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Fury Diamond
03-05-2011, 04:22 PM
Power Rangers Samurai
Episode 5: A Fish Out of Water
March 6, 2011
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Fury Diamond
03-06-2011, 09:03 AM
The recipe of the day...PB&J Omelette
Black Bolt
03-06-2011, 09:04 AM
Finaly a opening that feels natural
3zekeial
03-06-2011, 09:09 AM
The MOTD used a big word... Halitosis!
SteveBater
03-06-2011, 09:22 AM
Kevin is really annoying. I don't like him.
I don't like how the MOTD's power was changed from poison to bad breath.
And Kevin's dad's voice sounds like a very bad Morgan Freeman impersonation.
Also, they never explain why Kevin is tired [aka Mojikara]
Thanks for a "Direct translation" Saban. You suck.
Btw, i'm glad it's not a real direct translation, but don't promise if you can't deliever.
Black Bolt
03-06-2011, 09:24 AM
THey were still poisoned they blantly said it out loud. And it's very easy to see why he's tired
Mr. Pink
03-06-2011, 09:24 AM
Oh Mia... shaming my color more and more each week...
This episode didn't really make sense to copy scene for scene, but it wasn't that bad... The lines were still cheesy but much better.
Wait did Mia do the wrong pose after the morph? Emily was kneeling but Mia wasn't?
Kevin's father kind of seemed out of context at the pool... why would they do that in such a public place? (thats the same place where all the footage of him swimming comes from)
Mike's lines were lame... the alliteration was bad here....
Why didn't Kevin get his Mega Blade ready for the final slash if the others did?
The fisherman made no sense...
For the most part the delivery of all of the rangers was much better, though the delivery of Najee's wasn't so great at times when he over pronounced some of his lines...
Fury Diamond
03-06-2011, 09:26 AM
I actually liked Alex and Najee's acting in this episode.
SteveBater
03-06-2011, 09:27 AM
THey were still poisoned they blantly said it out loud. And it's very easy to see why he's tired
Why? Because he was using symbols? THey dont explain how that would make him tired.
AND. THey did say "poisoned" but it was because of his breath, not actual poison.
At least we see JUZO though!!!
3zekeial
03-06-2011, 09:33 AM
I still can't the MOTD used "swagga" that was the best part of the episode.
Barracuda
03-06-2011, 09:36 AM
I enjoyed this episode, it was actually pretty interesting. I enjoyed some of the cheesy lines. Im getting excited especially after I saw the stranger villain come out of nowhere observing them.
President Ranger
03-06-2011, 09:37 AM
I missed the first 8 minutes of this episode because I over slept (lol) so this probably is effecting my rating, but I feel like the part I saw was just "ok". The only things I liked about this episodes was Deker finally showing up and how dedicated of a red ranger they are showing Jayden to be. Other than that, it was a below average filler/zord intro episode.
Vickram101
03-06-2011, 09:39 AM
This episode was awesome, it was really different from the sentai version. Love that Juzo is coming. Did anyone noticed that Jii has a shodow phone, not a samuraizer and it's gold?
Mr. Pink
03-06-2011, 09:43 AM
This episode was awesome, it was really different from the sentai version. Love that Juzo is coming. Did anyone noticed that Jii has a shodow phone, not a samuraizer and it's gold?
I couldnt tell which phone it was... it looked more like a samuraizer.... but it could be the wooden shoudophones
NCBradin
03-06-2011, 09:46 AM
I couldnt tell which phone it was... it looked more like a samuraizer.... but it could be the wooden shoudophones
Wooden shoudophone?! I don't think so. I know it's gold. What make you say that, eh?
Vickram101
03-06-2011, 09:47 AM
Wooden shoudophone?! I don't think so. I know it's gold. What make you say that, eh?
Because Shinken Jii had a wooden Shoudophone.
But yeah that might lead people into thinking that he would be the gold ranger. XD
NCBradin
03-06-2011, 09:48 AM
Shinken Jii had a wooden Shoudophone
R-r-really? Mannnn......I must be very old man now, eh? lol
I remember now. Thanks.
I feel my review is going to be slightly biased just because the final Deker scene released my inner fanboy. But man, I cannot wait to see how they're going to explain Cole AnimalLovingGuardianOfTheEarth Evans turning into a complete badass. I'm expecting a really good story out of this. Worst case scenario, it's something dumb like "Cole was put under a spell". But I want something juicy. Even though he probably will become good again by season's end.
--Good to see Mia's bad cooking continue. It needs to be a recurrent theme. Unlike Emily's one time depressants showing last week that's going to feel dumb and out of place in the long run.
--That Samurai Escalade is sweet as hell.
--You know, even though Bulk & Skull have no real connection to this series yet, I'm still enjoying their scenes. Although it did seem very out of place this week. They're not even on the same beach as Kevin.
--Hey Yamiror, SHUT THE **** UP! The whole "poison breath" stuff was working fine for me until they had to keep going with the rotten food, brushing teeth jokes. The acting might be bad, but I'd much rather do away with these lame puns.
--Good for Jayden, getting up and fighting like that. Good Red Ranger qualities. Even though I enjoyed seeing Yamiror body slam him on the car.
--So...let me get this straight. Some random dude of no importance tells Kevin "you can do it", and because of that...Kevin is able to do it? Magically? After hours of struggling? There was absolutely no need to have that random dude in this episode. At all.
--I'm not usually one to knock the Sentai source material, but that Swordfish Megazord combo is so dumb. So dumb.
--Cute ending. I'd take more like that rather than overgrown teens running after an ice cream truck.
Overall, not a bad episode, and definitely a step up over last week. I enjoyed it. Probably the best we've gotten so far from Samurai, maybe 2nd best. And hooray for Kevin's Morgan Freeman like father!
Fury Diamond
03-06-2011, 10:10 AM
This was one of the better episodes. Kevin's fishing scenes and the unmorphed Rangers fights were great. The cast did a better job in this episode, especially in their "poisoned" state.
I agree the Fisherman seemed off. They could've shown him training Kevin in the proper way to catch the fish rather than being a silent mentor. His reaction to the Swordfish was priceless.
Deker's appearance near the end was the icing.
Vickram101
03-06-2011, 10:43 AM
I seriously doubt that cole is juzo.
Did Ricardo appear as Cole?
No, Deker spoke and it was clearly Ricardo's voice. I suppose they could have brought Ricardo back not to reprise the Cole character, but...I find that unlikely. Someone on Rangerboard said you could hear a Red Lion sound at the end too, but I must have missed it. I'll have to go back and check it out.
Samurai Pink
03-06-2011, 10:54 AM
I thought the episode was incredible. I really loved the scene when Kevin finally caught the swordfish. BTW it's not marlin. Other than the out of place fisherman and the Bulk and Spike scenes, this episode was surely tied in with act 7. I guess the rangers use a black suv as their 'Kukoro'. I too did sort of hear a lion roar at the end as well, in shinkenger Juzo's sword makes a high pitched whistling sound. And when Deker spoke it did sound like Ricardo. I guess we'll know for sure next week if it is indeed him.
Fury Diamond
03-06-2011, 10:59 AM
Enter Deker
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Uhhh...I heard no lion. But that music sounds eerily familiar. Anyone recognize it as a throwback or original villain piece from Wild Force?
Another thing. "The Samurai Rangers have returned, but so have I." So, if this is Cole...that means he knew the original Samurai Rangers?
EDIT: I'm wrong. There is a lion.
SirGreen
03-06-2011, 11:08 AM
This episode sounds cool. Deker looks awesome. Thats cool ricardo is a villian. Just dont have him on set we dont need a wf ranger, wouldnt make sence :P
rogueguy
03-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Aside from Kevin's downright awful acting, I enjoyed this episode. The show seems to have settled into a level of mediocrity I can dig.
Emily and Mike's facial expressions in the opening scene were hilarious
Bulk and Spike are back to being completely random and annoying
The fisherman was as useless as Mentor Ji
Glad Mike called Jayden out on his 'you guys shouldn't be here, your sick" line.
