Power Rangers Operation Overdrive Discussion

[Fury Diamond]

Power Rangers Operation Overdrive

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(February 26, 2007 - November 12, 2007, 32 Episodes)

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Cast:
Mack / Red Ranger - James Maclurcan
Will / Black Ranger - Samuell Benta
Dax / Blue Ranger - Gareth Yuen
Ronny / Yellow Ranger - Caitlin Murphy
Rose / Pink Ranger - Rhoda Montemayor
Tyzonn / Mercury Ranger - Dwayne Cameron

Questions:
What did you think of the season premiere?
What did you think of the theme song?
What did you think of the OO cast who played the rangers?
What did you think of the Behind the Scenes special?
What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?
What did you think of Miratrix and Kamdor?
What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?
What did you think when the rangers found the first jewel?
What did you think of the Battle Fleet vehicles and BattleFleet Megazord?
What did you think when Kamdor was freed from Miratrix's necklace and the rangers loosing one of the clues to Kamdor and Miratrix?
What did you think when the Rangers got the clue back from Kamdor and Miratrix?
What did you think of Tyzonn, the Drivemax Ultrazord, and the Rangers finding the second jewel?
What did you think of the Fearcats and the Mercury Ranger?
What did you think when the rangers lost the third jewel to Miratrix and Kamdor?
What did you think of Once a Ranger?
What did you think of the Rangers finding the fourth jewel, the Red Sentinel Ranger, and the reveal that Mack was an android?
What did you think Vella and the death of the Fearcats?
What did you think of the end of Miratrix and the death of Kamdor?
What did you think of the death of Moltor?
What did you think of the finale?
What are your favorite episodes for OO?
What were your thoughts on the zords and which megazords did you like most?
Any final thoughts on Power Rangers Operation Overdrive?

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[Mr. Green]

Almost Forgot:

What did you think of the season premiere?

[SirGreen]

I was thinking it was gonna be about the cast so i went for it :p. I went a head and deletedmy other post b4 your question lol

I honestly dont remember much. All i remember is mack was not allowed to become a ranger what so ever. The mansion is interesting reminds me of the batcave but PR style.

[Mr. Pink]

It was different... interesting but very different...

[Hears All]

Almost Forgot:

What did you think of the season premiere?

I enjoyed Rose in a mini-skirt. That was it.

[Huzzah]

Yeah...missed that one...well not really...I just remember Mack wanting to be a Ranger...and Gipetto...I mean his dad said...not happening...

[Super Jeff]

I kind of liked the premeire for the fact it was funny seeing Mac's dad obsessing over being the red ranger.

[jedibloo]

What did you think of the season premiere?

I find it pretty interesting

[nekollx]

Lets see i created a entire AU universe starting with OO, what do you think?

Hint:
I liked it.

[Mr. Underachiever]

Operation Overdrive is the best Kalish season.

Yeah, I said it.

[Thrax]

Almost Forgot:

What did you think of the season premiere?

The Premiere of the PROO as pretty interesthing the new concept for the PR, I liked to see Moltor and Flurious rise of there planet and starts the quest for the Jewels of the Corona Aurora.

[mnikolic]

The. Worst. Season. Ever. I wish it never came to be. Too many plot holes, footage mistakes, script mistakes... The only good thing about this season is "Once a Ranger". But even that wasn't done the way it was supposed to.

[ForeverBlue]

Almost Forgot:

What did you think of the season premiere?

The premiere was pretty good....a good start for PROO

[TZMhero]

Operation Overdrive is one of the best PR series ever. Mack, spoiler alert, being a robot was one of the most interesting parts of the series. It was a recreation of the Pinocchio storyline, and it really showed the idea that... it wasn't until he had already lost his humanity, did he actually cherish it. You have Will, the recovery expert, who has the innate ability to not only be a leader in training, but he's enough of a role model that Taizon takes after him. We have Dax, the man who stands in the shadows of giants, who is never noticed. Then theres yellow and pink.

A great series, if you are able to muscle your way passed the gag reflex.

[rangerfan998]

Ah..OO. The first of two seasons I have only seen half a dozen episodes of because I was so bored I just did not care to continue.

After the pink ranger-ghost pirate episode, I watched the first five minutes of the next episode and just turned it off.

After that I watched "Once A Ranger" and the finale. Looks like I did not miss much. Oh...and I also watched the first five minutes of an episode where the sixth Ranger wanted to be more like Will or something...Yeah I was not impressed.

[President Ranger]

The premiere was good. I actually thought this season was good when I first saw it. What the hell was I thinking.....

[Fury Diamond]

The Season premiere was pretty good. The character introductions had appropriate times. The Crown is stolen in the premiere and not seen till the end of the season. This was a nice touch because the focus went to the jewels.

[Mr. CD]

Operation Overdrive is the best Kalish season.

Yeah, I said it.

Boo! I wanted to be the first to say that. But yeah.

[Digifiend]

Ah..OO. The first of two seasons I have only seen half a dozen episodes of because I was so bored I just did not care to continue.

After the pink ranger-ghost pirate episode, I watched the first five minutes of the next episode and just turned it off.
Yeah, Pirate in Pink was cringeworthy. I still watched the series though, but ultimately, it's my least favourite and I'm in no hurry for a rewatch.

[Fury Diamond]

What did you think of the theme song?

4ef2j0rndrY

[Digifiend]

That's also the worst in the franchise. Why switch to rap when most of the previous themes had been rock?

And this makes no sense: "Five Rangers lookin for the same five stones!" Wasn't five rangers once Tyzonn joined, lol, there's a reason the other themes don't say the number of rangers.

[Super Jeff]

The theme......it was......interesting.....to say the least

[Barracuda]

The theme song was very diffrent. I cant say horrible because it was the first rap theme song for pr. I think.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the theme song?

4ef2j0rndrY

The theme song as cool, and as diferent of the others i liked of that and the Opening as pretty cool but to be honest the first Opening of the PROO reminds me a lot of Sentai because the sound effects thee.

[Huzzah]

Yeah...umm...I don't wanna say I hated it...but...

Forget it...I'll gladly say it...I hated the opening song...

[3zekeial]

The opening still doesn't feel right to me even after i've listened to it soo many times. I think its just so lyrically repetitive that I just don't care for it.

[Thrax]

Operation Overdrive is one of the best PR series ever. Mack, spoiler alert, being a robot was one of the most interesting parts of the series. It was a recreation of the Pinocchio storyline, and it really showed the idea that... it wasn't until he had already lost his humanity, did he actually cherish it. You have Will, the recovery expert, who has the innate ability to not only be a leader in training, but he's enough of a role model that Taizon takes after him. We have Dax, the man who stands in the shadows of giants, who is never noticed. Then theres yellow and pink.

A great series, if you are able to muscle your way passed the gag reflex.

The Story of Mack be a Android a liked to because we never have a Android Red ranger in PR, just in PRT with Robot rangers of the Eltar, and i liked the way pf Disney made the things when Mack finds out he is Android, Mack show up a face of we dont even seen yet, Mack show is Dark Side we wants to made the things in is ways, even sacrifice himself, when he pilots the Flashpoint, when he goes face Moltor in the Volcano as awesome, and when Mack use is all Power to destroyed Flurious in the final battle.

The rangers well are cool but i agreed with you, Will is the expert in monuments and liked to work alone,Tyzoon is the leader of the rescue team with saves the people in the entire universe,Dax is for shore in the shadow of the giants,Ronnie as the girl of the velocity and she is really hot in my opinion Disney always with Blond girls,Rose the Genius child and knows a lot of everthing.

PROO is awesome season in many things and i think is complete diferent of the others seasons, because we dont have a season with sow many evil villans in the same season like OO something with is not use much in POWER RANGERS.

[Digifiend]

What did you think of the theme song?

4ef2j0rndrYEmbedding disabled by request? Somehow I don't think you did request that. :question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ef2j0rndrY

[Mr. White]

Premire was ok... I hated the theme song though. I don't get why they would switch to rap...

[nekollx]

meh i was not a fan of the theme

[Rider Jetfire]

Operation Overdrive is the best Kalish season.

Yeah, I said it.

I would love to hear why. I really do invite someone to give a logical explanation of why it is.


Operation Overdrive is one of the best PR series ever. Mack, spoiler alert, being a robot was one of the most interesting parts of the series. It was a recreation of the Pinocchio storyline, and it really showed the idea that... it wasn't until he had already lost his humanity, did he actually cherish it. You have Will, the recovery expert, who has the innate ability to not only be a leader in training, but he's enough of a role model that Taizon takes after him. We have Dax, the man who stands in the shadows of giants, who is never noticed. Then theres yellow and pink.

A great series, if you are able to muscle your way passed the gag reflex.

Then theres yellow and pink. Best line ever.


But yes, Overdrive is, in my eyes, the worst season of PR ever. Really truly. Watching the series makes me want to gag. Yeah sure, Mystic Force was bad, but at least it had potential. Jungle Fury? RJ. Wild Force? Actually good in my eyes. Overdrive? Lets put it this way

I'd rather watch Saban's Masked Rider. Yeah, I said it.

[Hears All]

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIKE OPERATION OVERDRIVE?!?!?

It is 2012 already?

[SirGreen]

^ lol i was thinking the same thing. I was kinda shocked also.

[Barracuda]

Wow......OVERDRIVE stinks....... It was interesting at first but then the theme song got to me and later on the plot made this noise in my head "zzz...........zzzz......"

[Huzzah]

I'd rather watch Saban's Masked Rider. Yeah, I said it.

But Masked Rider was such an amazing show...okay maybe that's stretching it...actually that's more than stretching it, that's breaking it apart and spreading it to the 4 corners of the world...which is where the 5 Rangers could find them...oh my goodness...the OO Rangers are actually searching for Masked Rider...no...stop them...please...

Sorry...but yeah...Masked Rider or PROO...that's like asking which is better, "Plan 9 From Outer Space," or, "Manos: The Hand of Fate."

[SirGreen]

I think its an awesome plot juuuust not executed well

[Zeno503]

Ok I'll guess I'll be the first daring fan here...I actually enjoyed the theme song. And not just a little, I downloaded it.. Yeah I know the shift in music was an odd one and one that just seemed like PR (or the execs at Disney) were selling out to what they felt was "popular" which is of course rap. But I will say this, I hated it at first but then I had a nice long chat with my good pal Kilian who actually enjoyed the theme and I was flabbergasted. I asked him what it was he liked, and he couldn't really finger it but he summed it up this way, "The power ranger fan in me hates it. But the inner black guy in me think it's pretty catchy". Him being a fan of alternative, hip-hop, and some rap (although he's canadian) he would I guess have a better taste than I do (nothing but metal) and well I listened to it more and more and I began to like some parts about it. Particularly the little trumpet noises, (lack of a better idea of what the instrument could possibly be, maybe keyboard set to trumpet), at around 0:03 into the song and through out the song as well. And also whenever I hear "GO" in any power rangers theme I guess I have to sing along. The theme has a strange sound with the guitar sound still in there but it's quite ignored. I think it sounds nice. The lyrics are what slightly get to me but then again I see this season as the "almost Indiana Jones" type series, looking for the corona aurora and all (although I'm sure good ol' Indy would've found them long before the rangers would). So the lyrics, the first part "Like five fingers reaching for the sky in five ways". What do you have in the skies sometimes throughout the day or night? An Aurora. The Corona Aurora. The five fingers obviously the rangers, and their goal is to find the pieces of it. But it's impossible for a single person to "reach the sky", um I guess not a perfect metaphor for the difficulty finding the jewels, but I feel it's a good one nonetheless. "Five ways" through "Five rangers walking through the sun for five days" they lost me there. I guess they couldn't find a good rhyme and consulted with a Dr. Seuss book. But after I feel the song gets good.

"Dark forces leaving evil where they roam. Five Rangers looking for the same five stones". I wouldn't mind that lyric if they had said something like, "Dark forces wreaking havoc where they roam", or something cause you just don't leave evil lying around the floor, give the guys some credit (although if they had left behind that annoying yeti character I wouldn't have protested). And yeah the five rangers are looking for the same five stones, I mean they're not each assigned a specific stone, at least I believe they don't I didn't get very far with this series, so if the blue ranger happened to find the red stone it's alright cause they're all looking for them. "Go go go go go go go ....*little trumpet noise*" I love that and I don't care (: "There's some treasure to be found, there's some lives to be saved. A planet to look after, there's a WHOLE lot of space", although obvious, it still goes with the theme. They're people recruited for embarking on a journey to find these jewels that can be anywhere around the world and of course they're power rangers so they have to help anyone in need as well. It just fits, although I guess the argument is that the song sounds bad but I don't think a song sounds bad if it fits. And I'll admit the OO theme is a guilty pleasure of mine, I can at least defend why instead of "I hate it cause it's rap".

"Good vs. Evil, we got heroes on the scene. Power Rangers Overdrive is the number one team", *cough RPM is better cough*, they top it off with just a good optimistic, considerably pompous, ending which is "WE'RE THE POWER RANGERS AND WE'RE GONNA SCREW YOU HARD!" I just like it. And I'm probably sure that I'm the only one who will ever post this much about the OO theme song ever in the history of ranger fandom ever but yeah someone who will actually stick up for the theme! Except unless some kid happens to write a really long hate letter about it, then I'll move over.

The series had a lot of potential, I mean really...A LOT! The man basically gathered up the cash and sponsored his own team of power rangers!! THAT'S SO AWESOME! Too bad they suck though... This could've been an awesome, country exploration, action-packed, Indiana Jones, type of ranger series but what we got was a yellow ranger whose weapons were big blocks of cheese and a water gun...

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It took that many paragraphs to defend one lyric in the theme song.

Wow.

[Zeno503]

It took that many paragraphs to defend one lyric in the theme song.

Wow.

Just about every lyric really. Trust me, my friends hate my replies on msn.

[Thrax]

The series had a lot of potential, I mean really...A LOT! The man basically gathered up the cash and sponsored his own team of power rangers!! THAT'S SO AWESOME! Too bad they suck though... This could've been an awesome, country exploration, action-packed, Indiana Jones, type of ranger series but what we got was a yellow ranger whose weapons were big blocks of cheese and a water gun...

