Power Rangers Samurai Pre-Discussion Thread 5

[Mr. Gold]

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Pre-Discussion Thread 5

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CAST

Rangers

Alex Heartman as Jayden
Najee De-Tiege as Kevin
Hector David Jr. as Mike
Brittany Pirtle as Emily
Erika Fong as Mia
Steven Skyler as Gold Ranger (name unknown)

Allies

Rene Naufahu as Ji
Felix Ryan as Spike
????? as Big Mack (name likely to change)
????? as Princess Megan (name subject to change)

Villains

????? as Xandred (name subject to change)
????? as Juzo (name subject to change)


Summary
A new generation of Power Rangers must master the mystical and ancient Samurai Symbols of Power which give them control over the elements of Fire, Water, Sky, Forest, and Earth. Under the guidance of their all-knowing mentor and the aid of their devoted animal Zords, they battle the dark forces of the Netherworld and a mysterious Warrior bent on destruction.


Premiere Date:
February 7, 2010, 8PM EST (check your local listings)


Episode Guide:
01) The Team Unites (2/7/2011)


Teasers / Promos:
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Known Information


Saban has made a new deal with Namco Bandai Games and Bandai of America, for video games and toys, respectively.
700 old episodes (original, non-reversioned MMPR to RPM) will air on Nicktoons alongside the new season when it premieres.
The season will be an adaptation of Samurai Sentai Shinkenger, the 33rd season of the Super Sentai franchise, and will contain 40 episodes.
Filming is taking place in New Zealand. American actors have been casted as the Rangers (see above). Supporting and villain roles will most likely have New Zealand/Australian actors casted.
Jonathan Tzachor (MMPR to Wild Force) will return and be in charge of the new season. Tony Oliver will also be returning to work on the new season.
Saban is making deals for a movie, and nothing else has been announced thus far. It will most likely be through Paramount, which Nickelodeon is allied with. Nickelodeon has been developing a new film division, with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles being one of the productions.
The Power Rangers left the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida on August 7, 2010, according to a cast member at Intercot boards and the Daily Disney blog.
PR left ABC Kids during the Labo[u]r Day weekend, after MMPRv2 finished airing. PR has also left Disney XD UK, according to a fellow member (Digifiend).
MarVista Entertainment (http://marvista.net) will handle international distribution of PR.
The title has been confirmed as Power Rangers Samurai. As well, the Rangers' names have been revealed (see above).
A New Zealand actress has been cast as an extra, according to DarkBlaze.
According to License! Magazine (http://www.licensemag.com/licensemag/Executive+Moves/Saban-Brands-Strengthens-Exec-Team/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/692676?contextCategoryId=47771), Mary Rafferty will be the vice president of toys for Saban Brands, and Rob Hughes will be the marketing director for PR.
The Rangers made an appearance at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade on November 25.
The Power Rangers Samurai page is now up on Nick's official website: http://www.nick.com/shows/power-rangers-samurai
New Zealand actress Linda Hickin (http://www.aucklandactors.co.nz/actors/linda-hickin/view-details.html) will be playing the role of "Hannah's Mother". Since neither of the female Rangers are named Hannah, this of course means that somebody else will be playing a character named Hannah in the show.
Family Channel in Canada and Televisa in Mexico will also be airing the show.
Nicholas Varley & Noah Kaniel will be the composers for the music of Samurai.


Stay tuned for more information as it comes. This post will be updated with new news when they are revealed, so check back here from time to time.

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[NCBradin]

Only six more weeks left! Unbelievable!

[O.92]

I'm sure I've missed something, but when was it ever confirmed that the premiere date is February 5? And if so, do we know at what time?

[OujaStrike]

From the New York Post.

Power Rangers Samurai' are in service

As the latest super powered party of five enters the fray, a cheaply crafted bad guy cackles, "well, it's about time!" But after watching two and a half minutes from the series premiere of "Power Rangers Samurai," I'm not so sure that these heroes were worth holding out for.

Yes, the newly relaunched installment has all the horrible hallmarks we've come to expect from the franchise -- shoddy acting, terrible costumes, cheesy dialogue -- but I am taking serious umbrage with one particular alteration.

The medallions of power -- which each member thrusts in unison when it is deemed Morphin' Time -- have transformed into cell phones. Not to give the bad guys any ideas here, but wouldn't a masterplan that involves interrupting all cell service render them powerless? Just asking.

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/power_rangers_samurai_are_in_service_up4SYZ4TH8dQM oZ8uG16MJ

[NCBradin]

I'm sure I've missed something, but when was it ever confirmed that the premiere date is February 5? And if so, do we know at what time?

Probably around 8pm, that's my best guess.

[OujaStrike]

I'm sure I've missed something, but when was it ever confirmed that the premiere date is February 5? And if so, do we know at what time?

The Power Rangers Site had a countdown clock which would be Feb 5th, i would like it to be a prime time slot for Samurai but i think it will be on around 8 or 9 am

[NCBradin]

The Power Rangers Site had a countdown clock which would be Feb 5th, i would like it to be a prime time slot for Samurai but i think it will be on around 8 or 9 am

In the morning? I don't think so. I just predicted that a prime time slot for Samurai around 7pm or 8pm in the evening, Samurai would get that decent ratings. I think it's a bad move if you put Samurai on the morning block. I think it's best if it's on the evening block, so it would get that decent ratings.

[OujaStrike]

In the morning? I don't think so. I just predicted that a prime time slot for Samurai around 7pm or 8pm in the evening, Samurai would get that decent ratings. I think it's a bad move if you put Samurai on the morning block. I think it's best if it's on the evening block, so it would get that decent ratings.

I want it to be prime time but i don't think it will be, hope i'm wrong

[NCBradin]

Well, kids today are so lazy. I tended to think that if we do want samurai to have decent ratings, then it will have to be in the evening, not in the morning. Don't you remember during the Disney Era, yes? Now, we will have to wait and see if it's going to be in the evening or not.

[OujaStrike]

The Next few weeks we should find out the Time for PR Samurai

[ForeverGreen]

Well, kids today are so lazy. I tended to think that if we do want samurai to have decent ratings, then it will have to be in the evening, not in the morning. Don't you remember during the Disney Era, yes? Now, we will have to wait and see if it's going to be in the evening or not.

7 am ratings would suck compared to 7 pm I think they'll show it at night around the same time as Dragonball whenever that airs being I don't watch nick too much

[NCBradin]

7 am ratings would suck compared to 7 pm I think they'll show it at night around the same time as Dragonball whenever that airs being I don't watch nick too much

My thoughts exactly! We will have to find out soon enough.

[Vickram101]

Here's a better version of the pic I made for ranger vision:
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc327/TROV101/hry3ph.png?t=1290562680

[Red Nature Ranger]

From the New York Post.

Power Rangers Samurai' are in service


http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/power_rangers_samurai_are_in_service_up4SYZ4TH8dQM oZ8uG16MJ

Um yeah. Where have these guys been? its been cell phones for years...

[OujaStrike]

Um yeah. Where have these guys been? its been cell phones for years...

yeah i like the look of the Samuraizer, but not the other phone morphers

[Digifiend]

Excellent, you got rid of the ugly jagged edges. Get this in the first post ASAP.

[Vickram101]

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/power_rangers_samurai_are_in_service_up4SYZ4TH8dQM oZ8uG16MJ

Spoken Like true idiots that don't know about sentai or the older PR series aside from MMPR.


Excellent, you got rid of the ugly jagged edges. Get this in the first post ASAP.

everything was redone from scratch.

[Digifiend]

Spoken Like true idiots that don't know about sentai or the older PR series aside from MMPR.I've just posted a comment telling the writer to do his research and pointing out the existence of the Growlphones.

[Mr. Gold]

Excellent, you got rid of the ugly jagged edges. Get this in the first post ASAP.

Done and done.

[OujaStrike]

Great work on the Pic

[Vickram101]

Thanks OujaStrike and Mr Gold. Please Credit me.

[Hears All]

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwra...H8dQMoZ8uG16MJ

This would have indeed benefited from some research. This is a kids show that has been bad for years, so these guys should expect an average children's show

[President Ranger]

This is a kids show that has been bad for years, so these guys should expect an average children's show

"the newly relaunched installment has all the horrible hallmarks we've come to expect from the franchise."

[Barracuda]

They have to understand that this is a kids series, the series is not meant to entertain older PR Fans (currently). I suspect a corny beginning in the series but as the series grows, they'll get better and better. Just like MMPR, in my opinion MMPR was not getting my attention until the Green Ranger arrived. The plot developed more after Tommy's appearance (IMO), besides there will be 2 seasons of Samurai one season may be bad to some people and season 2 may be better than the 1st.

[Blueranger]

"the newly relaunched installment has all the horrible hallmarks we've come to expect from the franchise."

Yet, It's a brand that has been around longer than his career as a writer. It's also a household name and it's very marketable everywhere.

That's just a horrible thing to expect from the franchise.

[Quark]

Very marketable, huh?

[Super Jeff]

Its almost....Magical....

[Peanut Brittle]

They have to understand that this is a kids series, the series is not meant to entertain older PR Fans (currently). I suspect a corny beginning in the series but as the series grows, they'll get better and better. Just like MMPR, in my opinion MMPR was not getting my attention until the Green Ranger arrived. The plot developed more after Tommy's appearance (IMO), besides there will be 2 seasons of Samurai one season may be bad to some people and season 2 may be better than the 1st.

Tommy propelled the show financially and was super rad and we all loved him when we were five, but he's a dull *** character until, like, DinoThunder.

My favorite chunk of MMPR as I am now is probably the really early pre-Tommy stuff where everything had a glorious 80's cartoon anarchy to it. Like how ThunderCats would randomly have cyborg pirates show up.

[Thrax]

They have to understand that this is a kids series, the series is not meant to entertain older PR Fans (currently). I suspect a corny beginning in the series but as the series grows, they'll get better and better. Just like MMPR, in my opinion MMPR was not getting my attention until the Green Ranger arrived. The plot developed more after Tommy's appearance (IMO), besides there will be 2 seasons of Samurai one season may be bad to some people and season 2 may be better than the 1st.

In MMPR the show becames much better when Tommy arrived as Evil Green ranger and them they starts to make really good plots with MMPR, that could happen with PRS but all depends the way of the things are made because they have 43 episodes to show but much will depends of the PRS 20 episodes to start.

[Barracuda]

Tommy propelled the show financially and was super rad and we all loved him when we were five, but he's a dull *** character until, like, DinoThunder.

My favorite chunk of MMPR as I am now is probably the really early pre-Tommy stuff where everything had a glorious 80's cartoon anarchy to it. Like how ThunderCats would randomly have cyborg pirates show up.

I agree with you.


In MMPR the show becames much better when Tommy arrived as Evil Green ranger and them they starts to make really good plots with MMPR, that could happen with PRS but all depends the way of the things are made because they have 43 episodes to show but much will depends of the PRS 20 episodes to start.

Well there is going to be a movie too. Maybe if not the current season does not produce enough rating maybe the movie will. But Saban knows what to do.

[DarkBlaze]

Thanks to LinearRanger via twitter, it appears that Nickelodeon has added the Power Rangers Samurai launch trailer on their Podcast section on iTunes. You can view it for FREE. I suggest keeping an eye out on that section, just in case they add other content.

