Power Rangers Awards

[ForeverRanger]

I just sparked an idea. I was thinking that we should do an awards thing for PR/Ameritoku in general. Have a comity or member vote. With PR entering its 19th year, I think it would be fun.

[OujaStrike]

Sounds like a cool idea

[Digifiend]

Category and winner suggestions (allowing for September 2009 onwards):
Hero of the year: Haim Saban, for saving the PR franchise from cancellation.
Best English language actor: (choose your favourite from RPM or KRDK)
Best Japanese language actor: (choose from Shinkenger, Goseiger, KRW and OOO cast)
Best RPM episode
Best Sentai (Shinken/Gosei) episode
Best Kamen Rider Japanese (W/OOO) episode
Best Dragon Knight episode
The Named and Shamed award for screwing the viewers: Disney XD UK for taking RPM off air without warning a few days after the Saban buyout was announced.
Event of the year: 145 Days of Power Rangers at powerrangers.com

[ForeverRanger]

Best Power Rangers Episode, Worst Power Rangers Episode, Best Team Up, Worst Team Up, Most Valuable Ranger, Most Controversial in Power Rangers (Actor, Ranger, Episode). If you don't mind I would not mind being in the drivers seat for this since it was my idea. Also keep the category suggestions coming. By the end of the week, I will have something in place for voting. And I already know the two people who I would not mind helping me with this.

[Digifiend]

My list was far from complete, and you don't have to take all the suggestions.

[BlkRgr1]

is there anyway you can make this like a voting poll? then we can choose them maybe by the end of the year 2010 have the polls up

[ForeverRanger]

I know I don't. I am going to take around 15 to 20 because there is such a large amount of stuff in PR. I was thinking send your vote to one of three people. Which would be me and two others and then I would tally the votes up and reveal them around the first week of the new year.

[BlkRgr1]

I know I don't. I am going to take around 15 to 20 because there is such a large amount of stuff in PR. I was thinking send your vote to one of three people. Which would be me and two others and then I would tally the votes up and reveal them around the first week of the new year.

Sounds awesome, will do

[ForeverGreen]

I know I don't. I am going to take around 15 to 20 because there is such a large amount of stuff in PR. I was thinking send your vote to one of three people. Which would be me and two others and then I would tally the votes up and reveal them around the first week of the new year.

Or give it plenty of time to get votes and such and reveal them the day of or day before PRS

[Andros]

IMO I Think this needs to be the best of. Not the worst. You dont see the Oscars giving out worst movie of the year awards. And we should stick with the people who played the characters. Not the characters themselves. Again, IMO we should not give out awards for best weapon or vehicle either. Who would it go to? lol

Best Season:
Best Episode:
Best 2 part or more Episode:
Best Supporting Actor:
Best Supporting Actress:
Best Male Unmasked Villain:
Best Female Unmasked Villain
Best Male Villain Voice Over:
Best Female Villain Voice Over:

Best Red Ranger:
Best Blue Ranger:
Best Black Ranger:
Best Green Ranger:
Best Yellow Ranger:
Best Pink Ranger:
(All Best Ranger Categories are for the original teams of 3-5)

Best 6th+ Ranger:
(Rangers such as Whites, Violet etc. Go here as well)

Best Non-Ranger Team Member:
(This Includes Blue Centurion, Shadow Ranger, Magna Defender etc.)

Best Mentor:
MMPR Zordon - PRRPM Dr. K)

Best Director:
Best Producer:
Best Co-Producer:

Best Theme Song:

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These are all just some of my ideas. I will help compile the nomination list as well if you would like me to

[galaxy_ben]

brillant idea :)

we should have a best monster or best mosnter group too

[YellowAccel]

Awesome idea :)

[ForeverGreen]

IMO I Think this needs to be the best of. Not the worst. You dont see the Oscars giving out worst movie of the year awards. And we should stick with the people who played the characters. Not the characters themselves. Again, IMO we should not give out awards for best weapon or vehicle either. Who would it go to? lol

but it's PR we'd have to give it to the characters

[Samurai Pink]

I really like this idea. :) An award show dedicated to the Power Rangers. I love it. :)

[SilverPirate]

IMO I Think this needs to be the best of. Not the worst. You dont see the Oscars giving out worst movie of the year awards. And we should stick with the people who played the characters. Not the characters themselves. Again, IMO we should not give out awards for best weapon or vehicle either. Who would it go to? lol

This is not a good idea because everyone and their dogs are going to vote for as much MMPR material as possible. @_@

How about we categorize each award section by season? Like so:

MMPR S1:
Best Ranger:
Worst Ranger:
Rating of Mentor (Zordon): ??/10

And so on and so forth. =)

[galaxy_ben]

This is not a good idea because everyone and their dogs are going to vote for as much MMPR material as possible. @_@

How about we categorize each award section by season? Like so:

MMPR S1:
Best Ranger:
Worst Ranger:
Rating of Mentor (Zordon): ??/10

And so on and so forth. =)

I completely agree as long as we have best Villain and Monster by season too.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Best co-producer? Isn't "best producer" just easier? You include everyone that way. Most of the later producers were once simply co-producers.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

The Morphies?

