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O.92
05-11-2011, 09:03 PM
Power Rangers Samurai
Episode 13: The Blue And The Gold
May 14, 2011

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Do not ask about full episodes in this thread. The episode is in the Samurai Encode Thread. (http://www.rangercrew.com/forum/showthread.php?18705-Power-Rangers-Samurai-Encodes-Thread)


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Fury Diamond
05-14-2011, 09:01 AM
Here's my live post during the episode:

Antonio introduces the Claw Zord

Electronic Symbol Power - NICE!

Kevin is not a fan of Antonio

Dayu finds Deker and talks about their past.

Antonio stalks Kevin with his new Samurai Cam

Octoroo - The brains behind Master Xandred

Master Xandred finally acts like a boss

Dayu and Deker's flashback scene - interesting.

Unmorphed fight...brief but still cool.

8:01 - enough waiting! Kevin must be very punctual.

Blue and Gold insta-morph!

Nice usage of the Samurai instrumental music during the fight

Spike and Sammy reunite!

shielded117
05-14-2011, 09:08 AM
And for my live post:

-The more I watch, the more I'm convinced that PRS takes place in New Zealand, and that the Rangers moved there, except for Jayden and Antonio who were trained to lose their Kiwi Accents.
- Mentor seems real enthused to have Antonio now
- Whoever said that it would be "Electronic Symbol Power", great call.
- Kevin is a real butt wipe - And I think he has a superiority complex of Jocks being greater than Nerds
- I like how they're incorporating Rita's theme as what Dayu is playing on her shamisen
- Trail of Tears Express? I'm expecting backlash from the Native American community...
- So Deker has been washed up on the shores of the Sanzu River ever since his confrontation with Xandred?
- Well, Bulk and Spike are somewhat involved, so far.
- Octoroo's face just really pisses me off...
- Puns aren't too bad, just need less dialogue during fights.
- Ok, make up your mind... either Octoroo's mouth moves or it doesn't.
- Not a bad second round
- I liked Octoroo's line about Antberry getting his butt kickec by Red Ranger
- Zord fight was pretty good
- Wait... so do they have secret identities, or not? Why couldn't they just morph and return the toys?
- Ok, so overall, Bulk and Spike's scenes were almost worthless. At least they weren't pointless.

Overall, I liked it. I rated it good.

YellowAccel
05-14-2011, 09:22 AM
Tie between ok and good so ok + lol

+:

-Octoroo is awesome in this episode. For once a villain do something.
-I still love Antonio. I like the camera idea and the scene Kevin/Antonio in the forest.
-I like the fight scene
-Deker & Dayu's realtion is interisting

-:

-I found octoroo's plan stupid. Why Only Child? It's not only children who fullfill the SanzuRiver. The idea is good but some details are Odd. Anf why he stole Spike's mascot in this case?
-Wow Kevin prove another time that he is bi-polar. He smile and one second after he is angry against Antonio. Moreover he don't give any explication. If he really think he isn't a Samurai why he want Antonio in the team?. It seems he's just served him when he needed him and now that Antonio kick Nighlok's *** he may continue to despise him.In the latest episodes he changes his mind 5 times at least.
-Since when Xandred think Octoroo is an idiot?
-Octoroo's new suit is just awful!

Overdrive 92 your pop quizz is hilarious!

Digifiend
05-14-2011, 09:24 AM
- Whoever said that it would be "Electronic Symbol Power", great call.Well wasn't Genta's power called Electronic Mojikara? Since regular Mojikara is called Symbol Power, Electronic Symbol Power is a direct translation. Not at all surprising.

mmpr grove
05-14-2011, 09:25 AM
They are trying to force and remake the Tommy/Jason friendship/rivalry with Kevin and Antonio. Speaking of Antonio why the hell, do they have him dressing like Trent? Actually he looks like he could be Trent only 5-10 years younger.

Digifiend
05-14-2011, 09:26 AM
AntoniA? Has he had a sex change? :x:

President Ranger
05-14-2011, 09:31 AM
Another good episode. The whole toy storyline was kind of stupid but everything else was pretty good, especially Antonio stalking Kevin. For whatever reason the acting seemed much better today. The bulk and spike scenes were simple but good. It was also good that they started building back up again on the Deker thing. Overall, 4/5.

mmpr grove
05-14-2011, 09:32 AM
^^^oppps...nope this isn't doctor who

Fury Diamond
05-14-2011, 09:32 AM
Antberry is voiced by Barnie Duncan

Barracuda
05-14-2011, 09:34 AM
This is the best episode for Kevin and Antonio towards character development. This was an awesome episode but the general plot about destroying toys was terrible.

YellowAccel
05-14-2011, 09:35 AM
Antberry is voiced by Barnie Duncan

Cool info.

terrierlee
05-14-2011, 09:44 AM
Okay Overdrive, I'm ready to answer your quiz!

Hi! My name is Ter!

1. B.
2. D.
3. 1 -Take a shot. 2 -Take another shot. 3 -Hand script in. 4 -There is no four, they don't really write the script.

For the episode itself... How the hell did the Rangers know which toy belonged to who? But at least this episode tied into Day Off, when Sam was first won at the fair/carnival. But jeez Bulk, you're not even talking anymore. All we get now is Spike laughing.

Deker/Dayu is apparently canon now. Um.

SQUIDFACE WHY DO YOU HAVE A MOUTH YOU ONLY USED IT IN THAT ONE SCENE WE SAW A CLIP FOR. Fail, Samurai.

Razor
05-14-2011, 09:50 AM
I will post my review a little later.

shielded117
05-14-2011, 12:41 PM
Well wasn't Genta's power called Electronic Mojikara? Since regular Mojikara is called Symbol Power, Electronic Symbol Power is a direct translation. Not at all surprising.

I actually didn't know that as I haven't seen Shinkenger. I guess I had been basing it off of his kanji - light

Oh, and the rest of my review is up now.

Jacen Solo
05-14-2011, 12:47 PM
I still contend that Octoroo's gonna become a pretty dangerous foe.

I was hoping to see the Lobster zord in action, but I guess they're saving that. Not too sure how I feel about the name Clawzord.

The toy return would have been the perfect opportunity for Bulk and Spike to meet the Rangers!

OujaStrike
05-14-2011, 12:54 PM
not a fan of this episode some good spots but not very good

rangercrazy
05-14-2011, 01:42 PM
when is the ep encode gunna be put on

terrierlee
05-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Never if people bring it up.

It'll be up eventually.

Ravie
05-14-2011, 02:33 PM
Aw, ok, first of all major disappointment that they didn't allow Antonio to have created the Clawzord. THEY CHANGE THE WEIRDEST THINGS!

Cameras were a good change.

Ok...so why are Bulk and Spike sleeping on the floor in the garage and not in the house connected to the garage? Weird.

Toys are real let down from teenage girls, I'll tell ya that XD but definately more kid friendly.

"Come out, come out wherever you are!" So...they come out.

"The Red Ranger's gonna fry your bootay," So much confidence in his minions.

"Dragin Splash?" laaaame

Meh. it wasn't terrible, some things are getting better. Mia is still a blank space (don't think I didn't see my description of her was stolen for the quiz :-P) Emily is kinda useless unless the episode is about her. Actually, unless they're on focus the other Rangers are all kinda just there. It's in this netherworld between poor and OK. I don't know which one to chose.

Though I am curious to see what kind of direction they're going in for Dayu and Deker.