[President Ranger]

Yet, It's a brand that has been around longer than his career as a writer. It's also a household name and it's very marketable everywhere.

That's just a horrible thing to expect from the franchise.

Horrible or not, it is what we as fans expect from the franchise. Shoddy acting (although not always), terrible costumes, and cheesy dialogue is power rangers. The guy who wrote this hit the nail on the head in that aspect of the show. Although he dropped the ball with the morpher complaint given how long the show has been using cell phones.

[Samurai Pink]

Well I think that this show will be a success. By the looks of it. I wonder when we'll see a premeire promo show up on Nick. The only ranger teams I know that used cell phones was Wild Force and Mystic Force.

[CycloneMetal]

Looks like the Samurai theme song WILL be a close arrangement to Go Go Power Rangers. http://www.aac-stunts.co.jp/nz/2010/12/post_101.html

[YellowAccel]

The only ranger teams I know that used cell phones was Wild Force and Mystic Force.

You have forgotten Operation Overdrive and RPM.

[Digifiend]

Looks like the Samurai theme song WILL be a close arrangement to Go Go Power Rangers. http://www.aac-stunts.co.jp/nz/2010/12/post_101.htmlJapanese site - translation:
This time there was just returning to SABAN,
The theme song ♪ GO GO POWERRANGERS something arrangement very close to ♪,In other words, remix. Wouldn't surprise me if the segment that played in season 1's titles with Rita and Zordon's dialogue gets swapped out for a lyricless version of the chan chan bara part of Shinkenger's theme, before seguing to Go Go Power Rangers where the lyrics start. I'm basing that on the background music we heard in the morph and fight clip. Of course, the lyrics will say Samurai instead of Mighty Morphin.

[Fury Diamond]

Thanks to LinearRanger via twitter, it appears that Nickelodeon has added the Power Rangers Samurai launch trailer on their Podcast section on iTunes. You can view it for FREE. I suggest keeping an eye out on that section, just in case they add other content.

Let's not forget Zune users :)
iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/nickelodeon/id410332902
Zune: http://social.zune.net/podcast/Nickelodeon/be474b95-3e66-4b36-904e-18f869dbb643

[Daniel 1 Red]

Ha! awesome. Going to check out that podcast. Great links guys

[Spider-Phoenix]

I don't mind with the new theme song being a bit MMPR alike. As long as it has a good sound, i'm completly okay with it XD

[BlueLion]

The season feels a lot like a new MMPR.

Of course, they don't exactly say "It's Morphin' Time," but they do certainly say "Go Go Samurai."
Plus, the theme song, from the information we are able to derive thus far from the material that has already been given, sounds like a remastered version of the original "Go Go Power Rangers" theme song. In other words, PRS is gonna be emanating loads of nostalgic quality, yet giving us a breath of fresh air and something totally new...kind of. Haha...

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It's going to be a literal translation of Shinkenger using the MMPR theme song and a retro-derived morphing call.

Seriously, why do people keep insisting it's going to be MMPR again? Just because Saban bought the franchise back? Yeah, and Time Force was SOOOOO MMPR-esque.

[CycloneMetal]

Because people are dumb. and they've got nothing better to do with their time.

[theultamitezeo]

hmm i was not expecting the morph call to be go go samurai.

[SilverPirate]

So essentially the show is going to be a mixture of old and new... Sounds unique. =D

[ForeverBlue]

For those who are complaining about Samurai being like MMPR...just be glad that Saban bought the franchise back and enjoy it while it last.

If Saban wants Samurai be like MMPR in a way, he can do that. He might do the same thing for the future adaptations if Samurai does well first...you never know what he might do. Saban is just trying to get the show back to the way it used to be.

[Thrax]

For those who are complaining about Samurai being like MMPR...just be glad that Saban bought the franchise back and enjoy it while it last.

If Saban wants Samurai be like MMPR in a way, he can do that. He might do the same thing for the future adaptations if Samurai does well first...you never know what he might do. Saban is just trying to get the show back to the way it used to be.

Well i dont see nothing wrong of PRS be like MMPR because they just want to lauch the Show again but for shore PRS will like the past show have plot.

[Red Nature Ranger]

For those who are complaining about Samurai being like MMPR...just be glad that Saban bought the franchise back and enjoy it while it last.

If Saban wants Samurai be like MMPR in a way, he can do that. He might do the same thing for the future adaptations if Samurai does well first...you never know what he might do. Saban is just trying to get the show back to the way it used to be.

Agreed. People are way to used to Disney's crap. lol

[Vickram101]

^ Tell me about it. People, relax, lets just watch the series before we get ahead of ourselves.

[Thrax]

^ Tell me about it. People, relax, lets just watch the series before we get ahead of ourselves.

Really, wait for the season airing and enjoy PRS and them we can give the opinion for this new season.

[OujaStrike]

For those who are complaining about Samurai being like MMPR...just be glad that Saban bought the franchise back and enjoy it while it last.

If Saban wants Samurai be like MMPR in a way, he can do that. He might do the same thing for the future adaptations if Samurai does well first...you never know what he might do. Saban is just trying to get the show back to the way it used to be.

Totally Agree

[TZMhero]

I'd say that trying to get a series back into the mainstream as the number one show for kids while using elements of the most well known version of the series to do is a good idea. I know it's going to be a Shinkenger rip, but I'm fine with that, but mostly because I never watched Shinkenger, and so i can take this with less bias as someone who may have both seen and enjoyed the source footage. I just can't wait till Saban starts alowing PR to be a true adaptation and and stop trying to be a translation of the series, but then again thats playing it safe, seeing as the only people that will have a beaf with that isn't even in the target audiance. We will get a truly great show... but that might take a few years. Either way, I'm excited, shinken rip or not.

[Fury Diamond]

It's always fun to see the fandom's reaction to an upcoming season. Fans should be glad that the show is back on rather than complaining about it. I have my rants from a few trailers, but a trailer is a trailer. Sometimes a trailer over sells a season and sometimes it doesn't. The best thing to do is wait for the season and enjoy. If the show turns out great...sweet! I loved Shinkenger, so I'm looking forward to the direct translation of the show and to see what surprises that Saban may throw in.

[ForeverGreen]

it's always fun to see the fandom's reaction to an upcoming season. Fans should be glad that the show is back on rather than complaining about it. The best thing to do is wait for the season and enjoy. If the show turns out great...sweet! I loved shinkenger, so i'm looking forward to the direct translation of the show and to see what surprises that saban may throw in.

qft !

[NCBradin]

It's always fun to see the fandom's reaction to an upcoming season. Fans should be glad that the show is back on rather than complaining about it. I have my rants from a few trailers, but a trailer is a trailer. Sometimes a trailer over sells a season and sometimes it doesn't. The best thing to do is wait for the season and enjoy. If the show turns out great...sweet! I loved Shinkenger, so I'm looking forward to the direct translation of the show and to see what surprises that Saban may throw in.

QFT!!! I couldn't agree with you more, bro!

[Mr. Gold]

It's always fun to see the fandom's reaction to an upcoming season. Fans should be glad that the show is back on rather than complaining about it. I have my rants from a few trailers, but a trailer is a trailer. Sometimes a trailer over sells a season and sometimes it doesn't. The best thing to do is wait for the season and enjoy. If the show turns out great...sweet! I loved Shinkenger, so I'm looking forward to the direct translation of the show and to see what surprises that Saban may throw in.

Amen to that! :D

[Cmdr Crayfish]

You're saying it isn't our place to complain about a methodology Jonathan Tzachor is dead-set on enforcing in defiance of whether or not the season calls for it? This is the same, VALID, issue I've had since Lightspeed Rescue. Time Force and Wild Force's worst moments were entirely endemic of this. I'm not going to thank the staff for giving us a season just because it's on the air. That's... Disgusting toadyism. We, as a FANDOM, have a right to be upset with the underlying mechanics of the season. I'm not one of those fans who noticed Emily's kanji is slightly wrong. I've been in this fandom for FIFTEEN YEARS, and I'm speaking to a decision made by the production regime years ago that I COMPLAINED ABOUT YEARS AGO.

I'm sorry, Mesh, that's wrong. Jonathan doesn't adapt because he thinks this is a story that demands to be told. He adapts because he's a mindless fanboy. He'll do the same year after year after year. Even when the social and cultural mores don't translate. Even when the entire weight of the original Sentai has to be removed for the sake of appeasing the US censors. That is not talent. That is not skill. That is moronic. Don't EVER tell me we aren't allowed to complain about that. A diet of bland, tasteless pabulum DEMANDS to be challenged! Sentai for Sentai's sake, and not Sentai because Sentai did something fantastic... Thinking like that gave us a seven episode Zen-Aku storyline when they could have done the same damn plot, BETTER, in three. But they aren't wired to think like that. Literal translation is lazy. It is not talent. It is not skill.

Fans complaining about how poorly Time Force ended got us Reinforcements From the Future. Fans complaining about Ninja Storm got us the end of the season rewritten and the ENTIRETY OF DINO THUNDER. We have EVERY damned right to complain, Mesh!

[Fury Diamond]

I didn't say there is anything wrong with complaining. I just find it funny that this happens every season before the show airs. If fans are stating valid comments and rants about improvements for the show, then that's awesome. I put my two cents about the morph preview last week. I am hoping that my "morph" rant gets heard because I am probably one of the few peeps that disliked it. But on the flip side, there are fans that are just ranting for the sake of ranting. I personally didn't watch the MMPR V2 because I thought it was pure garbage (IMO) with the special effects.

I do agree with you that the direct translation is pure lazy. I do hope that give us a US Shinkenger with some crazy surprises, but that's just me. If the right peeps (writers, producers..etc) can keep an eye on these forums and feed out the appropriate comments and acknowledge them, then that would be ideal. As you mentioned in your post, you have been fighting that battle for years. Now that we are getting 40 (or more) episodes, we are definitely going to see a good amount of filler episodes that could be reduced to a minimum.

My personal belief is that there is minimal that can be said from watching the trailer. One of my favorite teasers was the PRLR one. It really got me into the show because the quality bar of the trailer was fairly high...the season not so much.

[RedWildForceRanger25]

I for one, am thrilled to death that Power Rangers is back in the competent minds of Saban. For a while I thought Power Rangers was never going to air again, new or repeats. I can't wait for everything to start, I will watch all of it. I really don't watch Sentai, so I have no biased opinions in that way, actors being goofy or things like that don't bother me either. Bring on the Power Rangers.

[CycloneMetal]

I could care LESS if Jonathan rips Sentai or not. I know I'm not in the target audience, and I know that the target audience doesn't give a damn either way. So why should I?

[Fury Diamond]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

[adamclark83]

I wonder if we will get profiles for the Rangers?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I could care LESS if Jonathan rips Sentai or not. I know I'm not in the target audience, and I know that the target audience doesn't give a damn either way. So why should I?

Because an adaptation done with a keen eye has the luxury of hindsight. It can pick and choose what did or did not work about the original. Say what you will about modern BSG, it did a far more analytical job transposing the Book of Mormon into the setting.

