Power Rangers Dino Thunder: Love, Like, Dislike or Hate?

[ForeverBlue]

Next is Dino Thunder!

You know the drill :p

[Jiemusu]

Potentially interesting, but largely overrated.

Take out the aspect of Tommy just returning (not even for what he did in it, JUST him returning), it wouldn't recieve nearly as much positive reception as it has.

I've seen worse seasons though, so it's not BAD. But at times it just felt like an attempt to recreate MMPR, where as it potentially could have been more if it didn't just focus on trying to be that adaption.

[Hears All]

Love It

I would say it's my favorite or second favorite season, depending on what day you ask :p

[Peanut Brittle]

Second favorite season, adore it. Though I disagree with the notion of Tommy returning being the big reason: this is the one season I think Tommy is actually entertaining, so I don't have much love for him. I just like that it's teenagers with attitude with actually pretty decent writing.

[Jiemusu]

The poster after my post above is an open Tommy fanboy, most people say (in fact, as most replies in this thread will probably be) that they likes it just because Tommy returns as the black ranger. They don't think, it's an automatic subconscious thing. They automatically praise it just because Tommy returns, and they try and find things in the season later to appreciate.

Which is a shame because it gives a bad name for those that genuinely like Dino Thunder, independant of Tommy. They do exist, but they're often outnumbered and underconsidered.

[KyoryuRed]

the poster after him openly admitted in his post that he likes it just because Tommy returns as the black ranger.

i deleted my post... because it's not nice to mocking my comment

[Jiemusu]

It supports my point though, people (for the majority of the time) home in on the notion that Tommy returned, and that seems to be the primary basis for why alot of people identify Dino Thunder (on a whole) as a good season, it's automatic. They'll find things later to reinforce their already formed opinion.

If Tommy hypothetically never appeared, Dino Thunder's reception would be totally different.

[Mr. CD]

Folks liked Dino Thunder because it had likable characters, compelling villains, cohesive storyline, and made references to the past but did it in a way kids wouldn't feel lost in it. Tommy was just the icing on the cake.

[Hears All]

It supports my point though, people (for the majority of the time) home in on the notion that Tommy returned, and that seems to be the primary basis for why alot of people identify Dino Thunder (on a whole) as a good season, it's automatic. They'll find things later to reinforce their already formed opinion.

If Tommy hypothetically never appeared, Dino Thunder's reception would be totally different.

Not really, aside from Tommy Dino Thunder does many things right. It goes back to the roots of the show, Dinosaurs and high school. It realizes it's a children's show and is simple, it gives the characters problems that viewers can relate to (bullies, girls, etc.). It has an excellent villain, one who is terrifying from beginning to end (unlike others **cough Zedd cough**). Tommy is the icing on the cake. There is no point in looking at the show if Tommy wasn't on it, because he was, and is just as part of the season as everyone else.

[Jiemusu]

Folks liked Dino Thunder because it had likable characters, compelling villains, cohesive storyline, and made references to the past but did it in a way kids wouldn't feel lost in it. Tommy was just the icing on the cake.

I respect those people, but they seem to be a minority based on most reactions to it I've seen.

That's WHY I respect genuine Dino Thunder fans that much, BECAUSE they're that minority.


Not really, aside from Tommy Dino Thunder does many things right. It goes back to the roots of the show, Dinosaurs and high school. It realizes it's a children's show and is simple, it gives the characters problems that viewers can relate to (bullies, girls, etc.). It has an excellent villain, one who is terrifying from beginning to end (unlike others **cough Zedd cough**). Tommy is the icing on the cake. There is no point in looking at the show if Tommy wasn't on it, because he was, and is just as part of the season as everyone else.

So what you're saying is, it tries to be MMPR remade.

MMPR being a season of power rangers that holds a nostalgic place for those that remember the era of Tommy.

It's bullies should have just been CALLED Bulk and Skull, it was that obvious.

It's positive reception comes from the nostalga of MMPR. As a stand alone season, on an objective scale, is it really that good?

How can you say Tommy was just icing on the cake (not the sole appreciation root) one minute, then say there's no point looking at the show if Tommy wasn't on it (because he was part of it)? That contradicts, you're unawarely saying that the fuel for the positive acclaim wouldn't have been present without HIS presence.