SpideyTerry
05-14-2011, 02:54 PM
Some random comments:

-I liked Octoroo showing some initiative. Not the most evil plan, for sure, but I like when an underling embarks on a plan without seeking approval first.
-That close-up of Octoroo with his mouth moving seemed really odd and out of place.
-Antonio is definitely a fun character. I like a Ranger that can be fun-loving, but still contribute unique ideas.
-The main story? "Two practical opposites - one strict and the other a goofball - thrown together and one learns to accept the other." Eh, it's nothing new, but it can be good for character moments. Still, it seemed too predictable. I also thought Kevin was being too unreasonable. Yeah, Antonio is more of atypical than the others, but this is his third episode. He's right when he says he's proved himself by now. I think it might've worked better if Kevin was just being a jerk for the sake of it - perhaps out of jealousy that Antonio progressed very well without formal training and/or had a far more normal life.
-By the way, am I the only one that thinks it was an odd choice for Kevin to be so serious about being a Ranger? Not that he ever took it for granted, but Jayden always seemed far more serious about it than Kevin. If the guy who had been training his entire life can be brought around to support Antonio, what's Kevin's beef?
-Points for Kevin knowing all along that Antonio had been spying on him. It was worth a laugh.
-Bulk and Spike again seem wasted, but I liked their reactions to Sammy being taken and then returned. It was a missed opportunity, though, for them to not encounter the Rangers when Sammy was returned.
-Yeah, how did the Rangers know where to return all the toys, anyway?
-Decker back after a brief absence. Some okay stuff, but it still feels more like foreshadowing. I want this plot kicked into gear already.
-I actually liked that they didn't use the Clawzord even though they were talking about it early on. It was a nice change from "we're suddenly talking about this item now for no other reason than so we can set-up using it in fifteen minutes" seen on other shows.
-Barnie Duncan did a good job voicing Antberry.

Overall, okay. Nothing great, but nothing too bad, either.

rangergod
05-14-2011, 02:55 PM
Aw, ok, first of all major disappointment that they didn't allow Antonio to have created the Clawzord. THEY CHANGE THE WEIRDEST THINGS!

Cameras were a good change.

Ok...so why are Bulk and Spike sleeping on the floor in the garage and not in the house connected to the garage? Weird.

Toys are real let down from teenage girls, I'll tell ya that XD but definately more kid friendly.

"Come out, come out wherever you are!" So...they come out.

"The Red Ranger's gonna fry your bootay," So much confidence in his minions.

"Dragin Splash?" laaaame

Meh. it wasn't terrible, some things are getting better. Mia is still a blank space (don't think I didn't see my description of her was stolen for the quiz :-P) Emily is kinda useless unless the episode is about her. Actually, unless they're on focus the other Rangers are all kinda just there. It's in this netherworld between poor and OK. I don't know which one to chose.

Though I am curious to see what kind of direction they're going in for Dayu and Deker.

I'm glad they change it because in Shinkenger Genta creating that ebi origami makes no sense to me.

Fenix84
05-14-2011, 03:12 PM
"The Blue and the Gold" is another mediocre Samurai episode. This one does a few things right, but screws up just as much.

The episode starts with some bad Kiwi child actors getting their toys stolen by the Nighloks. Yet another weak evil scheme.

The Rangers are looking at yet another miniaturized Zord, which Antonio says he's repairing with his text messaged symbol power. How do you text this power? Previously, we had seen the Rangers struggling to write their symbols out, and "Fish Out of Water" implies that casting powerful symbols takes a physical toll on them. It would help if the basics of the symbol powers had ever been established. Because the whole thing is just so vague, and they're just making things up as they go along. If Antonio can just text message his symbols, then why shouldn't the rest of them? But this concept seems so radical and offensive to Kevin that he calls Antonio a "computer nerd" to his face and storms off acting more stern and condescending than even he had ever been. Way to make the Blue Ranger more likeable there.

The other Rangers talk to Antonio, and Mike tells him that the only way to impress Kevin is to eat, breathe, and sleep the Samurai lifestyle. So Antonio gets the bright idea to...plant spy cams all over the Shiba house to record Kevin, like a freaking stalker? Stop right there. WHY is Antonio doing this? The problem is not himself, or even how the rest of the team sees him. The problem is Kevin acting like a jerk. Why didn't the other Samurai Rangers, or Jayden, stand up for Antonio before and tell Kevin that he was out of line? I'd suggest that that's what Ji should've done, but we've already established that Ji is completely useless. So instead of holding his head high and telling Kevin to chill out, the entire episode is written around Antonio having to earn Kevin's respect. The whole thing is poorly handled.

Dayu finds Deker's unconcious body, washed up on the shores of the Sanzou River after his confrontation with Xandred way back in "Jayden's Challenge." Wait, WHAT? I hadn't even realized that Deker had even been badly injured. I checked "Jayden's Challenge" again, and he just swims away from the battle. Maybe he ran into some strong currents or something...who knows. It just really strikes me as weird that a character can remain injured or unconcious for THREE episodes. But really, this was probably the best part of the entire episode. Dayu is the best villain, and one of the more interesting parts of Samurai. I know, that's not saying much. But she's the only character who hasn't been embarassed by terrible and childish writing or acting yet. She remains cold and depressed, with references to a past tragedy. Look at that, a character with actual personality, with things about her that warrant further exploration. Her implied past love with Deker (which he has forgotten), and her need to hide it from Xandred, is potentially an interesting story. MUCH more interesting than Deker's own one-note storyline. "Blah blah blah Uramasa blab blah blah duel the Red Ranger."

So Antonio stalks, I mean follows and observes Kevin on his daily run. And Kevin makes it clear that he knows Antonio is doing it. But he's surprisingly cool about it. Until a few moments later, when he snaps at Antonio about how being a Samurai isn't all about fun and games, even as the two of them are sneaking around looking for suspected Nighloks. They run into Octoroo, who gets out of the ship for once. Octoroo clearly labels himself as the brains of the evil operation, and even takes some shots at the Rangers himself. It's his best appearance to date. The actual evil plot was pretty dumb though. Not only did the Nighloks resort to something as dumb as stealing toys, but they could only destroy the toys with a special axe? I assume that the axe must have had magical properties, but they never state that out in the open. Also, the delaying mechanism that the story relies on (that the axe had been "dulled" by the monster's slime, however that works) was pretty ridiculous.

So Antonio and Kevin fight, and get slimed by the monster and beat up. Antonio injures his arm and has to use his bandana as a sling. The two of them talk out their differences, and the dialogue is just atrocious. It doesn't come across the least bit natural, and is completely lacking in subtlety. They get into another fight and Antonio just rips off his sling like his supposed arm injury is no big deal at all. This isn't the first time that PR has totally dropped an injury within the course of a single episode, but it's always stupid whenever this happens. The other Rangers show up, and Octoroo coldly leaves the monster to its fate. I liked that, it's good when characters get to show who they are. I also liked how the monster's slime turned out to be flammable, after Jayden unleashed his fire on it. Relatively hardcore for PR.

The Rangers anonymously deliver the toys back to the kids they were stolen from. Don't ask me how the heck they knew who the owners were.

This episode did well in fleshing out Dayu and Octoroo, who have far surpassed their boring master Xandred in terms of characterization. Really, the villains saved this episode. The whole thing between Antonio and Kevin was just badly written and badly acted. I give "The Blue and the Gold" a 5/10.