Twin Blade mode is badass
"You can't just order us around anymore!" Huh? Just shut up Kevin.
I liked the way the usual stock footage(the morph, calling for the zords, etc) was edited in this episode.
And oh God, just when I'm starting to enjoy this season Ricardo Medina shows up :(
Samurai Pink
03-06-2011, 11:20 AM
So I was right, there wouldn't be cross dressing involved in ep 6. Well it did happen in act 8. But I guess Saban didn't want to go through with that. But I do like Emily being in wedding dress. Did anyone else hear Ricardo's voice at the end of ep 5? I sure did and the lion roar. Next weeks ep is going to be great, the rangers first battle with Deker and Dayu. :)
Mr. Pink
03-06-2011, 11:21 AM
I really loved the scene when Kevin finally caught the swordfish. BTW it's not marlin.
It was likely a marlin in Shinkenger... the two are closely related... Marlin have much shorter "snouts" than swordfish. Swordfish however sounds better with a season based on samurai
Its like Kotoha's Monkey becoming Emily's Ape
Thrax
03-06-2011, 11:24 AM
Did anyone else hear Ricardo's voice at the end of ep 5? I sure did and the lion roar. Next weeks ep is going to be great, the rangers first battle with Deker and Dayu. :)
There is about time the Villans come outside and battle the ranger in person because "Dekard" will be great rival for the Samurai rangers in special to Jayden.
Huzzah
03-06-2011, 12:01 PM
Honestly I liked this episode better than most of the previous ones...I'm not sure why...
Bulk and Spike took a step back from last week...last week they met the monster and were ready to fight...so I though, "Hey, maybe we'll finally start seeing some form of interaction." This week though...no purpose at all...
I still HATE the monsters...I just want the puns to go away...is that saking too much...at least Deckard sounds like he'll refrain form jokes...maybe a level of seriousness will benefit this season...
I'll give Jayden props in this episode, his acting seems to be the most improved, and I liked how he essentially told Ji to sod off, because there was work to be done. He may yet have the potential to have some personality.
Emily returned to Yellow-Colored Space filler again, (plus she said "are you okay/alright like 20 times...)
Mia...just...no...
Kevin...still not likeable...and the fisherman was kind of pointless, but I did like his line when the fish was caught...
Mike cracked a joke in there somewhere...that was about it...
Ji...just go away...
What about the Moogers? I mean we saw Rita's putties countless times back in the day...we've seen Moogers like twice...I mean I hate the name...but throw some foot soldiers around every once in awhile...that'd give us some chance for good un-morphed fighting sequences...I mean if the cast actually have some martial arts talent, lets see it...
But honestly I didn't hate this one as much as others...but that was probably because I enjoyed seeing Jayden stepping up and I enjoyed seeing the Deckard character...maybe he can inject some seriousness into the series...and hopefully make it something worth watching...
Also...FREAKIN LION ROAR...that was awesome, and pretty much shatters any illusions that Ricardo Medina is returning as Cole. Don't get me wrong, I hated Cole back in the day, but if they can crop together a half decent story about how Cole Evans has now become some kind of BA Baddie...I may actually grow to like the character...but then again I could be giving far too much credit to this series writers. Because instead of using something like this to begin creating some kind of decent original story, that could finally have less of a copy-water-paste storyline...they'll waste the opportunity and keep the show in the "worst Ranger season ever " category by forcing Shinken plots that don't fit with Power Rangers...
Mr. Pink
03-06-2011, 12:29 PM
They might as well just make the WF cast into the different villains...
Black Bolt
03-06-2011, 12:46 PM
If they would just shut up and fight it would be better. Kevin would not shut up the whole megazord fight. Jayden is growing on me. His acting is seriously improving each episode
theultamitezeo
03-06-2011, 12:58 PM
anyone notice how jiis phone was gold? maybe the gold samurai ranger is jii's son
Thrax
03-06-2011, 01:01 PM
anyone notice how jiis phone was gold? maybe the gold samurai ranger is jii's son
Well that could happen but i think we have to wait and see the Gold ranger debut !!!
TimeKaiser
03-06-2011, 01:04 PM
I have only one problem with the episode. Another relative of a ranger has a New Zealand accent! >_<;
NCBradin
03-06-2011, 01:10 PM
I have only one problem with the episode. Another relative of a ranger has a New Zealand accent! >_<;
Oh, who's that would be?
Andros
03-06-2011, 01:30 PM
That was an awesome episode! I loved it.
I think I am gonna say this every time but, NOT ENOUGH EMILY! :P
She such a hottie!
Quark
03-06-2011, 01:42 PM
I wish this show would stop implying the Rangers are somehow earning these new powers they get each week.
Fury Diamond
03-06-2011, 01:43 PM
You can find the encode in the PRS Encode (http://www.rangercrew.com/forum/showthread.php?18705-Power-Rangers-Samurai-Encodes) thread.
TimeKaiser
03-06-2011, 01:44 PM
Oh, who's that would be?
This is the only way I can think of to type it:
*insert Kevin's flashback from the episode here*
-G2eNmBiSAY
DarkBlaze
03-06-2011, 01:50 PM
Hmmm, pretty solid episode. Everything was pretty much direct from the source, except for the "Fisherman" part. I didn't like the way they handled that part of this plot, but it was okay.
Once again, the CHARACTER Kevin continues to be one of my favorites. Unfortunately, Najee fails to fully portray the character to its full potential. He had some descent moments, but out of the entire cast he fails to make Kevin truly believable. I hope he improve in the later episodes, because I really like Kevin.
As always, the Bulk and Spike moments are random as heck! But hey, at least we know they're within the vicinity of the Rangers. Counts for something, right? lol
I really enjoyed the scene (s) where we saw the team suffering. Major kudos to the cast making truly believable that they were in pain.
All in all, I give this episode a 4/5. A pretty descent adaption, and the ending was golden! I look forward to how they handled the future feud between Red and Juzo/Deker. The fun is really about to begin!
Squizz
03-06-2011, 01:52 PM
Uhhh...I heard no lion. But that music sounds eerily familiar. Anyone recognize it as a throwback or original villain piece from Wild Force?
I couldn't fight the urge to go check, it is eerily similar, the piece I compared wasn't identical but really couldn't get much similar, there are several similar esque music themes to that through the episode the Master's Last Stand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JddK4nyVXYM
I don't know whether to hate or love this new turn, certainly intrigued me enough to give the new episode a chance. I hope they play this either light and not give Deker a human form or go for it ! Anything that'll make this Power Rangers and not Shinkenger diluted is a definite thumbs up in my book.
NCBradin
03-06-2011, 01:53 PM
Oh, I muted it. Sorry..thanks for telling me that.
Andros
03-06-2011, 01:56 PM
I really have a feeling it is. Granted you never saw Renee's face in PRSPD but still. Grumm is a mentor now? Bet we wont get an explanation fro that either!
Samurai Pink
03-06-2011, 02:05 PM
Well SG, in Shinkenger, Juzo (Deker's counterpart) was the only villain with a human form, not counting Dayu whose human form was only shown in flashbacks.
That's true, Deker's human form of course. I guess I did spell his name right. Deker would show up in his human form during the battle between Kevin and Jayden in ep 7. I'm guessing that the gold samurai ranger would be Jayden's childhood friend. Just like Takeru and Genta.