Without an objective, stand alone measure, how can we be sure Dino Thunder was such a great season WITHOUT it's heavy MMPR overtone?

People aren't appreciating Dino Thunder for Dino Thunder, in that case, they're appreciating it because it's a loose MMPR.

What you said about the villain Mesogog (sp?) as a villain though, I'll grant you.... except people don't go around saying that as a common first reason for why they love Dino Thunder. Most immediate reasons for it, are things that are parallel to Tommy's return or other MMPR inclusions.

It's MMPR appreciation, in disguise.

[Peanut Brittle]

Which is a shame because it gives a bad name for those that genuinely like Dino Thunder, independant of Tommy. They do exist, but they're often outnumbered and underconsidered.

Even by you!

[Jiemusu]

Even by you!

... genuine Dino Thunder fans (that like DT for reasons other than Tommy or other MMPR appreciations) are outnumbered and underconsidered because of me? One person?

That doesn't make ANY sense.

Unless you admit that the quantity of genuine Dino Thunder fans was small to begin with.

[Peanut Brittle]

I didn't say "because of you." I said "Even by you!" after your statement about the genuine fans being under appreciated. Because you instantly jump in and say people wouldn't like DinoThunder as much if Tommy wasn't in it, only to lament the under appreciation of the people who love it in the way you say people wouldn't love it.

It doesn't make any sense because you mentally rewrote "Even by you!" into "Because of you!" Which is weird because I didn't say a good two thirds of those things.

[Jiemusu]

Ah I thought you were implying this


They do exist, but they're often outnumbered and underconsidered.

Even by you!

They do exist, but they're often outnumbered and underconsidered, even by you.


Which made no sense at the time.

But anyway.

Well no, because Hears All brought up a very interesting notion. That notion was appreciating Dino Thunder because of the main villain, MESOGOG, being consistently scary and intimidating through the whole season. This is a factor that ISN'T parallel to, or just a revamp or direct comparison to, MMPR. It's something that stands alone with Dino Thunder as it's own creation.

If people use factors like this, things independant and unique to Dino Thunder, as a primary reasoning behind their appreciation, it's normally a heavy indication that they're appreciating Dino Thunder because it's Dino Thunder.

That's a minority, because it doesn't happen nearly as commonly as those that say Dino Thunder is a cool season because Tommy came back, or because it reminded them of MMPR.

How would I be giving a bad name for genuine DT fans? They'd be giving it to themselves. The key is how they justify their appreciation. I'm not in control of what people say, I'm just analysing the quantities of what they do say to support my claim.

[Hears All]

So what you're saying is, it tries to be MMPR remade.

MMPR being a season of power rangers that holds a nostalgic place for those that remember the era of Tommy.

It's bullies should have just been CALLED Bulk and Skull, it was that obvious.

It's positive reception comes from the nostalga of MMPR. As a stand alone season, on an objective scale, is it really that good?

How can you say Tommy was just icing on the cake (not the sole appreciation root) one minute, then say there's no point looking at the show if Tommy wasn't on it (because he was part of it)? That contradicts, you're unawarely saying that the fuel for the positive acclaim wouldn't have been present without HIS presence.

Without an objective, stand alone measure, how can we be sure Dino Thunder was such a great season WITHOUT it's heavy MMPR overtone?

People aren't appreciating Dino Thunder for Dino Thunder, in that case, they're appreciating it because it's a loose MMPR.

What you said about the villain Mesogog (sp?) as a villain though, I'll grant you.... except people don't go around saying that as a common first reason for why they love Dino Thunder. Most immediate reasons for it, are things that are parallel to Tommy's return or other MMPR inclusions.

It's MMPR appreciation, in disguise.

MMPR was incredibly bad, it's writing was cheesy, the acting (except for a few people) was generally bad, the stories were predictable, it's budget was shoe string, the dubbing was bad and it was riddled with behind the scenes issues. The best parts of the show were the fights, music and charisma the actors brought. Fans love it for nostalgia, and that's about it. Dino Thunder does get inspiration from MMPR, but in almost every way is better than MMPR


How can you say Tommy was just icing on the cake (not the sole appreciation root) one minute, then say there's no point looking at the show if Tommy wasn't on it (because he was part of it)? That contradicts, you're unawarely saying that the fuel for the positive acclaim wouldn't have been present without HIS presence.