Jonathan does not want Power Rangers to be analytical like that. He wants to reshoot the Sentai, shot by shot and frame by frame, and release it. No analysis of the underlying substance. No fixing mistakes in the source material. What the Sentai gets wrong, the Power Rangers hack gets wrong. Worse, what the Sentai gets right that the US censors won't allow? Is simply hacked out and never acknowledged for its absence. This is why The End of Time falls apart. It's doing the Timeranger finale, minus the best parts of the Timeranger finale, with no stated explanation for the timeholes (because that's in a subplot of Timeranger we didn't use, but the portals still show up because it's a literal translation) and mashing Ransik and Frax's storylines in around the corners.

This is stupid, uncritical, sophomoric writing. We have every right to hate the fact Jonathan is ripping off the Sentai BECAUSE IT'S THE SENTAI. There is no deeper appreciation for the Sentai as an entity unto itself that makes its own mistakes. I have LITERALLY no belief Jonathan Tzachor can be analytical about Sentai. He is a mindless fanboy, just as PR itself has. He loves it so much he wants to redo it exactly each and every time. Which... God, as much as I hate Dragon Knight? At least the Wangs and Long DID believe it was its own entity and not Ryuki. They still fell victim to the same problems, but they didn't SET OUT TO.

[adamclark83]

The news about the Samurai theme song, what if it is similar to the Zeo theme song where the first 3/4 is Zeo with the last being the "Go Go Power Rangers" rendition?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

I'd play up the wacky hijinks and comedic slapstick, interspersed with the action sequences. I'd aim very hard for the market saturation of the two things Nick does. Action shows (Avatar, Danny Phantom) and comedy (Spongebob, Fairly Oddparents). Make it so kids only passingly familiar with PR genuinely want to tune into this. Style disparity is really where PR gets its audiences.

(as Royce nicely said at PMC, quoting something our own Mugenhunt talked with her about Saturday morning, PR worked because the teens are role models in and out of costume in completely different ways, and I feel you need to get back to PR working on more levels than just "are time travelers/ninjas/space cops.")

[SteveBater]

I'm not one of those fans who noticed Emily's kanji is slightly wrong. I've been in this fandom for FIFTEEN YEARS, and I'm speaking to a decision made by the production regime years ago that I COMPLAINED ABOUT YEARS AGO

I take offense to this as i'm the one who complained about the kanji.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It's no different from the fact the Power Morphers say "Zyuranger" half the time. It's a mistake. Those are going to happen.

[PowerSentai333]

I wonder if the Gedoushuu scenes in the Sanzu River will be altered when Juuzo shows up in his human form. At least they can work the Rokumon Ship scenes since there aren't any human-ish villans besides Juuzo so they won't have to bare MMPR's burden like with Scorpina (even though Rita became the iconic villan of the show).

[Mr. Green]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

I'll tell you once I'm done with it :p

[President Ranger]

I could care LESS if Jonathan rips Sentai or not. I know I'm not in the target audience, and I know that the target audience doesn't give a damn either way. So why should I?

I completely agree with this and I think most fans probably feel this way about it to. I understand and agree with the point that it is lazy for them to do it but at the same time its really a non issue to me. Especially when its being bit*hed about pre season. At least wait to see what happens. Also, lets not forget that completely original stories in PR can be crap as well. You think OO would have been worst if it was a sentai copy cat?

[Hears All]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

A bunch of explosions and no story...just like the real show

[SirGreen]

I dont remember but will ron wassermon(sp) be involved with music?

[Mr. Green]

I dont remember but will ron wassermon(sp) be involved with music?

That would be a no, unfortunately.

[SirGreen]

Thanks Mr. Green!

[SteveBater]

It's no different from the fact the Power Morphers say "Zyuranger" half the time. It's a mistake. Those are going to happen.

yeah i know. i was kidding. :P

[Super Jeff]

That would be a no, unfortunately.

As tommy would say Awwwwwwwwwwwwww man

[OujaStrike]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

Former Rangers returning but as Evil Rangers

[SirGreen]

^ that would be epic

[-sdp]

I don't really like the MMPR things they are trying to add to PRS, they just don't feel right for the season and feel like a cheap way to call back the first seasons. I mean if the theme was different and it was going back to teenagers in high school I would not mind it but since its apparently going to just adapt shinkenger I don't like it too much. Don't get me wrong, I still like that they are doing it but I would prefer they would have saved it for a more fitting place.

As far as the trailer, I didn't find it terribly exciting, it seems more of the same which is fine with me, I mean I'm not too picky of a fan, what makes PRs fun to me are the essentials that every season is bound to have which is why I enjoy the Disney seasons but I can see people not liking it, I don't feel PRS will be much different than the past few years. Since I don't watch Sentai I also don't mind if they mostly translate it into PRs as long as they add it to the PR continuity. Yeah I like original seasons but both shows are still essentially the same thing for the most part since they share a lot of the same footage. I do like change though so I don't mind if the fandom complains and we get a better product out of it, but even if it doesn't happen I'll still be able to enjoy it.

I am almost positive PRS is going to be a very divisive season, half the people will hate it and the other half will like it and only because its Saban. If PRS had been a Disney season I bet most of the fandom would be hating on the trailer and the show as it airs, but since its Saban again then half the fandom will still defend it. Hopefully I'm wrong but thats what I think will happen, I am also positive that regardless of what the fandom thinks I'll be able to enjoy it.

[Thrax]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

If i made a teaser for this season could show the rangers,Zords and the Villans and Evil Rangers.

[Rheannan]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

Something humorous but not too cheesy, such as not being able to get the zords in the right order. :D

[mnikolic]

I was reading trough this thread and if I may, I would like to state my opinion.

I like the fact that they're going back to the basics. I mean, the show needs something refreshing and new. The morphing call and the re-mixed MMPR theme as morphing background music are a nice addition to the show. The lines might be cheesy and the acting might be goofy, but that will be only for the first couple of episodes in my opinion. By the end of Samurai, the acting will get better and better. In other words, Saban is resuming the show from the point where he left it. Besides, he didn't produce a single PR episode for the last 7 years.

I can't wait for the premiere. I know it will be awesome. :D

[YellowAccel]

I don't really like the MMPR things they are trying to add to PRS, they just don't feel right for the season and feel like a cheap way to call back the first seasons. I mean if the theme was different and it was going back to teenagers in high school I would not mind it but since its apparently going to just adapt shinkenger I don't like it too much. Don't get me wrong, I still like that they are doing it but I would prefer they would have saved it for a more fitting place.

As far as the trailer, I didn't find it terribly exciting, it seems more of the same which is fine with me, I mean I'm not too picky of a fan, what makes PRs fun to me are the essentials that every season is bound to have which is why I enjoy the Disney seasons but I can see people not liking it, I don't feel PRS will be much different than the past few years. Since I don't watch Sentai I also don't mind if they mostly translate it into PRs as long as they add it to the PR continuity. Yeah I like original seasons but both shows are still essentially the same thing for the most part since they share a lot of the same footage. I do like change though so I don't mind if the fandom complains and we get a better product out of it, but even if it doesn't happen I'll still be able to enjoy it.

I am almost positive PRS is going to be a very divisive season, half the people will hate it and the other half will like it and only because its Saban. If PRS had been a Disney season I bet most of the fandom would be hating on the trailer and the show as it airs, but since its Saban again then half the fandom will still defend it. Hopefully I'm wrong but thats what I think will happen, I am also positive that regardless of what the fandom thinks I'll be able to enjoy it.

I think exactly the same thing as you.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

I really don't care for that main villain's voice. What did they do, get a Production Assistant to voice it? With all the crap Barbara Goodson and Robert Axelrod went through, this is a travesty.

[Digifiend]

I really don't care for that main villain's voice. What did they do, get a Production Assistant to voice it? With all the crap Barbara Goodson and Robert Axelrod went through, this is a travesty.What main villain? The voice we heard is that of the monster of the week.

[Samurai Pink]

If i made a teaser for this season could show the rangers,Zords and the Villans and Evil Rangers.

Whoa evil rangers? Is that even true? The last time the rangers took on their evil selves was in overdrive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrwfDreiyY8
If you listen closely, you'll hear the theme song for the show.

[FieryRed]

I don't really like the MMPR things they are trying to add to PRS, they just don't feel right for the season and feel like a cheap way to call back the first seasons. I mean if the theme was different and it was going back to teenagers in high school I would not mind it but since its apparently going to just adapt shinkenger I don't like it too much. Don't get me wrong, I still like that they are doing it but I would prefer they would have saved it for a more fitting place.

As far as the trailer, I didn't find it terribly exciting, it seems more of the same which is fine with me, I mean I'm not too picky of a fan, what makes PRs fun to me are the essentials that every season is bound to have which is why I enjoy the Disney seasons but I can see people not liking it, I don't feel PRS will be much different than the past few years. Since I don't watch Sentai I also don't mind if they mostly translate it into PRs as long as they add it to the PR continuity. Yeah I like original seasons but both shows are still essentially the same thing for the most part since they share a lot of the same footage. I do like change though so I don't mind if the fandom complains and we get a better product out of it, but even if it doesn't happen I'll still be able to enjoy it.

I am almost positive PRS is going to be a very divisive season, half the people will hate it and the other half will like it and only because its Saban. If PRS had been a Disney season I bet most of the fandom would be hating on the trailer and the show as it airs, but since its Saban again then half the fandom will still defend it. Hopefully I'm wrong but thats what I think will happen, I am also positive that regardless of what the fandom thinks I'll be able to enjoy it.

I agree with alot of your points.

[Samurai Pink]

Well I for one am going to enjoy it. And I like the theme song. It's great.

[CycloneMetal]

That's NOT the theme song. It's a fan-made video. The theme is most likely the Go Go Power Rangers remix we heard in 2nd promo and the preview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3MyE72D08s&feature=related Hell, it was confirmed that the theme will be a Go Go Power Rangers remix via a Japanese stunt blog. Don't let fan-made videos fool you.

[SteveBater]

I agree with -sdp.

Also, I don't see why Saban is so great.
First his adaptations and shows weren't that great. Masked Rider was a POS and MMPR wasn't really that great, however it is great for kids and such. I think DBZ was a better show overall.

Plus, if someone else bought PR from Disney, they'd still praise them cuz everyone seems to have this mentality that they must hate on Disney. But everyones gonna say Saban is a god because he bought it back. Yeah, so what? It still has potential to suck.

[Quark]

Outside of using the actual Wasserman theme, i've seen nothing in the promos that looks any different from any Kalish season we saw for 4 years. But hey, reserve judgment until the show starts.

[TZMhero]

I don't agree -sdp. Chris had some very good points about the premise, and the actual work or lack there of from the EP, but I still feel that i can enjoy this season for my own reasons. I'm not a Saban fanboy, I just have particular interests, and tastes. I like odd anime's like FLCL, even if it's popular, just because it's odd and dials into my sometimes bizarre since of humor. Chris knows how weird I can be with my thoughts, and knows how i sometimes have a difficult time conveying my thoughts, so bare with me if I don't exactly come across correctly, but damn it I'm trying.

I don't want people to get the wrong idea about me. I enjoy things for what they have to offer, but my tastes differ greatly from many people. I'm the type that enjoys shows like Gurren Lagann just because it goes beyond it's own rationality and just bull ****'s it's way to awesomeness... and thats exciting to me. I don't try and sit there, think it through and pick it part because I know it's more or less futile. Some things are fun to do this with, like I enjoy trying to pick apart the Kingdom hearts series just because the creators obviously planned only a portion of this ahead of time and are trying to BS new characters into places that originally were never meant to be there. Thats not good writing, but it's fun writing on my end.