Fenix84
05-14-2011, 03:35 PM
Saw this comment posted on Rangerboard:


Also, Jayden and the others show up on the scene while Kevin and Antonio are getting their asses handed to them and Jayden is like, "*****, please." and calmly wastes away the Nighlok. Seriously, our sixth ranger and the blue ranger got their asses handed to them and Jayden comes along as the real badass? I mean, I respect Jayden a lot for that, but even as Octoroo ran off, he said, "Time to sneak through a gap, the red ranger is going to fry your bootay" or something along those lines. That just makes me wonder where the focus really was.

I hadn't remembered that line, but the emphasis on the Red Ranger really does seem off. I actually think that Jayden has been a lot more tolerable over the last couple of episodes, but the show's never far from sinking back into Mary Sue territory.

FangJoker
05-14-2011, 04:13 PM
Saw this comment posted on Rangerboard:



I hadn't remembered that line, but the emphasis on the Red Ranger really does seem off. I actually think that Jayden has been a lot more tolerable over the last couple of episodes, but the show's never far from sinking back into Mary Sue territory.

That scene made a lot more sense in Shinkenger. The monster was covered in oil, not slime... Shitari (Octoroo) said something along the lines of "ShinkenRed is a bad match for you," because his mojikara is that of fire. fire + oil = not good for monster.

Ravie
05-14-2011, 04:19 PM
I'm glad they change it because in Shinkenger Genta creating that ebi origami makes no sense to me.

It actually does make better sense in Shinkenger. Genta is supposedly this gifted, natural, raw-talent mojikara user. Given the fact that that the origami are revealed later to be manmade, it made perfect sense that Genta was able to create Ebi Origami.

But, you are right in a way. Antonio isn't said to have the same sort of talent. He's just able to use "electronic symbol power", so I suppose in that sense, not having him have created the Clawzord isthe better way to go. I wasn't giving the creative team enough credit. My bad.

DarkBlaze
05-14-2011, 05:01 PM
Pretty average episode. A definite step down compared to the previous two eps, but it had good moments. The plot had an old school vibe to it, which I found pretty entertaining. I enjoyed the chemistry between Antonio and Kevin, and the acting was on key all around (even for Najee). I'd say the highlights of the episode were the Bulk and Spike scenes, Kevin gaining a true understanding of Antonio, the unmorphed fight, Octoroo stepping up to do more than Xandred has done, and the Dayu/Deker scene. Also, I really enjoyed the BGM during the MZ fight. Everything else was just there...

Also, I'm not sure I like where they're going with the Deker/Dayu thing. It feels like its going to be a road of what will be easily predicted, and I was hoping they were going to stick closer to Dayu's backstory. However, if this is a chance to see something original then I'm open to the idea for now.

O.92
05-14-2011, 05:08 PM
Saw the episode when it came on at 12, just didn't care enough to write up a review. I'm starting to lose my ability to give a damn about this series. Won't be long now until I "accidentally" start missing the episode premieres. But judging by the activity of this thread, and RangerBoard's, I come away with the feeling I'm not the only one. I'm just more surprised I managed to make it this far!

--I still can't get over what a fancy, creative episode title we have here. "The Blue And The Gold". How intense.

--Good teamwork. While Kevin chews out Antonio for the dumbest of reasons, the rest of the team leaves Antonio out to dry. "You need to impress Kevin yourself, don't look at us!", even though Emily and Mia both bring up reasons as to why Antonio IS a samurai, and right to his face no less! Way to resolve tension and a dispute between two teammates.

--How is this Nighlok able to creep around town, breaking into houses stealing tons of toys? Do the Gap Sensors have a day off or something?

--Maybe one of the Nighloks should just kill off Bulk & Spike. It might be for the best of this series, and Bulk's legacy. They're just pitifully useless now. A Nighlok who steals toys breaks into their garage to get Sam the Panda. How did the Nighlok know there was a toy in there? And if he needed exactly 30 toys, you're telling me that was one of the only toys he could get his hands on? I guess we should just be thankful that the writers were competent enough to bring Sam the Panda back.

--Xandred sighting at 3:42!

--So Deker's been washed up on shore this entire time? OK, whatever. And furthermore, Dayu says "You don't remember me?". Uh-oh! Here we go! Ring the bell! Who is Dayu!? Shayla? Cole's mother? Toxica? Alyssa even though Jessica Rey's been busy with her personal life? Oh boy!

--When Mia said "Ho Ho Ho" at the end of the episode, it brought me to a rude awakening: maybe it's better she remains a blank wall. We should be careful what we ask for...

Overall, an episode probably in Samurai's upper half, which doesn't say much. Better than last week's trash for sure. And for those of you like President Ranger out there keeping a diary of my weekly opinions, let me be a little cautious about my wording. Today's episode was mediocre. Yeah, I think that fits. So I guess I now wait for the "Ha! See! You do like this season!" response that should be only a matter of minutes away? I suppose so.


That scene made a lot more sense in Shinkenger.

I think this phrase can be attributed to the entire season.

nekollx
05-14-2011, 06:28 PM
"Ha! See! You do like this season!"

A ok episode, i too wonder how the hell they know where each toy goes, but the plot i can kind of see, destroy a treasured item, cause pain. But how exactly does destroying a item without the owners knowing about it cause sadness?

I'm on the fence about the claw zord, so Antonio creates withthe help of Octozord his own ranger suit but creating a new zord is beyond him? if he is repairing it are their other lost origam he can fix?

DarkBlaze
05-14-2011, 07:00 PM
I loled at Bulk's reaction when seeing Sam was gone... "STOP IT!"

Black Warrior
05-14-2011, 07:23 PM
Yeah, how did the rangers know where to take each toy?
The red ranger is going to fry yoru boootay! Really.... Really? Oh, Octoro you and your wierd puppet mouth....
As for the red ranger coming in and tottally owning (where blue and gold couldn't), it was because his power is fire and the nylocks slime was flamable so it caught fire and and went back on him. Guess Octoro knew that before he left why he said his bootay comment and was like oh snap red ranger is here im out....
Yeah, the claw zord was damaged and put away by Gi who asked antonio to fix it, wonder if that will be the explanation for the other zords that are coming....

Did Kevin really have to grab Antonio's hurt arm during their little talk and apparently morhping healed said hurt arm....

Oh yeah and Mia..."Ho, Ho, Ho..." Sigh

DarkBlaze
05-14-2011, 07:29 PM
Yeah, how did the rangers know where to take each toy?Symbol Power?

TimeKaiser
05-14-2011, 09:10 PM
This episode... I just... I can't get over the fact that it is such a heavily bastardized version of one of my favorite Shinkenger episodes. This one should never have been done in the first place for the following reasons:

- Great, make Antonio less awesome by removing the whole "Gold creates new origami" thing and replace it with "Gold only repairs the damn thing"...
- Antonio shouldn't be trying to be more like Kevin because he's the most annoying blue ranger we've ever had. It should be the other way around, so Kevin can learn how to have a personality.
- In Shinkenger, people were about to be killed at the well. We unfortunately had villians about to destroy toys. Pathetic.

nekollx
05-14-2011, 09:20 PM
This episode... I just... I can't get over the fact that it is such a heavily bastardized version of one of my favorite Shinkenger episodes. This one should never have been done in the first place for the following reasons:

- Great, make Antonio less awesome by removing the whole "Gold creates new origami" thing and replace it with "Gold only repairs the damn thing"...
- Antonio shouldn't be trying to be more like Kevin because he's the most annoying blue ranger we've ever had. It should be the other way around, so Kevin can learn how to have a personality.
- In Shinkenger, people were about to be killed at the well. We unfortunately had villians about to destroy toys. Pathetic.

Ooo Ah Oh, and what is up with Octaroo's vocal tick, Oooo Ah Oh.