I never said the show was bad without Tommy, where did you get that? I said he is as much part of the show as any other cast member so there is no reason to imagine the season if he wasn't in it.

The #1 reason I hear people say they don't like DT is because "fanboys just love Tommy", and that is a valid point, but the season has it's own merits. It is one of the only season that knows what it wants to be, it has an interesting and solid story. Characters are memorable, each have their own growth and overcome whatever obstacles they have to. Mesagog is not a complete joke who turns soft and the White Ranger clone/Trent is a very respectable evil Ranger. It does draw parallels but a lot of them are from Abaranger


Without an objective, stand alone measure, how can we be sure Dino Thunder was such a great season WITHOUT it's heavy MMPR overtone?

You can't fault DT because Abaranger was so close to Zyuranger, even if Tommy wasn't in the season, MMPR and DT would still be compared by fans. It's kind of like how In Space had it's overtone from Star Trek, without the whole Star Trek vibe would fans be so receptive?


It's MMPR appreciation, in disguise.

It does pay homage, but the homage doesn't take over the whole season, and that is what I find so special.

[Fenix84]

The idea that DT was mostly praised for Tommy is totally bogus. If anything, I think it's an overused claim by the season's detractors to play down how much DT did do well. Tommy is a supporting character in DT. He's nothing but JDF's voice and some anonymous guy in a suit for a good third of the season. Even after JDF returned to the show in full capacity, Tommy took a backseat to almost everyone else in the show.

This is a season that gave us:
-More realistic characters and interactions.
-A hangout that actually mattered, and comfortably accomodated a variety of plots.
-A team of admirable Rangers who acted like genuine friends.
-Good focus episodes that actually showed who the Rangers were, what their dreams were, and how they changed.
-Character development for second string characters like Cassidy and Devin, more than some actual Rangers in other seasons.
-A variety of storylines running throughout the season, so that you didn't feel like most of the show was just standalone filler.
-One of the best villains in series history in Mesogog.

And yes, there was the continuity and nostalgia factor as well. But people loved this season for many different reasons.

[Jiemusu]

So totally bogus that... it actually happens. Yeah. Totally bogus.

You'd be surprised how many 'claimed' DT fans say that it's an amazing season BECAUSE Tommy came back. As in, not for what he did in it... as in, they haven't bothered to watch it. It's JUST that he came back, anything he did in the season is irrelevant to the notion that he just CAME back.

Lightspeed Rescue and Turbo gets hate from fans because it's not what they're used to, and as such they often criticise the seasons WITHOUT WATCHING THEM.

Is it fair? No of course not, because Lightspeed Rescue and Turbo has attributes to the season that people haven't even bothered to watch.

The same could be said of Dino Thunder, alot of it's supposed fans (to no disrespect to thost that genuinely have) don't even know what happened in it. If Tommy came back, that's good enough for them.


MMPR was incredibly bad, it's writing was cheesy, the acting (except for a few people) was generally bad, the stories were predictable, it's budget was shoe string, the dubbing was bad and it was riddled with behind the scenes issues. The best parts of the show were the fights, music and charisma the actors brought. Fans love it for nostalgia, and that's about it. Dino Thunder does get inspiration from MMPR, but in almost every way is better than MMPR

As a general conscious, and a majority view, people don't often pay attention to MMPR for it's acting or writing. They like it because of it's nostalgia. Those people watch Dino Thunder, reminded OF that MMPR nostalgia, that's what I'm getting at.

If you take all un-MMPR related things about Dino Thunder, and put it all into another season with unrelations to MMPR, it wouldn't be the same. Those fans won't care about the good writing, or acting, they won't care if the villain has a consistent terrorizing impact, they won't care about the quality and delivery of emotions, it's the nostalga wave. MMPR was terrible at writing and acting, and yet it's one of the most appreciated seasons. Fans that appreciate Dino Thunder because it's a homage to MMPR, or because of Tommy's presence, are obviously appreciating it because it reminds them of MMPR.

Yes I do think Dino Thunder is a better season than MMPR, because of the reasons you said. And like I said earlier, I don't (by any account) think it's a BAD season, just overrated. The acting was better than MMPR, but it was in no way GRAND. The season is average for me. If it didn't have it's Tommy and MMPR elements, it wouldn't be viewed with an immediate positive mentality.