I know PRS is going to be a horrible adaptation, and I understand that it's the worst sort of adaptation, but I am still excited for my own reasons. i tend not to try and go along with the crowd, but instead enjoy what I can simply because it's what i like. Many may be split on this season simply because it is a horribly done adaption. I may dislike the season, I may enjoy the season, but I'd never say it was merely because someone would say I'm a Saban fanboy.

there are many out there that would just flock to it because, damn it, we have PR back. people will demand others enjoy it for this fact, but I figure thats an idiotic reason to do anything. It's like the stereotype that people who subscribe to a particular political party HAS to vote along with what that party wishes. I DON'T have to love Saban in order to enjoy this particular season of PR. I can enjoy it because it fits my tastes. Is that silly? Sure. Is that unrealistic reasoning? You know it. Do my thoughts come out fragmented and uncategorized into specific portions of data for people to analyze and think about before they decide to have some witty and or analytical answer? I'm not sure. As you may have already guessed, I've never been the best at conveying my thoughts in a particular order, so i come across... fragmented at best. best of luck to those who understand what i'm trying to say...

In the end, I may be naive, and enjoy a crappy season for stupid reasons, but damn it I'm allowed to do that. I have stupid tastes, yeah, but they are mine and thats something I can call my own. I respect others tastes even if i don't agree with them, and I wager that they wouldn't like me smacking their face then shoving their nose into what I consider wrong. I can honestly say part of me is just happy we have PR back, and I haven't been here as long as many others, so I'm still not to quick to pick things apart as I could.

I am sad that this is going to be an almost translation of the source material... I enjoy clever writing and deviations, interesting new reasonings for the source materials oddity. I like new stories and altered courses... but is it wrong to also enjoy something that may be similar to the source footage? Sometimes, yes... but I don't think it's a horrible sin. At the end, enjoy what you enjoy for your own reasons... don't just claim you like something or believe you do because of some bigger outside reason, Saban or Disney. Next we will have people talking about what network did a better job at showing the series. It's sad that this fandom pushes itself that way, but we are just pushing what we want out there for others to read.

I know many of you will think I'm, I dunno, unintelligent, or I don't know how to explain myself, and thats fine to me, I'll respect you regardless. I may be wrong, but I'm fine with that, sometimes a person should just... enjoy being blissfully ignorant. Thats horrible, but hell, it's my life.

Orange Juice Sundays!!!

[SteveBater]

Whoa evil rangers? Is that even true? The last time the rangers took on their evil selves was in overdrive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrwfDreiyY8
If you listen closely, you'll hear the theme song for the show.

Thats Dragonforce.....


What main villain? The voice we heard is that of the monster of the week.

I think they were referring to the main villian in the sneak peak.

[Thrax]

Whoa evil rangers? Is that even true? The last time the rangers took on their evil selves was in overdrive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrwfDreiyY8
If you listen closely, you'll hear the theme song for the show.

Well everyone likes of the Evil Power Rangers !!!

[Rider Jetfire]

TZM, you just explained my entire thought process about the new season.

And I've said it before and will it again. It will be the best worst season ever.

Also, I bet if Saban had bought the show after Mystic Force and made Overdrive people would be jizzing themselves over it. GUARANTEE.

[Rider Jetfire]

I don't really like the MMPR things they are trying to add to PRS, they just don't feel right for the season and feel like a cheap way to call back the first seasons. I mean if the theme was different and it was going back to teenagers in high school I would not mind it but since its apparently going to just adapt shinkenger I don't like it too much. Don't get me wrong, I still like that they are doing it but I would prefer they would have saved it for a more fitting place.

As far as the trailer, I didn't find it terribly exciting, it seems more of the same which is fine with me, I mean I'm not too picky of a fan, what makes PRs fun to me are the essentials that every season is bound to have which is why I enjoy the Disney seasons but I can see people not liking it, I don't feel PRS will be much different than the past few years. Since I don't watch Sentai I also don't mind if they mostly translate it into PRs as long as they add it to the PR continuity. Yeah I like original seasons but both shows are still essentially the same thing for the most part since they share a lot of the same footage. I do like change though so I don't mind if the fandom complains and we get a better product out of it, but even if it doesn't happen I'll still be able to enjoy it.

I am almost positive PRS is going to be a very divisive season, half the people will hate it and the other half will like it and only because its Saban. If PRS had been a Disney season I bet most of the fandom would be hating on the trailer and the show as it airs, but since its Saban again then half the fandom will still defend it. Hopefully I'm wrong but thats what I think will happen, I am also positive that regardless of what the fandom thinks I'll be able to enjoy it.

Hey guess what? PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ALL SABAN SEASONS OR ALL DISNEY seasons! Unless your Thrax. But anyway.

Some people will like Turbo, some will hate it. Some hate Wild Force, some love it. Some HATE Overdrive, a few love it. Opinions... WE HAVE THEM.

[Thrax]

Well guys you are judge PRS and just see Few teasers and one snaek peek and everyone think Saban will ruin the Shinkenger and dont even the show Starts and i agreed with you Rider Jetfire i think if Saban bought PR after evryone will loved because for some reason no one thinks Saban can handle the Footage.

I liked of all seasons but there is more people like me but i admit all seasons have good things and bad things.

[Huzzah]

The biggest reason I'm glad Saban got the rights back to Power Rangers is simple. He's not just letting it sit there without letting anyone know it exists. He's advertising, puthing the show out there. Most people didn't even realize that Power Rangers has been a Disney show for the past 7 seasons. Disney did no advertising. That's why I'm glad Saban got the show back. I enjoyed a few Disney seasons quite alot (Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, most of SPD and even some of RPM...mostly because it attempted something original...), some of them...not so much. I'm hoping PRS can be successful enough for them to give PR time to find its own footing again, maybe...just maybe...we'll see some originality back...because...well some of the Sentai seasons such as Goukaiger really aren't going to be easy to adapt verbatim. People said that about Shinkenger, but I never thought that would be the case, but Goukaiger (however its spelled) would be hard because of how deep it seems to be steeped in Sentai lore...it's one of those seasons that would be easier to create an original story for than to copy/paste/Google Translate the Sentai series.

[theultamitezeo]

i like that they didnt just copy the morph/henshin of shinkenger but i dont like the mask that goes on before the morph its a little too much and just kind of feels out of place

[Vickram101]

If you could make a teaser for the upcoming season, what would you feature?

Bikes, Samurai Slashing, explosions and s**t. XD

Just Kidding, I won't show much because I don't want to spoil things when the show premiere

[Thrax]

The biggest reason I'm glad Saban got the rights back to Power Rangers is simple. He's not just letting it sit there without letting anyone know it exists. He's advertising, puthing the show out there. Most people didn't even realize that Power Rangers has been a Disney show for the past 7 seasons. Disney did no advertising. That's why I'm glad Saban got the show back. I enjoyed a few Disney seasons quite alot (Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, most of SPD and even some of RPM...mostly because it attempted something original...), some of them...not so much. I'm hoping PRS can be successful enough for them to give PR time to find its own footing again, maybe...just maybe...we'll see some originality back...because...well some of the Sentai seasons such as Goukaiger really aren't going to be easy to adapt verbatim. People said that about Shinkenger, but I never thought that would be the case, but Goukaiger (however its spelled) would be hard because of how deep it seems to be steeped in Sentai lore...it's one of those seasons that would be easier to create an original story for than to copy/paste/Google Translate the Sentai series.

Well Disney for shore made cool seasons of the Power Rangers and i think they make a great effort to make this seasons but they never make much advertising to the show, we have to wait and expect for the formula of they will use for the PRS but i think Saban will bring to a show we already know Saban well and is shows of the PR are always awesome.

The Case of Goseiger all will depend of the Saban will make with footage and with the story of Sentai but we know Saban dont copy the plots from Sentai like Disney do in some seasons but even do that could make great seasons but i think we Gosei Saban will make a great adaptation.

[Fury Diamond]

If you were producing the upcoming season, what surprises would you bring to the show?

[Thrax]

If you were producing the upcoming season, what surprises would you bring to the show?

I liked to bring more of six rangers,Really awesome villans, team up between RPM and S and evil rangers.

[SteveBater]

If you were producing the upcoming season, what surprises would you bring to the show?

to appease all of the haters... originality XD

[Vickram101]

I would make SAMURAI VS. RPM happen. And Make both RPM red and Samurai Red get a Battlizer

[President Ranger]

So this season will automatically suck because its an almost word for word (it will not be literally word for word) translation? Thats all you need to know about a series to make up your mind?

[SteveBater]

well cmdr crayfish, its not exactly literal. they cut out where takeru pushes ryunosuke away..plus there is other original stuff, like "go go samurai" and the samuraizers.

haha. when its not original people are mad. but when they try to be fans still b*tch...

[SteveBater]

So this season will automatically suck because its an almost word for word (it will not be literally word for word) translation? Thats all you need to know about a series to make up your mind?

maybe he meant, its supposed to be a translation, but what we got was way off.

[FieryRed]

well cmdr crayfish, its not exactly literal. they cut out where takeru pushes ryunosuke away..plus there is other original stuff, like "go go samurai" and the samuraizers.

haha. when its not original people are mad. but when they try to be fans still b*tch...

Yeah, I can already see several differences between Shinkenger and PRS just in that short preview, and even though we only have a few words as reference, I can tell that Jayden is nothing like Takeru. I seriously doubt what that writer claimed about PRS being a "word-for-word literal translation" of Shinkenger.

[President Ranger]

I seriously doubt what that writer claimed about PRS being a "word-for-word literal translation" of Shinkenger.

I don't doubt that he said it. I don't think Cmdr Crayfish would make that statement if it wasn't said. But I think whoever said it was clearly exaggerating.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

So this season will automatically suck because its an almost word for word (it will not be literally word for word) translation? Thats all you need to know about a series to make up your mind?

If you are incapable of understanding that Jonathan does not look at PR as an adaptation but literally a LOCALIZATION of Sentai, then you don't understand my answer is "yes." On the other hand, if you read the posts I made on this very thread, you would understand his entire problem is that he wants the episodes duplicated beat for beat. It is not even adapting the plots at that point. It's transposing them, in English, with no benefit of hindsight or forethought. "Hey, we can set up this random twist in the finale months earlier!" You know who fought to include an Ancient Warrior in one of the flashbacks who had the Lunar Cue before the Zen-Aku storyline? KOICHI. Jonathan didn't want to do it.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I don't doubt that he said it. I don't think Cmdr Crayfish would make that statement if it wasn't said. But I think whoever said it was clearly exaggerating.

Yes, Tony Oliver is a man known for his lying.

Tony told the fans IN HIS OWN PANEL, and acted like we'd be excited. Tony had been told the fans preferred direct translations.

[SteveBater]

i'm gonna assume the same basic story is kept however.

[President Ranger]

Have you seen shinkenger?

