kid:p

That was the whole point lol