I never said the show was bad without Tommy, where did you get that? I said he is as much part of the show as any other cast member so there is no reason to imagine the season if he wasn't in it.

That's because the only account you have of the season, is the one produced in this timeline with him in it. You'd have to be a dimension jumper to see otherwise.


The #1 reason I hear people say they don't like DT is because "fanboys just love Tommy", and that is a valid point, but the season has it's own merits. It is one of the only season that knows what it wants to be, it has an interesting and solid story. Characters are memorable, each have their own growth and overcome whatever obstacles they have to. Mesagog is not a complete joke who turns soft and the White Ranger clone/Trent is a very respectable evil Ranger. It does draw parallels but a lot of them are from Abaranger

I know the season has it's own merits, I'm not desputing that. My criticism is not enough fans geuinely appreciate it on it's stand-alone basis.


You can't fault DT because Abaranger was so close to Zyuranger, even if Tommy wasn't in the season, MMPR and DT would still be compared by fans. It's kind of like how In Space had it's overtone from Star Trek, without the whole Star Trek vibe would fans be so receptive?

Sentai seasons can be similar, without a later adaption needing to be an blatent reference (even an obvious adaption) to the former one.

And HOW is PRIS an obvious Star Trek? Because there is a spaceship... in space? Yeah, you'll find that's quite common in most Sci-Fi shows, it's kinda their thing.

[Fenix84]

I actually remember how people reacted to DT on RangerBoard in 2004. Back then fans had standards, and demands from the show. That was before fans sold themselves out for Kalish's continued presence on the board (which didn't last long anyway) and claimed every filler episode was the bestest ever! just because. People criticized DT when storylines stumbled or fell to the wayside. Quite a few people were disappointed in the clip shows (funny how far worse clip shows became a regular occurrence in later seasons), especially since those clip shows came late in the season and they wanted an epic buildup to the finale. A lot of fans thought that the finale was somewhat lacking (again, far worse finales in later years made complaints against this one look really tame). They wanted more from the finale, and they wanted more DT period. People didn't want to see it end.

That's because back then the fans cared. Really cared. They saw how much the season had done right most of the time, so they expected quality all of the time. I remember this, which is why I don't believe the claims about people mindlessly kissing this season's butt just because Tommy was in it.

[Hellion01]

If Tommy pulled out his Zeonizer in that ep and morphed, DT would've been one of the greatest seasons ever...

[OujaStrike]

Epic opening scene to Dino Thunder

[Jiemusu]

which is why I don't believe the claims about people mindlessly kissing this season's butt just because Tommy was in it.

... and what about the automatic underlying immediate praise for the season because of it's MMPR undertones, that they keep watching with the mentality to purposely try to find great things? Hence, 'not wanting it to end', they want to find more things to reinforce and justify the automatic appreciation that was already there.

Not that it applies to all fans. But you're telling me you don't think this is at all possible?

Lightspeed Rescue had terrific writing, but is one of the most hated seasons. PR fans will appreciate any character, as long as they simply make a return. PR fans will like anything, if the situation is set up correctly. As a fanbase, we're very manipulative and shallow. If the show wants us to like something, it will set it up so that we DO.

[Fenix84]

... and what about the automatic underlying immediate praise for the season because of it's MMPR undertones,

Wow, fans will praise a season for actually remembering continuity. Big whoop.


that they keep watching with the mentality to purposely try to find great things?

That was RB in 2005, with its "wait until the finale" catchphrase as a response to anything and everything brought up against SPD. That wasn't the environment during DT's run. People criticized the season when it did things wrong.


Hence, 'not wanting it to end', they want to find more things to reinforce and justify the automatic appreciation that was already there.

So now you're claiming that the response to DT was one big justification effect? Yeah, sure. Maybe, just maybe, people genuinely liked the season?


Not that it applies to all fans. But you're telling me you don't think this is at all possible?

You realize that you haven't done anything at all to support your claims? Without any research, without any quantifiable evidence, you have made big sweeping claims about most DT fans. Want to talk condescendingly about hundreds or thousands of people? Go to RB, dig up old threads from 2004, and count up the number of brainless Tommy wankers as opposed to people who posted responses that showed genuine thought. Then show how the brainless herd effect was any worse during DT than for other seasons.