I get what you are saying about what Jonathan does but I don't get how you can predict that this season will automatically suck. Its an exaggeration to say it will be word for word. We've seen that in just 2 minutes of the show. Exactly how do you know what will get chopped out and what will get kept word for word? They seemed to have chopped out Takeru's personality in place of a new team work orientated leader. How do you know they didn't chop other stuff out? Yesterday you said "what the Sentai gets right the US censors won't allow". So does that mean everything Shinkenger got right, Samurai can't do? The other day you also brought up a problem this method of adapting PR has caused for sentai. But can you say for certain that the same type of problem will exist in Samurai?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

When the underlying methodology has in no way changed? Yes. Because I'm criticizing JONATHAN. I'm criticizing the creative force behind the season. I hope Samurai is good, I hope it adapts GOOD Shinkenger plots and actually DOES excise the bad ones. But Jonathan is a mindless fanboy of the worst sort.

I am actually willing to lay money that Jayden still gets Takeru's focus episodes, awkwardly rewritten or disparities and discontinuities simply dismissed. If I'm wrong, FANTASTIC. Somebody actually curbed Jonathan's proclivities. I don't think I'm wrong. And if I am, god, I'd gladly eat that hat. But the last time I was talking to one of the (non-Tony) writers... He was definitely drinking the kool-aid.

[TZMhero]

I guess the best we can hope for is 'Shinken Plus' not 'Shinken Minus'

[Super Jeff]

So...Im guessing we are getting that female red ranger I been hearing about in shikenger.

[CycloneMetal]

I'm sick and tired of this constant mantra that Jonathan will kill the series. It's ******ed. Be happy that we have PR back. I'm not acting like it's the end of the free world because Jonathan is the Executive Producer of Power Rangers Samurai. To me, it doesn't matter who is the EP. I just wanna enjoy the damn show.

[NCBradin]

I'm sick and tired of this constant mantra that Jonathan will kill the series. It's ******ed. Be happy that we have PR back. I'm not acting like it's the end of the free world because Jonathan is the Executive Producer of Power Rangers Samurai. To me, it doesn't matter who is the EP. I just wanna enjoy the damn show.

YES! I agree with you!

[SapphireBuster]

If you were producing the upcoming season, what surprises would you bring to the show?

I'd fire Johnathan as the EP.

[theultamitezeo]

okay got a question what is the form that shinkenred is in super shinken reds profile pic

[FieryRed]

okay got a question what is the form that shinkenred is in super shinken reds profile pic

It's Gedou Shinken Red, the evil persona of Shinken Red and he will premiere in the VS movie between Goseiger and Shinkenger. Unless Saban gets the rights of that movie, I doubt we will see him in PR Samurai.

[theultamitezeo]

dude thats bad *** he looks really awesome

[Hears All]

If you were producing the upcoming season, what surprises would you bring to the show?

A team-up with RPM. No comedic relief Rangers, comedy will come from other characters and bad*ss fights

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Ok so i Gotta know, Johnathan vs Kalish, pros and cons

Bruce and Jonathan both genuinely love PR. I make no bones this is the case. We OWE PMC to Bruce forcing it through Disney enough Mo could get Make-a-Wish onboard.

Bruce doesn't understand PR as its own entity and, left to his own devices, believes Toei that PR is an Americanization of Sentai. Jonathan sees PR as an Americanization of Sentai because he freaking loves Sentai and genuinely regards the interconnected continuity of the earlier seasons as a mistake. A teamup is not the same as an overarcing mythos. Bruce doesn't even really understand teamups. Jonathan DOES... Because Sentai does them.

Bruce thinks doing a US storyline and giving it only lip service while adapting Sentai plots episode by episode is reasonable. Jonathan tailors US plots to fit the existing Japanese storylines they WILL be adapting, because that's the way things are done. I mean, say what you will about Wild Force? They aimed ridiculously low, fit their US storyline in around the fact it was Gaoranger USA, and still succeeded at a greater level than the source material for it. Time Force COLLAPSED as it became more and more Timeranger USA. Wild Force had the benefit of seeing how to work around Jonathan's predilections.

Bruce eventually listened to the fandom and started doing his own plots. The fact they were terrible, objectively worse than the Sentai, and still adapted the weakest parts of the Sentai because they still couldn't think outside of the box enough to remove them... Irrelevant. He TRIED. Overdrive is very probably the worst season of Power Rangers, but god... Gold star for effort. It simply ASPIRED TO SO MUCH MORE THAN THE WRITERS WERE CAPABLE OF. That makes it worse (Overdrive takes every problem SPD had and magnifies it), yet more laudable in comparison. Hell, by that measure Jungle Fury IS the Kalish Wild Force. It aims to do a simplified version of Gekiranger with its own plots (poorly) wedged in around the edges. It does a worse job than PRWF, but I liked it for its utter lack of pretense.

Bruce, at the end of the day, is the son of 1950's sitcom writers. He is himself a 1970's action-drama writer. He is not about giving a show gravitas. He's about producing disposable product to easily move out the door and sell in syndication. Jonathan is a rampant fan of Tokusatsu who wants to expose the masses to the original and, because market demographics demand a franchise with a multitude of ethnicities represented that you can sell around the world, simply reshoots the original. Neither one really understands PR as its own entity, but god love them, they did both try.

If I had to choose one, insanely? I'd pick Bruce for one reason: I believe he is capable of learning. I believe Jonathan has learned his lesson: the earliest seasons of Power Rangers are the anomaly and there is nothing to be learned from them. THEY are the old shame. If this season of PR is bad, it's simply the fault of THAT SENTAI and OBVIOUSLY next year will be better since they are adapting another show. Despite the fact that Bruce produced only one season that I will ever watch again willingly, I believe he could have learned given enough time. I do not believe Jonathan is capable of learning any longer.

[SapphireBuster]

If I had to choose one, insanely? I'd pick Bruce.

I so called that one.

[nekollx]

interesting, in that light it's kind of scary to think that my book series Tokusatu essentially paints me as "Kalish" as i kind of do my own thing while paying lip servie to the inspiration (Power Rangers), never thought i'd be a "Kalish"

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I so called that one.

In spite of the fact that I enjoy, proportionately, 9 out of 10 seasons Jonathan worked on? I'm sure you did, princess...

[Super Jeff]

I am probably one of the few fans that actually liked bruce. He tried to do diffrent things. Like the whole Mac is a android, sure after Things not said could have been handled better but at least he gave us something diffrent.

As for Jonathan, he seemed like a ok Producer to me, I never really watched sentai, so Im not sure which stories are straight adaptions to originals.

Is Judd Lynn returning at all? I know he returned to finish RPM, but did Saban bring him back at all?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Chip is not returning. And without a strong presence to counter Jonathan's tendencies...

[Huzzah]

If you were producing the upcoming season, what surprises would you bring to the show?

At least one or two surprise cameos for the long term fans, I mean it seems Ricardo Medina Jr. is back, have him as Cole with elements of the Juzo character from Shinkenger, course I'm not sure how that would work, never watched Shinkenger. Blake Foster wants to come back, fit him into the story somehow...

The biggest thing I'd do is bring back Bulk and/or Skull as main characters, heck Bulkmeiers could be the new Juice Bar. Bulk is more interesting to me than Skull mind you, so if I could only have one I'd have Bulk.

[Rider Jetfire]

Good lord, your relationship with a fictional show is indicative of domestic abuse. "I'd rather have it than not!" I'd rather watch a show I enjoy than a show which is an obligation to me. PR was under Time Force for me. PR was under Kalish. If you simply want PR to remain on the air in the hopes it improves later? If the only way you can get PR back is for it to be terrible? Dear god, that's ludicrous. Move on with your life, man. PR's well-being concerns me. Not PR's current existence. I don't NEED Power Rangers to be on the air to be happy with Power Rangers. We've got SEVEN HUNDRED EPISODES TO DISCUSS.

Honestly, this reminds me a lot of Star Trek. Jesus, that franchise needed a break after Voyager. It did not need to steam on to Enterprise. It needed a rest to figure things out. Power Ranger fans want the show on air. They want to watch it because they do love it. But if they were patient for once they would actually maybe get the show they always wished they had. PR fans (On the whole) think of the show as better then it really is. A lot of them defend it as being "dark" (Or at least that's what they say it should be.) God, it reminds me of Torchwood fandom, which always sees that show as better then it really was. It is better in the fans minds then it actually is. If PR fans would accept the show for what it is we would not have all *****ing and moaning we get all the time.

And once again, I am excited for this season but for reasons of I love awful things. Although whether this remains to be a T.J. Hooker for me or Earth: Final Conflict Season 5 we shall see.

[Super Jeff]

Chip is not returning. And without a strong presence to counter Jonathan's tendencies...

Thats a shame, I think he is one of my favorite producers just for the fact he seems to know PR is a light hearted action adventure series.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Chip thinks PR is its best when it is terrible bubblegum crap. God love the man.

[Super Jeff]

I do remember Turbo Chip wanted to do a space themed while Jonathan wanted to adapt it like Carranger was. When they did do Jonathan's adaption, Turbo had low rating in the first half.

[Huzzah]

So lets just combine Judd Lynn, Bruce Kalish, Jonathon Tzachor and throw some Koichi into the mix. Set the blender to mix and see what we come out with...

[SteveBater]

are we getting "richard brown"? i wanna see that!

[Thrax]

Well i think is better he we waited of the season primeire and them we can have a full opinion because we can based just in 2 teasers and 1 Sneak peek and all the show will based in Sentai because even WF they use much of the plots of the Gaoranger and WF it as pretty good.

[Rhino Ranger]

Can't read through this whole board, but can someone please tell me the premiere date and time, as well as what station?

[Digifiend]

February 5th, time TBA, Nickelodeon.

[rogueguy]

I do remember Turbo Chip wanted to do a space themed while Jonathan wanted to adapt it like Carranger was. When they did do Jonathan's adaption, Turbo had low rating in the first half.

Weren't Doug and Ann responsible for Turbo1?

[nekollx]

some thoughts
Nick is working on a TMNT movie
Saban is planing a PR Movie
The turtles and pR have shared screen time...
Teamup movie?

Saban acquired he rights to Kamen Rider Decade because of the Shinkenger team up
What does KR Decade x shinkenger have aside for Decade that could make for a Samurai plot?
Kanjin Rider DiEnd
Imagin a mid season Green With Evil Saga where the moogers/Xanded find a way to tap the morphing grid and create their own super charged monster....

[Super Jeff]

Weren't Doug and Ann responsible for Turbo1?

Really? I knew they were apart of it, I thought it was ultimatly between Chip and Johnathan to help direct turbo1.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

^Doug Sloan and Ann Knapp were in charge of the first half of Turbo. Jonathan Tzachor took over for the second half and stayed on until Wild Force. I mean he gave us some good seasons. Why all the hate?

[Super Jeff]

Im not really hating on johnathan, I just remember hearing him and chip would conflict with each other as Johnathan would want to do a straight adaption while chip would like to do original stories.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Jonathan was a producer for the entirety of MMPR-Wild Force. Doug was STORY EDITOR for the Zyu2 era of MMPR through the first half of Turbo, under Jonathan. Doug was never a showrunner until NS-DT.

[Super Jeff]

So Jonathan was responsible for turbo1 then?

[Cmdr Crayfish]

His name was in the damn opening credits. It's been well documented that Doug left specifically BECAUSE of conflicts with Jonathan. The eternal "what exactly happened" story that has never been aired. Neither party has never explained in any detail if he quit or was fired, and indeed- some people who were there interchangeably say both.