DarkBlaze
03-06-2011, 02:07 PM
For those interested, here is the background to Deker's counterpart (credit goes to SuperSentai.com (http://www.supersentai.com/))
Juzo Fuwa is a mysterious Gedoushu, regarded by the others as a lone wolf, yet he seems to know more than Doukoku about the Sanzu River's true potential. He first appears in Episode 7. Juzo was previously a human master swordsman in life, eventually becoming disenchanted with the ways of bushido and thriving more on the pleasure of killing his opponents in battle. When he contracts a fatal illness, Juzo enters the Sanzu River to cheat death, completely discarding the goodness in his heart to become a Gedou, a half-Gedoushu that can freely exist in both realms and keep his human form. As a result, Juzo is condemned with an insatiable urge to find an ideal opponent, a fellow samurai who strays from the teachings of bushido, to clash blades with, saying his katana,
Uramasa hungers for it. He finds this opponent in Takeru Shiba, after witnessing his swordfighting. He had asked Doukoku permission to fight Shinken Red and Doukoku blindly approved without realizing he was the one to seal him. This obsession with fighting Shinken Red leads Doukoku to seal Juuzo's Gedoushu powers, leaving him for dead in the Sanzu River. Although he barely survives with Dayu's aid, he cured Takeru of Shitari's poisoning. He makes Takeru promise to fight, but when Gold comes to save him, Juzo agrees to fight the next time. After a long battle in which he manages to severely wound Shinken Red, Juzo is defeated and falls off the cliff into the ocean below in Episode 26. Dayu seemed to have feelings for Juzo but after he made her realized she hadn't given up on her feelings for Shinza, she was peaved at him. His surname is translated as disemboweling. Later fed up waiting for the Uramasa to be repaired, Juzo confronts Akumaro and learns his weapon's origins and that he is a pawn in his plan. by fooling Akumaro into giving him back his tool and cutting him down, Juzo reveals he knew the truth behind Uramasa from the first time he held it, thus preventing Akumaro from fulfilling his plan. Later, after the real Shiba House head is revealed, Juzo gets Takeru to duel him once again before finally falling to him in battle with a delayed hit after Uramasa finally stops its master and denies him his only desire. Uramasa remains in the physical world after Juzo fades away until the souls that formed it are finally able to depart into the afterlife.
Razor
03-06-2011, 02:15 PM
I honestly expected that guy that rescied Kevin to be the Swordfish zord in human form (kinda like Animus).
TimeKaiser
03-06-2011, 02:34 PM
I hope we don't end up with more relatives of the Samurai Rangers that have obvious New Zealand accents.
Digifiend
03-06-2011, 02:38 PM
We probably will, if they follow Shinkenger. Mike's Dad and Mia's parents should show up (although the episode with Chiaki's dad was the one with the Decade cameos, so it may be cut).
TimeKaiser
03-06-2011, 02:42 PM
We probably will, if they follow Shinkenger. Mike's Dad and Mia's parents should show up (although the episode with Chiaki's dad was the one with the Decade cameos, so it may be cut).
I can deal with having more relatives, just not all of them having obvious New Zealand accents.
Digifiend
03-06-2011, 02:45 PM
I really have a feeling it is. Granted you never saw Renee's face in PRSPD but still. Grumm is a mentor now? Bet we wont get an explanation fro that either!Actually we did see his face in SPD. There was one episode where he took a human disguise.
Digifiend
03-06-2011, 02:47 PM
Only the Rangers and Deker are from the US. Single episode cast members are NZ actors.
Andros
03-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Oh thats right! I forgot. At Piggys!
Razor
03-06-2011, 02:52 PM
Does he even HAVE a name? They call him mentor all the time. I can't rememeber if it was this episode or the last one, but they called him mentor and sensei in the same episode. Can't they make up their minds?
SaiTurtlesninjaNX
03-06-2011, 03:10 PM
Kavin SUCKS in this episode. That all there is to it. His acting was just bad.
Jayden was AWESOME! His acting was alot better in this episode. His characters seem to be more flesh out.
Mike was good as always.
The girls will we need to see more of them.
Juzo/Deker at the end was awesome.
Bulk and Spike wasn't as good as the last episode.
Story and plot was the OK. What Jayden was doing is this episode was good for fleshing out his characters.
All in all this was another good episode even those it was a bad characters Focus episode.
TimeKaiser
03-06-2011, 03:31 PM
Only the Rangers and Deker are from the US. Single episode cast members are NZ actors.
I never once brought up the actor factor. I'm saying I can't stand the idea of a team of five rangers with american accents in the Power Rangers universe ALL having relatives who speak with a New Zealand accent.
Legacy
03-06-2011, 04:29 PM
Deker looks like a badass. I liked Juzo, but Deker just looks better even if it is same. :p
momotroniuity
03-06-2011, 04:32 PM
We probably will, if they follow Shinkenger. Mike's Dad and Mia's parents should show up (although the episode with Chiaki's dad was the one with the Decade cameos, so it may be cut).
Considering that the scenes with the Decade characters in that episode were minimal they can probably replace it with Bulk and Spike scenes, and you wouldn't know the difference.
Digifiend
03-06-2011, 04:41 PM
Does he even HAVE a name? They call him mentor all the time. I can't rememeber if it was this episode or the last one, but they called him mentor and sensei in the same episode. Can't they make up their minds?It was rumoured to be Takeru, and the HQ, Shiba House, kept it's Sentai name, so it seems to be Takeru Shiba, the same name as ShinkenRed. But it hasn't been mentioned in the show so far and he's credited as Mentor Ji.
Mr. White
03-06-2011, 04:54 PM
The episode was eh.. until Deker showed up. I wish the Ranger would shut up a bit during their fight scenes. Hopefully they make Deker a badass in the show.
afaris83
03-06-2011, 05:14 PM
Deker looks like a badass. I liked Juzo, but Deker just looks better even if it is same. :p
It helps that he's noticeably darker in tone than everyone else in the show - compared to Shinkenger where everyone was generally more serious and the show 'darker and edgier' as a whole - making him stand out more. Coolness is all relative.
Also, I've noticed a trend with each episode's moral/lesson/plot - obstacles are overcome by wanting it enough and through vague 'training'/determination. Personally, I thought it would have made more sense if Kevin was shown to be impatient when trying to catch the swordfish, with the fisherman then explaining that he's scaring it away and needs to be more calm and relax in order to draw it him.
Huzzah
03-06-2011, 05:26 PM
I hope they arent just gonna cast Ricardo as Deker and not even mention his link to PRWF. But I am sorta worried that is what is gonna happen. :(
I think the lion's roar when we see Deckard (or however you spell it) basically in the end kind of alludes to the fact that he is Cole somewhere in there... That's a subtle hint, but a hind none-the-less. Remember back in Forever Red after talking about knowing nothing about space ships, Cole said he would do WHATEVER it takes to protect Earth...maybe that means having to make a deal with a demon to provide a host body...so Cole essentially shares his soul and body with a demon...he's still there, but he's sharing memories of 2 creatures.
Mr. White
03-06-2011, 05:28 PM
I think the lion's roar when we see Deckard (or however you spell it) basically in the end kind of alludes to the fact that he is Cole somewhere in there... That's a subtle hint, but a hind none-the-less. Remember back in Forever Red after talking about knowing nothing about space ships, Cole said he would do WHATEVER it takes to protect Earth...maybe that means having to make a deal with a demon to provide a host body...so Cole essentially shares his soul and body with a demon...he's still there, but he's sharing memories of 2 creatures.
It's spelled Deker.
Huzzah
03-06-2011, 05:37 PM
It's spelled Deker.
Preciate it, I couldn't remember which way was which...
I think the lion's roar when we see Deckard (or however you spell it) basically in the end kind of alludes to the fact that he is Cole somewhere in there... That's a subtle hint, but a hind none-the-less. Remember back in Forever Red after talking about knowing nothing about space ships, Cole said he would do WHATEVER it takes to protect Earth...maybe that means having to make a deal with a demon to provide a host body...so Cole essentially shares his soul and body with a demon...he's still there, but he's sharing memories of 2 creatures.
Although I'd be OK with that, they won't be that creative. I'm 99% sure about that. But that's what makes this scenario so perplexing. Cole was one of the "goodest" Rangers this franchise has ever seen. We may not like him, but this guy LOVED animals and wanted to save the Earth with a passion that one else ever had. Hell, he even had his parents killed off by their best friend. So he's experienced pain like a *****. You add all that up and now you need to give us an explanation as to how he's turned into a badass looking to destroy the protectors of the Earth? Now I'm just afraid. This season has been taking shortcuts, and cheap, easy ways out of everything thus far. That's why I'm VERY afraid they're going to give us something cheap and easy like "Cole was put under a spell, the end". In which case if that happens, I'm putting Samurai down as the worst season automatically...