Interestingly Xandred calls him Squid Face, so aparently the writers do know what a Squid is!

DarkBlaze
05-14-2011, 09:22 PM
That plot would have NEVER made its way into Power Rangers, which should have been obvious from the get-go.

O.92
05-14-2011, 09:29 PM
That plot would have NEVER made its way into Power Rangers, which should have been obvious from the get-go.

Yeah, but...killing people in comparison to chopping plastic, fluffy toys in half with a magical axe is about as far apart on the spectrum as it gets.

nekollx
05-14-2011, 09:29 PM
That plot would have NEVER made its way into Power Rangers, which should have been obvious from the get-go.

Whoever said that the Rangers are actually operating out of New Zeland no Cali i agree, those kid actors are so bad it's the only thing that makes sense, but hey on the plus side it means Cali has a year free of monsters.

You know after my last post i invisioned a meeting of Alpha and Octaroo

Ai Yi Yi
Ooo Ah Oh
Ai Yi Yi
Ooo Ah Oh
Ai Yi Yi
Ooo Ah Oh
*octaroo blasts alpha with his staff*

Ai...Yi....Yiiiiiii

*triumpantly* Ooo Ah Oh


Personally I can't wait for when they adapt the episode where Ji charges into battle, kicking mooger *** to hand deliver the Bull Bazoka to Jayden, it going to be so out of character for Mentor Ji!

Maybe with the new writers when Samurai ends Ji will be cursed by Xandred and we'll see his face partially scarred and warped and it will leave with a line "I am neither human nor Nylock now...i'm...Trubian...."

Huzzah
05-14-2011, 10:00 PM
Methinks I'm already dreading this episode...

Samurai Pink
05-14-2011, 11:09 PM
I wasn't able to see it cause I went to an Asian festival then a cook out. So I had to record it. But I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Hopefully I will tomorrow. But I did see a clip on nick.com where Kevin and Antonio were first slimed by the nighlok.

Thrax
05-15-2011, 03:01 AM
The Opening scene it as cool.
In the Opening credits they change the credits card of Antonio and is not there the Sentai clip now looks like the others.
The plot of using the sorrow of the kids toys for make the Sanzu river flow the earth it as cool
Antonio present the Clawzord to the Rangers
Kevin follow much the Samurai Tradicions
Dayu find Deker and help him and want to know if remember of Anything from the Past
Master Xandred suspect something is wrong with Dayu
Antonio spys Kevin.
Flash Morphs always cool
Antonio and Kevin worked together really cool
Octoroo have mouth it as cool to see him like this and even strikes the rangers.
Rangers fells something wrong about Kevin
Gold and Blue worked together as rangers
Jayden strikes the Nightlok and the use there Saber Powers to strike him
The Megazord battle is cool
Rangers give the Toys back to the Children

The Plot is as cool have the Sorrow and Sadness fro mthe Children to make the Sanzu River flow the Planet i think in the Next episode they will combine Clawzord with Octozord.

Awesome episode !!!

Tsurugi_Matsuda
05-15-2011, 05:16 AM
--How is this Nighlok able to creep around town, breaking into houses stealing tons of toys? Do the Gap Sensors have a day off or something?

--So Deker's been washed up on shore this entire time? OK, whatever. And furthermore, Dayu says "You don't remember me?". Uh-oh! Here we go! Ring the bell! Who is Dayu!? Shayla? Cole's mother? Toxica? Alyssa even though Jessica Rey's been busy with her personal life? Oh boy!


First point: Blame the Shinkenger Producers for this! The episode it's made from also has the same problem with the Sukima Sensors having being not activated as well.
Second Point: If you have watched Shinkenger you'll know that Dayuu is also a stray Ayakashi just like Juuzou, and they probably descended into Gedou at the same time for different reasons (approx. 200 years ago), so probably the PR producers may have taken note of their past and tries to make a little entrance about their past and how they descended into half-Nighloks. In Shinkenger, Juuzou's past is connected to a powerful Ayakashi named Akumaro (in which he hasn't made a PRS appearance yet). Dayuu's past might be revealed in PRS where Mia is the centre character (which will be based on Shinkenger Act 25).



As for the red ranger coming in and tottally owning (where blue and gold couldn't), it was because his power is fire and the nylocks slime was flamable so it caught fire and and went back on him. Guess Octoro knew that before he left why he said his bootay comment and was like oh snap red ranger is here im out....
Yeah, the claw zord was damaged and put away by Gi who asked antonio to fix it, wonder if that will be the explanation for the other zords that are coming....


Nighlok slime is flammable?? I don't believe this! Shinkenger's version makes much more logical sense since the liquid that the Ayakashi emits is actually oil, and oil like any other fuel is flammable so using ShinkenRed's 'Kaen no Mai' makes sense.
Another thing I don't get it is that Jayden would even say the wrong name of the spin sword technique he used in his entrance. (What's wrong with you, Jayden??) Obviously he is using the 'Lightning Fury' move but he says the technique as 'Blazing Strike'. See the first episode if you don't believe me! The Shinkenger footage dialogue is still correct for this one. (Takeru did say 'Raiden no Mai' when he used that lightning in that scene)

As for the zords thing, that leaves with two left yet to appear, T-Rex and Bison.

Black Warrior
05-15-2011, 06:11 AM
I agree Tsurigi, the slime was oil in shinkenger and it did make more sense of why the red ranger could own him. Lol, people asked earlier in the thread guess I should of made the point of what it was in shinkenger. If PR going to take whole plots then they need to take the whole plot so things make more sense.

SilverPirate
05-15-2011, 02:14 PM
Immediate reaction:

-Those kids did not look or sound upset.
-Kevin, you are a complete (censored). Antonio saved your butt once and helped take down two monsters, and this is how you show gratitude?
-I'm even more annoyed with the opening sequence. They're cramming too much into the very beginning and now with Antonio, it makes it harder to read the cast names. (Forgot to mention from last episode).
-What is the purpose of the yellow fluffballs?! And again, Octoroo is the one doing all the work and proving that Xandred, Dayu, and Deker are a waste of space. Speaking of Decker, he certainly is...quite absent lately for a main antagonist.
-Wow, Antonio... So instead of simply asking about the Samurai lifestyle, you start spying on Kevin. Great way to earn his trust. But then again, nobody in this show knows a thing about the Samurai lifestyle, except perhaps Bulk.
-Tyzonn trying to imitate Will was more entertaining than this.
-Deker is back...and unconscious? How? Why? Not that I care, but still.
-Dayu wonders why Deker saved him? Deker's answer will always end with "Uramasa," so there's no real point in wondering.
-Kevin's reading a book on Samurai life? Antonio, ditch the stalker stuff and read that book. You might learn something.
-Barnie Duncan! Please make me laugh again! I loved you in Mystic Force!
-Again, monster steals toy and nobody cries. What's the point?
-Admittedly Kevin revealing that he knew Antonio was watching him was handled well and got a chuckle out of me. Points for that.
-Tossing exactly thirty toys into a well causes sorrow? Yeah. And if I pluck exactly thirty hairs from my head, I'll be bald.
-Ugly Octoroo suit is ugly.
-You need a Sanzu Axe...to chop up easily breakable plastic toys...
-Fight scene was okay. Not much to say about it.
-"My sword, Uramasa, is calling to me." Told you.
-Are Antonio and Kevin trying to play "Who can speak softer than the other"?
-Oh, NOW you thank Antonio for helping you. Well, at least the conversation afterward is handled pretty well.
-Injuries sure heal quickly this season...
-Blazing Strike produces lightning now?
-I think Antonio needs an accent coach.
-So your brilliant idea is to tie your weapons to your hands, and yet your enemy doesn't use his slime this time?
-"The Red Ranger's gonna fry your BOOTAY!" Does Octoroo really lack confidence in his own allies?
-Beautiful 2.5 seconds of Red Ranger helmet in my face. Did it mean anything?
-The monster falls down the well...and explodes?
-SQUID, NOT OCTOPUS!
-Stealing toys from kids is low for a gang of Power Rangers villains? Man, Turbo villains were more threatening than this.
-Emily and Mia never cease to make me cringe. ;)
-So, the Rangers now possess the magical power to know exactly where the toys came from?