[Mr. Pink]

The Spandex Awards

[Thrax]

This is not a good idea because everyone and their dogs are going to vote for as much MMPR material as possible. @_@

How about we categorize each award section by season? Like so:

MMPR S1:
Best Ranger:
Worst Ranger:
Rating of Mentor (Zordon): ??/10

And so on and so forth. =)

Sounds really awesome that ideia !!!

[ForeverRanger]

The Morphies, I like it. Also Digifiend will be one of the two people helping me out with this.

[Andros]

Best co-producer? Isn't "best producer" just easier? You include everyone that way. Most of the later producers were once simply co-producers.

My only issue with that is there are 2 different names on the screen for producer and co-producer. I think even the Oscars have a award for it or something of the sort.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Co-producers are producers paid at a different tier. That is the SOLE distinction. Case in point, the dividing line between senior producer (Jonathan was this for MMPR-Wild Force) and SHOWRUNNING executive producer (Haim and Shuki were this in title only for those years) is a thin one. Single producer credit ONLY makes the most sense.

[Digifiend]

The Morphies, I like it.Cool name. Glad to help.

[ForeverRanger]

Thread title changed and I am going to decide categories with Digi's help.

[SirGreen]

lmao. The morphies I love it! This is a rather cool thread lol. Very interesting!

[danny28]

IMO I Think this needs to be the best of. Not the worst. You dont see the Oscars giving out worst movie of the year awards. And we should stick with the people who played the characters. Not the characters themselves. Again, IMO we should not give out awards for best weapon or vehicle either. Who would it go to? lol

Best Season:
Best Episode:
Best 2 part or more Episode:
Best Supporting Actor:
Best Supporting Actress:
Best Male Unmasked Villain:
Best Female Unmasked Villain
Best Male Villain Voice Over:
Best Female Villain Voice Over:

Best Red Ranger:
Best Blue Ranger:
Best Black Ranger:
Best Green Ranger:
Best Yellow Ranger:
Best Pink Ranger:
(All Best Ranger Categories are for the original teams of 3-5)

Best 6th+ Ranger:
(Rangers such as Whites, Violet etc. Go here as well)

Best Non-Ranger Team Member:
(This Includes Blue Centurion, Shadow Ranger, Magna Defender etc.)

Best Mentor:
MMPR Zordon - PRRPM Dr. K)

Best Director:
Best Producer:
Best Co-Producer:

Best Theme Song:

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These are all just some of my ideas. I will help compile the nomination list as well if you would like me to

I like your effort.. I wish all of these will fill up and likewise my favorites will be included.. ahhaha.. Good Idea.. there should be an awardinbg ceremony for the rangers who give their best to Give us a quality and Powerful Show

[mustang3173]

I'd like to see these categories:

Best non-ranger comic relief
Best main megazord (1st one they get)
Best 6th ranger zord
Best 2nd or 3rd megazord
Best ultrazord
Best evil zord/megazord
Best Cinematography
Best base
Best evil lair


Also best episode seems like too broad of a category. I mean, one out of seven hundred, doesn't seem right. Maybe do like a top 25 or a bunch of sub categories.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Top three seems... Better. Tidier.

[Mr. Pink]

Doesn't the color categorization create issues when Whites are part of the core? ex. Alyssa

[mustang3173]

Top three seems... Better. Tidier.

Or a couple sub-categories:
Best season premier
Best season finale
Best new ranger introduction
Best cliffhanger
Best team-up
Best filler
Best batalizer episode

[SilverPirate]

I still think having a "Best ??? out of all seasons" award is a bad idea; Too many nostalgia-heads are going to fill the ballot with MMPR Rangers. Maybe that could be an award granted near the end, but it shouldn't be anything prominent. I remember going to several polls on another site, polls asking for the best Ranger of each color, and you know who won each one? Jason, Zach, Trini, Kimberly, Billy, and Tommy. Each other Ranger on each list had little to no votes and I felt it wasn't very fair.