...even though it's likely to achieve that title even without Cole.
SilverPirate
03-06-2011, 06:19 PM
I don't believe it... This episode didn't completely suck! o_o
The only real complaints I have about this episode are the monster's incessant pun-spewing and the bit where Mia shows the others her PB&J omlette. Why can the others be honest with her? "Mia, you can't cook very well. Perhaps one day you'll become a better cook. Maybe we can help you improve." Her friends should learn some manners.
Also...Deker's voice is friggin' epic!
KalishPlosion
03-06-2011, 06:29 PM
My thoughts...
Najee and Erika still can't act, and Brittney was once again shoved into the background.
Alex was good except for one line in there... when the poisoned rangers joined the fight, he seemed to fit two sentences into the space of one sentence, and it seemed wrong.
The puns are starting to get out of hand, but not intolerable.
Deker's entrance seemed contorted... one glimpse of no more than two seconds, and THEN a scene at the end.
No use covering up the logo... we know the samauri get around in Escalades!
Other than that, not a bad episode. I give it an OK, but a very high OK.
momotroniuity
03-06-2011, 06:32 PM
I think the lion's roar when we see Deckard (or however you spell it) basically in the end kind of alludes to the fact that he is Cole somewhere in there... That's a subtle hint, but a hind none-the-less. Remember back in Forever Red after talking about knowing nothing about space ships, Cole said he would do WHATEVER it takes to protect Earth...maybe that means having to make a deal with a demon to provide a host body...so Cole essentially shares his soul and body with a demon...he's still there, but he's sharing memories of 2 creatures.
While it could mean something significant, It could all be nothing more than a mythology gag.
shielded117
03-06-2011, 06:47 PM
I was really pleased with those episode, the acting had improved all around, and the puns weren't as bad.
Kevin's dad... Correct me if I'm wrong, but did he basically say that he used to be a Samurai Ranger? Not just training to be ranger, but an actual ranger? If so, could it be that Mentor (I'm becoming more and more convinced this is his first name) used to be the Gold Ranger, explaining why he used the Gold Samuraizer.
Deker... I'm really hoping that they give us some depth with him and actually explain why the "Innocent and Pure" Cole Evans has fallen from grace. Could it be Org related?
Razor
03-06-2011, 07:02 PM
It was rumoured to be Takeru, and the HQ, Shiba House, kept it's Sentai name, so it seems to be Takeru Shiba, the same name as ShinkenRed. But it hasn't been mentioned in the show so far and he's credited as Mentor Ji.
That's my point. "Ji". Should they not be calling him that all the time instead of "mentor"?
MegaBlue
03-06-2011, 07:04 PM
They might as well just make the WF cast into the different villains...
You know, I could see Dayu as once being Taylor. Octoroo... Danny? I don't know who you'd shoehorn into Xandred's position. Merrick?
terrierlee
03-06-2011, 07:27 PM
...Ji was using a wooden Samuraizer.
WOODEN. MEANING LIGHT BROWN AND MADE OF WOOD. It's the exact same one Jii used in Shinken.
shielded117
03-06-2011, 07:35 PM
Dude, are you even watching the same episode. It is a Gold Samuraizer. There is nothing wooden about it. It looks exactly like the Samuraizers that the rangers have but Golden. Same curves, same loop at the bottom. Plus it's shiny and metallic-y.
Compare it to the picture of Gold Ranger's Samuraizer from the the Toy Fair.
Andros
03-06-2011, 07:49 PM
shielded117
The gold rangers morpher is Sliver.
That is according to the Toy Fair just like you told me to go look at. Not the same one.
But the one Ji used in PRS is the same one that his counterpart Ji used in Shinkenger. It is a wooden Soudouphone/Samurizer the color just looks gold
DarkBlaze
03-06-2011, 07:56 PM
Phone used in Shinkenger:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8168/69024575.jpg
Phone used in Samurai (photo from Samurai Cast site):
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6331/ji428329.jpg
As you can see, the one in Samurai more detailed, shiny, and is gold. However, it isn't the Gold Rangers Samuraizer:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1199/indexax.jpg
Sushi Changer from Shinkenger (photo from SuperSentai.com):
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1077/shinkenarsushichanger.jpg
shielded117
03-06-2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah... I definitely feel foolish now... For some reason I kept remembering Gold Ranger's morpher being well, gold. But alas it was just the keypad.:embarassed: I do apologize.
However, my point still stands that it's not wooden. :x:
Andros
03-06-2011, 08:02 PM
Well, no...for all realistic purposes, its plastic! But its, "supposed" to be wooden. :P
And dont feel foolish, we werent tryin to make you feel that way.
If I made you feel that way, I apologize.
shielded117
03-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Oh no, it's not your fault. I should have double checked my facts first, especially when the information I tried to use to prove my point, I was mistaken about.
DarkBlaze
03-06-2011, 08:12 PM
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3276/3eaaaorigthemoreyouknow.jpg
SirGreen
03-06-2011, 08:39 PM
Thats awesome.
nekollx
03-06-2011, 09:29 PM
The recipe of the day...PB&J Omelette
Is'n't that bad
Oh Mia... shaming my color more and more each week...
This episode didn't really make sense to copy scene for scene, but it wasn't that bad... The lines were still cheesy but much better.
Wait did Mia do the wrong pose after the morph? Emily was kneeling but Mia wasn't?
Kevin's father kind of seemed out of context at the pool... why would they do that in such a public place? (thats the same place where all the footage of him swimming comes from)
Mike's lines were lame... the alliteration was bad here....
Why didn't Kevin get his Mega Blade ready for the final slash if the others did?
The fisherman made no sense...
For the most part the delivery of all of the rangers was much better, though the delivery of Najee's wasn't so great at times when he over pronounced some of his lines...
I'll agree that this seemed less cring worthy, but that's wort of my deal, i give them till the focus episodes are over to decide, and the acting seems better, hope it keeps up it feels like all the ranger grew a good 5 years in maturity, brining them to the rip old age of 12.
I couldnt tell which phone it was... it looked more like a samuraizer.... but it could be the wooden shoudophones
A samuraizer but a gold one. Maybe he gives it to "Genta" heck maybe he us the Gold Ranger but is retired and "Genta" is his legacy replacement?
Some other thoughts, maybe the fisher guy gets curious about the "woerd swordfish disc" and he becomes Richard Brown...
Huzzah
03-06-2011, 09:39 PM
Although I'd be OK with that, they won't be that creative. I'm 99% sure about that. But that's what makes this scenario so perplexing. Cole was one of the "goodest" Rangers this franchise has ever seen. We may not like him, but this guy LOVED animals and wanted to save the Earth with a passion that one else ever had. Hell, he even had his parents killed off by their best friend. So he's experienced pain like a *****. You add all that up and now you need to give us an explanation as to how he's turned into a badass looking to destroy the protectors of the Earth? Now I'm just afraid. This season has been taking shortcuts, and cheap, easy ways out of everything thus far. That's why I'm VERY afraid they're going to give us something cheap and easy like "Cole was put under a spell, the end". In which case if that happens, I'm putting Samurai down as the worst season automatically...
...even though it's likely to achieve that title even without Cole.
The whole Ranger (in this case former Ranger) under a spell scenario has been played out...though I'm sure that'll be the case this season...unfortunately. With even half way decent writers and a half way decent EP Samurai could have a chance to step up to the plate, make the first 5 episodes seem like a long forgotten memory. Like you said about Cole, he was one of the "goodest" Rangers in PR history, with some of the best intentions...if this writers were capable, a descent from super boy-scout to ultimate badass evil could make for an awesome story, and salvage this season from the worst...season...ever...