Ugh, terrible episode. Not much redemption quality. 2/10 from me.

ForeverBlue
05-15-2011, 02:49 PM
This was a very good episode. I give it a 7.5/10

O.92
05-15-2011, 03:10 PM
First point: Blame the Shinkenger Producers for this! The episode it's made from also has the same problem with the Sukima Sensors having being not activated as well.

No thanks. I'm watching Power Rangers Samurai, not Shinkenger. Shinkenger may have done the same thing, but Samurai was stupid enough to bring it over. Samurai put it on my TV, Samurai gets blamed.

Ravie
05-15-2011, 03:42 PM
No thanks. I'm watching Power Rangers Samurai, not Shinkenger. Shinkenger may have done the same thing, but Samurai was stupid enough to bring it over. Samurai put it on my TV, Samurai gets blamed.

I have to agree with that. It's one thing when an episode has misteps because of it's creative team, if you're feeling charitable, "at least they tried". If they merely do a bad translation and make the plot hitches worse, then yeah, their fault.

Digifiend
05-15-2011, 04:42 PM
That plot would have NEVER made its way into Power Rangers, which should have been obvious from the get-go.Yeah... this one was on the possible skipped Shinkenger episodes list to be honest.

terrierlee
05-15-2011, 05:51 PM
This episode really could have been skipped. They would have introduced Ebi---I mean the Clawzord later or something. And Kevin appeared to be okay with Antonio is the previous episode, but since these characters change personalities every week...

And Tsurugi, if we wanted to watch Shinkenger, we would. But we're watching Samurai. Just because they use the same storylines, villains, suits, mecha and props, doesn't mean they are the same show.

Ravie
05-15-2011, 06:45 PM
They had to show Antonio continuing to try to fit into the team. Because he hadn't proven himself twice over or anything.

They're really turning Kevin into a prick character when Ryu wasn't really that much of a prick.

After more than a day, there are parts of this episode that I just don't get. I even flip-flopped on the Clawzord. it still doesn't make sense to me that it's pre-existing.

shielded117
05-15-2011, 07:09 PM
The way I see it, the production crew has had the luxury of having the whole story of Shinkenger, and the luxury of being able to see the mistakes Shinkenger made and correct them. If you're going to hack Shinkenger, do your best with it. Make it better than Shinkenger. As it is, they're not even doing that.

Zeno503
05-15-2011, 07:50 PM
It was a pretty good episode in my humble opinion. This episode, although a little rough around the edges plot wise, felt like a whole episode.
-I wonder what those kids have in their resume to get the part here. "We like to pick our noses and make arm farts" GREAT YOU'RE PERFECT!
-I like how Antonio played Ninja to learn to be a Samurai. Way to go dude..
-Kevin is what we call an a**. There was seriously no justification to Kevin acting that way to Antonio. So the guy is more innovative, sue him.
-Instead of going to talk to Antonio, Mike and the girls should've talked to Kevin and told him to shove it.
-Children's tears will rise the Sanzu River to fill the well? ..I can buy that I guess. I mean, with children's tears comes crying...oh the loud, snot-nosed, wailing cries of children.
-Ok, American Octoroo suit what are you doing with that mouth?
-Dayu has a past with Deker? If I may pull a M. Night here, WHAT A TWIST!
-I..still don't wish for Deker to be Cole. It just doesn't feel right if it was him.
-Fight scene was pretty good, no complaints.
-Bulk and Spike weren't as random as they were before, they're getting there PRS writers. Just gotta give 'em a weeeee bit more USE.

Still, the episode had a decent plot. Moved along straight with it only to move aside to tease the Deker/Dayu story and for Kevin to be a big butt. I liked seeing Kevin and Antonio meet Octoroo but I wish there was more said to each other besides Oo Ah Ooo. Hopefully they meet Xandred face to face soon now that they've met Dayu and Octoroo. Antberry was ok, not bad. Felt like a good 'ol Power Ranger episode as it should be. They shouldn't try to be so serious cause they fail at it. If they keep it up like this, add some actual drama, the show should get better as it goes on. Maybe...


8/10

Barracuda
05-15-2011, 07:51 PM
Not even close to Shinkenger, Samurai is disappointing so far. In a general point of view, with few exceptions.

Zeno503
05-15-2011, 07:53 PM
You know after my last post i invisioned a meeting of Alpha and Octaroo

Ai Yi Yi
Ooo Ah Oh
Ai Yi Yi
Ooo Ah Oh
Ai Yi Yi
Ooo Ah Oh
*octaroo blasts alpha with his staff*

Ai...Yi....Yiiiiiii

*triumpantly* Ooo Ah Oh


This made my day. Thank you pal.

Huzzah
05-15-2011, 07:57 PM
I think I must say that I'm about to join the ranks of those who have completely given up on this season...there seems to be no redemption at all for anything this season has produced...they just need to get the reruns on ASAP...then I can actually enjoy PR again...

Barracuda
05-15-2011, 07:59 PM
I have the conclusion that s1 of Samurai is horrible. But I still have a little faith for s2.

Huzzah
05-15-2011, 08:00 PM
I have the conclusion that s1 of Samurai is horrible. But I still have a little faith for s2.

Faith is relevant when there seems to be improvement...there has been no improvement...

O.92
05-15-2011, 08:05 PM
Faith is relevant when there seems to be improvement...there has been no improvement...

Ooh Aah Ooh, good point.

But I'm with you on stopping myself from watching the show. Sometimes I feel as if I should just stop watching now, and then catch up on it all at once later. I feel as if it would be more fun that way, rather than going out of my way every Saturday afternoon for another disappointment. I've never stopped watching a season midway through, but this season is bad enough, the opportunity just seems ripe for the picking.

terrierlee
05-15-2011, 08:11 PM
It might be a better idea to watch the rest of the series in bulk.

I mean, maybe then I would remember what the hell happened in the first... what episode number are we on? what happened in this series.

Huzzah
05-15-2011, 08:23 PM
It might be a better idea to watch the rest of the series in bulk.

I mean, maybe then I would remember what the hell happened in the first... what episode number are we on? what happened in this series.

Hehe...you said "bulk" like the wasted character in PRS...

Maybe I can watch it all online later and put everything on mute...so as to writer my own way the story plays out...

Fenix84
05-15-2011, 09:12 PM
Ooh Aah Ooh, good point.

But I'm with you on stopping myself from watching the show. Sometimes I feel as if I should just stop watching now, and then catch up on it all at once later. I feel as if it would be more fun that way, rather than going out of my way every Saturday afternoon for another disappointment. I've never stopped watching a season midway through, but this season is bad enough, the opportunity just seems ripe for the picking.

I do NOT recommend catching up on a bad season marathon style, or even on a compressed schedule such as over the course of a month. I did that with Mystic Force and Overdrive. It nearly crushed my soul. If you watch a bad season one episode per week, at least it's just a half hour commitment, or at most an hour or so if you add in forum discussion. If you don't feel like it, you could even put off the episode for a couple of days. Take your time with bad PR, and it won't devour your mind and spirit.