That as for shore PROO have much of potencial and i think if dont have just 32 episodes like MF have could be much explore for example the final battles aganst the villans,Fearcats have for shore a epic fall, the others evil villans should happen double episode for example, Two Fallen Foes I,II and Nothing to Lose I,II and Crown and Punishement I and II.

[jedibloo]

Just about every lyric really. Trust me, my friends hate my replies on msn.

you got a good point Zeno. The theme song is interesting because of the rhythm and the lyrics and it has potential of being a good season actually.

[Zeno503]

I'd rather watch Saban's Masked Rider. Yeah, I said it.

Yeesh..even with his companion Furbus? You have bravery my friend..

[Cmdr Crayfish]

The most interesting part of Ferbus is learning that the Monotonmonax language actually MEANS something at PMC.

[jedibloo]

The most interesting part of Ferbus is learning that the Monotonmonax language actually MEANS something at PMC.

that was really cool

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the OO cast who played the rangers?

[Rider Jetfire]

The most interesting part of Ferbus is learning that the Monotonmonax language actually MEANS something at PMC.

Well of course it actually means something, we saw that in show. What are you referring to Chris?

As for the cast....

MACK is A THESBIAN D*** IT. No seriously, I loved how great his performance was, going for that whole gay subtext thing.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

The language actually means something... as in, the performers knew what it meant. At least certain phrases had actual meaning. They put enough effort into it that the language was comprehensible.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the OO cast who played the rangers?

Mack is the son of Andrew Hartford and dreams of one day becoming an adventurer like his father. When he learns of his father's plans to form an elite group of Power Rangers, Mack tries to convince his dad to let him join. Although Andrew is originally opposed to this, Mack shows himself and becomes the team's Red Ranger. Though after an accident which leads to a civilian almost getting hurt, Mack begins to question his importance to the team, the other Rangers show that they rely on him.

Tyzonn is a Mercurian Intergalatic Emergency Responder who rescue people during emergencies. When arriving to Earth, he happened upon Moltor who transformed him into one of his lizard hybrids after denying to join him. In this form, he was forced to retrieve a parchment from the Power Rangers but managed to rip it two. His natural mercury abilities still function while in this form. Mac befriended him and they worked together to stop Moltor. With the help of the Sentinel Knight, the Rangers used the two jewels of the Corona returned Tyzonn back to normal. When asked to join the Rangers, Tyzonn politely declined and went on his own. When the Fear Cats attacked an archeological squad in Brazil, the Rangers came to help, and soon met up with Tyzonn. Tyzonn had a past with the Fear Cats. Tyzonn was once part of a team and they went to a cave where the Fear Cats were said to be in. When the cave collapsed, Tyzonn worried for the safety of their oppressors and sent his team inside.

Will is expert covert spy, Andrew had him break into his own bank in Brazil to test his skills, which impressed Will as well. Will was at first hesitant about believing Andrew and join a team as he said he rather work solo. Once the protector of the Crown came in front of Dax, Ronny, Rose and him and told him it was real, he agreed to have his DNA enhanced. He was stoked to discover his ability to see super far and hear from great distances. He also took a quick shine to Will as he advised him to use his Drive Slammer, a large hammer, to break the ground to let overflowing lava in to save the city when Moltor unleashed it. When Andrew hid the Overdrive Tracker from Mac in his safe, Will used his breaking and entering skills to retrieve it. Ironically, those skills were the very reason Andrew chose Will to be the Black Ranger. On a excursion inside the underwater ruins of Atlantis, Will lack leadership skills and Mac simply told him that he respected him.

Dax is energetic and enthusiatic. Dax was a Hollywood stuntman who had dreamed to be the leading man, not the lowly unappreciated stuntman when he was given the chance to save the world. He was more that thrilled to hear Andrew could make him a Power Ranger but he was going to join with the others when they were leaving because they didn't believe Andrew. Once the protector of the Crown came in front of Will, Ronny, Rose and him and told him it was real, he agreed to have his DNA enhanced.

Ronny is a champion stock car driver. Ronny's energy and fondness for fast vehicles are reasons why Andrew chose her to be the Yellow Ranger. Ronny was at first hesitant about believing Andrew. Once the protector of the Crown came in front of Dax, Will, Rose and her and told her it was real, she agreed to have her DNA enhanced. She was stoked to discover her ability of super speed. She was also excited to pilot the S.H.A.R.C., a high-tech jet, to save Andrew from an island far away. She is always up for a challenge but in the beginning, she only wanted to win.

Rose is a Mensa level genius who studied in Harvard and was working on robotics and other tecnologies in a British university when Andrew contacted her to become the Pink Ranger. Rose is so familiar with computers and technology, that she was able to fully operate Andrew's computer systems in the secret base under his mansion. Rose was at first hesitant about believing Andrew. Once the protector of the Crown came in front of Dax, Will, Ronny and her and told her it was real, she agreed to have her DNA enhanced.

The casting as pretty cool.

[Zeno503]

I liked Mac, and I guess..um...yeah I liked Mac..a little.

And about Ferbus I never knew there was an actual effort with him and his language. But still a little creepy wondering why so much for Ferbus. But you gotta appreciate it, probably a bit more than what I can say about Lerigot..always gurgling..

[Super Jeff]

Mac and Will Were the only real interesting rangers. Mac because of his robotic origins and too bad it wasnt till the last few episodes he became interesting to me. Will had personality, Sure he was a jerk at times, but he was cool, collected and cared about his teammated when he realised he sucked at being solo.

Dax....well he needed a coloring book. Rose was cute and smart but not really intersting. Ronny....needs to join Dax. Tyzonne had an interesting backc story but had no personality.

[Super Jeff]

PROO had a lot of potential, I was getting pumped for the series because every sentai/pr fan kept on saying how good the sentai season was. So I was getting a little excited. I give the series and overall 3/5. Had good moments and the theme, while I dont like it, I dont really hate it either.

[Mr. Pink]

I enjoyed them all but Tyzonn and Will. Rose was quite the step up from the other Disney Pinks (not there were a lot to compare with). Ronny wasn't too bad though her profession combined with her primary zord kind of confused me. Dax was a bit of a downgrade from Dustin and Chip but I still enjoyed him. Mack for some reason was kind of drawn to despite his voice annoying me. Tyzonn I kind of felt was useless and Will I never liked his attitude.

[Rider Jetfire]

The language actually means something... as in, the performers knew what it meant. At least certain phrases had actual meaning. They put enough effort into it that the language was comprehensible.

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

[Fenix84]

The premiere was OK I guess. Far from great or even good, but it set a nice premise where Mack would try to prove himself to his worried father. The rest of the season after that...oh boy. I genuinely believe that Overdrive is the worst TV series ever produced. I have not seen anything worse, in all my years.

[mmpr grove]

Despite space cases being a failure, I like that show far above OO. Even TTAF is better than OO. OO is an unwatchable mess. The characters sucked. The Cast themselves was alright except for the child hateing bastard known has Benta

[Digifiend]

Benta... appropriate name, come to think of it. People who break the law get called bent, or crooked, it's where the word crook for criminals comes from.

Mr. Pink, Ronny's vehicle was a bit of a mismatch for her personality - Will's zord, being based on a formula 1 car, would've been a better fit. The problem was that Ronny's personality is drastically different to her counterpart Natsuki. Ronny loved motor vehicles of all kinds (she was basically a petrolhead tomboy), whereas Natsuki was a childlike amnesiac ditz. Polar opposites. Ronny's two kidnappings make no sense either - both had good explanations in Boukenger, which weren't carried across to Overdrive because Ronny didn't share Natsuki's backstory.

[nekollx]

Benta... appropriate name, come to think of it. People who break the law get called bent, or crooked, it's where the word crook for criminals comes from.

Mr. Pink, Ronny's vehicle was a bit of a mismatch for her personality - Will's zord, being based on a formula 1 car, would've been a better fit. The problem was that Ronny's personality is drastically different to her counterpart Natsuki. Ronny loved motor vehicles of all kinds (she was basically a petrolhead tomboy), whereas Natsuki was a childlike amnesiac ditz. Polar opposites. Ronny's two kidnappings make no sense either - both had good explanations in Boukenger, which weren't carried across to Overdrive because Ronny didn't share Natsuki's backstory.

thats one instance they should have broke from the "keep genders the same" and had yellow AND Black as girls, Rony being black.

Ironicly this would have also removed Will and given us a new Yellow, which to some people would be a boon

[ForeverBlue]

The OO cast were alright but I liked mostly Rose and Ronny.

Rose didn't start to become my favorite until later on in the season. Ronny was my favorite from the start

Mack: No comment lol

Will: A pretty cool guy but not a favorite

Dax: worst

Tyzonn: he was an alright character but a pretty good fighter as Mercury Ranger

[Mr. White]

I pretty much only liked Rose... Tyzonn was ok too.

[Mr. Pink]

thats one instance they should have broke from the "keep genders the same" and had yellow AND Black as girls, Rony being black.

Ironicly this would have also removed Will and given us a new Yellow, which to some people would be a boon

They would never have 3 core females in a team of five...

If they had switched the professions of Yellow and Black I think people would have seen Will as less of a stereotype and Ronny could have been more of a femme fetale would have blended a bit better with Natsuki's pose

[Hears All]

I pretty much only liked Rose... Tyzonn was ok too.

Yea I kind of agree. I only liked Rose...everyone else was bland, IMO

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Rose: the arbitrary skeptic who forgot their mentor was a ghost when it was convenient to be a hardline atheist. When she was an ALIEN MYTHOLOGIES MAJOR. Who then thanked Hartford in the finale for helping her get over her shame at being intelligent when she debuted as a holier than thou jerk who looked down at people who weren't as intelligent as she was.

God, Overdrive was the worst season.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Behind the Scenes special?

[Mr. Pink]

it was kind of nifty

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Behind the Scenes special?

It as something complete diferent because we never been see something like that before of PR season start.

[Jacen Solo]

I never heard of a Behind the Scenes special. Was this something that was only online?

[terrierlee]

Well, seeing as how Operation Overdrive is what got me back into Power Rangers... I would have to say it's my over all favorite season. Yes, it had plot holes, yes the actors weren't always the best, but you know what? I still liked it. I thought it was interesting. The opening aside. Oh man I hated the opening. Possibly the only thing I didn't like about the season.

My favorite Rangers would have to be... Dax, Mack and Rose. For some reason I see them has tight BFFs in my mind.

[jedibloo]

What did you think of the Behind the Scenes special?

it was interesting to say the least

[Digifiend]

I never heard of a Behind the Scenes special. Was this something that was only online?No way. They didn't stream stuff on the PR website until Saban took over again, this would've been shown once and only once on Jetix I bet - wasn't shown abroad, that's for sure. Here's a list of PR specials - it includes several relating to OO, I assume combined they form the special being discussed.
http://powerrangerplanet.webs.com/prspecial.html

[Crazy Davey]

Worst Power Rangers season..... EVER!


Ok, I admit, I enjoyed this season when it first aired, but after rewatching EVERY season last year, I can honestly say, this is my worst season of all time. It truly is hard to sit through. There are some enjoyable episodes... Can't really think of them, at the moment.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?

[ForeverBlue]

They were pretty cool. Stubborn brothers, haha

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?

They are pretty awesome villans.

Flurious is the main villan of the OO season but i think Flurious could be much explore because he enter in the Opening credits and not shows up much in OO, a few time in fact but i liked in the start when Flurious work with Moltor to try to catch the Crown, the battles between them were pretty cool, Flurious show up in few moment in the middle in the season when Mercury ranger join to the OO team.

Moltor is another main villan of the OO plot, and i liked a lot of him they explore a lot of the Moltor because Moltor have much more presence in OO and i liked a lot when he becames rival of is brother Flurious, The battles between Moltor and Flurious are awesome and i liked of thme be rivals and the fact of Moltor have the Crown in the start of the season.

[StormWatcher]

Flurious should have been the main villian, and Moltor should have been one of his generals. That's how good Power Rangers works.

[Thrax]

Flurious should have been the main villian, and Moltor should have been one of his generals. That's how good Power Rangers works.

That could be work and if all villans in OO be generals of the Flurious that could be awesome for shore.

[Mr. White]

I only liked Moltor.. I didn't really like Flurious.

[Hears All]

What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?

I didn't like Flurious...he mustache made him look like a douche

[Barracuda]

What was your favorite and least favorite moment in OO?

[Hellion01]

Least fav...the whole OAR thing where they kept acting like whiny little...(insert any foul mouth word with a s here).

Favorite, none.

[Hears All]

What was your favorite and least favorite moment in OO?

Only mods are supposed to ask the questions

[Mr. Gold]

It's okay, Hears. He can participate with the discussion questions too.

Continue with discussion please.

[jedibloo]

What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?

Flurious is alright. But Moltor was better.

[Thrax]

What was your favorite and least favorite moment in OO?

I liked of the "Once A Ranger"

[ForeverBlue]

My favorite moment: Once A Ranger....

That's pretty much it lol

[Zeno503]

Least Favorite: Once a Ranger
Favorite: I thought the battlizer looked cool

[ForeverBlue]

Sub Zero: During a current monthly season discussion thread...only the purple mods (usually Mr. CD, Overdrive.92, FD and me) or green mods (they generally never do anyways lol) asks questions. Once its done and moved to the sub forum, regular members can ask a question then.

[Super Jeff]

Once a Ranger was probably their best episode next to things not said

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Miratrix and Kamdor?

I've always liked Kamdor. He's was really the only villain in OO to actually be a threat to the team.

[Thrax]

What did you think of Miratrix and Kamdor?

I've always liked Kamdor. He's was really the only villain in OO to actually be a threat to the team.

Kamdor he is a kind of Villan we like to see because he is a really threat for the OO rangers, and i liked when he appears and the battles of have with the rangers when appears for the first time and defeated the rangers very easy, and i liked the rivalty between Kamdor and Will because Kmador always suspect of Will when he joins to the side of evil, and i liked the way of Kamdor make the monsters grow, and the way of Kamdor use Miratrix as perfect, and the final battle between Kamdor and Will as perfect really cool.