Maybe this season will pull a MMPR Season 1 (albeit a poor simile), with the first few episodes really having no over-arcing plot, or real depth...then BAM the Green Ranger saga came it, and MMPR went up in quality drastically...some drama was finally introduced in the series, as well as some real character development. Maybe Samurai is biding their time with below mediocre episodes and will finally step up the game with some real storylines and some real characterization for the cast...probably not...but maybe...right? Right? *crickets chirping*
ForeverRanger
03-06-2011, 10:08 PM
I like to believe that Cole just hit a low spot after Wild Force and crashed into a psychological meltdown. For every good, there is an evil inside of us. If they use that, I would be happy. He is human after all.
Huzzah
03-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Cole (flashback): "I don't know... much about......... spaceships... But I will go... wherever I must.......... to protect the Earth."
Disembodied Voice: How far will you go? What are the limits of what you will do? Would you give up your very soul to keep this meaningless planet safe?
Cole: “Who are you? Where are you?”
Disembodied Voice: I have been called many names...but you can call me Deker...and unless you agree to my terms...your planet will be drowned, and all would perish...
Cole: "What must I do?"
Huzzah
03-06-2011, 10:43 PM
If we had writers who could come up with better ideas than countless lame puns...with the Deker character and a potential connection Cole...it could be plausible to turn him from one of the least popular Rangers ever into one of the most popular.
A willing sacrifice to save the planet that he calls home (if they chose to go that route), to make his body home to a demonic force (probably defeated a long time ago by others using the Samurai power seals), only to be in a constant battle within himself as he struggles to maintain his evil half. Personally I'd give props to Cole for standing by his claim that he would go (or do) whatever he must to protect Earth, and it would make that totally awkward spoken line from Forever Red have some weight to it...
Alas...if only this season had writers capable of such things...
YellowAccel
03-07-2011, 12:21 AM
For the first time since the start of the season I have voted "Good. " I really appreciated!
+
. Deker's Apparence is cool. It really made me want to see the next episode. I liked the voice of Lion at the end.
. The fighting with the monster was well done in contrast to previous episodes.
. I have a little more affection for Jayden now.
. I still laugh with Mia's cooking.
. I liked the fact that the Rangers will go into the fight Despite they are sick. They rise in my esteem.
. The acting seems to have improved.
-
. Kevin and Emily still boring
. Ji's Role is too small for me. I really feel he is Jayden's Pupil at times.
. Sometimes the monsters should shut up
.I Don't like the new megazord.
.Bulk & Spike's Scene and the fisherman are useless
Thrax
03-07-2011, 12:22 AM
Awesome episode of PRS !!
Vickram101
03-07-2011, 03:38 AM
Yeah... I definitely feel foolish now... For some reason I kept remembering Gold Ranger's morpher being well, gold. But alas it was just the keypad.:embarassed: I do apologize.
However, my point still stands that it's not wooden. :x:
In any case Jii was still using a shodo phone instead of a samuraizer, which was awesome.
Thrax
03-07-2011, 05:04 AM
The episode it as really good
The Opening scene it as funny she Mia continue her abilities cooking and i really liked the Moment of Jayden choise Kevin to go and Find the Swordfish Zord really cool and we see the Black Van.
Kevin fishing the Zord it as funny now we can catch Zords like him.
The Flashback of Kevin it as cool it as cool see now they are put something about the past of the Samurai Rangers past
The scene with Fishman it as cool and funny.
Master Ji with Gold Samuraizer
I really liked the atitute of Jayden face the Monster even be sick really cool fight scenes between Jayden and the Monster and i liked see the Mysteries villan watch them in battle Deker.
The Megazord battle it as pretty cool the New Megazord combination it as awesome The New Swordfish Fencer Megazord really awesome it as cool to see Saban put cool Names to the New Megazords combinations.
The Final Scene of the Episode it as awesome Deker debut we The Roar but i think it is Tiger Roar because he have the White Tiger Zord at least in Shinkenger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwskYESA2sU
Now PRS will became even better with Deker !!!
ForeverGreen
03-07-2011, 07:29 AM
Ok we have 11 pages and I don't want to search but is ti just me or did Juzo/Dekard(whatever it is) I hear a hint of Rick Medina in there?
Overall it was a good episode the PB&J thing was just UGH, The Fisherman scene they changed it meant more in Shikenger. I can't wait how they do next weeks episode
ForeverBlue
03-07-2011, 07:42 AM
This was an awesome episode!
Huzzah
03-07-2011, 09:24 AM
Ok we have 11 pages and I don't want to search but is ti just me or did Juzo/Dekard(whatever it is) I hear a hint of Rick Medina in there?
Overall it was a good episode the PB&J thing was just UGH, The Fisherman scene they changed it meant more in Shikenger. I can't wait how they do next weeks episode
It wouldn't take much reading...it was pretty much agreed that was Rick Medina, also talk about hearing a lion's roar before he spoke...
Digifiend
03-07-2011, 09:43 AM
I've had a thought.. Jayden and Cole both have lion zords. Jayden and Deker will be fierce rivals if Takeru and Juzo are to be judged. Maybe that's why Ricardo was cast! Plus, in a funny coincidence, in Gokaiger, their zords are one and the same (GaoLion serves for ShinkenGokaiOh as well as GaoGokaiOh)
ForeverGreen
03-07-2011, 10:30 AM
It wouldn't take much reading...it was pretty much agreed that was Rick Medina, also talk about hearing a lion's roar before he spoke...
I only got to page 2 lol
Thrax
03-07-2011, 10:59 AM
I've had a thought.. Jayden and Cole both have lion zords. Jayden and Deker will be fierce rivals if Takeru and Juzo are to be judged. Maybe that's why Ricardo was cast! Plus, in a funny coincidence, in Gokaiger, their zords are one and the same (GaoLion serves for ShinkenGokaiOh as well as GaoGokaiOh)
Will be awesome to see Jayden vs Deker battles because they will be really big rivals in Shenkinger i think Deker will much like Ze-Aku is in WF.
Simango
03-07-2011, 11:29 AM
Well it looks like this one is 100 % adapted from the Japan version with a few of them not being used so this could be good actually.
Quark
03-07-2011, 11:35 AM
Cole (flashback): "I don't know... much about......... spaceships... But I will go... wherever I must.......... to protect the Earth."
Disembodied Voice: How far will you go? What are the limits of what you will do? Would you give up your very soul to keep this meaningless planet safe?
Cole: “Who are you? Where are you?”
Disembodied Voice: I have been called many names...but you can call me Deker...and unless you agree to my terms...your planet will be drowned, and all would perish...
Cole: "What must I do?"
Unfortunately, in reality it was like this:
Ricardo (flashback): "I don't know... much about... acting... But I will go... wherever I must.......... to collect a paycheck."
Disembodied Voice: How far will you go? What are the limits of what you will do? Would you go to New Zealand?
Ricardo: “Who are you? Where are you?”
Disembodied Voice: I have been called many names... but you can call me Haim... and unless you agree to my terms... your career will be drowned, and all would perish...
Ricardo: "What must I do?"
Vickram101
03-07-2011, 12:18 PM
Yea the whole "The power rangers are back and so am I" lol
now I'm not a big WF fan, But didn't all the rangers go their separate ways at the end? Here's my little guess on what they could do with this. Cole got cursed some how all Zen Aku style by the sword blah blah blah years later you get what i'm doing here lol
well he did say "The Samurai Rangers Are Back." How would he know about the Samurai Rangers from before? Also PRLS,PRWF and PRS is the only team of rangers where they powers existed for generations, so maybe they crossed paths before??? IDK.
Thrax
03-07-2011, 12:40 PM
well he did say "The Samurai Rangers Are Back." How would he know about the Samurai Rangers from before? Also PRLS,PRWF and PRS is the only team of rangers where they powers existed for generations, so maybe they crossed paths before??? IDK.
I think it is matter of Revenge like happens with always Evil Rangers or Creatures like the kind of Deker because if Team like Samurai and other have past recernations for shore Deker hve score to do with Samurai Rangers.
Squizz
03-07-2011, 02:31 PM
I wait on baited breath but this was better.. however , I wonder if that because I ignored most of what the monster said, and decided to count his useless puns, I counted 32 that was just the monster. Not even some of the awful ones the rangers came out with.