Of course you won't do that. I, or anyone else, wouldn't do that either. But I or anyone else wouldn't be talking so much crap about so many people. I talk crap about how fascist RB was during SPD, but that's because I have personally experienced it, and can produce numerous posts and threads to back it up.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

He likes being the devil's advocate. Let him. It makes him feel insightful.

[Jiemusu]

If you mean, do I say what needs to be said if no one else does, yes Crayfish I do. Just as much as you have the unhealthy obsession to always need to be right to reinforce your esteem. The difference is, I openly admit and accept what I do, and can openly admit when I'm wrong if I need to.


Wow, fans will praise a season for actually remembering continuity. Big whoop.

You're missing the point. It's about the lack of appreciation for it being a stand alone season, as in appreciating it because of it's direct reference.


So now you're claiming that the response to DT was one big justification effect? Yeah, sure. Maybe, just maybe, people genuinely liked the season?

That's... not what I said, at all. You aren't reading. I'm not saying it's ALL of DT's appreciation, or the mentality of ALL it's fans. If you actually reread some of my posts in this thread, you'll note that I made reference to 'genuine DT fans' as a separate statistic. Meaning, surprise, I'm actually identifying those that DON'T rest their appeciation of DT solely on it's MMPR undertones. I even went as bold as to say I respect those DT fans that DON'T do that. Clearly though, you didn't read this.


You realize that you haven't done anything at all to support your claims? Without any research, without any quantifiable evidence, you have made big sweeping claims about most DT fans. Want to talk condescendingly about hundreds or thousands of people? Go to RB, dig up old threads from 2004, and count up the number of brainless Tommy wankers as opposed to people who posted responses that showed genuine thought. Then show how the brainless herd effect was any worse during DT than for other seasons.

A user in this thread actually used a phrase in his post like "I like Dino Thunder because Tommy came back as the black ranger", which I quoted to highlight, and he later deleted, my quote for that post still remains. People are silly, but they aren't silly enough to post a similar thing straight after I identify the error in people doing that.

But see for yourself, if you go on any other thread, or even Youtube video, focused on Dino Thunder, have a read through the comments, note how many times you see fans praising it because of shallow features like it's MMPR undertones, or Tommy's return. See how many say that they appreciate it for things OUTSIDE of what happens in it.

You won't believe me if I tell you, perhaps not if I show you, so why not see for yourself. You clearly have the mentality to want to experience things first hand. Me telling you isn't going to change your opinion on it.

[Super Jeff]

Its fourth for me, love it. Besides Tommy coming back. I enjoy the MMPR feel it has. You have your stereotypes, then as the season goes on they all break out of them and become their own characters. Trust me, it took me about 3 to 4 times to watch the season for me to like Connor. He seemed to be the one to have the toughest time to break out of the dumb jock but he eventually did.

[President Ranger]

Even if the majority of DT fans liked it because Tommy returned; so what? I'm not a Tommy stan but bringing Tommy back is a huge reason why I liked DT. It made the story more interesting. A former ranger who we all know going on to become a mentor of a team, playing a zordon type role, becoming a full time ranger again, and guiding a team through similar situations that he himself had to go through is one of the better stories in PR. Why are the genuine fans the ones who disregard Tommy's presence in the show?

[jedibloo]

Its fourth for me, love it. Besides Tommy coming back. I enjoy the MMPR feel it has. You have your stereotypes, then as the season goes on they all break out of them and become their own characters. Trust me, it took me about 3 to 4 times to watch the season for me to like Connor. He seemed to be the one to have the toughest time to break out of the dumb jock but he eventually did.

I agree with that. It also has a villain who is very logical and smart and good character development for the rest.

[YellowAccel]

Love It! I love all the rangers (except Tommy). I love zord. I loved the history of white rangers that I find very impressive. The power rangers are nice although I think that of Tommy and Trent looks a little too much. The weapons are cool.

[Vickram101]

I liked it. It was the only one of the epic season of the Disney era.

[Quark]

Oh boy! Now Dino Thunder is another thing people only THINK they like, but in reality have no real reason for liking it.
Trying to think what's next, should I start preparing my argument for why I think the Power Axe is super neato, despite it really just being a sideways Cosmic Cannon?

[Thrax]

PRDT it as really awesome,villans,story,Megazords,rangers are really cool.