Miratrix she is kind of hot, and i liked the way of she show up and tricks Dax to have the relics for the Sword of Neptune, and use Dax, she fights a lot when and as save for Kamdor in another planet, i liked when she decides to make her planes to destroy the rangers but in the end she is just made of Kamdor want, when she uses the power of the Octavian Chalice to have more power and try to destroy the rangers that as cool to see.

[Huzzah]

What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?

They were like bad renditions of the Miser Brothers from a, "A Year Without a Santa Claus."

[DigificWriter]

Didn't have a chance to really participate in the MF discussion, so I'm jumping in here sooner rather than later.

What did you think of the season premiere?
Overdrive is another one of those seasons that had a lot of potential that it ultimately didn't entlrely live up to, although you wouldn't know it from Kick into Overdrive; the premiere starts off very strong in terms of character introductions and the establishment of the season's overall plot and storyline, which is actually incredibly cool on a conceptual level and really set(s) the season apart from its counterparts (both those that preceded it and RPM, which followed it). The episode's pacing is also an improvement over the previous two seasons (Broken Spell isn't really that poorly paced, but, in comparison to KitO, it does start off somewhat slowly).

The episode doesn't really do as much as it probably could have in introducing us to the villains - especially Moltor - and Ranger characters other than Mack (although they do get some pretty substantial character development in later eps), but those are really the episode's only flaws.

What did you think of the theme song?
The theme song is really the only part, IMO, of OO that is an utter failure, and is really the only thing that, ultimately, I would absolutely change if given the chance. It is sad that the theme itself is so atrocious because the visuals that go with it - in terms of the opening - really are pretty neat. I especially like the font that was used and the layout that was chosen for the character credits, since they really fit the overall theme of the season perfectly.

What did you think of the OO cast who played the rangers?
A lot of people - indeed, most of the PR fandom - complain about the talent - or lack thereof - of the OO cast, but, IMO, the only two actors who really didn't bring their 'A-game' as it were - and who felt completely miscast - were Samuel Benta (Will) and Gareth Yuen (Dax). My personal favorite actor out of the group is Rhoda Montemayor, although that is more than likely the result of the love that I have for her character.

What did you think of the Miser Brothers Flurious and Moltor?
I do kind of wish they would have flshed out Moltor's character more (he was the least developed of the two), but I liked the rivalry that the writers established between the two of them, especially since they were able to trace its roots back to the very moment that they initially found the Corona Aurora and were transformed into the creatures they became. Their rivalry and the storyline(s) that resulted were actually one of the best things about OO, and really dovetailed well with the season's overall plot and concept, and reminded me in a lot of ways of the rivalry that was established between Divatox and Astronema (even though that rivalry was more of a background element of PRiS).

What was your favorite and least favorite moment in OO?
I can't really pick a 'least favorite' moment, although I do have three 'favorite' moments: "Pirate in Pink" (I love Rose's character), Tyzonn's introduction arc (Tyzonn is one of my favorite 'sixth Rangers' in the franchise), and "Once A Ranger" (which, although not nearly as good as it could've been, plot-wise, is still a pretty fun episode).

What did you think of Miratrix and Kamdor?
Miratrix and Kamdor, for me, are really the best villains that OO had to offer, and rank among some of my favorite villains from the franchise (along with such characters as Lord Zedd, Lothor, Prince Gasket and Princess Archerina, Astronema, and Divatox, among others). The two characters also provided a nice contrast to Moltor and Flurious.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the theme song?

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How the heck did I not see that question there above the video...d'oh lol

Anyways, the theme song was alright but the scenes was good.




What did you think of Miratrix and Kamdor?

I've always liked Kamdor. He's was really the only villain in OO to actually be a threat to the team.

They were a pretty good villain group.

[Mr. White]

Kamdor was alright... didn't like Miratrix though.

[Barracuda]

Sub Zero: During a current monthly season discussion thread...only the purple mods (usually Mr. CD, Overdrive.92, FD and me) or green mods (they generally never do anyways lol) asks questions. Once its done and moved to the sub forum, regular members can ask a question then.

Ok man, sorry about that.

[Super Jeff]

The brothers were interesting. You kind of feel sorry for Moltor when he turned to his brother but FLurious stroight up killed him.

As for Kamdor and Miratrix. I did like Kamdor's on going rivalry with Will, it was cool. For Miratrix, she was kind of boring....

[Fenix84]

What was your favorite and least favorite moment in OO?

LOL, let me see if I can think of a least favorite moment. Oh wait, I can make a whole list.

1. Will being so monstrously self-centered that he doesn't even feel remorse after almost killing Ronny, or treating her like an abused girlfriend throughout "The Underwater World."

2. Dax letting Miratrix walk out the door with an artifact, then sitting around and moping while his team was in battle.

3. Will getting his own special bike despite not being a Red or Sixth Ranger, and being an egotistic loner who needed to learn more teamwork and humility. Also, he crushes a poor civilian's car with it while goofing off during a fight.

4. Mack going all emo and leaving his team to possibly die in the snow, while he ran back to whine to his dad.

5. Rose acting as an insane "skeptic" who doesn't believe in ghosts despite knowing better and living in the PR universe. Also, she's a jerk and a killjoy.

6. In the same episode, Rhoda Montemayor is put through a bunch of unbelievably corny "pirate" scenes.

7. Also in the same episode, we're supposed to be afraid that a pirate's ghost might be physically harmed.

8. That moment, about halfway through "Pirate in Pink," when I had to stop the video and sit back in my chair with my mouth agape in sheer astonishment at how far my favorite show had fallen.

9. Will (who was clearly a Mary Sue by this point) flirting with the hot villainess and beating up the entire Overdrive team BY HIMSELF. Oh yeah, his undercover operation is a complete failure, and he ROBS A LABORATORY and frees a supervillain for no gain whatsoever. Not that the episode was smart enough to acknowledge these things.

10. Tyzonn's personality flip flopping, including he time that he wanted to be Will of all people.

11. The 15th anniversary special turning out to be yet another abominable Overdrive episode, where the classic Rangers are neglected while the Overdrive team whines and quits in the middle of the crisis.

12. Will Sue stealing the two parter with Ronny's name on it. Sheesh, enough was enough.

13. Will Sue continuing to act like a reckless idiot while getting inordinate amounts of attention in the last episode before the finale, despite that episode being MACK's focus episode. Out of nowhere, Will chastises Mack for being reckless and endangering himself. Which was stupid at the moment that Will said it, but was later justified because...

14. Mack didn't grow one bit after being revealed to be an android (a fact that raises some disturbing thoughts about his "father"), but instead REGRESSED into an unlikably suicidal emo. Which the show only got around to explicitly saying, halfway through the second-to-last episode.

15. Vella magically appearing as Moltor's captive, because the writers suddenly realized that they hadn't done anything to resolve her subplot all season long.

16. Hartford and the Rangers selling out Earth, and indeed the universe, just to temporarily save Mack's butt. Only the bad writing made the Corona Aurora a weaksauce anticlimax, and Flurious went down easier than many regular monsters.

17. During the final fight with Flurious, we see quite possibly the most ridiculous use of Kalishsplosions in the entire Kalish era. Two Rangers grab Flurious and hold him still. Two other Rangers flip over him in slow-mo and fire their blasters at point blank range...somehow MISSING. Meanwhile, massive explosions occur BEHIND the entire group of characters.

18. Mack unnecessarily killing himself to destroy an already-defeated Flurious. That scene was probably intended as a "heroic" sacrifice, although the senseless way in which it was executed completely undermined any heroism. Mack was so suicidal that he killed himself even AFTER he had supposedly made peace with his father. He did not learn to accept himself and overcome. There was NO moral.

19. Rose claiming that Hartford taught her to be proud of herself, when her problem from the beginning of the season was that she was stuck up and had too much pride.

20. Will Sue lying that he had learned the value of teamwork.

[Huzzah]

^ So you're saying you weren't too fond of the series, right? Lol.

[Jacen Solo]

My favorite moment: I'd have to say the zord battle in Part 2 of "Home and Away." It was pretty freaking epic.

[NinjaInGossamer]

What did you think of the OO cast who played the rangers?

Without being completely ripped to shreds, I'd like to say this. I felt happy seeing an intelligent, some what nerdy Pink Ranger and a 'need for speed', headstrong Yellow who liked to race. Maybe its because I felt slightly discouraged that early Yellow and Pink Rangers were limited to the extracurriculars of dance or playing guitar/singing. (Just for me, it was getting a bit old seeing that.)

[Thrax]

What was your favorite and least favorite moment in OO?

When Moltor and Flurious show up and talk and Andrew Harford is there.
Will side by side with Miratrix
Kamdor vs Will first battle
Moltor and Flurious team up aganst the rangers and defeated them
The debut of the SuperDriveMax Megazord
Tyzoon debut in the side of Moltor
Fearcats debut and battle Kamdor and Miratrix and defeated them
Tyzoon hel p the rangers to find the jewel
Tyzoon became the Mercury ranger and joins to the team
Flashpoint Megazord debut
Thor shows up and help the rangers
Will battles Kamdor and Miratrix and lose the jewel for them
The New Fleet of Zords with the name of Battlefleet Megazord
Century Knight battles along side of Fearcats
Mack finds out is a Android and use the new Battlyzer and became The Red sentinel ranger
Crazer returns to battle Tyzoon
Fearcats use the Power of the Octavian Chalice to create Agrios and with Agrios they defeated all there Megazords even the Sentinel Knight is defeated in the battle
Rangers find out where is the new place to find
Rangers battle Miratrix and Kamdor in greece
Miratrix use the Power of the Octavian Chalice to became more powerfull and battle the rangers and is defeated
Kamdor capture Miratrix and put her inside of the Crytal
The Final battle between Kamdor and Will and we see the truth face of Kamdor
Flurious have now the Blue gem and use is power to make the Moltor vulcano unstable
The Battles in the japan between the rangers and Moltor monster
Mack goes to the Moltor lair and they battle inside of Moltor lair
The rangers come to the Moltor lair and save Mack in the last moment
Moltor go to Flurious and offers a Alliance and Moltor bring Vela
Flurious freze Moltor and destroy him and use the Power of the Blue gem to know where are the others jewels
They use power of the jewels to awaken the Guardian
Flurious invade the Mansion of Harvord and the Rangers battle there with Chillers
The rangers give the jewels to Flurious
The Final Battle between the OO rangers vs Flurious as awesome.
Final sacrifice of Mack to destroy Flurious with make him kill himself to finish off with Flurious
All the rangers learn something where they are POWER RANGERS

Something i dont like in PROO !!!
when the rangers lsoe there powers they give uo sow easy

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?

[Mr. Pink]

it was cool to see a few new types of vehicles after how many years of PR

[Thrax]

What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?

The Auxiliary Drivemax Zords are pretty cool and i really liked of the combinations with Drivemax Megazord.

[DigificWriter]

What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?
OO is the first season to utilize the 'auxillary zord' concept where the zords didn't feel completely unnecessary, even though the introduction(s) of some of the zords could have been handled a little bit more effectively and efficiently. For example, as much as I like Pirate in Pink, they really didn't need to use the episode to introduce Rose's Shovel Driver, and should've waited to debut the zord in an episode where it would've actually been needed (like they did with the Drill Driver in the previous episode).

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?


They were pretty cool! I like the Jet alot.

[Digifiend]

They were pretty cool! I like the Jet alot.Sonic Streaker. It was called GoGo Jet in the Sentai - possible veiled homage to Jetman there, lol.

[Fenix84]

What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?
OO is the first season to utilize the 'auxillary zord' concept where the zords didn't feel completely unnecessary, even though the introduction(s) of some of the zords could have been handled a little bit more effectively and efficiently. For example, as much as I like Pirate in Pink, they really didn't need to use the episode to introduce Rose's Shovel Driver, and should've waited to debut the zord in an episode where it would've actually been needed (like they did with the Drill Driver in the previous episode).

How did Overdrive use its auxiliary Zords any better than any other Zord-heavy season? Just like the "Pirate in Pink," "At All Cost" and "Both Sides Now" also introduced new Zords in their third acts with hardly any buildup or previous mention. Their rushed intros made those Zords seem even more disposable to me.

[DigificWriter]

Fenix, you seem to have misinterpreted/misread what I said; I said that the auxillary zords in OO didn't feel unnecessary, which is true. In some of the other seasons that utilized the concept of auxillary zords, it felt like there really wasn't a storyline/in-universe reason for the Rangers to have said auxillary zords. The introductions of some of the OO auxillary zords could've been handled better, like I said, but, given the nature of what the Overdrive team did and the nature of their powers and technology, it made sense that they would have auxillary zords presented/available to them.

[nekollx]

Fenix, you seem to have misinterpreted/misread what I said; I said that the auxillary zords in OO didn't feel unnecessary, which is true. In some of the other seasons that utilized the concept of auxillary zords, it felt like there really wasn't a storyline/in-universe reason for the Rangers to have said auxillary zords. The introductions of some of the OO auxillary zords could've been handled better, like I said, but, given the nature of what the Overdrive team did and the nature of their powers and technology, it made sense that they would have auxillary zords presented/available to them.

Not to mentions all those Auxilerarys could form a seperate MEGAZORD on their own

[Super Jeff]

This season I didnt really care much about the zords. They all seemed kind of.....boring

[Mr. White]

What did you think of the auxiliary Drivemax Zords?

I liked the Streaker.. the others were ok.

[Thrax]

How did Overdrive use its auxiliary Zords any better than any other Zord-heavy season? Just like the "Pirate in Pink," "At All Cost" and "Both Sides Now" also introduced new Zords in their third acts with hardly any buildup or previous mention. Their rushed intros made those Zords seem even more disposable to me.

Well some Auxiliary Zords have good debut like the Sonic Streaker and even the episode of is debut they make a new combination the DriveMax Ultrazord, the auxiliary zords have to debut with sense, because i remember in some episodes, we dont even heard them speak about a new Zord and the rangers call the new Zord, well and in OO happen some zords dont use sow much, The Auxiliary zords combine make the DuoDrive Megazord with just see 2 times in all OO episodes, something i dont like much Megazords with show up few episodes and we never see them again, and we never see in OO The auxiliary Zords combine with Battlefleet Megazord and make new combinations because in Sentai that happens, in some episodes they dont use much of new Zords but in "One Gets Away" they use all zords.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think when the rangers found the first jewel?