It's wrong that this show could be so much better if they just did some grunting and reaction sounds rather than all the god damn puns.
President Ranger
03-07-2011, 02:43 PM
The rangers did a lot of grunting, coughing, and reaction sounds in this episode.
Qarlf
03-07-2011, 03:31 PM
Eh, I thought the episode was good but not great. Didn't like the fact that the fisherman did nothing to help Kevin beside saying believe in yourself or something like that. Liked Deker arrival, still couldn't hear the lion in the last scene though. Looking forward to next Sunday episode.
FieryRed
03-07-2011, 04:32 PM
It seems like PR Samurai devotes more time on Mia's bad cooking, as opposed to Mako whose cooking only got a spotlight or get mentioned in a couple of eps or so.
Qarlf
03-07-2011, 04:34 PM
Very true, can't wait to see her impression when she tries her found herself. I have a feeling it might be Priceless.
Red Nature Ranger
03-07-2011, 04:49 PM
Eh, I thought the episode was good but not great. Didn't like the fact that the fisherman did nothing to help Kevin beside saying believe in yourself or something like that. Liked Deker arrival, still couldn't hear the lion in the last scene though. Looking forward to next Sunday episode.
its like right in the beginning of that forest scene.
Qarlf
03-07-2011, 05:13 PM
Oh I just heard it, thanks RNR.
adamclark83
03-07-2011, 06:28 PM
Another brilliant episode. Way to go Saban!!
Huzzah
03-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Another brilliant episode. Way to go Saban!!
Is that a hint of sarcasm I smell?
adamclark83
03-07-2011, 10:08 PM
No sarcasm whatsoever. I am absolutely loving Samurai.
Thrax
03-08-2011, 01:20 AM
Another brilliant episode. Way to go Saban!!
Thats for shore Saban it as made awesome work with PRS.
Huzzah
03-08-2011, 05:10 AM
No sarcasm whatsoever. I am absolutely loving Samurai.
Sorry then, usually when I see someone use the term "brilliant" its usually laced with sarcasm...
Aeon87
03-08-2011, 08:25 AM
hmm the point to the fisherman was? at least in shinkenger the fisherman actually had a decent role to play and it seemed like he was a previous samurai warrior. now the samurai rangers are calling their mega mode swords mega blades? when they were just katanas before? make up your mind. bulk and spike still don't fit into the episode
FieryRed
03-08-2011, 09:40 AM
I still don't see the point of the Mega suits, since they are confined to the cockpit only. And when you think about it, the Mega blades are essentially just glorified joysticks that are used to pilot the Megazord. I'd like to see Saban actually shoot footages of the Rangers using them in combat.
Thrax
03-08-2011, 10:05 AM
I think the Mega mode it just for they Pilot the Samurai Megazord but i think it better too make the rangers use the Mega mode outside of the Megazord will be much cooler to see that happens because have the Mega mode for the Megazord it is not really good because in Past seasons like LG,DT,SPD,MF, and JF the rangers always use the Upgrades inside and Outside of the Megazords because will be really awesome see the Mega modes outside of the Megazord cockpit i even think if will be Mega Mode when Jayden have the Bull Zord in PRS.
ForeverGreen
03-08-2011, 10:11 AM
hmm the point to the fisherman was? at least in shinkenger the fisherman actually had a decent role to play and it seemed like he was a previous samurai warrior. now the samurai rangers are calling their mega mode swords mega blades? when they were just katanas before? make up your mind. bulk and spike still don't fit into the episode
In Shiken the Fisherman was a servant to the previous lord and then he left(i think)
I haven't read this discussion, so I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but when the fisherman touched Kevin's back, there was a faint glow, or something. Could mean something.
Qarlf
03-08-2011, 10:48 AM
I thought that was just a nice gesture that he could catch the swordfish. But could mean something they didn't really go anywhere with the fisherman character. Could serve Mentor Jii later on but highly doubt it since there is no Kunkro (sp) guys.
Thrax
03-08-2011, 10:52 AM
The Gesture of Fisherman it as to give confidenc to Kevin to catch the Swordfish Zord
Huzzah
03-08-2011, 11:12 AM
For a breif instant it looked like we were going to get an real un-morphed fighting scene...but alas...no such luck...I mean we have a cast (most of which have some martial arts background), and we NEVER see them using that...I miss Rita's Putties...I miss Foot Soldiers in general (the Moogers are non-existent)...always Morphing seems like a cop out...all that training we see the Rangers doing at their home base is worthless, because as soon as you get all spandexed you don't need any type of power, because the suits essentially turn you up to 11...
Qarlf
03-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Well thanks Thrax.
MMPRfan90
03-08-2011, 11:47 AM
Show Notes:
-Mike is awesomeness.
-LOVED the breakfast scene.
-I HATE Ji's accent. Also his delivery of lines is just bad.
-So the rangers get chauffeured around huh? Guess that's the equivalent of the servants in black from Shinkenger. For some reason I'm thinking we'll see those servants in black at some point in Samurai.
-So the serious army type in Kevin was really talking about some, "Now I'm poppin'" Really though?! LOL!
-The puns are too damn much!
-Was cool seeing pink and yellow fight of the Nighlok.
-Loved the BLATANT Japanese civilian footage when the Nighlok attacks the Japanese girl walking down the square.
-After a second viewing, I think I was a little harsh on Kevin/Najee initially. He actually was pretty decent in the parts where he had to show emotion. It was the dramatic parts where he was awful.
-If you're burning up, standing in the sun fishing, wouldn't it make since to take your jacket off? Or how about taking your shirt off? I mean it would've helped with the realism.
-Who the F gets stuck in an innertube?! Spike grinds my nerves once again and him and... I'm sorry to say but Bulk too went back to being pointless.
-Why didn't the fisherman actually HELP Kevin reel in the swordfishzord?
Seeing Mia & Emily in wedding gowns and Jayden in a tux got me amped for next weeks episode. Also, we'll get more Decker which actually doesn't bother me.
Treknut001
03-08-2011, 12:11 PM
Mia really needs cooking lessons.
Samurai Pink
03-08-2011, 12:37 PM
I think the Mega mode it just for they Pilot the Samurai Megazord but i think it better too make the rangers use the Mega mode outside of the Megazord will be much cooler to see that happens because have the Mega mode for the Megazord it is not really good because in Past seasons like LG,DT,SPD,MF, and JF the rangers always use the Upgrades inside and Outside of the Megazords because will be really awesome see the Mega modes outside of the Megazord cockpit i even think if will be Mega Mode when Jayden have the Bull Zord in PRS.
The upgrades you are referring to would be lights of orion, Super dino mode, swat mode, legend warrior mode and jungle master mode. Which were used in Gingaman, Abaranger, Dekaranger and Gekiranger. Since Shinkenger has a super mode (the white and gold jackets), Genta created the Inomaru case for them. I would see no problem with the samurai rangers having the same thing. Just outside of the Samurai megazord cockpit. And their spin sword attacks would be upgraded as well.
Thrax
03-08-2011, 01:17 PM
The upgrades you are referring to would be lights of orion, Super dino mode, swat mode, legend warrior mode and jungle master mode. Which were used in Gingaman, Abaranger, Dekaranger and Gekiranger. Since Shinkenger has a super mode (the white and gold jackets), Genta created the Inomaru case for them. I would see no problem with the samurai rangers having the same thing. Just outside of the Samurai megazord cockpit. And their spin sword attacks would be upgraded as well.
Thats upgrades to the rangers always give to them much more power to fight the Villans forces well if Shinkenger have the Super mode(The White and Gold Jackets) and i as really interesthing if the rangers have theres Super Mode all Together or in Diferent episodes like happens in Shinkenger but i dont have any problem use the Inomaru too the Samurai rangers can use Mega Mode inside of Samurai Megazord and the Super Mode outisde of Megazord when they are in Battle will likeLighrs of Orion,Super Dino Mode,SWAT Mode,Legend Warrior Mode and Jungle Master Mode and i really hope PRS have the Battlyzer as well.