[Vickram101]

I was watching my daily 2 eps of DT and I've noticed that the rangers was able to use the stega zord in ep 29, but it was not until ep30 they got back control of it from the evil white ranger. How did that happen?? How did they get to use it before they had control ??

[ForeverBlue]

I love Dino Thunder...its the best Disney season ever made.

It was awesome to see Tommy return :D

[Thrax]

I love Dino Thunder...its the best Disney season ever made.

It was awesome to see Tommy return :D

Yh,Tommy return it as really cool and make is Black ranger it as even better.

[RedWildForceRanger25]

I liked this season, I will admit that the only reason at first I watched it, was because Tommy was back. But hat is wrong with that? I mean the whole reason Disney brought JDF back was to sky rocket the ratings and it worked. I liked this season for other reasons to, I liked that for the first time in a while hey had students as rangers, the two comedic bullies, a strong villain who has a human form who befriends Tommy. The evil white ranger of course this is paying homage to the evil green ranger from MMPR. Even though I didn't like Ninja Storm before this, I liked the team up between the Dino rangers and the Ninja rangers. For me this was the last season I watched all the way through when it was new, my interest was dying quick in this show.

[Jiemusu]

Oh boy! Now Dino Thunder is another thing people only THINK they like, but in reality have no real reason for liking it.
Trying to think what's next, should I start preparing my argument for why I think the Power Axe is super neato, despite it really just being a sideways Cosmic Cannon?

Looks like you completely missed the point, in your haste to jump the gun and attempt sarcastic wit. I never disputed DT for it's genuine merits. I even said that I respect the genuine DT fans for providing that counter measure, I explained this to Fenix again a few posts ago when he made the same mistake. If you actually read my posts too, you probably would have seen that as well.

And apparently, according to Crayfish, I'm the one playing Devil's advocate.

[Thrax]

I liked this season, I will admit that the only reason at first I watched it, was because Tommy was back. But hat is wrong with that? I mean the whole reason Disney brought JDF back was to sky rocket the ratings and it worked. I liked this season for other reasons to, I liked that for the first time in a while hey had students as rangers, the two comedic bullies, a strong villain who has a human form who befriends Tommy. The evil white ranger of course this is paying homage to the evil green ranger from MMPR. Even though I didn't like Ninja Storm before this, I liked the team up between the Dino rangers and the Ninja rangers. For me this was the last season I watched all the way through when it was new, my interest was dying quick in this show.

PRDT it as really awesome i as liked you in the start i just watch because Tommy is there but Disney with DT show Disney show really a diferent scenarion of NS,because in NS it as really much fun in DT is more serious and mature,we have a really evil villan like Mesegog with as twsited and evil he just care about himself he is much like Lord Zedd in MMPR,The Evil white ranger who wants destroys as Dino rangers and even Mesegog,we have old rival to Tommy is old friend it as transform by Mesegog in a cyborg the team up it as perfect see Dino rangers and NS rangers fight together and them Mesegog defeated Lothor.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

You like to think you're being insightful because it allows you to look down your nose at the fandom at large. Eg: "these people are all idiots because they lack my perspective." Seemingly unaware there are pillars of cognizance above your own.

You have... A fifteen year old's concept of scope. You cannot fathom there's tiers higher than yours. It's part of what is SO MADDENING about talking to you when you think you're right. It's not an argument based on "prove me wrong," it's an argument based on "I do not deign things I disagree with worthy of acknowledgment." Yes, there's mouthbreathers in the fandom who like DT exclusively for Tommy. And yet, Tommy is generally the weakest part of DT. He's there to jack the ratings and provide semi-closure for the character. He's a non-element after White Thunder. Even after JDF comes back, he's basically a prop who they might as well keep morphed. The focus of DT IS on the kids and villains. Tommy doesn't grow or change. He's in "epilogue" stage.