[Phoenix Fire]

I kind of expected them to be wrong on what the first jewel was so it was no surprise when they were. I was surprised when they stumbled upon it thanks to Brownbeard. He kind of made it easy for them.

[ForeverBlue]

It was pretty interesting lol

[DigificWriter]

What did you think when the rangers found the first jewel?
The 'bait and switch' approach is kind of cliche and expected, but it made sense in terms of the nature of the episode in question, and completely justified Brownbeard's presence in the ep as more than just a 'filler' character who was there to give Rose a 'crisis of character/conscience'. The only issue I've got is actually something that was pointed out on TV.Com in their Trivia/Notes section, which is that, as a jewel from the Corona, the pearl didn't really make much sense because, in Kick into Overdrive, the jewels on the Corona are all shown to be diamonds or diamond-like in shape. Still, that's a fairly minor nitpick in the grand scheme of things, and is easily forgiven.

[Takeru]

i really wich macks father had been the red ranger,he seemed way more badass and very much like a leader.he reminded me of the "chief",from boukenger.

[Phoenix Fire]

Either way I think Mack being an android would of come out in the open. Plus now we know the real reason Andrew didn't want Mack as Red Ranger. He didn't want him finding out the truth about himself. Mack needed it in order to grow as a person, which I think is why his dad finally gave in and let him keep the Red tracker.

[Digifiend]

i really wich macks father had been the red ranger,he seemed way more badass and very much like a leader.he reminded me of the "chief",from boukenger.Only Sakura, BoukenPink, called Satoru Akashi, Chief (the others used his surname) but yeah I see what you mean - both Akashi and Andrew were clearly inspired by Indiana Jones.

[Phoenix Fire]

I think the whole thing was to satisfy Mack's dream for adventure and awaken the hero inside him.

[Thrax]

What did you think when the rangers found the first jewel?

It as interesthing to see.

[nekollx]

i really wich macks father had been the red ranger,he seemed way more badass and very much like a leader.he reminded me of the "chief",from boukenger.

i thought the same thing which is why he becomes the Orange Ranger in my RiR fic. Andrew really would have made a excelent red if he didn't cave to group preasure

[Thrax]

i really wich macks father had been the red ranger,he seemed way more badass and very much like a leader.he reminded me of the "chief",from boukenger.

I really to see that too, Andrew as Red ranger will be awesome because for shore Andrew will lead the team very well.

[rangerfan998]

Ah...the deep one line discussions this season is inspiring....

[O.92]

Ah...the deep one line discussions this season is inspiring....

The less popular seasons tend to draw very little discussion. The Wild Force thread holds the record for the least amount of discussion I believe.

[Thrax]

The less popular seasons tend to draw very little discussion. The Wild Force thread holds the record for the least amount of discussion I believe.

Lets wait to see with will happens to JF,RPM.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the Battle Fleet vehicles and BattleFleet Megazord?

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Battle Fleet vehicles and Battlefield Megazord?

I think Balltle Fleet vechicles and Battlefield Megazord are awesome, and i liked a lot of them, and reminds me a lot of the Vechicle Voltron force, but Battlefield Megazord is the best of the Megazord of the OO rangers, well it as bad they dont use all footage with Battlefield Megazord because in Sentai Boukenger some of the Auxiary Zords combine with Battlefield Megazord to made others combinations.

[Digifiend]

Battlefleet Megazord, Jay. And Thrax, there was one episode (43) with a new combo we never saw in PR. Dai Voyager Drill and Shovel. It's PR name would've been Battlefleet Megazord Drill and Shovel Formation

http://www.supersentai.com/episodes/2006_boukenger/ep_2006_43/eppic32.jpg

[Thrax]

Battlefleet Megazord, Jay. And Thrax, there was one episode (43) with a new combo we never saw in PR. Dai Voyager Drill and Shovel. It's PR name would've been Battlefleet Megazord Drill and Shovel Formation

http://www.supersentai.com/episodes/2006_boukenger/ep_2006_43/eppic32.jpg

Yh, i rember that, and i think the others to Zords of the Battlefleet go to the Drivemax Megazord

[Fenix84]

Fenix, you seem to have misinterpreted/misread what I said; I said that the auxillary zords in OO didn't feel unnecessary, which is true. In some of the other seasons that utilized the concept of auxillary zords, it felt like there really wasn't a storyline/in-universe reason for the Rangers to have said auxillary zords. The introductions of some of the OO auxillary zords could've been handled better, like I said, but, given the nature of what the Overdrive team did and the nature of their powers and technology, it made sense that they would have auxillary zords presented/available to them.

Two seasons did the auxiliary Zord thing before OO: WF and DT. WF had tons of Zords for various animals. DT stated in its first few episodes that Tommy and Mercer's experiments had been scattered after the destruction of the island that they were working on. Those were in-universe reasons for the extra Zords. Hartford's rich and made more than a few Zords? That's not a better reason for any extra Zords than other seasons.

[Jacen Solo]

What toys were on the market where the Overdrive zords were concerned? Did they sell the auxilliaries as well, and could they connect to form the SuperDriveMax/Ultrazord/DualDrive?

I'm with the few who did enjoy the theme song immensely, by the way. I didn't like it at first, but it really grew on me. The opening credits, too (especially the final batch) were really cool. I always love the shot of the DriveMax riding the BattleFleet, slashing the Sentinel Sword.

By the way, what would that particular combination have been called, if it had actually been named in the series? Or was it just Operation Overdrive Arsenal?

[Takeru]

worst intro song ever,way worser than MF or RPM.btw,have any of you heard the demos that had been made earlier for the season started? here they are if youd like to hear them.i preferibly like the one that goes"were here to save humanity",lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXmbj7vb6b8

[Thrax]

I'm with the few who did enjoy the theme song immensely, by the way. I didn't like it at first, but it really grew on me. The opening credits, too (especially the final batch) were really cool. I always love the shot of the DriveMax riding the BattleFleet, slashing the Sentinel Sword.

By the way, what would that particular combination have been called, if it had actually been named in the series? Or was it just Operation Overdrive Arsenal?

I really liked that a lot too, The Opening is pretty cool, I really loved the shot of the DriveMax riding Battlefleet with Sentinel Sword is reallly awesome, and they use that combination in the "Crown and Punishement" when battle Flurious in the final battle.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think when Kamdor was freed from Miratrix's necklace and the rangers loosing one of the clues to Kamdor and Miratrix?

[Thrax]

What did you think when Kamdor was freed from Miratrix's necklace and the rangers loosing one of the clues to Kamdor and Miratrix?

The way of Kamdor as freed of the Miratrix necklace as cool, because is thanks to Will ideia the rangers tricks Miratrix and Kamdor in the same time, and the firsth battle between Kamdor and the ranger is pretty awesome with the OO rangers defeated really easy and the battle between Wiil vs Kamdor as cool for shore, they way of the rangers lose one of the clues to one of the jewels as cool because that will lead to the events of the "Face to Face" where Tyzoon will show up.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think when Kamdor was freed from Miratrix's necklace and the rangers loosing one of the clues to Kamdor and Miratrix?

It was pretty cool and interesting to see what happens when the ranngers loose one of the clues.

[TZMhero]

What if... Thrax simply lied about who he was? he could simply have been someone of evil power that did in fact fight sentinal knight, and may have even had a staff much like Zeds, but then when he was released, he told the baddies in Overdrive he was Rita and Zed's kid for... I dunno, street cred.

[Thrax]

What if... Thrax simply lied about who he was? he could simply have been someone of evil power that did in fact fight sentinal knight, and may have even had a staff much like Zeds, but then when he was released, he told the baddies in Overdrive he was Rita and Zed's kid for... I dunno, street cred.

That could be something very diferent, One villan who made all OO villans made a Evil Alliance are deceived by some a villan with use a name of the Villan with is know by Miratrix and for shore over others galaxies and places, well can be possible but i dont see much a villan with no one know use some kind of scheme

[DigificWriter]

Two seasons did the auxiliary Zord thing before OO: WF and DT. WF had tons of Zords for various animals. DT stated in its first few episodes that Tommy and Mercer's experiments had been scattered after the destruction of the island that they were working on. Those were in-universe reasons for the extra Zords. Hartford's rich and made more than a few Zords? That's not a better reason for any extra Zords than other seasons.

That's the thing; the DT Rangers were told to find the other Dino Zords simply because Tommy had created them; that's a pretty poor excuse for having extra Zords (oh, BTW, I created a bunch of other Zords, so go find them and they'll help you out). It didn't make senes within the context of the story, especially since they showed up out of nowhere many times and were hardly ever used.

WF did a better job of incorporating its auxillary Zords into the storyline, although there were a few instances where it didn't make sense for the Rangers to have found the extra Zords that they did at a given time (encountering the Giraffe Zord is one such example). The way that OO handled the auxillary zord concept wasn't perfect, but it also didn't have any of the problems that WF and DT did.

[Fenix84]

That's the thing; the DT Rangers were told to find the other Dino Zords simply because Tommy had created them; that's a pretty poor excuse for having extra Zords (oh, BTW, I created a bunch of other Zords, so go find them and they'll help you out). It didn't make senes within the context of the story, especially since they showed up out of nowhere many times and were hardly ever used.

Tommy was creating an entire army with Mercer. Morphers, foot soldiers (T-drones), his own monsters (Fossilador), vehicles, and Zords. How does this not make sense?


The way that OO handled the auxillary zord concept wasn't perfect, but it also didn't have any of the problems that WF and DT did.

"Hartford created an entire fleet of Zords with his own money, in 6 months, underneath his house without his son or anyone else noticing" is not anymore sensible than any other season. I'm not even seeing any reason here. It basically is just Hartford creating the Zords by himself, in an incredibly short period of time.

It sounds to me as if you're making up reasons to praise this season.

[nekollx]

I always presumed Hartford used his company to make the things in a double blind. One section does the fly wheel, another the slide panel, another the keys, etc. Same with Zords. He drew up blueprints then had different divisions making different parts.

[DigificWriter]

Tommy was creating an entire army with Mercer. Morphers, foot soldiers (T-drones), his own monsters (Fossilador), vehicles, and Zords. How does this not make sense?

There's no logic - in terms of the way the auxillary Dino Zords were introduced - for them to be part of the Rangers' arsenal; they're just 'there'; even if there was valid in-universe reasoning behind why Tommy and Mercer created them, none of that was actually incorporated into the storyline in terms of their introductions and usage.


"Hartford created an entire fleet of Zords with his own money, in 6 months, underneath his house without his son or anyone else noticing" is not anymore sensible than any other season. I'm not even seeing any reason here. It basically is just Hartford creating the Zords by himself, in an incredibly short period of time.

It sounds to me as if you're making up reasons to praise this season.

You're not seeing the distinction behind my comments. With DT and, to an extent, WF, a lot of times there wasn't any 'story logic' behind the inclusion/introduction of auxillary Zords for the Rangers to utilize as part of their arsenal. Many times, the inclusion of auxillary Zords felt like a 'deus ex machina' designed to bail the Rangers out of situations that they really didn't need to be bailed out of. In many of the early seasons, everytime the Rangers got a new set of Zords or other additions to their arsenal, the presence of said additions/new Zords was explained through in-story/in-universe logic that made sense. A good example of this would be the introduction of the Rescue Zords and Mega Voyager from Power Rangers Turbo and Power Rangers in Space, respectively. Although some of the auxillary Zords in Overdrive were introduced in a fashion that was very haphazard, for the most part the season returned to the concept of providing plausible in-universe/-in-story logic in terms of the way that the introduction of new technology/Zords/weapons was introduced. The fact that, out of all of the new Zords/new tech that was introduced over the course of Overdrive's 32 episodes, there were only 3 instances where in-universe/in-story logic was absent makes the way that the season handled the introduction of its new Zords/technology/weapons a success overall, and makes it more of a success overall than Dino Thunder and, to a certain extent, Wild Force.

[TZMhero]

I always presumed Hartford used his company to make the things in a double blind. One section does the fly wheel, another the slide panel, another the keys, etc. Same with Zords. He drew up blueprints then had different divisions making different parts.

Or he made Spencer make the things.

[Huzzah]

Or he made Spencer make the things.

That was one useful butler I tell you what.

[Hears All]

That was one useful butler I tell you what.

Spencer vs. Alfred Pennyworth

Who would win? I say Alfred

[Quark]

Alfred was part of the SIS. On the other hand, Spencer has many disguises.

[Thrax]

In DT and WF the auxiary Zords are good introduced, in OO that not work very well because the number of the episodes are 32 episodes, and in WF,DT they have much more time for put new Zords in the show, and in OO the new Zords are introduced very fast and dont even have possible a proper plot for the debut of the New Adicional Zords in OO, in some moments in OO some new Zords have good introduced.

[Huzzah]

Spencer vs. Alfred Pennyworth

Who would win? I say Alfred

Alfred, hands-down, he hangs with the freakin Batman, man.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think when the Rangers got the clue back from Kamdor and Miratrix?

[Thrax]

What did you think when the Rangers got the clue back from Kamdor and Miratrix?

When the rangers recover the clue from Kamdor and Miratrix as cool because they they rangers use a new weapon the Transtek armor and we see Kamdor and Moltor fight the rangers join forces together aganst the rangers.

[Jacen Solo]

It was fun to see Moltor and Kamdor go at it; with so many villain groups around it was only a matter of time before that happened. My problem was that Kamdor just never seemed to be as much of a threat as he was in his first appearance. And the Transtek seemed like little more than a toy the Rangers got to use. Heck, Will even suggested the Rangers draw straws for it once.

[Thrax]

It was fun to see Moltor and Kamdor go at it; with so many villain groups around it was only a matter of time before that happened. My problem was that Kamdor just never seemed to be as much of a threat as he was in his first appearance. And the Transtek seemed like little more than a toy the Rangers got to use. Heck, Will even suggested the Rangers draw straws for it once.

Well Kamdor is not really such great threat like Flurious and Moltor, they are really much big threat together.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Tyzonn, the Drivemax Ultrazord, and the Rangers finding the second jewel?

[Thrax]

What did you think of Tyzonn, the Drivemax Ultrazord, and the Rangers finding the second jewel?