[President Ranger]

Bruce and Jonathan both genuinely love PR. I make no bones this is the case. We OWE PMC to Bruce forcing it through Disney enough Mo could get Make-a-Wish onboard.

Bruce doesn't understand PR as its own entity and, left to his own devices, believes Toei that PR is an Americanization of Sentai. Jonathan sees PR as an Americanization of Sentai because he freaking loves Sentai and genuinely regards the interconnected continuity of the earlier seasons as a mistake. A teamup is not the same as an overarcing mythos. Bruce doesn't even really understand teamups. Jonathan DOES... Because Sentai does them.

Bruce thinks doing a US storyline and giving it only lip service while adapting Sentai plots episode by episode is reasonable. Jonathan tailors US plots to fit the existing Japanese storylines they WILL be adapting, because that's the way things are done. I mean, say what you will about Wild Force? They aimed ridiculously low, fit their US storyline in around the fact it was Gaoranger USA, and still succeeded at a greater level than the source material for it. Time Force COLLAPSED as it became more and more Timeranger USA. Wild Force had the benefit of seeing how to work around Jonathan's predilections.

Bruce eventually listened to the fandom and started doing his own plots. The fact they were terrible, objectively worse than the Sentai, and still adapted the weakest parts of the Sentai because they still couldn't think outside of the box enough to remove them... Irrelevant. He TRIED. Overdrive is very probably the worst season of Power Rangers, but god... Gold star for effort. It simply ASPIRED TO SO MUCH MORE THAN THE WRITERS WERE CAPABLE OF. That makes it worse (Overdrive takes every problem SPD had and magnifies it), yet more laudable in comparison. Hell, by that measure Jungle Fury IS the Kalish Wild Force. It aims to do a simplified version of Gekiranger with its own plots (poorly) wedged in around the edges. It does a worse job than PRWF, but I liked it for its utter lack of pretense.

Bruce, at the end of the day, is the son of 1950's sitcom writers. He is himself a 1970's action-drama writer. He is not about giving a show gravitas. He's about producing disposable product to easily move out the door and sell in syndication. Jonathan is a rampant fan of Tokusatsu who wants to expose the masses to the original and, because market demographics demand a franchise with a multitude of ethnicities represented that you can sell around the world, simply reshoots the original. Neither one really understands PR as its own entity, but god love them, they did both try.

If I had to choose one, insanely? I'd pick Bruce for one reason: I believe he is capable of learning. I believe Jonathan has learned his lesson: the earliest seasons of Power Rangers are the anomaly and there is nothing to be learned from them. THEY are the old shame. If this season of PR is bad, it's simply the fault of THAT SENTAI and OBVIOUSLY next year will be better since they are adapting another show. Despite the fact that Bruce produced only one season that I will ever watch again willingly, I believe he could have learned given enough time. I do not believe Jonathan is capable of learning any longer.

Wow, picking Bruce over Jonathan makes no sense given everything you just said. The more Bruce "learned" the worst he got throughout his time with PR.

[Super Jeff]

Well no need for the launguage, its been a while since I seen turbo. But yeah, I remember hearing doug left during turbo didnt know it was because of jonathon.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Because Jonathan doesn't regard the formative years of the show as worthy of study or emulation. Bruce could be rehabilitated. It is picking which devil you want. I happen to think Bruce is the devil who might actually feel remorse.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

I'm looking at the first Turbo opening:

Co Producers:
Ann Knapp
Paul F. Rosenthal

Supervising Producers:
Douglas Sloan
Scott Page-Pagter

Producer:
Jonathan Tzachor



Now, Turbo 2:

Action Director:
Koichi Sakamoto

Co-Producer:
Paul F. Rosenthal

Supervising Producer
Scott Page-Pagter

PRODUCED BY:
Jonathan Tzachor

So, yep the only (production credit) changes were Ann Knapp and Doug Sloan being gone, Koichi getting credited in the opening, and the slightly tweaked "produced by" credit. But, if that was the only change, why the change in tone and what not?

And Zeo had the same but with Tony Oliver credited as Co-Producer with Knapp and Rosenthal.

PRIS:

Action Director:
Koichi

Co-Producers:
CHIP LYNN
Scott Page-Pagter
Paul F. Rosenthal

Produced by
Jonathan Tzachor

So, was "Supervising Producer" just some souped up term for "Story Editor?" It seems like the hierarchy was Supervising, Co, Producer. Meaning that Knapp and ROSENTHAL would have had more clout than Sloan. Unless I'm totally off base.

And later there were credits for an additonal action director and Line Producer blah blah blah.

[TZMhero]

It is scary that... we now live in a world that some may wish Bruce Kalish back to the show. I agree with Chris, if there was some way that this could be better, maybe JUST MAYBE, he could do it.

Also, I guess my last thread was deleted. Again.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

... Because the entire writing staff quit or was laid off, including the story editor...?

[President Ranger]

I understand that part. I get that Bruce would be more willing to go in the direction you want more than Jonathan and in your eyes is willing to learn more than Jonathan. The point I'm trying to make is, why do you think Bruce being "rehabilitated" or "feeling remorse" will render better seasons? The last time Bruce attempted to improve himself it backfired and gave us some pretty horrible seasons. You say that fact is irrelevant, but why isn't it relevant? On paper it seems that Jonathan's current methodology would give us better seasons than a Bruce Kalish who is capable of "learning" because his learning doesn't equal quality. His learning equals OO and JF..

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Jungle Fury was the least-terrible Kalish season. I enjoyed it. It's the least offensive. It ties up pretty much everything it introduces.

Honestly... They're both not bad people, but Bruce genuinely wanted feedback and input. I was shocked when he and I spoke last year about attending PMC, because he was nice as hell and curious if anyone actually wanted him to attend. HE WAS CORDIAL AND CHARMING TO ME. I mean, what the hell? I feel like, Bruce regarding PR as product... He could have been reasoned how to improve the product itself to optimize sales.

[President Ranger]

Well be careful what you ask for because one day we might just get it.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

... Because the entire writing staff quit or was laid off, including the story editor...?

You were answering my question about the tone change? Thanks that makes sense. It's just the oft repeated story was that Sloan and Knapp were in charge but that is baloney. Probably the same people who said that Austin and AJ were supposed to be coming back in Turbo as Red and Pink and Kat becoming Yellow. You know, frustrated fanfic writers and the usual gang of morons.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

You were answering my question about the tone change? Thanks that makes sense. It's just the oft repeated story was that Sloan and Knapp were in charge but that is baloney. Probably the same people who said that Austin and AJ were supposed to be coming back in Turbo as Red and Pink and Kat becoming Yellow. You know, frustrated fanfic writers and the usual gang of morons.

Doug was in charge of the writing. Jonathan was his boss. That's what a story editor is. Part of why Doug resented Jonathan so much was Jonathan's insistence to jettison all storylines and elements from Zeo and continue on as though Turbo was a completely new show with the same basic cast.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

^Helpful as always Chris.

[Fury Diamond]

If you were the writer for the Samurai season premiere, what ideas would you bring to the first two episodes?

[mnikolic]

If you were the writer for the Samurai season premiere, what ideas would you bring to the first two episodes?

I don't know how to answer this question, so I'm just going to wait for the premiere to air and than answer this question.

[Huzzah]

If you were the writer for the Samurai season premiere, what ideas would you bring to the first two episodes?

A manner in which to establish this line in the main PR continuity, without being too buried down in the mythology. Have mention to Rangers past, but not to the point where there is blatant comparison. Then establish who the characters are, why they are there, and what brings them together to have to from this new team. Also a one off to Cam, and easter egg for the long term fans, not some important element to the story...just because he was the first Samurai Ranger...

[Metal Rider]

I don't know if this was answered already but does anyone know what channel Samurai will be on in Canada? I only ask since neither Family Channel or Nickelodeon Canada's websites say anything about it

[DarkBlaze]

I don't know if this was answered already but does anyone know what channel Samurai will be on in Canada? I only ask since neither Family Channel or Nickelodeon Canada's websites say anything about itI hope this helps: http://ridersrangersandrambles.com/?p=811

[Super Jeff]

If you were the writer for the Samurai season premiere, what ideas would you bring to the first two episodes?

Hmmmm, I would have each ranger go on a seperate quest to get their powers. Kind of like how the knights did it in the Knights of TiraNog

[SilverPirate]

Hmmmm, I would have each ranger go on a seperate quest to get their powers. Kind of like how the knights did it in the Knights of TiraNog

I love Mystic Knights. ^_^ An idea like that adapted to Power Rangers has already been introduced, however, during the end of Season 3 when the kids went to retrieve the Zeo subcrystals. Still, nothing wrong with re-introducing that, and it would also allow the Rangers to rightfully earn their powers instead of just being handed the morphers.

[Super Jeff]

I love Mystic Knights. ^_^ An idea like that adapted to Power Rangers has already been introduced, however, during the end of Season 3 when the kids went to retrieve the Zeo subcrystals. Still, nothing wrong with re-introducing that, and it would also allow the Rangers to rightfully earn their powers instead of just being handed the morphers.

as well a good idea what to expect from the characters

[Fury Diamond]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

[Thrax]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

I liked to bring Dillon again.

[mnikolic]

Dude! Don't leave just because you got in an argument with one person. Life is too short.

I won't. The person in question has his own thoughts and opinions and I have mine. If we don't agree with each other, we just don't. And that's that.


If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

That would be one of the original cast members. Well, except JDF, because he already came back for DT. :D

[Super Jeff]

Bring back Cam since he was a samurai ranger

[Cmdr Crayfish]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

Justin! Blake's wanting it aside, Justin is the MOST logical choice- there's somewhere to go with his storyline. The last Zordonic Ranger. The last one to have ANY Zordon training. A continuously active Ranger for almost thirteen years, and still the right age to be a cast member. He's PERFECT IN EVERY WAY to bring back.

[Huzzah]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

I said it countless times before, and I'll say it again. Paul Schrier, and in an ideal situation Jason Narvy...but he's kinda busy being a professor...apart from that I'll agree with Chris, Blake Foster, ideal choice. He wants it, he loves that he was part of it, and wants to be part of it again, of course Paulie seems to remember his times fondly as well...plus he could easily be meshed into a new series as an Ernie figure, but an Ernie who knows all about the Rangers...though I think Ernie probably had some idea back in the day.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

As much as I hate to say it (and boy do I) I'd have to say Justin as well. For the reasons given.

I REALLY want to say Zack though. That won't happen since it's non-union. My other REAL choice would be Rocky. I mean, Jason came back, Adam came back, and Tommy came back (twice), and Billy probably won't ever come back.

[DarkBlaze]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?I'd have to agree with the majority, and say Blake (Justin). He has shown interest in returning, and have said many times that he would love to come back.

[Thrax]

I'd have to agree with the majority, and say Blake (Justin). He has shown interest in returning, and have said many times that he would love to come back.

Will be interesthing to see Again Just one Turbo ranger along side with Samurai rangers.

[President Ranger]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

Cam. He was technically a samurai ranger so it would make the most sense to bring him back for PR samurai.


Why is it when there is an argument, you are usually involved?

hmm, i thought that was me lol

[Hellion01]

I hope theres some connections in the upcoming seasons...i would love to discuss new possibilities/plot holes. I must admit, it gets a bit tiring discussing these things repeatedly in regards of the Zordon era series ;_;

Yay?...nay?