I've been in this fandom fifteen years. Fans adored DT because they could criticize it and it held up to scrutiny, and the producers would engage the fans to discuss it. The group mob ethos of "THE FINALE WILL JUSTIFY US ALL" existed for SPD. Not DT. You're treating DT fans as mindless hive-mind yes-men. No, that's SPD fans. You know, the segment of the fandom who blissfully WENT AWAY after their precious season ended. You're allocating scorn to DT that is merited by other seasons because...? You dislike DT? You dislike its fans? I can't even tell. So much of what you do, so much of why I find you insufferable is that you do things to follow your own inner muse. You feel something, so if other people feel the opposite there's this MASSIVE GROUP you are a lone martyr standing up against. Eg: "Adult fans who like the White Ranger era of MMPR." IN ALL MY YEARS IN THIS FANDOM I'VE SEEN LESS THAN TEN PEOPLE WHO MET THIS CRITERIA. And when called on it, you... Acknowledged they existed but weren't vocal. Allowing your metaphor to, in your eyes, stand up even though it's now been completely invalidated. That sense of SCORN and of "if I dislike something people are beset against me" is so... LUDICROUSLY HIGH SCHOOL, and most people on the internet have grown OUT of it.

Part of why I was shocked you and President Ranger were in disagreement over DT is because you both do this. It's why you tag team so well in threads. I had actually started to think you were friends off-board for that reason. Now... Just similar personality type, I guess. Which is sad, because you're one of the smarter people on this board. You just... You KEEP REMINDING ME OF EVERYTHING I HATED ABOUT MYSELF AS A NETIZEN A DECADE AGO.

[Jiemusu]

Pretty much proves my point about you having the unhealthy obsession to always need to be right, the common resort of you needing to insult the other party if they don't share the same view as you. Anything you try and criticize me for, is only something that you do yourself. So if you're frustrated at me, you're frustrated at a part of yourself. Behaviours in arguments that you, yourself, maintain to this day. And yet you don't realize this.

And for the FOURTH time, I didn't say this about ALL DT fans, because I higlighted respect for the genuine fans that break that status quo. I can't believe I've had to say this four times now. Do yourself, Quark and Fenix... not bother to read, but instead just argue for the sake of it because you want to feel right? Who's playing Devils's advocate now?

[President Ranger]

Wow what a hypocrite. The first half of your post describes yourself and yet you criticize Jiemusu for it and out of nowhere throw my name in it even though I didn't say anything to your bald pasty a$$.

[Mr. CD]

Hey guys, why don't you all stop this before it gets ugly.

[Thrax]

Hey guys, why don't you all stop this before it gets ugly.

I agreed Mr.CD !!

[Fenix84]

You're missing the point. It's about the lack of appreciation for it being a stand alone season, as in appreciating it because of it's direct reference.

Give me a break. You know what, I actually did skim through some 2004 RB threads last night. I found plenty of people talking about how they enjoyed the plots, how scary Mesogog was, etc. It's extremely easy to find someone who likes DT for some reason other than Tommy. Even if it's something as shallow as thinking Emma Lahana is hot, that's something else that's totally DT.


That's... not what I said, at all. You aren't reading. I'm not saying it's ALL of DT's appreciation, or the mentality of ALL it's fans. If you actually reread some of my posts in this thread, you'll note that I made reference to 'genuine DT fans' as a separate statistic. Meaning, surprise, I'm actually identifying those that DON'T rest their appeciation of DT solely on it's MMPR undertones. I even went as bold as to say I respect those DT fans that DON'T do that. Clearly though, you didn't read this.

I read you just fine, so you can drop your condescending attitude. On the first page, you said, and I quote, "most people say (in fact, as most replies in this thread will probably be) that they likes it just because Tommy returns as the black ranger." Clearly, you are making claims about a majority of DT fans. Your ego was so great that you even predicted that most of the posts in THIS thread would be nothing but brainless Tommy fanboying. And when confronted with a multitude of people who proved your prediction wrong...you just stuck to your guns and kept insisting that you're right.


A user in this thread actually used a phrase in his post like "I like Dino Thunder because Tommy came back as the black ranger", which I quoted to highlight, and he later deleted, my quote for that post still remains. People are silly, but they aren't silly enough to post a similar thing straight after I identify the error in people doing that.

Ooh, ONE person cited Tommy's return as a good thing about this season, without stating that it was the only thing he liked. Meanwhile, there have been how many people bringing up other things they loved about DT? You're going to have to do better than this.


But see for yourself, if you go on any other thread, or even Youtube video, focused on Dino Thunder, have a read through the comments, note how many times you see fans praising it because of shallow features like it's MMPR undertones, or Tommy's return. See how many say that they appreciate it for things OUTSIDE of what happens in it.

YouTube is an even worse place to look for discussion than the average stupid forum. It's not a site that's set up for intelligent discussion.