Tyzoon as pretty awesome character i liked a lot when he show up and fights in the side of Moltor but he is not like the others Moltor minions, and i liked he helps the rangers to battle the monster.

The Drivemax Ultrazord is pretty cool reminds me a lot of the PRIS when Mega Voyager combines with MegaWinger, but is final strike is really cool, and is really massive when battles the Monster.

The Quest for this second jewel is pretty fast but i think becames really better when Moltor wants the jewel to, and make Tyzoon to help him in change of is deal with Moltor and we see is past and he fights Moltor in another planet because Tyzoon is not join forcs with Moltor, but Moltor transform Tyzonn in a monster and for some reason too, the suit reminds me a lot of the Predator, but the plor for this second jewel is cool but is very fast to find this one, because Tyzonn help them, and Tyzonn returns to is Mercurian form with the power of the two jewels.

[O.92]

lol, "What did you think of Tyzonn" drew only one response in 36 hours. Talk about popularity.

[Digifiend]

Overdrive's an unpopular season...

[Fenix84]

There's no logic - in terms of the way the auxillary Dino Zords were introduced - for them to be part of the Rangers' arsenal; they're just 'there'; even if there was valid in-universe reasoning behind why Tommy and Mercer created them, none of that was actually incorporated into the storyline in terms of their introductions and usage.

So there's no logic, even though you just stated the logic. They do nothing for the story, even though entire B-plots or even mainplots are written around the Rangers finding the auxiliary Zords.


You're not seeing the distinction behind my comments. With DT and, to an extent, WF, a lot of times there wasn't any 'story logic' behind the inclusion/introduction of auxillary Zords for the Rangers to utilize as part of their arsenal. Many times, the inclusion of auxillary Zords felt like a 'deus ex machina' designed to bail the Rangers out of situations that they really didn't need to be bailed out of.

They didn't just get the Dimetrozord, they had to fight the Dimetrozord. The Stegozord was not pulled out at last minute; Haley had to go get it, and its surfboard function actually fit the ocean theme of that episode. The Rangers also had to battle evil Trent for the Ankylozord. So no, these weren't deus ex machina gifts to the Rangers.


In many of the early seasons, everytime the Rangers got a new set of Zords or other additions to their arsenal, the presence of said additions/new Zords was explained through in-story/in-universe logic that made sense. A good example of this would be the introduction of the Rescue Zords and Mega Voyager from Power Rangers Turbo and Power Rangers in Space, respectively.

They were introduced as preexisting Zords built by some established character on the show. How is this any different than Tommy's experiments?


Although some of the auxillary Zords in Overdrive were introduced in a fashion that was very haphazard, for the most part the season returned to the concept of providing plausible in-universe/-in-story logic in terms of the way that the introduction of new technology/Zords/weapons was introduced. The fact that, out of all of the new Zords/new tech that was introduced over the course of Overdrive's 32 episodes, there were only 3 instances where in-universe/in-story logic was absent makes the way that the season handled the introduction of its new Zords/technology/weapons a success overall, and makes it more of a success overall than Dino Thunder and, to a certain extent, Wild Force.

...so basically, they had more Zords because Hartford built more Zords. That's the "story logic" to you that you hold above other seasons? No, that's not anything special compared to what we always see. You keep insisting that Overdrive did something special when it repeatedly keeps boiling back down to "Hartford built a lot of stuff." How is that in any way better than "Tommy and Mercer built a lot of stuff?" And as I've said before and as you don't even dispute, Overdrive's new Zords were poorly introduced. The fact that they were often pulled out in the third act of their introductory episodes with hardly a previous word spoken about them is something I count as a big negative.

[Fenix84]

lol, "What did you think of Tyzonn" drew only one response in 36 hours. Talk about popularity.

I guess I'll say something about Tyzonn. His introduction arc were the first episodes of Overdrive that I would actually consider "good" instead of "so so" or the more common "complete crap." I liked how they started with a little mystery about who he was, and what that shattered jewel he was carrying around was supposed to mean. He had a "mission" that wasn't immediately explained. He also came across as a likable guy who really wanted to help people.

Of course, Overdrive being Overdrive, it was all squandered. The shattered jewel was just a regular jewel...from his girlfriend. Wow, what a stunning revelation. His mission was merely "capture the Fearcats." His girlfriend wasn't introduced until far later in the season, and they couldn't even be bothered to show her being rescued in a plausible way. No, Vella just turns up in Moltor's possession in the second to last episode without the slightest explanation. And Tyzonn, who was supposedly so tortured and mission-oriented, turned into a flip-flopping goofball who wanted to imitate Will. Or was that to score chicks, which I assume to be the reason why he liked being the Mercury Ranger? By "Once a Ranger" Tyzonn was so shallow and self-centered that he quit on the fight just because he wasn't getting the glory anymore. Completely disregarding Vella and the Fearcats, who suddenly became important again later in the season.

[Super Jeff]

tyzonn was an interesting character, but to bad after his debute he had no personality and the acting was bad.

[Hears All]

Tyzonn was boring just like the rest of the season

[terrierlee]

Ty was cool at first. And then he was just... there D: I can recall him having an episode with everyone except Dax. Which... is sad.

[Mr. Pink]

I thought he was a waste of a spandex suit... and had the personality of the styrofoam/cardboard that made up the US Green Ranger Dragon Shield...

[jedibloo]

I always think Tyzonn was ok but his ranger suit was cool.

[ForeverBlue]

Tyzonn was an alright character as a ranger. He did fight pretty good as the mercury ranger.

Drivemax Ultrazord was pretty cool.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Fearcats and the Mercury Ranger?

I think the creepiest thing about that two-parter was seeing Norg dragging the Fearcats' dead bodies.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Fearcats and the Mercury Ranger?

I think the creepiest thing about that two-parter was seeing Norg dragging the Fearcats' dead bodies.



The Fearcats one of the most evil villans in OO,The battle between Kamdor and Miratrix vs Fearcats as really cool, Fearcats defeated really easy them too, i liked thme a lot the battles between the OO rangers versus Fearcats are pretty amazing and really well done, the story about the connection between Fearcats and Tyzoon past is really because they are old rivals and have few battles in the past,The gyros are pretty cool, Fearcats with Gyros Power became really cool there new cyber form.

Mercury rangers is pretty cool the suit is awesome and is zord as cool The Flashpoint Megazord.

[ForeverBlue]

The Fearcats were pretty cool.

As for the Mercury Ranger...the suit is cool and he was a pretty good fighter

[rangerfan998]

My only memories of the...Mercury Ranger is it?....is him wanting to be like Will and his lame "When will they stop?!!!?!" trying to be all dramatic about something....

[Digifiend]

Oh yeah, with that stupid wig. Cornrows on a white guy, not a good look.

[Rider Jetfire]

Tyzonn was neat. I liked the part where he tried to be black.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think when the rangers lost the third jewel to Miratrix and Kamdor?

[Thrax]

What did you think when the rangers lost the third jewel to Miratrix and Kamdor?

I liked too see the ranger lost the third jewel for Miratrix and Kamdor it as cool really, i liked too see the battle between Will vs Kamdor and Miratrix and with that Will lost the jewel and decide to leave the OO rangers, The plot with the Super Armor it as cool we see with that many new Megazords Configurations.

[TZMhero]

What did you think when the rangers lost the third jewel to Miratrix and Kamdor?

I cried it was so touching. I will always miss the Pink Ranger... what was her name? Jane? I'll call her Jane. Jane was such a great pink ranger. She had that power of...um... dancing well? No wait, that was red. She could... swim fast? no. I know, she had thunder yells. If all else fails YELL REALLY LOUD. WITH THUNDER BABY!

In all seriousness though, I didn't see that part... and I wasn't exactly engrossed in the story of OO, so I didn't care.

[Digifiend]

lol, is Rose that unmemorable?

[nekollx]

lol, is Rose that unmemorable?

Damn invisibility power.
What was the name of the Black and White Rangers in DT, Bob and Alex? Right?

[TZMhero]

Alex was the first Time Force red dude. You best Represent!

[Hears All]

But...but...Rose was hot :(

[Mr. Pink]

But...but...Rose was hot :(

And she wasn't the dumb blonde/ valley girl persona of previous pinks either

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

[TZMhero]

The color of Bridge's aura power being dictated by what color clothes he decided to wear that day was a nice twist.

[rangerfan998]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

Worst team-up ever!!!!

[Hears All]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

Amazing, I loved it, it featured some of the best Disney Era Rangers, and brought back Adam

Fans dislike it for all the plotholes, but I like it because they are trying to do something for the fans, I just appreciate them taking that extra step

[rangerfan998]

Amazing, I loved it, it featured some of the best Disney Era Rangers, and brought back Adam

Fans dislike it for all the plotholes, but I like it because they are trying to do something for the fans, I just appreciate them taking that extra step


Now if they had just come up with a good story....

[Hears All]

Now if they had just come up with a good story....

Power Rangers is a children's show

What kind of story do you want? This isn't CSI

[rangerfan998]

Power Rangers is a children's show

What kind of story do you want? This isn't CSI



Weak excuse...

[Thrax]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

Once A Ranger it as pretty awesome, i likes of the Thrax ideia of the join all OO villans and created a Evil Alliance reminds me a lot the Old Evil Alliance of the Dark Specter,the battles between the villans and the OO rangers are pretty awesome, and see Sentinel Bring back old Power rangers are cool make connection with past Disney Era and with Saban Eras it as cool to see that, and the "OO rangers give up just because dont have powers that thing i dont like".
The Battles between the Retro rangers and Chillers are cool and with each ranger we heard diferent theme, it as sad dont heard the them of the Adam of the MMPR, i liked to see the continuation of the story of the Corona Aurora about the sword Excelsior,see the Retro rangers use the Megazords of the OO rangers it as cool, Mack saves the Retro rangers it as funny with the Sword, See each ranger Morph individual it as cool and the final battles are very awesome.
The final scene reminds a lot of the Old MMPR.

[Hears All]

Weak excuse...

When has Power Rangers ever had a good story? As a franchise PR is very poorly written, at it's best it achieves mediocrity, the only reason it was so successful was the fights and the actors who brought some life to what they were given. When you expect some sort of deep, intricate storyline you will be disappointed. These stories are supposed to be entertaining to children, and OAR was good enough for them. Bad guy shows up and gets beat in giant fight

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

Once a Ranger was a really good anniversary team up. It was great to see Adam return including Tori and Kira :D

[President Ranger]

When has Power Rangers ever had a good story?

Once a ranger was 2 episodes. We've had many stand alone episodes and multi parters in PR that had great stories.

[Mr. Pink]

it was good... kind of wished there was 6 retros... kind of wish there was a pink considering the overdrive color scheme matched mmpr pretty well

[Thrax]

it was good... kind of wished there was 6 retros... kind of wish there was a pink considering the overdrive color scheme matched mmpr pretty well

it will be awesome 6 Retro rangers but in my opinion i think will someone of the WF, i think will be cool see there Merrick.

[Mr. Pink]

Time Force would have been cool too.. I think Lightspeed (Carter, Ryan), Time Force (Jen, Eric) or Wild Force (Alyssa, Taylor, Merrick) would have been the best options but with the past issues with the WF cast's solidarity with the crew I doubt they would have used on.

[Digifiend]

Yeah, the sixth would've probably been Merrick or Alyssa, but there was no way any of the WF cast would agree to do it, cost wasn't the only reason we had no NS-WF team-up.

[Fenix84]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

This was a horrible team up, and a disgrace to the PR franchise. I appreciate that they tried to link Thrax to the show's most iconic villains, but all of the links were done in such lazy way. For example Thrax isn't even onscreen when we hear that he's Rita and Zedd's son. None of the characters react to that as if it was important instead of tacked on. Adam doesn't say a word about it at all. You'd think that near the end of part 1 of the big two-part anniversary special, the heroes would be put in peril to hype up the supposedly big threat. But no, that's not what happened, even though the son of Zedd had united all of Overdrive's villains for the first time to find the Crown of the Gods. Instead, the returning veteran Rangers were so successful that the story wasn't even concerned anymore about IF the Rangers could beat the evil alliance. No, the cliffhanger at the end of part 1 is...

The Overdrive team acting like a bunch of brats and quitting because they were jealous of the veteran Rangers. Seriously, who in their right mind thought that was good? The Overdrive team had already established itself as stupid and self-centered in many previous episodes. I didn't need to see that pattern repeated in the anniversary team up, which should've been a celebration of 15 years of Power Rangers. The Overdrive team embarrassed themselves once again, and worse they sapped the momentum out of the story and took time away from the veterans. I wanted to see past and present Rangers working together to save the world from a huge crisis, not Will, Rose, and Dax quitting and moping around AGAIN. The fate of the world was at stake - yet these Overdrive Rangers were just concerned about how THEY felt. Sorry, but that doesn't get a lot of sympathy from me.

[jedibloo]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

it was really cool to see some of the rangers from NS-MF help out the Overdrive rangers. although there were some plotholes that never been explained but all that matters is that they stop evil. plus the ending reminds of what happen to MMPR first episode ending.

[Mr. Pink]

Yeah, the sixth would've probably been Merrick or Alyssa, but there was no way any of the WF cast would agree to do it, cost wasn't the only reason we had no NS-WF team-up.

My money's on Merrick... considering 3 females would have been unlikely

[Mr. White]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

It wasn't perfect.. but it was still good.

[nekollx]

It wasn't perfect.. but it was still good.

I blame the Vetran Rangers, rangers have had their powers disabled before. They came in so quick the Overdrive team didn't get the chance to bound back and heck the Sentinel Knight even brushed them off, after all he is the one who said "They are your replacements!"

[Digifiend]

My money's on Merrick... considering 3 females would have been unlikelyGood point. I said those two based only on colours - we had a red, yellow, blue and black already.

[Thrax]

The Overdrive team acting like a bunch of brats and quitting because they were jealous of the veteran Rangers. Seriously, who in their right mind thought that was good? The Overdrive team had already established itself as stupid and self-centered in many previous episodes. I didn't need to see that pattern repeated in the anniversary team up, which should've been a celebration of 15 years of Power Rangers. The Overdrive team embarrassed themselves once again, and worse they sapped the momentum out of the story and took time away from the veterans. I wanted to see past and present Rangers working together to save the world from a huge crisis, not Will, Rose, and Dax quitting and moping around AGAIN. The fate of the world was at stake - yet these Overdrive Rangers were just concerned about how THEY felt. Sorry, but that doesn't get a lot of sympathy from me.