A better answer is to just not watch this dreck. But we're PR fans. We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.

Ravie
05-15-2011, 09:19 PM
Actually, I can vouch for that. I missed some episodes and I was mentally unable to watch more than three or four at a time. I still have three to go and haven't had the gumption to get down to watching them. I do not recommend tackling PRS marathon style.

terrierlee
05-15-2011, 09:24 PM
Maybe we can pan it out. We'll watch three episodes a week.

Huzzah
05-15-2011, 11:04 PM
PRS the Abridged Series?

Digifiend
05-16-2011, 04:10 AM
Funny, I don't remember the octozord's cockpit having a wheel with faces in it.
http://i51.tinypic.com/30kf0o4.pnglol! That's Clawzord's cockpit! Whoops! :lol:

Spider-Phoenix
05-16-2011, 04:33 AM
A better answer is to just not watch this dreck. But we're PR fans. We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.

Wow, don't go that far. We all were made to be happy, PR fans or not....

Anyway, so far PRS has been watchable to me. Not something that would make me pretty danm excited, but it's tolerable IMHO.

Also the whole editing and visual quality has been pretty good so far.

Thrax
05-16-2011, 05:27 AM
well we have another moments like that of the Gold Ranger cockpit !!!

Jayden's magically swapping disc
http://i54.tinypic.com/rj194j.png

http://i52.tinypic.com/op3hbl.png

http://i56.tinypic.com/eb39kk.png


Wow, don't go that far. We all were made to be happy, PR fans or not....

Anyway, so far PRS has been watchable to me. Not something that would make me pretty danm excited, but it's tolerable IMHO.

Also the whole editing and visual quality has been pretty good so far.

The Visual Quality has really much good thats for shore in PR Samurai !!!

Mr. CD
05-16-2011, 08:37 AM
Wouldn't it have made more sense for the Nighloks to kidnapped the toys AND the kids (And Bulk & Spike) and then destroy the toys infront of kids (And B&S, you know, remove the '&' and those initials were never more appropriate.) thus giving them something to cry about?

Thrax
05-16-2011, 08:44 AM
Wouldn't it have made more sense for the Nighloks to kidnapped the toys AND the kids (And Bulk & Spike) and then destroy the toys infront of kids (And B&S, you know, remove the '&' and those initials were never more appropriate.) thus giving them something to cry about?

That kind a plan could work take the toys and the kids for them watch the precious toys be destroyed by a Nightlok and the Sadness and Sorrow from the Tears of the Kids raise up the Waters of the Sanzu River to Flow the Earth.

Samurai Pink
05-16-2011, 08:48 AM
lol! That's Clawzord's cockpit! Whoops! :lol:

That's for this weeks episode. I was wondering about that. Genta had that in his megazord as well. I knew that they would add the wheel for the Clawzord.

I really did like the close up shot of the red ranger. If you notice in his visor, you see a white disc. Now where did that come from? Cause he had his red disc earlier.

Ryan Steele
05-16-2011, 09:02 AM
For second time in the row, I vote awesome. Antonio somehow has made everybody open up and finally we learn about their characters. I loved the backround story we saw with Deker and the badgirl(can't recall her name,lol). The show keeps on improving, finally it was about time

Samurai Pink
05-16-2011, 09:05 AM
I voted this episode awesome as well. I really enjoyed blue and gold teaming up against the nighlok.

Thrax
05-16-2011, 09:19 AM
For second time in the row, I vote awesome. Antonio somehow has made everybody open up and finally we learn about their characters. I loved the backround story we saw with Deker and the badgirl(can't recall her name,lol). The show keeps on improving, finally it was about time

It cool we learn more about the Characters and it as cool see Deker and Dayu scene there is somethign about Deker and Dayu past but Deker dont remember of nothing.

terrierlee
05-16-2011, 09:46 AM
Well. That explains one thing. But seriously, how could they confuse the cockpits?

Thrax
05-16-2011, 09:53 AM
Well. That explains one thing. But seriously, how could they confuse the cockpits?

well that one really interesthing to know !!!

Mr. CD
05-16-2011, 10:24 AM
Well. That explains one thing. But seriously, how could they confuse the cockpits?

My guess is they are doing the same thing here they did with Lord Zedd in Season 2. That is, they filmed a couple of minutes of cockpit footage, then pick in choose later which one to use.

Thrax
05-16-2011, 10:31 AM
My guess is they are doing the same thing here they did with Lord Zedd in Season 2. That is, they filmed a couple of minutes of cockpit footage, then pick in choose later which one to use.

That could by possible they do like that with Samurai !!

FieryRed
05-16-2011, 11:55 AM
I think Octoroo's plan is very lame; I think Shinkenger's version is way better by comparison.

KalishPlosion
05-16-2011, 11:56 AM
Before I begin, I believe I have a quiz to turn in...


1) B. A tough choice, as B and C can indeed describe him. Why not B and not C? When Mentor steals morphers, he's not sneaky about it at all.
2) D. In my opinion, only A is labelled correctly to begin with... Emily's not naive enough in that picture. I'll just go with the one that doesn't match the correct name to the face.
3) 1,4,2,3,5 in that order. No explanation needed.

Now, on to our episode...

I do NOT want to know what that stuff hanging off the plants are...

Wow... Hyper-Keanu wooden acting by our accented child actors.

Is Mentor... Impressed?

Kevin is a b-b-b-buzzkill! And bipolar apparently, given the last few episodes.

Just keep up that "huh?" personality, Emily... Oblivious as always.

Steven's still trying find an accent.

The last scene before the opening should have been the first after, IMHO.

The yellow balls don't translate well to America, sadly.

Octoroo is most certainly the big bad... there is no arguing it.

Most. obvious. cameras. EVER.

Oh hey, Deker! Totally forgot he was in the series these last few episodes (before the flaming, that was sarcasm, folks).

Cmon, Antonio! You don't want to be MORE like Kevin.

Bulk and Spike scene... not entirely pointless. Actually, it really was kinda funny.

Uhh... how did Kevin figure out Antonio was watching him?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! What was that Amercian Octoroo footage! That's... just awful looking.

Antonio wins the Captain Obvious badge of the week!

MY EYES... *sob*... they BURN! His mouth can't even move in time correctly!

Damn... that scene between Dayu and Deker was actually pretty good!

Xandred has officially found a job... Dayu's pimp.

Ahh, Najee... your poor acting never gets old! (That's a lie)

I swear, Kevin and Antonio are having different conversations.

Obligatory and forced "take my hand" scene... check.

Kill it with fire!

Antonio/Genta's body expression there did not match up with his voice-over at all...

Damn again... Octoroo totally pussied out there.

I counted that... the shot randomly stayed on that closeup of Jayden's helmet for 2 and a half seconds... Well past the "awkwardly uncomfortable" time range.

Awkwardness in the zord sequence too... The editing of this episode is really crappy.

He's gonna slime them? This is a kids show for goodness sake!

I want a "Hooray! Boooo!" foam hand!

Yeah, Jayden, because 6 teens who transform into technicolor spandex clad superheroes in front of everyone don't draw attention to themselves.

"Ho, ho, ho..." Oh gosh, Erika.

What was that face on Bulk at the end? Not what I'd want to end an episode on.

Overall... this episode is very polarizing. Most of the Ranger scenes were unappealing and not acted very well. However, almost all of the non-Ranger scenes were great, being funny or intriguing. I give it a good, but American Octoroo is going to haunt my nightmares for a while.