(Just felt like we should take this convo in a whole new direction than it is in now >_>)

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I hope theres some connections in the upcoming seasons...i would love to discuss new possibilities/plot holes. I must admit, it gets a bit tiring discussing these things repeatedly in regards of the Zordon era series ;_;

Yay?...nay?

Oh, there's material we haven't even begun to prune. What's Applebee actually a teacher OF? Where did the Juice Bar go? Is there a workable map of Angel Grove meeting the geographic criteria introduced over six seasons, like the mountain range and the desert and the forest and the massive downtown area with its own metro rail? Angel Grove seems to have two downtown districts, one adjacent to the Abandoned Warehouse District. That's the one that looks like Tokyo! Is the monorail connecting the two? Does it just do a closed loop through the Tokyo-styled city and into the suburbs? Does it go clear into Stone Canyon? Rocky speaks of places in Angel Grove as places he's gone his whole life, yet he had to actually transfer school districts when he moved... How close to the mountain range separating them are Angel Grove and her sister city?

[DarkBlaze]

Cam. He was technically a samurai ranger so it would make the most sense to bring him back for PR samurai.Yes, Cam would be another choice for me as well. I think his family/Samurai history on his mothers side would be perfect for the story. It could explain how there were past Samurai Rangers, and how they were able to become Power Rangers through the Morphing Grid.

[Hellion01]

Oh, there's material we haven't even begun to prune. What's Applebee actually a teacher OF? Where did the Juice Bar go? Is there a workable map of Angel Grove meeting the geographic criteria introduced over six seasons, like the mountain range and the desert and the forest and the massive downtown area with its own metro rail? Angel Grove seems to have two downtown districts, one adjacent to the Abandoned Warehouse District. That's the one that looks like Tokyo! Is the monorail connecting the two? Does it just do a closed loop through the Tokyo-styled city and into the suburbs? Does it go clear into Stone Canyon? Rocky speaks of places in Angel Grove as places he's gone his whole life, yet he had to actually transfer school districts when he moved... How close to the mountain range separating them are Angel Grove and her sister city?

Aie...haha i meant the sorta minor things like powers, villain's, Zords, etc. But even i cant begin to answer those questions because honestly, i've never thought about complex things like that. That doesn't mean you don't bring up a good point.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Oh yeah, that stuff's been talked to the ground. The fans moved on in terms of substantial discussion to things like the larger scope of the world at this point, in the valiant hopes it will allow us new insight into the old material. That said, some of my own random thoughts...

Angel Grove Stadium is the size of the Tokyo Dome. They have a major league baseball team and two major newspapers. As much as we may want to call Los Angeles the Angel Grove analogue in our universe, Angel Grove HAS to be ridiculously bigger by proportion if it has two "downtown" areas and full residential areas still within the city itself. Encompassing many more outlying areas. There's a lot about this town that the fandom (including Derik and Rov) have always glossed over because it's a fictional town and we'd have to decide where to geographically place it at some point. But "Angel Grove = Los Angeles" falls apart in a universe where we know LA does exist as well.

I mean, god, when I think about this crap... Is Sam Trueheart's reservation to the North or South of Angel Grove? Is it East of Stone Canyon and still part of the greater Stone County area? That's far enough away Tommy and David WOULD presumably never run into one another growing up...

[Hellion01]

I find it weird that actual places in a show are discussed. This is new to me 0_o but i guess in some ways, it does make sense. After all, 5 seasons were spent in that one area so i can see why something like that would be the topic of discussion.

[CycloneMetal]

Here's a situation that I'm throwing out there, It seems like kids aren't buying the Samurai toys. But the series hasn't started yet. If the show does well, but the toyline "fails" Will Nick keep the show going after Samurai? or will Saban shut it down?

[Zeo Ranger VII]

If they do bring back a past Ranger to PRS it won't be as a Samurai Ranger a la Tommy's return in DT. The Rangers have been casted. It would have to be a team-up/Always a Chance scenario. I also wouldn't mind seeing Paulie Schrier return if the rumors are true.

[President Ranger]

If they brought people back in a team-up scenario I would want Ninja storm or Jungle fury. Even though I can't stand Jungle fury.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Bigger roles for the Spirit Rangers, right?

[DrBravo2]

Bigger roles for the Spirit Rangers, right?
That could make sense... The PRS rangers are being trained. Their master could call in the JF Masters to teach them some techniques (the PRJF rangers are Masters now too, but they're active teachers at the JF academy). When the threat escalates, the rest of the rangers are called in.

[Super Jeff]

I loved the spirit rangers, they were one the reasons why enjoyed JF.

[Huzzah]

As far as the Spirit Rangers go, I woulda loved seeing the Masters actually morph into the Spirit Rangers. I mean come on, seeing Master Phant morph at his age woulda been sweet.

[Quark]

With the gut of an elephant, Jungle Fury Elephant Ranger.

[Huzzah]

With the gut of an elephant, Jungle Fury Elephant Ranger.

Haha, oh yeah...but then again if the Ranger suits can make people taller (Justin) or make females into males (most early Yellow Rangers) then I'm sure it could take away the pounds...

[Barracuda]

Yeah they could, we will have to see in the future.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

The Spirit Rangers aren't coming back. :-(

[Digifiend]

Here's a situation that I'm throwing out there, It seems like kids aren't buying the Samurai toys. But the series hasn't started yet. If the show does well, but the toyline "fails" Will Nick keep the show going after Samurai? or will Saban shut it down?Give it chance! They've only just been released!

[Rheannan]

So...Im guessing we are getting that female red ranger I been hearing about in shikenger.

It seems we probably will, but we won't find out until later in the season. Kaoru wasn't in the season until later on.


If you were the writer for the Samurai season premiere, what ideas would you bring to the first two episodes?

An interesting entrance for each of the rangers, though I'm not sure what that might be.


Here's a situation that I'm throwing out there, It seems like kids aren't buying the Samurai toys. But the series hasn't started yet.

I'd imagine the reason for people not having bought the toys yet is because the season hasn't started yet. The toys need to be related back to the show, not just advertised by themselves.

[SilverPirate]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

I'd bring back either Cam since he was a Samurai Ranger himself or Justin since there is so much more to be developed with his character.

[YellowAccel]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

Anyone except JDF. I would love to see a girl for once as ashley,kat or aisha

[nekollx]

some thoughts
Nick is working on a TMNT movie
Saban is planing a PR Movie
The turtles and pR have shared screen time...
Teamup movie?

Saban acquired he rights to Kamen Rider Decade because of the Shinkenger team up
What does KR Decade x shinkenger have aside for Decade that could make for a Samurai plot?
Kanjin Rider DiEnd
Imagine a mid season Green With Evil Saga where the moogers/Xanded find a way to tap the morphing grid and create their own super charged monster....

Posted that a few pages back, any thoughts?

[Mr. Pink]

If you could bring back a former cast member to PR Samurai, who would it be?

If Ricardo is definitely having a big part, we could have Jessica come back as Alyssa at some point for an interesting relationship dynamic with all the hints there were about them

That is just as likely as a Forever Pink haha... but its as good as an option as some of the others I've seen. I agree on the no JDF

A more obvious jungle fury continuity tie in would also be nice. I would just pray it wasn't RJ or Theo.

[Thrax]

Posted that a few pages back, any thoughts?

If Something like thats happens in PRS i think could be the last episodes of the 20 episodes when the First season of PRS over.

[Huzzah]

The Spirit Rangers aren't coming back. :-(

Sad, right? There was some potential there, I guess you could use that as an example of what you were saying about Bruce Kalish trying to learn.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

We have as much chance of seeing the Spirit Rangers as we do seeing a David Yost cameo.

[Andros]

We all are wondering about the Goseiger adaptation right? Because the "Angel" theme may not go over so well in the USA.

So... I have an Idea

We already know of Power Rangers Samurai (Obviously) so why not make a link between PR and Super Sentai rather than act like the other does not exist.
I know we got that episode of PRDT where they watch Abaranger on TV and what not. But thats not what I am thinking of.

Why not have the Samurai Rangers at the end of the first season Defeat the main enemy and all his henchmen (His PRS name escapes me) then, write it well of course, Buredoran, Metal Alice and others are literally "Revived" and in the first fight with them the Samurai Powers are taken or destroyed. (Personally I like the idea of taken, this way they can still use thepowers, weapons and zords later on if needed).
And in a moment of Despair, we cut out to Gosei World with Master Head speaking to a group of 5 people. He speaks to them about the revival of these enemies in America. And that none of them are equipped for the fight in another country. (Why that is would have to be cleverly written) He also explains that there is a team of 6 "Samurai Power Rangers" that have been defeated by the old enemies.
So he sends the 5 (The 5 GoseiAngels) to America.
They confront Buredoran and engage in battle using the Gosei Powers.
After forcing Buredoran to retreat, the 5 reveal who they are to the Samurai Rangers. Explaining that they are Gosei Angels charged with protecting the earth. (This will be the only scene where mentioning of Angels appears in the show. Spoken only to create the link between the Sentai and PR. Also, how to breach the language barrier would have to be decided)
Master Head calls them through the Tensounders and gives further instructions.
Without hesitation the Gosei Angels ask for the useless Samurai Morphers. Master Head sends the Angels a card which is inserted into the Tensounders and a power transfer begins to take place. As the transfer is occurring, the Angels explain that they are giving them the Gosei Powers. But they are not Gosei Angels. They are Power Ranges whos powers have been recharged with Gosei Power. From that moment forward they will be known as the Gosei Power Rangers. The Gosei worlds resources are at their disposal. (Zords, Weapons, etc..) Master Head will communicate with them as time goes on. And as the powers are learned/controlled/understood, new powers will be given to them. (Headders and so on)
Gosei Knight comes in later. And restores the Gold Samurai Rangers powers. Making a team of 7.

Just an idea. Not by any means a finished product.

What do you all think?

[CycloneMetal]

Nicholas Varley will be doing the music for Power Rangers Samurai, along with Noam Kaniel. http://www.nicholasvarley.com/Home.html Also, the Nickelodeon PR page now says that Samurai is coming in February. Giving more credence to the Feb. 5th premiere date.

[TZMhero]

Thanks for the info CycloneMetal.

[Takeru]

We all are wondering about the Goseiger adaptation right? Because the "Angel" theme may not go over so well in the USA.

So... I have an Idea

We already know of Power Rangers Samurai (Obviously) so why not make a link between PR and Super Sentai rather than act like the other does not exist.
I know we got that episode of PRDT where they watch Abaranger on TV and what not. But thats not what I am thinking of.