I agreed with you about the OO rangers they act like kids when the Retro Rangers take there places, because for example when the scene The rangers are in the living room the rangers act they just want to be know because they are POWER RANGERS, and Tyzoon tell the most thing important "POWER RANGERS is to SAVE THE WORLD", well i think they dont want to be put outside of the Mission but we see they just Give up when the Retro rangers take over there places.

[YellowAccel]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

I like this team up. It's relly good to see the retro rangers. The choose of the retro rangers is perfoect for me. The story is not perfect but it's nice to see something made for the fans. Forever contains some problems in the script (like the zeo power) and it's not why this team up is bad. Truly is the only thing I liked in this season.

[Thrax]

I like this team up. It's relly good to see the retro rangers. The choose of the retro rangers is perfoect for me. The story is not perfect but it's nice to see something made for the fans. Red forever contains some problems in the script and it's not why this team up is bad. Truly is the only thing I liked in this season.

The choise of the Rangers is truly good but i think should be 6 Retros,well like you tell even Forever Red have is problems for shore,OaR is two episodes and FR is just want i thing maybe the fans like much of FR is because make connections with past Saban seasons like All Red Rangers of the Saban shows,Megaship,Alpha and the Generals of the Fallen Machine Empire bucause we know PRZ dont have the proper finale, but if for example the Venjix of the FR, it as the Venjix of the RPM will be awesome for shore because that will make a continuation for the PRZ and FR, because we can tell oficiale the PRZ ends in PRWF with FR, but i think the Once A Ranger made a really good work because we see a few connection,some fans speaks about the plot holes,but i think we dont have to see Thrax in MMPR to have to believe they exists, because mayve even Zedd and Rita can possible leave Thrax with MasterVile and maybe MasterVile give is grandson to be rise like a Truth evil villan and maybe found the Sentinel Knight in is way and happen the battle of Thrax tell the others OO villans in the Backstory but i liked the connection of they made between Flurious,Moltor and Thrax because both are punished by the Sentinel Knight, something i think for example will be more cool if they could be put the 2 Teams vs Thrax but first the beat the others OO villans,well Sentinel Knight beat Thrax i dont like, i think should be the rangers destroy him, and in my opinion with should be happen next of this in OO it as The Villans of the OO should be continue with the Evil Aliiance and Flurious as leader that will be awesome to see in OO.

Another thing should be happen
Thrax should be survive and stay and possible lead the Evil Alliance to final battle aganst the rangers, will something really diferent.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Rangers finding the fourth jewel, the Red Sentinel Ranger, and the reveal that Mack was an android?

[Digifiend]

iMack is Pinocchio v2.0

[ForeverBlue]

Mack being an android was pretty shocking.

The Battlizer for Mack was pretty good too....he used that alot (8 times I think)

[YellowAccel]

For robot mack i think it's original and surprising.

[Fury Diamond]

What did you think of Once a Ranger?

I enjoyed the episodes, but I do have a couple of rants.
* Thrax - They could've had a better villain. The Rita/Zedd's kid concept was good, but the costume design was terrible. His personality wasn't as hardcore as Zedd.
* OO Rangers Quitting - This was plain sad. The whole concept of "Once a Ranger, Always a Ranger" is thrown out the window when the OO Rangers quit.

I was very pleased with the chosen cast members and the concept of collecting one per era/season. JYB was one of my favorite actors from the Saban era, so it was awesome to see him in charge of the Retro/Veteran Rangers.

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[President Ranger]

The Overdrive team acting like a bunch of brats and quitting because they were jealous of the veteran Rangers. Seriously, who in their right mind thought that was good? The Overdrive team had already established itself as stupid and self-centered in many previous episodes. I didn't need to see that pattern repeated in the anniversary team up, which should've been a celebration of 15 years of Power Rangers. The Overdrive team embarrassed themselves once again, and worse they sapped the momentum out of the story and took time away from the veterans. I wanted to see past and present Rangers working together to save the world from a huge crisis, not Will, Rose, and Dax quitting and moping around AGAIN. The fate of the world was at stake - yet these Overdrive Rangers were just concerned about how THEY felt. Sorry, but that doesn't get a lot of sympathy from me.

That's not really fair to say. They didn't quit, they got replaced. They weren't jealous, they just had nothing to do in their eyes. These rangers had a legit reason for wanting to leave. And even if they did quit, look how they bounced back! Mack came back and killed a monster unmorphed. Furthermore, nobody bit*hes Tommy out when he leaves town after he loses his powers but the OO rangers are seen as a bunch of whiny babies for getting replaced?

[Super Jeff]

Once a Ranger was a good team up, yeah there were some flaws here and there, but it was enjoyable.

As for Mack bein an android, it was a wonderful episode. Things Not Said is definetly in my top 10 episodes of all time. Too bad the episodes that follows after, arnt much to speak of.

[TZMhero]

That's not really fair to say. They didn't quit, they got replaced. They weren't jealous, they just had nothing to do in their eyes. These rangers had a legit reason for wanting to leave. And even if they did quit, look how they bounced back! Mack came back and killed a monster unmorphed. Furthermore, nobody bit*hes Tommy out when he leaves town after he loses his powers but the OO rangers are seen as a bunch of whiny babies for getting replaced?

This is Tommy though. he's jebus.

[Super Jeff]

Kung fu action jesus to be precise

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Rangers finding the fourth jewel, the Red Sentinel Ranger, and the reveal that Mack was an android?

The quest for the Fourth Jewel it as cool the Plan of the Kamdor to find it as cool, The Red Sentinel Ranger is really awesome in my opinion this Battlyzer is the Best of the Disney Era, i liked when Mack is put the Battlyzer the final scene we see The Head of the Red ranger in one side and the Sentinel in anothers and the weapons are really cool for this Battlyzer.

The Revelation of Mack be a Android it as a really awesome twisted in the plot and we find out a diferent face of Mack when he finds out.

[Hears All]

What did you think of the Rangers finding the fourth jewel, the Red Sentinel Ranger, and the reveal that Mack was an android?

It was one of the few things I enjoyed in OO, I thought the way he treated his father after was also very interesting. I expected the Pinocchio ending though, this is PR after all

[nekollx]

That's not really fair to say. They didn't quit, they got replaced. They weren't jealous, they just had nothing to do in their eyes. These rangers had a legit reason for wanting to leave. And even if they did quit, look how they bounced back! Mack came back and killed a monster unmorphed. Furthermore, nobody bit*hes Tommy out when he leaves town after he loses his powers but the OO rangers are seen as a bunch of whiny babies for getting replaced?

A lot of people over look this, i these guys were recruited by their spirit mentor, and told by the same spirit "they are your replacements" Imagine if Zordon had said "the alien rangers of Aquitar aren't here to help they are here to Replace you"

[Jacen Solo]

The whole concept of "Once a Ranger, Always a Ranger" is thrown out the window when the OO Rangers quit.

I also find it kinda funny that this happens ONE EPISODE AFTER Spencer says that exact thing to Will for thinking about quitting.

President Ranger makes a good point though. I'm not sure what Andrew Hartford expected the OO's to do without powers. We saw them try once already. If the Retros hadn't shown up, they likely would have been killed.

[nekollx]

I also find it kinda funny that this happens ONE EPISODE AFTER Spencer says that exact thing to Will for thinking about quitting.

President Ranger makes a good point though. I'm not sure what Andrew Hartford expected the OO's to do without powers. We saw them try once already. If the Retros hadn't shown up, they likely would have been killed.

Yeah it's sort of a downer when you think about the run of events

"ok we may not be ranger but we still have Power"
Beat down
New rangers appear
"these new rangers are here to REPLACE YOU"

How would YOU Feel after, loosing your ranger powers, loosing a fight with your genetic powers, AND THEN being REPLACED by a new team of rangers, not asisted REPLACED

[Jacen Solo]

Wow. When you put it that way ... yeah.

I think, too, of Wes when Alex came and took his morpher away. Not exactly the same situation, but it came to mind.

[nekollx]

Wow. When you put it that way ... yeah.

I think, too, of Wes when Alex came and took his morpher away. Not exactly the same situation, but it came to mind.

And like Alex these "new rangers" each had a Minimum of a year of experience under their belt.

lets see replaced, more experienced, some don't even NEED genetic powers and are twice your age...i mean image how they felt facing Adam.
No genetic powers, twice their age, oldest/weakest power of the bunch (a perception thing you know they had to be thinking "this 15 year old power set can't be on par t with overdrive?)

[Digifiend]

The MMPR powers were much older than that.

[jedibloo]

What did you think of the Rangers finding the fourth jewel, the Red Sentinel Ranger, and the reveal that Mack was an android?

finding the the fourth jewel was ok but the Red Sentinel Ranger was awesome and Mack being a android was shocking

[President Ranger]

I'm not sure what Andrew Hartford expected the OO's to do without powers.

Honestly, there was absolutely nothing useful for them to do. Which is why as soon as this episode came out and people started complaining about how the OO rangers "quit" I was really quick to defend them. The one ranger that did stick around and didn't "abandon the mission" was Mack (not like he had anywhere to go so he had to stay lol). And what was Mack doing to help out? He was sweeping floors for a ranger team that HAS A BUTLER....That is quite literally about as pointless as it gets.

And you make a really good point in bringing up Wes. Him and Tommy are both good examples of rangers doing the exact same thing when they lost their powers.

[nekollx]

Honestly, there was absolutely nothing useful for them to do. Which is why as soon as this episode came out and people started complaining about how the OO rangers "quit" I was really quick to defend them. The one ranger that did stick around and didn't "abandon the mission" was Mack (not like he had anywhere to go so he had to stay lol). And what was Mack doing to help out? He was sweeping floors for a ranger team that HAS A BUTLER....That is quite literally about as pointless as it gets.

And you make a really good point in bringing up Wes. Him and Tommy are both good examples of rangers doing the exact same thing when they lost their powers.

Yeah people harp to much, Sentinal Knight might as well have added "Your all obsolete"

[Thrax]

It was one of the few things I enjoyed in OO, I thought the way he treated his father after was also very interesting. I expected the Pinocchio ending though, this is PR after all

The way of Mack treated is father when find out is really cool, we see Mack in the Dark Side, when he decides to make is own choises and starts to desobey to is father and ricks much times because he can sacrifice is life.

[Fenix84]

That's not really fair to say. They didn't quit, they got replaced. They weren't jealous, they just had nothing to do in their eyes. These rangers had a legit reason for wanting to leave. And even if they did quit, look how they bounced back! Mack came back and killed a monster unmorphed. Furthermore, nobody bit*hes Tommy out when he leaves town after he loses his powers but the OO rangers are seen as a bunch of whiny babies for getting replaced?


Honestly, there was absolutely nothing useful for them to do. Which is why as soon as this episode came out and people started complaining about how the OO rangers "quit" I was really quick to defend them.

What? Andrew Hartford and Adam were already working on restoring their powers, and they knew it. Furthermore, Operation Overdrive had a large scale mission going on that went far beyond five superpowered fighters winning battles. They were looking for the jewels, remember? The Rangers' various talents, all supposedly world class, were the very reason that they were even recruited. Furthermore, they had all been enhanced with genetic powers. Rose couldn't put her genius intellect at work in the command center, or developing new weapons? She couldn't use her invisibility to sneak around and spy on the villains? Will couldn't infiltrate the villains with his special skills? Ronny couldn't drive the SHARC or test out new Zords? There's nothing to defend, because the episode is stupid.

The Tommy comparison fails because Tommy was a fourteen year old kid with no world-class skills apart from fighting. The original Rangers had nothing to do but fight.


How would YOU Feel after, loosing your ranger powers, loosing a fight with your genetic powers, AND THEN being REPLACED by a new team of rangers, not asisted REPLACED

I don't care how they feel, and they already knew about Hartford's efforts to restore their powers. The veteran Rangers straight up told the Overdrive team that they were just "pinch hitting" for them. Real heroes get over themselves and get things done to help others. This made the Overdrive Rangers look bad, and furthermore it wasn't even a good story. It sucks all the momentum out of the big crisis because suddenly the two parter is no longer about the powerful evil alliance, but about the Overdrive Rangers feeling bad and moping around.

[President Ranger]

What? Andrew Hartford and Adam were already working on restoring their powers, and they knew it. Furthermore, Operation Overdrive had a large scale mission going on that went far beyond five superpowered fighters winning battles. They were looking for the jewels, remember? The Rangers' various talents, all supposedly world class, were the very reason that they were even recruited. Furthermore, they had all been enhanced with genetic powers. Rose couldn't put her genius intellect at work in the command center, or developing new weapons? She couldn't use her invisibility to sneak around and spy on the villains? Will couldn't infiltrate the villains with his special skills? Ronny couldn't drive the SHARC or test out new Zords? There's nothing to defend, because the episode is stupid.



Yes, those two were working on restoring the powers and getting nowhere while doing it. The only one of the 5 rangers who could have possibly helped in that regard was Rose because none of the special skills you talk about in terms of the other 4 rangers had to do with being super geniuses. All the things you named that the other rangers could have been doing, with the exception of Rose in the command center, is either unrealistic or just the equivalent of busy work. It's unrealistic to think that Rose and Will would infiltrate the bad guys layer (to which they had no idea where it was) just for the sake of having something to do. And Ronny being their chauffeur just for the sake of being there is completely pointless. The rangers didn't need a chauffeur for the SHARC or a zord tester that isn't a ranger. Is it even safe to have unmorphed humans driving zords? Again, the one ranger that did stay behind was left doing the oh so important job of sweeping the floor for a ranger team that has a butler. There was nothing for the rangers to do that didn't have to do with them just doing it for the sake of saying "I stayed"...Now, what happened when they finally found something to do that was actually significant? They jumped right on it. Which you leave out of your argument. You leave out the fact that they did go out there and do something helpful when they found something significant and realistic to do.