PR Lover
05-16-2011, 12:39 PM
ALright.

Clawzord intorduction-good
Antonio watching Kevin via spycams,and Jayden knowing Kevins schedule by heart- Shippers...we got a 3 way triangle going on here

Jayden:
Your Green Ranger morhped infront of his two friends
You guys morph infront of people (episode three)
Your hot yet simple minded Yellow Ranger used the term "Samurai Ranger brides"
You used your freakin Samuraizer to make a kid a paper airplane.

I think you guys have brought ENOUGH attention to yourselves.

Stealling kids toys? Take away video games, computers, tv, phones, ipods...and THEN see who is going to cry.

All in all, good episode. Octaroo is definetly more or a big villain than Xandred. Kevin finally warmed up to Antonio.
Hope next episode is just as good, or possibly better. I'm liking the "gooder" episodes now that Antonio finally made his mark as a good Ranger, (and actor)

FieryRed
05-16-2011, 01:32 PM
The way I see it, the production crew has had the luxury of having the whole story of Shinkenger, and the luxury of being able to see the mistakes Shinkenger made and correct them. If you're going to hack Shinkenger, do your best with it. Make it better than Shinkenger. As it is, they're not even doing that.

I actually think it makes more sense for the sensors not to have gone off in Shinkenger since they were just kidnapping, and theoretically they could capture a victim and then port via their dimensional door to the other side, then bring the victim to the well later. In PR Samurai, the Nightloc had to sneak into a house to steal a toy, and that should've taken much longer time by comparison. There's no reason why none of the sensors went off while they were stealing those 30 toys.

Thrax
05-16-2011, 01:53 PM
I actually think it makes more sense for the sensors not to have gone off in Shinkenger since they were just kidnapping, and theoretically they could capture a victim and then port via their dimensional door to the other side, then bring the victim to the well later. In PR Samurai, the Nightloc had to sneak into a house to steal a toy, and that should've taken much longer time by comparison. There's no reason why none of the sensors went off while they were stealing those 30 toys.

I think the sensors just activated when the Nightloks are attack the city but if they dont are attack the City possible they dont notace the Nightlok presence in the city, well 30 Toys have to been stolen and taken for they have the Sorrow of the Kids for the Sanzu River Grow up and if that it as a door way for Neitherword.

All Nightloks can leave the Neitherword except Master Xandred maybe even the Neitherworld have the Power to contain Master Xandred Power.

Fenix84
05-16-2011, 03:36 PM
Wow, don't go that far. We all were made to be happy, PR fans or not....

LOL, it was a joke and a geeky Star Wars reference. Although I meant it when I asked why we're even bothering to watch Samurai.


Wouldn't it have made more sense for the Nighloks to kidnapped the toys AND the kids (And Bulk & Spike) and then destroy the toys infront of kids (And B&S, you know, remove the '&' and those initials were never more appropriate.) thus giving them something to cry about?

You know what would really create sadness, and get the Sanzu river to overflow? Destroying things and killing people. The Nighloks can be powered by the same methods that Dai Shi's army, and the Phantom Beasts used. While Dai Shi was one of the most worthless villains in PR history, he looks like a badass genius next to Xandred, who is basically an overmedicated, do-nothing junkie. Dai Shi didn't try to create fear through childish methods like sending his monsters into kids' closets to spook them at night. He attacked the city. Destroying the city would create WAY more sadness than secretly breaking a bunch of toys. But I guess the Samurai writers thought that might be too intense for the four year old audience that they're aiming for.

Fenix84
05-16-2011, 03:40 PM
All Nightloks can leave the Neitherword except Master Xandred maybe even the Neitherworld have the Power to contain Master Xandred Power.

Yet Deker insisted that his unique half-human form is what allows him to leave the Netherworld. The whole thing is just so vague and badly handled. PR never seems to be able to properly write situations where the villains are shut out and have to fight to gain access to the normal world. Mystic Force had this same exact problem. Despite all their talk about opening the gates of the underworld, the MF villains were still getting into this world every episode. Even RPM basically stopped bothering to explain how Venjix's army breached Corinth's shield every single episode.

FieryRed
05-16-2011, 04:42 PM
Yet Deker insisted that his unique half-human form is what allows him to leave the Netherworld. The whole thing is just so vague and badly handled. PR never seems to be able to properly write situations where the villains are shut out and have to fight to gain access to the normal world. Mystic Force had this same exact problem. Despite all their talk about opening the gates of the underworld, the MF villains were still getting into this world every episode. Even RPM basically stopped bothering to explain how Venjix's army breached Corinth's shield every single episode.

It is explained in Shinkenger that Gedoushu can come to the human world, but because they need the Sanzu River to substain themselves they cannot stay too long or else they will "dry up". Doukoku's plan to overflow the Sanzu River will mean the Gedoushu can stay at the human world indefinitely without this fear.

rangergod
05-16-2011, 04:49 PM
LOL, it was a joke and a geeky Star Wars reference. Although I meant it when I asked why we're even bothering to watch Samurai.



You know what would really create sadness, and get the Sanzu river to overflow? Destroying things and killing people. The Nighloks can be powered by the same methods that Dai Shi's army, and the Phantom Beasts used. While Dai Shi was one of the most worthless villains in PR history, he looks like a badass genius next to Xandred, who is basically an overmedicated, do-nothing junkie. Dai Shi didn't try to create fear through childish methods like sending his monsters into kids' closets to spook them at night. He attacked the city. Destroying the city would create WAY more sadness than secretly breaking a bunch of toys. But I guess the Samurai writers thought that might be too intense for the four year old audience that they're aiming for.

In all of years of PR since when monsters ever kill people.

Fenix84
05-16-2011, 06:47 PM
They try, it's just that it's kept nicely offscreen. They attack the city and blow buildings up. That's what Dai Shi tried to do. If the Samurai writers did Jungle Fury, Dai Shi's monsters would be playing boogeyman in children's bed rooms, telling scary stories to give people bad dreams, or other idiotic and ridiculously harmless plots.

Never mind. Gekiranger didn't do that so the current writers wouldn't either. My mistake.

Barracuda
05-16-2011, 09:30 PM
Why couldn't Jayden fix the Claw Zord? Ji had it all this time.

Lonewolf92
05-16-2011, 09:36 PM
In all of years of PR since when monsters ever kill people.

You would have thought there would have at least been human casualties in Countdown but thats Power Rangers to you. You gotta admire Power Rangers villains they a send their monsters to grown in abandon districts because they don't want to kill any future slaves.

Thrax
05-16-2011, 11:03 PM
Yet Deker insisted that his unique half-human form is what allows him to leave the Netherworld. The whole thing is just so vague and badly handled. PR never seems to be able to properly write situations where the villains are shut out and have to fight to gain access to the normal world. Mystic Force had this same exact problem. Despite all their talk about opening the gates of the underworld, the MF villains were still getting into this world every episode. Even RPM basically stopped bothering to explain how Venjix's army breached Corinth's shield every single episode.

If the Half-state of Deker allows to him leaves the Neitherworld everything he wants that make him special at someway because if the others Nightloks could by half-humans too or even could possible because the others Generals Nightloks are more weak that Master Xandred that can allow them leave the Neitherworld.

In MF we have the state of Morticon he can leave the Underworld without the Gates of the Door are Open because he is much Powerfull to leave the Underworld, the Ten Terros can leave the Underworld but they have the Rules of Darkness for brings back The Master but the Terros can go to the Survace worrd because the Stole allow to them go.