[danny28]

Best Battylizer Red Ranger Form

[Digifiend]

I still think having a "Best ??? out of all seasons" award is a bad idea; Too many nostalgia-heads are going to fill the ballot with MMPR Rangers. Maybe that could be an award granted near the end, but it shouldn't be anything prominent. I remember going to several polls on another site, polls asking for the best Ranger of each color, and you know who won each one? Jason, Zach, Trini, Kimberly, Billy, and Tommy. Each other Ranger on each list had little to no votes and I felt it wasn't very fair.Well real award ceremonies only reward recent stuff. Do you think it should be limited to RPM?

[ForeverRanger]

Digi I would rather not do just RPM. My original plan was this to be all of the season, but with the nostalgia fanatics here is my idea. We could do separate awards for MMPR stuff and make the rest from 2nd half of Turbo to present.

[ForeverGreen]

Well real award ceremonies only reward recent stuff. Do you think it should be limited to RPM?

but other award shows have them annually when we've never done this before

[ForeverBlue]

You know what would be a great idea? Is make a PR Nomination Award thread and the first post would consist the list of the Best and Favorite and members would list their nomination. I could make the Nomination thread unless you like to do that W-Skull since you came up with this idea.

[ForeverRanger]

Blue how do I figure into this since this overall thing was my idea.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Not for nothing, but we've had PR fan awards contests for years. I did one myself on alt.fan.power-rangers in '98 (the illustrious Zordies, which culminated in a week and a half long blackout that fried my hard drive). You didn't actually come up with an original idea. If it belongs to the community, isn't that good enough?

[ForeverRanger]

True it does but I like taking charge in this sort of thing. I just hate when I get overruled from something I proposed.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

That doesn't matter. This is a moderated board. The moderation team SHOULD be allowed to control it.

[ForeverRanger]

Again true, but I want to have some control over this, most or some. I am sorry if this upsets people and the moderation team but one of my biggest pet peeves is when people create an idea and they get outruled with little or no say. I am more than happy helping out the moderation team with sorting this, but not being able to help is not going to fly.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Why? You didn't come up with an original idea. You aren't the operator of this board. This is an activity for a group. If you begin placing yourself above the wishes of the group, then you're doing it for self-aggrandizement. A community activity is invisible like that. That kind of ego simply isn't acceptable in communities, or team efforts. Do you think that kind of attitude would fly in something like Morphicon, for example? Dude... It's not about you. It's about your fellow fan.

[ForeverRanger]

I am open to ideas but cutting me out of the overall plan is something I just can't tolerate to any extent. If someone wants to start nominations fine. I just misread what Blue said.

[Super Jeff]

Crayfish is right, its not an original idea. If this board hosted the awards then its only right for the board members to run it.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Again, why does what you can or cannot tolerate a concern? This is a group board. It sinks or swims based on the decisions of others. You gave a suggestion. Have you worked in a think tank before? A writers room? A pitch meeting? Trust me, in group activities... "The room produces the product." Even if you can identify the individual source (eg: A Graham Chapman joke), the Python writers as a group wrote it. This diminishes ego and entitlement. You are being disproportionately egotistical. Other people are contributing CRUCIAL INFORMATION, like subjects, a nominations process, etc. That's not your creation anymore. It's the group's.

[mustang3173]

Crayfish I think Skull is just trying to be one of the writers in the room. I think he wants to be involved because he brought up the idea.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

And he is. But it's a team effort. The writers in the room still answer to the network executives. Case in point, the moderation team.

Look, if he did this on his own, on a livejournal or something, more power to him. Set all the rules he wants. Some girl did that a few years ago for PR fanfics, and declared the only permissible eras were MMPR-Zeo, because "nothing else was classic." By which she meant, she'd never seen anything after Good as Gold. Understand, this girl was INSANE... But she was allowed to be. She created the venue for her awards ceremony. If she had tried it here or on RB, someone would have taken it over and her draconian rules would never have been permitted. Making rules to suit yourself diminishes the fun of the group.

(the larger fandom did ultimately get her to admit she'd do a later award ceremony for Turbo-LG run by someone else with her blessing and on her livejournal, but we all knew it was a lie done to placate people)

[mustang3173]

Well if he did do this on a blog, it would just be his opinion. I think he suggested this here to get some people to help him figure out the winners.

[ForeverRanger]

Actually not a bad idea. My blog is in the advertisment. I just want to be involved in a creative roll. That is all I ask.

Think about if Ahmit was fired and then Scorpion Rain was actually made. How do you think he would feel? Happy maybe but overall upset that he had come up with it and never had any say in it.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

* sigh *

How did you not get the point I just made. She ran it on her livejournal so people could WRITE TO HER DIRECTLY to tabulate the results. She was not subordinate to the whims of a moderation team or a hosting party. Ballots were given to her, and she tabulated them. The more cynical among us often thought she did this specifically so she could stuff the ballots to suit her own agenda, but that's not the point. SHE held the award ceremony herself.