The Tommy comparison fails because Tommy was a fourteen year old kid with no world-class skills apart from fighting. The original Rangers had nothing to do but fight.

How is Tommy's above average fighting skill any worst than the OO rangers skills? In terms of the OO rangers skills, the only ranger that had any real skills that may have helped was Rose. Mack didn't have any skills, Dax was a stunt double, Will breaks into banks, and Ronny was simply a race car driver. The only thing that makes this team "skilled" is the fact that the show tells us these rather irrelevant talents are significant skills.

With the OO rangers you listed things that they could have done with their skills. Well, I can list things that Tommy could have done with his skills as well. He could have trained with Jason to make sure Jason's skills stayed on point. He could have trained with Billy and Kimberly to improve their skills the same way Adam did with Tanya and to a certain extent Carlos. He could have helped the rangers keep their secret identity by sticking around and covering for the rangers every time they had to run off to fight evil. Just as you can name a bunch of busy work the OO rangers could have done, I could do the same for Tommy.

[nekollx]

The veteran Rangers straight up told the Overdrive team that they were just "pinch hitting" for them.

There's a important distinction here you are missing.

The Ventrans said they were pinch hitting but the golden spirit who mentored them said they were "replaced"

Who are you going to belive, your boss or the new staff he hire that SAY they are temps?

[Mr. CD]

What did you think Vella and the death of the Fearcats?

You know, I notice something the other day when I was watching Home and Away I, if you look closely at Miratrix after Moltor says "Bow down to the Fearcats?" you can clearly see she is talking, but there's no sound coming out of her mouth. Did Ria have a line that got cut out during post-production? Also, I was surprise how, during the Rangers' final battle against the Fearcats, the BGM suddenly turned all Opera-like when the Fearcats started to get offed.

[Zeno503]

Yes, those two were working on restoring the powers and getting nowhere while doing it. The only one of the 5 rangers who could have possibly helped in that regard was Rose because none of the special skills you talk about in terms of the other 4 rangers had to do with being super geniuses. All the things you named that the other rangers could have been doing, with the exception of Rose in the command center, is either unrealistic or just the equivalent of busy work. It's unrealistic to think that Rose and Will would infiltrate the bad guys layer (to which they had no idea where it was) just for the sake of having something to do. And Ronny being their chauffeur just for the sake of being there is completely pointless. The rangers didn't need a chauffeur for the SHARC or a zord tester that isn't a ranger. Is it even safe to have unmorphed humans driving zords? Again, the one ranger that did stay behind was left doing the oh so important job of sweeping the floor for a ranger team that has a butler. There was nothing for the rangers to do that didn't have to do with them just doing it for the sake of saying "I stayed"...Now, what happened when they finally found something to do that was actually significant? They jumped right on it. Which you leave out of your argument. You leave out the fact that they did go out there and do something helpful when they found something significant and realistic to do.

Well it's not totally unrealistic that they would be able to sneak into the lairs, (I'm sure if they knew where the villains lairs were the overdrive team would've taken some sort of action anyways) but either way I don't think that they would do something like sneaking into their lairs just because they needed something to do. They're Power Rangers! Earth's greatest defense against evil, they have to go to any means to stop the bad guys even taking a huge chance and sneaking inside the lair. (As to their plan once they get inside is up to the writers, which I wouldn't trust anyways..) But besides that, for adults (moderately young seeming ones) they act very childish to the thought of being replaced. I'm not saying they couldn't feel anything having been told by SK that they were being replaced but instead of the "oh woe is us" deal they could've acted as professionals and support the other rangers in some way. The retro rangers were more experienced and them trying to do something for them I guess in a way would slow the Retro Rangers down due to their lack of experience. But really I don't think any of the five retro rangers would feel the overdrive rangers were "in the way". Of course Rose could've tried to help with restoring the OO powers, hell they were ALL actually working on repairs as soon as their morphers got destroyed but I mean with no real knowledge of the morphing grid they couldn't repair them so of course in the end they would've needed alpha anyways. Will and the rest I don't think could've done anything major but with their powers they could've helped out any civilians stuck in the crossfire of the retro rangers and the villains by helping them to safety, help clearing the roads from the damage or something like that cause I'm sure the city could've used the help. It wouldn't be too hard to think of something with their (I use the term lightly) superpowers. And an unmorphed human in a zord unsafe? I would only think that anyone who wasn't a ranger would would be unsafe in the zord rather if someone who was a ranger like ronny and had experience in the zord I'm sure isn't really much of a danger. And I wouldn't be against the idea of someone testing the zords, I mean they are machines so a test run wouldn't be anything harmful and might even find something wrong and fix or even enhance whatever is wrong for future fights.

In the end, they should've acted like professionals than like kids who lost their awesome toys.


How is Tommy's above average fighting skill any worst than the OO rangers skills? In terms of the OO rangers skills, the only ranger that had any real skills that may have helped was Rose. Mack didn't have any skills, Dax was a stunt double, Will breaks into banks, and Ronny was simply a race car driver. The only thing that makes this team "skilled" is the fact that the show tells us these rather irrelevant talents are significant skills.

With the OO rangers you listed things that they could have done with their skills. Well, I can list things that Tommy could have done with his skills as well. He could have trained with Jason to make sure Jason's skills stayed on point. He could have trained with Billy and Kimberly to improve their skills the same way Adam did with Tanya and to a certain extent Carlos. He could have helped the rangers keep their secret identity by sticking around and covering for the rangers every time they had to run off to fight evil. Just as you can name a bunch of busy work the OO rangers could have done, I could do the same for Tommy.

It wasn't "busy work" he was naming, but rather helpful things that can actually stop the badguys or assist the Retro Rangers to beating them. But I do agree Tommy could've done more. The only thing is that he was a sort of outsider and seeing what Tommy did didn't seem to far fetched for some loner teen, instead of fully grown adults moping around. And something I feel needs to be noted, in the beginning of OaR the OO rangers were all peppy from recovering a ruby and they just adored being rangers for the sake of the excitement. Then with their morphers destroyed and the Retro Rangers there getting the attention from the media, they quickly decide "screw this I didn't like being a power ranger anyways and I wanna let these guys take the heat" and then Rose reads the paper, New Rangers save whatever and then they get all mopy but it just seems like petty jealousy. Not the most respectable attributes coming from the OO rangers, again.

[President Ranger]

The power rangers, not just the OO rangers but ranger teams in general, are a very reactive bunch of superheroes. They usually don't go snooping around the bad guys hide outs unless they have a very specific reason so its unrealistic to say that the OO rangers should have or would have done so. And again, they didn't know where it was which also makes it unrealistic. Furthermore, whats the point of talking about all of the things they could have done to help as if they didn't do anything at all? You guys are talking as if the OO rangers left and the only reason why they are back is because Hartford called them and said "okay guys, your powers are fixed, we need you again." The OO rangers did help after they lost their powers. They destroyed a fully grown monster unmorphed for goodness sakes. Why is suggesting that they should have snuck into the bad guys hide outs or helped test zords a better suggestion than what they actually did?

[rangerfan998]

The power rangers, not just the OO rangers but ranger teams in general, are a very reactive bunch of superheroes. They usually don't go snooping around the bad guys hide outs unless they have a very specific reason so its unrealistic to say that the OO rangers should have or would have done so. And again, they didn't know where it was which also makes it unrealistic. Furthermore, whats the point of talking about all of the things they could have done to help as if they didn't do anything at all? You guys are talking as if the OO rangers left and the only reason why they are back is because Hartford called them and said "okay guys, your powers are fixed, we need you again." The OO rangers did help after they lost their powers. They destroyed a fully grown monster unmorphed for goodness sakes. Why is suggesting that they should have snuck into the bad guys hide outs or helped test zords a better suggestion than what they actually did?

Because their first instinct was to quit. They just left and continued on with their lives. The only reason they are back is because of a convenient plot device...

[nekollx]

Because their first instinct was to quit. They just left and continued on with their lives. The only reason they are back is because of a convenient plot device...

No their First instinct was to fight unmorphed
Which resulted in them getin their buts kicked, the Vetrans comming in, SK REPLACING THEM, and the vetrans showing they could do a BETTER job then the OO rangers.
Then they quit.

[Mr. CD]

Actually, their first instinct was to fix their morphers.
Then fight unmorphed.
Then... you know the rest.

[President Ranger]

Because their first instinct was to quit. They just left and continued on with their lives. The only reason they are back is because of a convenient plot device...

They didn't quit though. There was nothing for them to do. If they had stayed they would have been maids just like the one ranger who did stay was. Again, nobody calls Tommy or Wes quitters for what they did, but the OO rangers are? Come on now. Quitting would be "this is to hard so I give up" or "we can't win, I'm done". The OO rangers did none of that.

[Zeno503]

The power rangers, not just the OO rangers but ranger teams in general, are a very reactive bunch of superheroes. They usually don't go snooping around the bad guys hide outs unless they have a very specific reason so its unrealistic to say that the OO rangers should have or would have done so. And again, they didn't know where it was which also makes it unrealistic. Furthermore, whats the point of talking about all of the things they could have done to help as if they didn't do anything at all? You guys are talking as if the OO rangers left and the only reason why they are back is because Hartford called them and said "okay guys, your powers are fixed, we need you again." The OO rangers did help after they lost their powers. They destroyed a fully grown monster unmorphed for goodness sakes. Why is suggesting that they should have snuck into the bad guys hide outs or helped test zords a better suggestion than what they actually did?

Yeah that's what I meant, that they wouldn't have gone without a reason not just for needing something to do. It's not too unrealistic if they knew where it was, but the point Fenix84 was a good one in the sense of them having able to do something of that sort, rather than the childish jealousy thing. Oh and suggesting that stuff is for the sake of conversation, it's kinda what people do in a conversation and then start giving opinions. And this was about whether we liked OaR or not. Of course I didn't like it but I have my reasons. Oh and I didn't really expect them to do much anyways but at least the attitudes from them could've been better. I don't see a problem with them deciding to leave but after only one shot from fighting the fearcats and losing they just felt the need to leave. I would've seen it more believable if they tried to help and then in some way the Retro Rangers were subconsciously one-upping the OO team but only due to them having their ranger suits and THEN the OO rangers would be left feeling unneeded. In the end I'm just saying it should've been A LOT better. I guess you can say they were already getting one upped just by the Retro Rangers being Rangers while they weren't but I wouldn't really consider that one-upping. (One could say they wouldn't need to one up them cause they're already better rangers than the OO rangers.) They all at least redeemed themselves to Andrew when they realized how stupid they acted but from what I can tell they tend to be that ridiculous a bit often. And also, technically, it was Mac with Excelsior who destroyed that one huge monster. So yeah I mean at least Mac out of all of them didn't get too disheartened from what happened and did something and inspired the rest of them.

[nekollx]

But again you ignore the fact that SENTINEL KNIGHT FIRED THEM. Really what were they going to do when SK said "i don't need you anymore i have these guys." Want to blame someone blame SK for giving up on them and shifting his attention to the Ventrans.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Sentinel Knight called the Retros their replacements- and then Andrew and Adam go above and beyond to demonstrate they plan to reinstitute the Overdrive Rangers as Earth's primary line of defense as soon as possible. Anyone who says "they were fired" is ignoring that Sentinel Knight has no particular jurisdiction over the team. ANDREW created their powers and gear. ANDREW is their most active mentor. Sentinel Knight is just the guy giving them intel whenever it's convenient. He's ghost-Ninjor. Ninjor could not override a command from Zordon, and neither could Sentinel Knight. The team quit knowing that the replacement team and their REAL mentor (who, remember, wasn't outed as a sexual predator yet or hated by the team at this time) were working to give them their powers back. They threw a tantrum. Indeed, that was supposed to be the moral of the episode as well as the FREAKING TITLE. Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Powers be damned. The Retros knew it, the Overdrives didn't.

The Overdrive Rangers are petty, egotistical, power-mad curs with not a redeeming trait among them other than Mack.

[Zeno503]

Yeah but they could've easily have acted out of that. He replaces them yeah, but then seeing Mac as the only one who stayed told him if he keeps fighting for what's right that he'll always have power. Saying that nulls out any idea of SK wanting the OO rangers out for good. So I guess their actions are influenced SK's words, but hearing this sounds like he didn't mean anything on the boundaries of "go away" but rather this is what has to be done. Wouldn't any sensible person realize that? I mean if they can protect the earth a lot more efficiently than some guys with super powers then it's a clear choice for them to defend Earth, but I guess none of them had that optimistic characteristic besides for Mac.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Of course they don't. Look at the finale. Rose thinks her worst trait was BEING ASHAMED OF HER INTELLIGENCE. When she debuts as a self-important genius with no sense of how to bond with others (at least K was violently abused in her childhood to justify why she acts monstrously sociopathic at times). Will is repeatedly taught the value of teamwork and not being in charge, and then decides to form a team of sneakers with HIMSELF as leader. Ronnie and Dax have no capacity for abstract reasoning and just like things that make them happy in the moment. And Mack, poor sad "made as a sexual aid" Mack... Ends up living the life of danger and intrigue he wanted so badly as a nigh-indestructible robot as a frail and squishy human. For the twisted hedonist father who created him. God, at least Tyzonn and Vella get a happy ending.

[President Ranger]

Sentinel Knight called the Retros their replacements- and then Andrew and Adam go above and beyond to demonstrate they plan to reinstitute the Overdrive Rangers as Earth's primary line of defense as soon as possible. Anyone who says "they were fired" is ignoring that Sentinel Knight has no particular jurisdiction over the team. ANDREW created their powers and gear. ANDREW is their most active mentor. Sentinel Knight is just the guy giving them intel whenever it's convenient. He's ghost-Ninjor. Ninjor could not override a command from Zordon, and neither could Sentinel Knight. The team quit knowing that the replacement team and their REAL mentor (who, remember, wasn't outed as a sexual predator yet or hated by the team at this time) were working to give them their powers back. They threw a tantrum. Indeed, that was supposed to be the moral of the episode as well as the FREAKING TITLE. Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Powers be damned. The Retros knew it, the Overdrives didn't.

The Overdrive Rangers are petty, egotistical, power-mad curs with not a redeeming trait among them other than Mack.