I see you still haven't done a thing to prove your claims about numerous other fans, even after I pointed that out in my last post. Vaguely pointing to YouTube does not count. I could do that too. I could point to all the Emma Lahana tributes, clips of Mesogog being a scary badass, or shipper videos. All stuff that's not Tommy related. And unlike you, I can actually bring up specifics if challenged.

[RyanRXP]

And for the FOURTH time, I didn't say this about ALL DT fans, because I higlighted respect for the genuine fans that break that status quo.

I really think you are wrong here. There might be a lot of people that point out that they liked Tommy coming back, but they never say that it is the only reason. They like the season because the like the season. If Tommy is part of why they liked it, there is nothing wrong with that.

I personally think that Tommy was the weakest part of the season. JDF was almost never there and he being a teacher is far from the direction that his character was developing. Plus for him to suddenly be able to make things like Zords or Tyranodrones was just poor writing. However, the season overall did far more right than it did wrong. Plus it was the only season after Space to actually give the cast members multiple outfits(which I think goes a long way to help connect to characters), and the cast was very good. The season also had a much better flow than most Power Ranger seasons.

If you really want to complain about dumb comments about Dino Thunder, complain about how often it is called a MMPR clone(even though it was considerably less like MMPR than most seasons)

[Hears All]

I think it's dumb that someone is trying to tell people they are not real fans of a show. They have their reasons, it really shouldn't matter what those reasons are (no matter how ridiculous) because at the end of the day they like DT.

[Thrax]

PRDT show if Disney wants can really made really awesome seasons !!!

[Hellion01]

Exactly :O

Sadly it is Disneys only good season...well i guess i can say RPM is decent as well.

[TOMMYWALES87]

Another great season, I really got back into Power Rangers from here. Maybe JDF/Tommy was the main attraction of this season but still a good season though regardless. lots of actions, good stories too.
maybe just me but id like to have seen more refferance too Tommys past. maybe him usein his zeo/green powers in emerganceys like the fight at the start or the fanalie. or using his zeo crystal insted of his dino gem in the fighting spirit, For that machine he use to make himself visable. maybe couple of cameos from his past. but that just me.

[BlueLion]

I just finished watching Dino Thunder, and it was absolutely morphenomenal! :D

All the nostalgic value combined with the great story line made it an absolute WIN. :)

[Thrax]

I just finished watching Dino Thunder, and it was absolutely morphenomenal! :D

All the nostalgic value combined with the great story line made it an absolute WIN. :)

DT is pretty awesome and it as great change for to NS to DT because this season it as pretty mature with really cool characters and the concept it as really awesome and DT can show Disney can always make awesome storylines and greats plots.

The Villans are amazing and the Megazords are cool and the plots of Evil White Ranger the ideia of the Villans know the rangers in person and the Villans and the DT rangers are much closer to which other.

[danny28]

I like it coz there are so mysterys defined... and love the characters.. Connor Kira.. but not as ghood as the Jungle Fury and RPM..
and I love the Tommy's new look.. How cool is that?

[Thrax]

I like it coz there are so mysterys defined... and love the characters.. Connor Kira.. but not as ghood as the Jungle Fury and RPM..
and I love the Tommy's new look.. How cool is that?

Really cool and is looks he is the same he see in WF in "Forever Red"

[Lord Kira]

Dino Thunder is the best to come from the Disney era.

I had stopped watching Power Rangers after PRiS, only returning to catch 'Forever Red.'

Yes, when I heard Tommy was returning that was the sole reason I decided to watch the show. But that is not the only reason I like show. I liked the teen characters (who were actually believable), and the villains were interesting. Overall, it was just a fun show for me.

Plus, Kira was hot.

[Thrax]

Dino Thunder is the best to come from the Disney era.

I had stopped watching Power Rangers after PRiS, only returning to catch 'Forever Red.'

Yes, when I heard Tommy was returning that was the sole reason I decided to watch the show. But that is not the only reason I like show. I liked the teen characters (who were actually believable), and the villains were interesting. Overall, it was just a fun show for me.

Plus, Kira was hot.

DI its for shore one of the Bests of Disney of the Power rangers because Disney prove with DT can really made really awesome seasons of PR and with RPM too.

Kira it as really hot, Disney liked much of the Blonds.