[ForeverBlue]

Blue how do I figure into this since this overall thing was my idea.

D'oh, meant to type your name not his lol

[Peanut Brittle]

I like how the only example you want to give to W-Skull about a circumstance he seems to want involves a person you think is insane.

[ForeverRanger]

To Blue: Oh OK. No problem there and I am fine with you making it since you can edit the polls. Problem solved. Sorry about all the issues.

Again I am as open as can be to ideas. To think all these problems were caused by a typo.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Actually not a bad idea. My blog is in the advertisment. I just want to be involved in a creative roll. That is all I ask.

Think about if Ahmit was fired and then Scorpion Rain was actually made. How do you think he would feel? Happy maybe but overall upset that he had come up with it and never had any say in it.

Wow, the extent of things wrong in that...

AMIT didn't create Scorpion Rain. Derik did. Amit played Tommy in the video. That's the full extent of his role in proliferating the hoax beyond going along with Derik's lies that it existed in the first place to fans. It was AMIT'S decision to acknowledge Scorp in Forever Red. Derik had no input on this, nor was he notified. He didn't care. Amit was his friend. Amit didn't get to execute the Hexagon plot for Ninja Storm, but Doug tried to acknowledge it out of respect because a select group of fans prompted him what PRNS under Village Roadshow had just invalidated.

When people have asked Amit what Scorpion Rain is, he's given two answers. "I have no idea what Scorpion Rain is" and "ask Derik/Chris." And no, Amit does not deserve to be hired to do Scorpion Rain. Neither, for that matter, does Derik. Amit did work for hire on a program he has no ownership rights for. Do you think Jackie or Judd had a right to be consulted for Reinforcements From the Future? They weren't. In fact, Jackie acknowledged how much she enjoyed the work Amit did for Reinforcements. She enjoyed that storyline purely as a fan. It doesn't matter that she wrote the episodes that introduced those characters, or fleshed them out. Disney owned them, and Disney had the right to do whatever they wanted with them.

The whole auteur theory falls apart in a world of work-for-hire. Saban Entertainment owns Power Rangers and can do whatever they want with it. SABAN doesn't owe ANYONE ANYTHING. If you sign that contract, you waive your rights to your intellectual property. This is how professional writing WORKS. It doesn't matter that Amit rewrote 80% of The Master's Last Stand himself. Derek Rydall got the byline for it. The writer's room decided who the author of that individual episode was. It was Rydall. Katie Torpey didn't get fired for Sing Song, even though she is supposedly wrote it. Burgen Williams got fired for Sing Song, because she approved it while the executive staff was hammering out work on Forever Red.

What's classy and what is morally fair are not one and the same. Not in the real world. Not in business. Not when you don't own the material. In a perfect world, Derik Smith would be the person writing the novelization of Scorpion Rain. Derik is not going to be the person who does that.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I like how the only example you want to give to W-Skull about a circumstance he seems to want involves a person you think is insane.

She is insane. But she was morally correct to act as she did. That's my point. What I think of her is immaterial. She handled the situation in a reasoned manner.

[ForeverRanger]

OK now that the whole situation has been taken care of, shall we get back to the topic at hand and that being the categories and suggestions for The Morphies?

This is to Mr Blue: This whole situation started because of your initial post saying Andros and not me.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I went to the trouble of refuting factual problems your comments. I have made a point to explain to you the realities of work for hire, and the idea that you don't retain intellectual property on these sorts of matters (hell, there's a waiver for most message boards stipulating the mods are free to do WHATEVER THEY WANT with your content, hence why they're allowed to edit non-trolling posts). I would like you to extend me that same courtesy and make the effort to engage me in a conversation, as you started that. I'd like to hear your thoughts in a reasoned and non adversarial tone, which I've tried to extend. Thank you.

[mustang3173]

* sigh *

How did you not get the point I just made. She ran it on her livejournal so people could WRITE TO HER DIRECTLY to tabulate the results. She was not subordinate to the whims of a moderation team or a hosting party. Ballots were given to her, and she tabulated them. The more cynical among us often thought she did this specifically so she could stuff the ballots to suit her own agenda, but that's not the point. SHE held the award ceremony herself.
oh, never mind *facepalm*

[ForeverRanger]

And the categories for the Best and Greatest Awards have been posted in another thread.

[danny28]

Can We Suggest this to FuryDiamond.. We Can have a series of of nominations and Votations..