You do not know what a tantrum is if you claim that the OO rangers threw a tantrum. They simply told Hartford that he doesn't need them anymore. They made a really reasonable argument when telling him why they were leaving. It was far from a tantrum and they sort of had a point. They weren't needed as long as the replacements were there. Hence why when they were there they weren't doing anything and when they left the one ranger who was trying to help ended up doing something completely pointless. All the other 5 rangers would have been doing completely pointless things as well if they had stayed. That's why they left, and again, its was reasonable.

Calling them petty, egotistical, and power-mad, isn't accurate of this episode considering the fact that they went out without their rangers powers and fought prior to the Retro's showing up. And again, directly after the episode where they "quit", they came back. I don't see why people ignore the bravery and heart they showed prior to their decision to leave and the fact that they came back and helped in a major way, without their powers, after they decided to leave. Doesn't the good ultimately out weigh the bad in this?

[nekollx]

You do not know what a tantrum is if you claim that the OO rangers threw a tantrum. They simply told Hartford that he doesn't need them anymore. They made a really reasonable argument when telling him why they were leaving. It was far from a tantrum and they sort of had a point. They weren't needed as long as the replacements were there. Hence why when they were there they weren't doing anything and when they left the one ranger who was trying to help ended up doing something completely pointless. All the other 5 rangers would have been doing completely pointless things as well if they had stayed. That's why they left, and again, its was reasonable.

Calling them petty, egotistical, and power-mad, isn't accurate of this episode considering the fact that they went out without their rangers powers and fought prior to the Retro's showing up. And again, directly after the episode where they "quit", they came back. I don't see why people ignore the bravery and heart they showed prior to their decision to leave and the fact that they came back and helped in a major way, without their powers, after they decided to leave. Doesn't the good ultimately out weigh the bad in this?

and they were gone for what? A day? Before they came back to find the sword?

A day later Tommy had quit school and retreated to his uncles cabin in the woods and Wes was running a billion dollar company.

[President Ranger]

Well most of them secured jobs prior to coming back so it was obviously more than a day, but during that whole time period, however long it was, the OO rangers were not needed. Actually, I take that back. They were needed because Mack wasn't gonna be able to sweep all the floors in that mansion alone gosh darn it.

[Zeno503]

It was reasonable for them feeling that way but I feel they quit too easily. Yeah they came back and helped save the day but I wouldn't think that they would have come back if it wasn't for Mac going to Rose for the book on Excelsior. On the episode, the good could possibly outweigh the bad but at the time I think the only one showing any good was Mac after the talk with SK. And if SK didn't even come to talk to Mac, who knows if even he would've bothered trying to do something to help. Would sticking around to confirm whether their powers were gone for good or not be so hard? Tommy just had lost his powers and at the time were non-retrievable in any way. Wes got his morpher confiscated and if he didn't go and do nothing he probably would've tried to get them back from Alex. These guys had their source of power damaged but it's repairable and they couldn't just wait for a confirmation?

[nekollx]

It was reasonable for them feeling that way but I feel they quit too easily. Yeah they came back and helped save the day but I wouldn't think that they would have come back if it wasn't for Mac going to Rose for the book on Excelsior. On the episode, the good could possibly outweigh the bad but at the time I think the only one showing any good was Mac after the talk with SK. And if SK didn't even come to talk to Mac, who knows if even he would've bothered trying to do something to help. Would sticking around to confirm whether their powers were gone for good or not be so hard? Tommy just had lost his powers and at the time were non-retrievable in any way. Wes got his morpher confiscated and if he didn't go and do nothing he probably would've tried to get them back from Alex. These guys had their source of power damaged but it's repairable and they couldn't just wait for a confirmation?

Confermation you mean like "the overdrive portion of the mrphing grid is dammage beyond repair and we don't know how to fix it?" you know like Andrew told them?

[President Ranger]

It was reasonable for them feeling that way but I feel they quit too easily. Yeah they came back and helped save the day but I wouldn't think that they would have come back if it wasn't for Mac going to Rose for the book on Excelsior. On the episode, the good could possibly outweigh the bad but at the time I think the only one showing any good was Mac after the talk with SK. And if SK didn't even come to talk to Mac, who knows if even he would've bothered trying to do something to help. Would sticking around to confirm whether their powers were gone for good or not be so hard? Tommy just had lost his powers and at the time were non-retrievable in any way. Wes got his morpher confiscated and if he didn't go and do nothing he probably would've tried to get them back from Alex. These guys had their source of power damaged but it's repairable and they couldn't just wait for a confirmation?

First of all, why do they have to be sitting in the mansion, doing nothing, while waiting for confirmation that they got their powers back? Do you think if they didn't come back to get the sword, but Hartford called them and said "your powers are working again", they would turn down the offer to be rangers again?

Furthermore, I still don't get why you people say they "quit" to easily. They went out and fought unmorphed, almost getting themselves killed, they personally tried to fix their damaged morphers themselves, and they did actually stick around for a while when the Retro's were there. However, they quickly realized that there was nothing significant for them to do as long as their powers were out of commission and the chances of their powers being returned to them were slim to none. Hell, to figure out a solution for how the rangers got their powers back, the writers had to do something that breaks previous logic established by the show. That is, they had to take a character that should not have been available to them and shove him into the morphing grid to fix it. The rangers had every reason to believe that everybody was blowing smoke up their arse when being told that they would get their powers back. In addition, they saw first hand through the time that they did stick around that they weren't needed as long as the replacements were there. Therefore, their decision was completely reasonable.

As for the Tommy comparison, its not true that the powers were non-retrievable. Hence why he used them again. Unlike the OO rangers, nobody on that MMPR team ever tried (at least on camera) to fix the powers (and that goes for every stinking time that team lost a power).

[nekollx]

First of all, why do they have to be sitting in the mansion, doing nothing, while waiting for confirmation that they got their powers back? Do you think if they didn't come back to get the sword, but Hartford called them and said "your powers are working again", they would turn down the offer to be rangers again?

Furthermore, I still don't get why you people say they "quit" to easily. They went out and fought unmorphed, almost getting themselves killed, they personally tried to fix their damaged morphers themselves, and they did actually stick around for a while when the Retro's were there. However, they quickly realized that there was nothing significant for them to do as long as their powers were out of commission and the chances of their powers being returned to them were slim to none. Hell, to figure out a solution for how the rangers got their powers back, the writers had to do something that breaks previous logic established by the show. That is, they had to take a character that should not have been available to them and shove him into the morphing grid to fix it. The rangers had every reason to believe that everybody was blowing smoke up their arse when being told that they would get their powers back. In addition, they saw first hand through the time that they did stick around that they weren't needed as long as the replacements were there. Therefore, their decision was completely reasonable.

As for the Tommy comparison, its not true that the powers were non-retrievable. Hence why he used them again. Unlike the OO rangers, nobody on that MMPR team ever tried (at least on camera) to fix the powers (and that goes for every stinking time that team lost a power).

"Oh no the zord blew up from a over load, the Power Rangers are over"
"Did you try to fix the morphers or even morph even though the zords are gone?"
"Well....no....but look we confirmed they are broken 4 years later on IS"
"so you didn't even look at your morphers for 4 years?
"....."

"Oh no the power chamber is gone! We just venture into space to find zordon! Alone"
"again did you even try morphing..."
"erm.....no..."
"and yet Justin's turbo morpher worked fine, even without a power chamber so CLEARLY there is a altertive power source you could have found."
"that was DIFFFFFERENT!"

[Digifiend]

When the Thunderzords blew up, what happened? They demorphed before even hitting the ground. They knew immediately that that meant the power was no longer stable enough to use. As for Turbo, that was a duplicate morpher (same for TJ in Forever Red) powered by the sentient cars.

[Zeno503]

Confermation you mean like "the overdrive portion of the mrphing grid is dammage beyond repair and we don't know how to fix it?" you know like Andrew told them?

Guess I can't really say "oops" here. But a little optimism from them wouldn't have hurt.


First of all, why do they have to be sitting in the mansion, doing nothing, while waiting for confirmation that they got their powers back? Do you think if they didn't come back to get the sword, but Hartford called them and said "your powers are working again", they would turn down the offer to be rangers again?

Furthermore, I still don't get why you people say they "quit" to easily. They went out and fought unmorphed, almost getting themselves killed, they personally tried to fix their damaged morphers themselves, and they did actually stick around for a while when the Retro's were there. However, they quickly realized that there was nothing significant for them to do as long as their powers were out of commission and the chances of their powers being returned to them were slim to none. Hell, to figure out a solution for how the rangers got their powers back, the writers had to do something that breaks previous logic established by the show. That is, they had to take a character that should not have been available to them and shove him into the morphing grid to fix it. The rangers had every reason to believe that everybody was blowing smoke up their arse when being told that they would get their powers back. In addition, they saw first hand through the time that they did stick around that they weren't needed as long as the replacements were there. Therefore, their decision was completely reasonable.

As for the Tommy comparison, its not true that the powers were non-retrievable. Hence why he used them again. Unlike the OO rangers, nobody on that MMPR team ever tried (at least on camera) to fix the powers (and that goes for every stinking time that team lost a power).


Yeah they would come back, but the thing is they as Power Rangers are supposed to act to protect others and they dropped that. Again, instead of actually leaving OO entirely they could've still acted upon heroic duties and whether a part of OO or not helped civilians in danger where the Retro Rangers and any villains fought. They could've helped clear any wreckage that occurred during the fights. These guys were known by the city for being heroes and they just drop it? That's the problem. I mean compared to a power ranger, it's not much but assisting people that are injured, frightened, or anything would've still been good while the Retros did their part. In OaR, any sense for justice and protecting the city in the OO rangers just faded. I mean in Turbo, the soon to become Turbo rangers Carlos and Ashley helped people to safety without ever even having been power rangers (well they were asked by adam and tanya to help but they went ahead and did it). These guys were rangers, and they just dropped it entirely. They didn't need to help the rangers specifically but I mean something along those lines of aiding would've sufficed. That's what bothered me about them, not deciding to leave the fighting in much more capable hands but to leave and just not help anyone and to instead have their jobs.

And I'm probably wrong about the Tommy thing cause I know he got the powers back after a bit but within two episodes did they mention the possibility of getting the powers back? I don't think they did. And if not, then that's what I meant by at the time (the time being two episodes after he lost his powers) the powers were non-retrievable and why I compared it to at the moment the rangers didn't have their accelerators.

[President Ranger]

Yeah, but think about this. Your suggesting that the OO rangers lag behind the replacements as basically a clean up crew and safety team just for the sake of them having something to do. In most cases, people either run and are out of harms way, or were never in harms way to begin with. A lot of battles take place in open empty places, especially in OO, so it would still be a pointless job. It would also be a job that could potentially do more harm than good. The villains know who they are. All they would have to do is target them, hold one of them hostage, and all of a sudden the bad guys have leverage to make any demand that they want...And again, I know I've said this many times already, but the one guy that did stay wasn't doing anything. Which is the whole point the OO rangers were making. Their point was that Hartford didn't need them. Even if you think it would have been nice for the rangers to have done every little duty you could think of, can't we all agree that Hartford really didn't need these guys anymore as long as they didn't have powers?

[Fenix84]

Yes, those two were working on restoring the powers and getting nowhere while doing it. The only one of the 5 rangers who could have possibly helped in that regard was Rose because none of the special skills you talk about in terms of the other 4 rangers had to do with being super geniuses.

Yeah, so why wasn't Rose right there with Andrew and Adam? She wanted something to do, supposedly.


All the things you named that the other rangers could have been doing, with the exception of Rose in the command center, is either unrealistic or just the equivalent of busy work. It's unrealistic to think that Rose and Will would infiltrate the bad guys layer (to which they had no idea where it was) just for the sake of having something to do.

The Rangers got inside the villains' lairs more than once during the season. They broke into Moltor's place in the premiere. Will does exactly this in "Will on Empty." But instead he tells Andrew that their mission was "is to be Power Rangers," which is just a complete falsehood. Their mission was to recover the Crown and all its jewels before the villains do. That's something that being a Ranger and reacting to monster attacks interferes with. If the veterans are being Rangers, then the Overdrive team should be devoting themselves to studying clues and trying to find the jewels.


Now, what happened when they finally found something to do that was actually significant? They jumped right on it. Which you leave out of your argument. You leave out the fact that they did go out there and do something helpful when they found something significant and realistic to do.

Yeah, after they already wasted time getting into car races or movie shoots or searching for some OTHER missing artifact. Time they should've spent on the mission, which again was not just being Rangers.


How is Tommy's above average fighting skill any worst than the OO rangers skills? In terms of the OO rangers skills, the only ranger that had any real skills that may have helped was Rose. Mack didn't have any skills, Dax was a stunt double, Will breaks into banks, and Ronny was simply a race car driver. The only thing that makes this team "skilled" is the fact that the show tells us these rather irrelevant talents are significant skills.

Breaking into places is irrelevant now? Even though Will used that skill numerous times throughout the season?


With the OO rangers you listed things that they could have done with their skills. Well, I can list things that Tommy could have done with his skills as well. He could have trained with Jason to make sure Jason's skills stayed on point. He could have trained with Billy and Kimberly to improve their skills the same way Adam did with Tanya and to a certain extent Carlos. He could have helped the rangers keep their secret identity by sticking around and covering for the rangers every time they had to run off to fight evil. Just as you can name a bunch of busy work the OO rangers could have done, I could do the same for Tommy.

Sure, those are good points. Difference is that Tommy's departure was clearly done for out-of-universe reasons. They didn't make a stupid story about Tommy moping around and quitting in the middle of an ongoing crisis, when others asked him not to. They didn't focus on it. At the end of "The Green Candle" Tommy is still there and is taking Kimberly out to the school dance. At the end of "Green No More" the Rangers send him off and don't ask anything more from him. He dropped off the show because the actor was released. Tommy was still around, offscreen, just like all the Rangers' other classmates. Zordon was monitoring him and could've teleported him back if he was ever needed. Sure in "Missing Green" Tommy had taken off for a break at his uncle's cabin (which he had left for offscreen), but the episode began that way and didn't show him quitting when he had a job to do laid out right before him.

So in MMPR, it wasn't Tommy quitting so much as Jason David Frank just not appearing. It's not just what happened, but how the story is written around what happened.