FieryRed
03-08-2011, 02:04 PM
I have a feeling that the Super/Hyper mode (aka the White and Gold Jackets) will be done differently in PR Samurai. Maybe the Super mode will become that Battlizer mode we saw in the toyfare awhile ago.
Thrax
03-08-2011, 02:19 PM
I have that felling too because i think maybe comes first the Super/Hyper mode and Next the Battlyzer results much better that way.
Samurai Pink
03-08-2011, 02:45 PM
The rangers would indeed use the super/hyper mode (all five rangers) The battilzer would be just for Jayden.
For a breif instant it looked like we were going to get an real un-morphed fighting scene...but alas...no such luck...I mean we have a cast (most of which have some martial arts background), and we NEVER see them using that...I miss Rita's Putties...I miss Foot Soldiers in general (the Moogers are non-existent)...always Morphing seems like a cop out...all that training we see the Rangers doing at their home base is worthless, because as soon as you get all spandexed you don't need any type of power, because the suits essentially turn you up to 11...
Good point. I was meaning to bring that up. The fights this season have been extremely lame. I feel like it's just a weapons display show every time the Rangers morph. And don't get me wrong, I like seeing each Ranger have a personalized, individual attack. But let's see some actual fighting. That's what got me hooked on Power Rangers when I was 4 years old.
And people do keep saying "Oh, they picked these inexperienced actors for their athleticism". Well, what's the point of trading in decent acting for athleticism if the most athletic thing we're getting from these guys is chasing after an ice cream truck?
afaris83
03-08-2011, 03:35 PM
It's possible that they're saving it up for later - perhaps to create a more desperate situation, where the Rangers are forced to fight unmorphed. Also, there is a reason behind doing something like this: While having athletic (and even martial arts) backgrounds, the actors may not necessarily be able to do stage-fighting, which is a slightly different skill. Given the brief pre-filming period, the actors would likely be training for this whilst filming the early episodes. Sure, they could get stunt doubles to do the fighting. But then, why even bother?
Digifiend
03-08-2011, 03:47 PM
The rangers would indeed use the super/hyper mode (all five rangers) The battilzer would be just for Jayden.You're right. I imagine that both Super and Hyper mode will appear (both can be used by all the rangers, but in Shinkenger, only red, green, and gold used Hyper, and gold only uses Super in Goseiger VS), and the battlizer will appear later, perhaps at the same time as Bull Zord (it seems to be an upgrade on Mega Mode, and thus would be used both in battle and in the zord cockpits - Super and Hyper wouldn't be used in the zords).
Fenix84
03-08-2011, 05:53 PM
After last week's episode, I considered not even bothering to give numerical ratings for Samurai episodes anymore. I had given "Deal With a Nighlock" and "Sticks and Stones" generous ratings of 7/10, which by my standards are good. Episodes that had the same kind of bad acting, dialogue, and plotting that have plagued this season. It dawned on me that I have zero expectations for this season, and that my standards for what constitutes "good" PR have slipped. I'm barely even thinking about this season now. Basically I commit 22 minutes per week to watching the actual episode, write up my review, and that's it. And when I review these Samurai episodes, I'm doing it with lowered standards that accept that this season has no pretensions of writing above the elementary school level. If episodes like "Sticks and Stones" are 7/10 for me now...then would ANY episode going forward ever rate as significantly worse? Enough to give me a reason to even bother rating episodes anymore? Then came "Fish Out of Water" to show me that yes, the show can be worse.
"Fish Out of Water" wasn't horrible, in that it didn't really attempt to do much and then fail at it. Same as with all the other Samurai episodes. The plots are so basic, so barely there, that there's almost nothing they can screw up. Therefore all of the episode's numerous faults (again I'm pointing at the acting and dialogue) don't really bother me as much as they should. But my problem with this episode was that it wasn't really that fun. I just sat in front of the screen and didn't really feel anything either way.
If Samurai is going to be bad, then IMO it should cheerfully embrace that cheesy badness. Show the Rangers expressing righteous moral outrage at the "unforgiveable" crime of lying to a child, or gasping in shock over weaksauce insults like "you're boring." And while they do that, also show the Rangers bonding and being a likable (if unsubtle, unrealistic, and corny) group of friends. That is how I can find some more enjoyment in a season like this. When Samurai has tried to be serious business, all the cheesy writing and bad acting is magnified, and the show is unwatchable. It's why I absolutely detested the premiere, and why this episode (which, don't get me wrong, wasn't nearly as bad as the premiere) didn't do anything for me.
The opening scene with the Rangers just hanging out together was nice. Scenes like that tend to be the best parts of this season, because at least we get to see the Rangers as (one or two-dimensional) people rather than just some guys in suits throwing out bad puns. I liked the way Mike was used in this scene and throughout the episode, as the guy willing to kid about Kevin and Jayden's excessive discipline and selflessness. Mia's bad cooking showed up again, it seems like a running gag now. I liked how Kevin immediately consuming his cereal to avoid her food, and how Mike mocked him for his lack of "discipline."
The acting when Kevin was struggling to fish out the Swordfish Zord was BAD. As I said before, this show falls flat when it tries to be serious. Also, he suddenly showed physical strain from using his "symbol power," until he collapsed. Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to happen if a character uses his powers too much. But my problem with it was that the symbol powers were never explained, and we were never shown that they were THIS exhausting. Not explaining how things work or why they're the way they are has been a huge problem with this season.
Once again, Bulk and Spike were segregated into their own irrelevant and disconnected scene. Five episodes in and they've yet to even meet the Rangers. And I'm really hating Spike now. The character doesn't even seem human, just someone's badly exaggerated impression of Skull. Bulk also seemed regressed to me. The character was never smart but over the years he has acted like a "leader," coming up with plans and making the decisions. What was he doing in this episode? Sitting there oblivious, actually talking to himself as he pondered the difficult question of whether to shape sand into a samurai, or make a sand castle with a moat. What?
Kevin meets a fisherman, who was the most pointless guest character I've seen in a while. He did nothing for the plot, and he didn't impart any sort of wisdom or moral onto Kevin. He basically just stood behind him while he went right back to fishing.
Jayden once again showed himself to be a completely selfless hero. And Ji once again showed himself to be a completely useless mentor. Seriously, does this guy ever put his foot down and make the decisions? Just like in "Day Off," Ji stands idly by while Jayden defies advice, at risk to his personal safety.
So some scary looking new mystery villain shows up and watches the battle. Could be an interesting development, though I'm sure anybody who has seen Shinkenger has already seen everything there is to this guy. The Rangers kill the monster in a flurry of bad puns. And oh yeah, Kevin believes in himself or something.
Awful acting and dialogue (as always), along with almost no plot, no real character development, and too little character interaction and fun. This was an empty episode. 5/10.
Huzzah
03-08-2011, 06:50 PM
It's possible that they're saving it up for later - perhaps to create a more desperate situation, where the Rangers are forced to fight unmorphed. Also, there is a reason behind doing something like this: While having athletic (and even martial arts) backgrounds, the actors may not necessarily be able to do stage-fighting, which is a slightly different skill. Given the brief pre-filming period, the actors would likely be training for this whilst filming the early episodes. Sure, they could get stunt doubles to do the fighting. But then, why even bother?
Who said they would have to be stage fighting? Their trained martial artists who I'm sure have sparred on more than one occasion. As far as the waiting for later, that notion is as bad as "saving the best for last." If you don't bring your A-Game to the forefront, you may never make it to the "last."
DarkBlaze
03-08-2011, 06:54 PM
Woah, whoever said they were all trained martial artists?
Alex- Yes, he has experience in weaponry and martial arts. Apparently, years of experience.
Najee- Little to none
Hector- Freerunning/parkour, gymnastics, cheerleading, skateboarding, and breakdancing.