Why not have the Samurai Rangers at the end of the first season Defeat the main enemy and all his henchmen (His PRS name escapes me) then, write it well of course, Buredoran, Metal Alice and others are literally "Revived" and in the first fight with them the Samurai Powers are taken or destroyed. (Personally I like the idea of taken, this way they can still use thepowers, weapons and zords later on if needed).
And in a moment of Despair, we cut out to Gosei World with Master Head speaking to a group of 5 people. He speaks to them about the revival of these enemies in America. And that none of them are equipped for the fight in another country. (Why that is would have to be cleverly written) He also explains that there is a team of 6 "Samurai Power Rangers" that have been defeated by the old enemies.
So he sends the 5 (The 5 GoseiAngels) to America.
They confront Buredoran and engage in battle using the Gosei Powers.
After forcing Buredoran to retreat, the 5 reveal who they are to the Samurai Rangers. Explaining that they are Gosei Angels charged with protecting the earth. (This will be the only scene where mentioning of Angels appears in the show. Spoken only to create the link between the Sentai and PR. Also, how to breach the language barrier would have to be decided)
Master Head calls them through the Tensounders and gives further instructions.
Without hesitation the Gosei Angels ask for the useless Samurai Morphers. Master Head sends the Angels a card which is inserted into the Tensounders and a power transfer begins to take place. As the transfer is occurring, the Angels explain that they are giving them the Gosei Powers. But they are not Gosei Angels. They are Power Ranges whos powers have been recharged with Gosei Power. From that moment forward they will be known as the Gosei Power Rangers. The Gosei worlds resources are at their disposal. (Zords, Weapons, etc..) Master Head will communicate with them as time goes on. And as the powers are learned/controlled/understood, new powers will be given to them. (Headders and so on)
Gosei Knight comes in later. And restores the Gold Samurai Rangers powers. Making a team of 7.

Just an idea. Not by any means a finished product.

What do you all think?

i dont see why they cant just say angels?but i kinda like the idea of that,which i belive bandai may decide to do.some day.

[Takeru]

Well i think Saban dont wants to ofende Cristians and not the show have religious things because in PROO they use the Thor and some gods of North of Europe

well doesnt some comic have a sotry about that thor dude? if they were to use the term,like say,gosei angels,it probaly wouldnt soun that bad.or something like GoseiGuardian,yea,that sounds good.

[Digifiend]

Well i think Saban dont wants to ofende Cristians and not the show have religious things because in PROO they use the Thor and some gods of North of EuropePROO was Disney. And Andros, I can't see the word Gosei being used either.

[Thrax]

PROO was Disney. And Andros, I can't see the word Gosei being used either.

Well i dont see Saban use Gosei possible use another word !!!

[Digifiend]

Nicholas Varley will be doing the music for Power Rangers Samurai, along with Noam Kaniel. http://www.nicholasvarley.com/Home.html Also, the Nickelodeon PR page now says that Samurai is coming in February. Giving more credence to the Feb. 5th premiere date.That's good news. Because...
Noam Kaniel was a composer for MMPR.

[SapphireBuster]

PROO was Disney. And Andros, I can't see the word Gosei being used either.

That's going to require a bit of editing... since Gosei is pasted on most of the Headder cards.

[TZMhero]

That's going to require a bit of editing... since Gosei is pasted on most of the Headder cards.

Then don't use the header cards?

[Mr. Pink]

Well isnt there a law about marketing products in show

Hence why they redo all the yugioh cards in the shows (as well as digimon tamers)

[Andros]

But the point was to link continuity not to hash it apart.
Why would they not use Gosei?

[Huzzah]

Thor is a completely fictitious character. There are very few people around who still claim to be worshiping Norse Mythology. The majority of the world seems to be part of the Abrahamic faith (Jews, Catholics, Christians and Muslim), all which deal with the notions of Angels, and those are the people the can't risk offending. See you could call the Gosei characters Valkyries (despite Valkyries being female) and get away with it, its the same with other mythological religions (Roman, Greek, Norse, etc...).

[BlackWolf2007]

Well, I may not have anymore Viacom-owned channels anymore starting tomorrow such as Niclelodeon because my cable company Suddenlink is having contract problems with Viacom. If they don't renew the contract by today, we may lose all Viacom-owned channels, meaning I won't be able to watch PR or Spongebob 'til I get satellite.

[RedWildForceRanger25]

So has the theme song been revealed yet or is that the last piece of info we don't have. in the video on this thread, I did hear the original Go Go Power Rangers, I thought that was cool.

[nekollx]

That's going to require a bit of editing... since Gosei is pasted on most of the Headder cards.

Didn't Stop RPM, they renamed the weapons but the HUD of the combiner is IDENTICAL, names and all, to Go-Onger. Go on take a look, racing bullet, etc.


Thor is a completely fictitious character. There are very few people around who still claim to be worshiping Norse Mythology. The majority of the world seems to be part of the Abrahamic faith (Jews, Catholics, Christians and Muslim), all which deal with the notions of Angels, and those are the people the can't risk offending. See you could call the Gosei characters Valkyries (despite Valkyries being female) and get away with it, its the same with other mythological religions (Roman, Greek, Norse, etc...).


Loaded statement. The modern interpretation of Thor is a fictional character, certainly. Just because a religion fell out of vogue doesn't mean it isn't valid. I'd caution you to remember in another two thousand years we might have a SOLOMON: THE LEGENDARY JOURNEYS series. Actually, that would be an awesome show now, wouldn't it?

Still, the problem is that when you use elements from a YHWH-derived religion you're going to be called to task by the most fundamentalist sects of those faiths. Being a large, active religious body there will be more crackpots who want your head on a pike. It's easier to use a largely dead religion because their followers are just happy for the representation. And considering what a passionate Israeli Haim Saban is, I'd like to hope he'd nix any intention on Jonathan's party to hack Goseiger literally.

Thor as portrayed by marvel comics is ficticous, Ultimate Thor is a bit closer, the Norse gods are more like Hrcules or Wonderwoman. Great warriors with some REALLY sweet gear...

or Power Rangers now that i think about it...

[redranger1]

I'm actually looking forward to the series. WAY better than the Disney era!

[Hears All]

I'm actually looking forward to the series. WAY better than the Disney era!

You haven't seen the show yet, and we know it's going to be a hack of Sentai...nevermind

[CycloneMetal]

You haven't even seen ONE episode of Samurai, and already you're claiming it's better then the entire Disney era. HA! I LOVE IT!

[Digifiend]

Didn't Stop RPM, they renamed the weapons but the HUD of the combiner is IDENTICAL, names and all, to Go-Onger. Go on take a look, racing bullet, etc.Indeed, not for the first time either... check out these name change failures.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc327/TROV101/meagrangerspacewep.png
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc327/TROV101/Megarangerspacewep2.png
Megaranger weapon names in PRiS.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc327/TROV101/ZyuCoin5.png
Zyuranger instead of Power Rangers
http://i55.tinypic.com/24e1cwl.jpg
"Nezire Reaction Search" - Nejire is the name of Megaranger's villains. Should probably have been changed to "Monster"
http://i55.tinypic.com/2byxqt.png
MegaBlue? MegaYellow? Shouldn't that say Blue Ranger and Yellow Ranger? Or at least Power instead of Mega as per the roll call.

Thanks to Vickram101 and Mach_Full_Force who originally posted these images.

[Zeo Ranger VII]

^These kind of don't bother me for some reason. Even as a kid. I know its a Japanese show originally and I know that editing everything out would be impossible.

[Fury Diamond]

Reuploaded the first teaser with improved audio.
t4fdC-pNu8E

[Thrax]

Reuploaded the first teaser with improved audio.
t4fdC-pNu8E

Cool, thanks FD !!!

[JKahn913]

I can imagine kids mimicking the "Go, go, samurai!" morph call. But it's a bit more whimsical than the show has had in a while, maybe ever.

[OujaStrike]

Looks like we got our Official Date of Power Rangers Samurai


I just seen a commercial on Nicktoons, and the date is confirmed. February 7th at 8:00


straight up premiere


I'm saying P.M.

[Mr. Green]

Yeah, I heard that, too. Kind of odd to have it premiere on a Monday, though.

[OujaStrike]

yeah i thought it would start on Saturday.

Heres The Video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yw_pzOiAjE

[Digifiend]

:oh:So we have to wait an extra two days... why the heck are they showing new episodes on a Monday!?!

I guess that explains why the powerrangers.com countdown clock was taken down... the date was wrong.

[OujaStrike]

I agree i think everyone thought it would be on the weekends, or what could happen the debut is on monday then it goes to weekends to see how the ratings go.

[SapphireBuster]

Didn't Toon Disney primere Power Rangers on Monday nights? (I remember watching Mystic Force eps on Monday night every week.)

[OujaStrike]

Didn't Toon Disney primere Power Rangers on Monday nights? (I remember watching Mystic Force eps on Monday night every week.)

I think so

[Digifiend]

It was Monday. The first two episodes aired February 20th 2006. But I can't find the exact time.

[DarkBlaze]

I don't have an issue with them premiering it on Monday. Either way, I'm sure it'll do fine in ratings (especially with how much promotion it has gotten).

[SapphireBuster]

It was Monday. The first two episodes aired February 20th 2006. But I can't find the exact time.

If I recall it was 8:00 EST.

[President Ranger]

I live in the midwest. Mystic force showed at 7 p.m. for me which means it showed at 8 on the East coast. I'm happy with the premiere date and time. I loved that MF aired in the evening. I'm not a fan of early saturday morning new episodes.

[Rheannan]

We already know of Power Rangers Samurai (Obviously) so why not make a link between PR and Super Sentai rather than act like the other does not exist.

Just an idea. Not by any means a finished product.

That idea might have worked better if the seasons were shown at around the same time. Also, it would be a bit strange to bring the Goseigers into it and then have the adaptation of Goseiger in the next Power Rangers season.

Personally, I'd rather they kept them separate.

[DarkBlaze]

I'm not a fan of early saturday morning new episodes.Now that I'm older, I totally agree. When I was younger, it was fun getting up early to watch some of my favorite shows. But with work and everything, all I wanna do is sleep in on Saturdays. lol

[President Ranger]

I always hated the early morning new episodes. I remember when I was a kid I would miss the new LG episodes because I had basketball early on saturday and I would often miss the new LSR episodes from over sleeping.

[Takeru]

^ no you mad,lol,nice avi

[Mr. Black]

I'm happy with the premiere date and time. I'd much rather have it in primetime than in the morning.

[NCBradin]

I'm happy with the premiere date and time. I'd much rather have it in primetime than in the morning.

Be honest with me. Do you really want the franchise to die?? Having PR in the morning is not really good idea. It would draws only few million viewers, if you will. So, it's good idea if PR in primetime in the evening. Trust me, it will draws lots, lots, lots more million viewers, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens!

[Quark]

Billions, perhaps!

[OujaStrike]

I'm happy with the premiere date and time. I'd much rather have it in primetime than in the morning.

I Agree if it was on at 8AM on Monday i would miss it due to Work i'll would have to DVR it and sometimes it does not record.

[theultamitezeo]

okay one more question what was the name of the other form that shinken red used except for the super samurai form, its the one with the dragon sword i think?

[O.92]

I wonder if we'll be getting 1 or 2 episodes.

Either way, I just can't get used to the fact that Power Rangers is going to be airing on Nickelodeon. But I like the date. The day after the Super Bowl so as soon as the NFL season finishes, the fun doesn't stop for me.

[OujaStrike]

I hope it 2 Episodes on the 7th since Saban used to have at lease 2 Episodes debut for some of it's PR Seasons.

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Be honest with me. Do you really want the franchise to die??

Kids shows premiering at night is asinine. Truly young kids don't care about premieres. Kids who care about premieres are excited to race home from school to see a new episode DVRed that morning and that won't compete with, oh, dinnertime with the family. DVR recordings count for ratings.

If he's on a Power Rangers board and he's excited to see the show, then yes. He cares about Power Rangers. That shouldn't be called into question.