Erika- Martial arts experience (don't know how much)
Brittany- I believe only cheerleading
Huzzah
03-08-2011, 07:19 PM
The cast all claimed to have some background in martial arts and dancing...I mean David Yost and Amy Jo Johnson were gymnasts...and they were right in the thick of things during their fights. Even if Alex, Hector and Erika are the only ones with anything remotely resembling training...that should lend some creedence to potential un-morphed fights. I'm not expecting JYB, ASJ or JDF style fights...I mean let them show some of those skills they possess.
I mean parkour is exciting to watch, why not let Hector break lose...as it stands these characters are about as exciting as paint drying...
Fenix84
03-08-2011, 10:01 PM
I noticed the lack of unmorphed fighting as well. Also, the kendo stick sparring in "Sticks and Stones" seemed really off.
Thrax
03-08-2011, 10:59 PM
The rangers would indeed use the super/hyper mode (all five rangers) The battilzer would be just for Jayden.
I hope the Super/Hyper Mode comes first an Next the Battllelyzer because that way results much better i hope they dont make like in SPD.
afaris83
03-09-2011, 12:29 AM
Who said they would have to be stage fighting? Their trained martial artists who I'm sure have sparred on more than one occasion. As far as the waiting for later, that notion is as bad as "saving the best for last." If you don't bring your A-Game to the forefront, you may never make it to the "last."
I'm guessing you've not had much experience in both? Most, if not all, scripted shows (least of all action-oriented ones), from Power Rangers to Ong Bak, use stage fighting over unchoreographed sparring. Having had 10+ years in martial arts before first experiencing stage fighting, I can personally say they're quite different. Sparring features practicality over the flashy. Meanwhile, stage fighting focuses on what looks good on camera - including variety of moves, neatness of execution, etc - as well as awareness of the audience/camera(s) location. Incidentally, it's those with experience in more performance-based arts such as parkour and gymnastics who have the head start. Moreover, actual sparring can often lead to injury. Meanwhile, the priority of all shows is the safety of their staff. If a potential action sequence cannot be guaranteed well enough to ensure the safety of the cast and crew, they simply don't do it.
Lastly, at least in TV and movie-land, it's not so much about bringing your 'A-game' but making yourself look good. If you can't do it well, you don't do it at all until you've improved.
Tommy Lawson
03-09-2011, 07:06 AM
Who said they would have to be stage fighting? Their trained martial artists who I'm sure have sparred on more than one occasion. As far as the waiting for later, that notion is as bad as "saving the best for last." If you don't bring your A-Game to the forefront, you may never make it to the "last."
I'm guessing you've not had much experience in both? Most, if not all, scripted shows (least of all action-oriented ones), from Power Rangers to Ong Bak, use stage fighting over unchoreographed sparring. Having had 10+ years in martial arts before first experiencing stage fighting, I can personally say they're quite different. Sparring features practicality over the flashy. Meanwhile, stage fighting focuses on what looks good on camera - including variety of moves, neatness of execution, etc - as well as awareness of the audience/camera(s) location. Incidentally, it's those with experience in more performance-based arts such as parkour and gymnastics who have the head start. Moreover, actual sparring can often lead to injury. Meanwhile, the priority of all shows is the safety of their staff. If a potential action sequence cannot be guaranteed well enough to ensure the safety of the cast and crew, they simply don't do it.
Lastly, at least in TV and movie-land, it's not so much about bringing your 'A-game' but making yourself look good. If you can't do it well, you don't do it at all until you've improved.
Afaris83, you are completely correct. In fact, in the history of the Power Rangers TV show itself, there was one major injury to one of the core performers: the late Thuy Trang in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trini_Kwan), performing a stunt. Sure, I can see why fans would want to see more unmorphed fight scenes, but after what happened to Thuy in season 2, is it any wonder the producers do not want to risk injury to the actors if it is avoidable?
Samurai Pink
03-09-2011, 09:23 AM
I hope the Super/Hyper Mode comes first an Next the Battllelyzer because that way results much better i hope they dont make like in SPD.
In shinkenger the rangers did get the super mode shortly after Genta joined the team. So my guess is that the rangers would also get their powerups shortly after the gold samurai ranger debuts. Since both gold rangers did create the inomaru and disc. The battilizer would probably be with the footage with the fateful war, if not it could the Hyper mode of Jayden in that. SPD's/Dekarangers was different, they had to train to earn theirs, SWAT mode that is.
Thrax
03-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Well i just referer the fact in SPD they debut the Battlelyzer in SPD and Next show up the SWAT Mode and that make with the Battlyzer of SPD dont show up many times in the Show wuth makes the Batllelyzer of SPD little pointless in the Show.
MMPRfan90
03-10-2011, 01:38 AM
Afaris83, you are completely correct. In fact, in the history of the Power Rangers TV show itself, there was one major injury to one of the core performers: the late Thuy Trang in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trini_Kwan), performing a stunt. Sure, I can see why fans would want to see more unmorphed fight scenes, but after what happened to Thuy in season 2, is it any wonder the producers do not want to risk injury to the actors if it is avoidable?Thuy hurt her leg at one of the live shows. I heard there were some stunt injuries in Turbo/Space era.
I was thinking about the lack of lengthy, detailed unmorphed fights (then again we are only 5 episodes in) and I remember back in the original Saban era they kinda cut down on them when they brought them back in Turbo. Turbo had them once in a blue moon as did Space and then they were few and far between from Lost Galaxy to Wild Force. So was this reasoning because the show was union? If so wouldn't this current bunch be doing more stunts seeing as the show is non union now? Certain Disney seasons did a lot of unmorphed fights and they were non union seasons as well.
Thrax
03-10-2011, 04:58 AM
I was thinking about the lack of lengthy, detailed unmorphed fights (then again we are only 5 episodes in) and I remember back in the original Saban era they kinda cut down on them when they brought them back in Turbo. Turbo had them once in a blue moon as did Space and then they were few and far between from Lost Galaxy to Wild Force. So was this reasoning because the show was union? If so wouldn't this current bunch be doing more stunts seeing as the show is non union now? Certain Disney seasons did a lot of unmorphed fights and they were non union seasons as well.
I think see unmorphed fights in the Show are pretty cool and always good to see that because we see much of Moprhed fights in the Show like in RPM have really much unmmorphed battles between the Rangers and the Foot soldiers
Stormy
03-10-2011, 06:53 PM
I thought the episode was good. The actor's lines at the end were pretty cheezy, but I really enjoyed Bulk and Spike's comedy scene! I thought it was funny.
Thrax
03-11-2011, 01:29 AM
Emily and Mia are pretty hot in the Beach !!!
Captain Platypus
03-23-2011, 01:06 PM
Why is it bad breath? Why can't it be poison? The effect doesn't match the attack. It makes the rangers look incompetent
The dialogue is uncomfortable and stilted. It just highlights how little work went into these scripts
Lonewolf92
04-30-2011, 11:07 PM
This episode was just sub-par in my opinion, it did give the impression that it was half-assed but I can't say I loathed this episode. This was a Kevin episode who is currently fighting with Mike as my least favorite Samurai Ranger so I guess I shouldn't have expected better. It would have been nice to actually look at Kevin's character and why he's so determined. Did his father push him as a swimmer? Who knows?! At least with Emily in Stick & Stones they actually bothered to explore her as a character, her insecurities why she is the way she is. Doesn't happen with Kevin, the flashback with his dad in the swimming pool could have easily been cut out and it wouldn't have made a difference. Also why I've learned to tune out the puns this episode really bothered me, was it necessary for the MOTD to make a pun both times he died? Monsters making bad pun is standard in Power Rangers but at least previous writers were smart enough to not make then give bad puns as they're DYING. I give it a C-
AndyUK
06-03-2011, 04:38 AM
This was alright, entertaining enough. The plot of the Rangers being poisoned and Kevin looking for the Swordfish zord to save them was interesting but I didn't feel we learnt much more about who Kevin is. We learnt that he's determined but that is about it, it was nowhere near as good as the character development in the previous weeks episode. I liked the introduction of Deker aswell but the constant puns from the monster did get ever so slightly annoying. 7/10.