In RPM could possible the Shield have a few little weak spots and the Attacks bots could enter for there or maybe the Attack bots could enter for there places when Ziggy tells to Dillon when Dillon wants to leave Corinth to attack the city from inside.

WF The humans are not allowed to enter in the Nexus like Jindrax and Toxica tell to the Rangers and just the Orgs could enter inside of the Nexus that it as interesthing to see could the Nexus have such kind of force inside could make the humans dont handle the atmosphere inside of the Nexus but that it as interesthing because MasterOrg(Dr.Adler) it as human but possible when he eats the seeds that could make him enter inside of the Nexus because he becames a Org.

Digifiend
05-17-2011, 01:24 AM
Why couldn't Jayden fix the Claw Zord? Ji had it all this time.Because it's probably the most complicated zord in their arsenal (it has three modes, and can combine with Octozord). Antonio is a technology whiz, he'll find the job easier than Jayden would by a mile.

Barracuda
05-17-2011, 09:01 AM
How long did they have the Claw Zord for? Did they find it or already had it?

Thrax
05-17-2011, 11:22 AM
You know what would really create sadness, and get the Sanzu river to overflow? Destroying things and killing people. The Nighloks can be powered by the same methods that Dai Shi's army, and the Phantom Beasts used. While Dai Shi was one of the most worthless villains in PR history, he looks like a badass genius next to Xandred, who is basically an overmedicated, do-nothing junkie. Dai Shi didn't try to create fear through childish methods like sending his monsters into kids' closets to spook them at night. He attacked the city. Destroying the city would create WAY more sadness than secretly breaking a bunch of toys. But I guess the Samurai writers thought that might be too intense for the four year old audience that they're aiming for.

Dai Shi use really great ways to have fear to have more power and achieve is goal and have trainning to have the Zokato and becames the Phantom Beast King well Dai Shi have great Power to have fear to make is armys destroyed the City and the World.

Master Xandred passes much time drunks but even in Skinkenger that the character of Doukoku's(Master Xandred) and when he drinks to much becames to much angry and dont mess with him well in PR Samurai we see him to much times in the floor and became sick because of the Drinks he drinks if him destroyed the city and destroy much things could created more sadness and sorrow for the Sanzu River flow up the Earth.

Its good to see in this PR Samurai episode Isaac Florentine is back to Power Rangers !!!

Huzzah
05-17-2011, 07:17 PM
So I finally decided to watch the episode. Kevin sucks...there is absolutely nothing interesting about his character. He's a royal douche who thinks he's better than everyone...and he had the audacity to call Antonio a Computer Nerd (in an insulting manner). There is no redeeming quality to his character. Even if the next episode he flip flops and fully supports Antonio (like he did in last week's episode)...I actually like him less than I like Ji.

Also...Uramasa...

Just freakin get along with the storyline...its getting old...but then again hoping for a mediocre episode this season is getting old...I gave up on hoping for anything good...I just want to see mediocre...they can't even do that...

Ravie
05-17-2011, 07:22 PM
So I finally decided to watch the episode. Kevin sucks...there is absolutely nothing interesting about his character. He's a royal douche who thinks he's better than everyone...and he had the audacity to call Antonio a Computer Nerd (in an insulting manner). There is no redeeming quality to his character. Even if the next episode he flip flops and fully supports Antonio (like he did in last week's episode)...I actually like him less than I like Ji.

Also...Uramasa...

Just freakin get along with the storyline...its getting old...but then again hoping for a mediocre episode this season is getting old...I gave up on hoping for anything good...I just want to see mediocre...they can't even do that...

we're only 1/4 the way through. Can you handle it?

Huzzah
05-17-2011, 07:31 PM
we're only 1/4 the way through. Can you handle it?

Each week I think that I can less and less...

PR Lover
05-17-2011, 07:42 PM
Each week I think that I can less and less...

Do what I do.
Say that a four year old can do better than this.
Or that a Monkey can do better than this

Huzzah
05-17-2011, 10:56 PM
Hehe, monkeys. I am a full supporter of monkeys. I even supported Bulk and Skull as monkeys...though it was a little on the ridiculous side...still

nekollx
05-18-2011, 01:53 AM
I find the show is more enjoyable after i hit my head against the walk for a few minutles. Power Rangers samuri butter with blain dlamage.

TimeKaiser
05-18-2011, 03:01 AM
So I finally decided to watch the episode. Kevin sucks...there is absolutely nothing interesting about his character. He's a royal douche who thinks he's better than everyone...and he had the audacity to call Antonio a Computer Nerd (in an insulting manner). There is no redeeming quality to his character. Even if the next episode he flip flops and fully supports Antonio (like he did in last week's episode)...I actually like him less than I like Ji.

Also...Uramasa...

Just freakin get along with the storyline...its getting old...but then again hoping for a mediocre episode this season is getting old...I gave up on hoping for anything good...I just want to see mediocre...they can't even do that...

I hate to admit it but things looks just as grim to me as well. I have the feeling the actors are good people, but I swear if I was in the same universe as this series right now I would literally help the villains win under the one condition that I be the one to take out Kevin.

Samurai Pink
05-18-2011, 08:34 AM
How long did they have the Claw Zord for? Did they find it or already had it?

Not sure how long they had it, but I'm sure that Antonio would know more about it than the other rangers.

The clawzord has four modes Digifiend. Shinkengold's wheel has four faces (north, south, east and west). This zord would make it's debut in this weeks episode. Combining with the octozord creating gold's megazord. I can see why the writers for ep 14 had to make it different than act 19, cause the spirits taken (act 19) the humans and Kotoha would die. Ep 14, the humans and Emily would be in deep sleep. The whole dying thing would be too frightening for little kids. But in both the episode and act the rangers did the same plan to get the spirits back.

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 08:46 AM
I hate to admit it but things looks just as grim to me as well. I have the feeling the actors are good people, but I swear if I was in the same universe as this series right now I would literally help the villains win under the one condition that I be the one to take out Kevin.

Yes but if I also joined them you would have to agree to let me help you take out Kevin. But I'll let you finish the job after I've beaten him to a bloody pulp

Super Jeff
05-18-2011, 08:57 AM
Not a b ad episode, but the kevin, emily and mia's acting were just horrible. Jayden is getting slightly better. Antonio, despite not being the greatest actor on the show, really makes up for it by being really goofy and spontanious.

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 09:11 AM
I have to disagree. Antonio IS the best actor on this show. Sad, but true.

O.92
05-18-2011, 09:30 AM
I have to disagree. Antonio IS the best actor on this show. Sad, but true.

Nah, I still think Paul Schrier and Hector are both better than him. Antonio's actor really showed his weaknesses in last episode when he had to act serious and pissed after Ji denied his chance to join the team. His acting there just felt....awkward. But he's definitely in the upper half of the cast, which doesn't say much, but still. Alex is also a pretty good actor as well.

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 09:32 AM
Well when 3 of your main 5 rangers can't act to save their lives and only two of them are okay. And thats okay by Power Ranger standards which has a lower bar.

Barracuda
05-18-2011, 10:21 AM
I think Hector is the best actor then its Steven then Alex.

Digifiend
05-18-2011, 06:24 PM
Well when 3 of your main 5 rangers can't act to save their lives and only two of them are okay. And thats okay by Power Ranger standards which has a lower bar.Fair point. The low number of actors who have successful acting careers after Power Rangers shows that it has never really had the best acting talent. Samurai is no different to previous seasons in that respect.

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 06:28 PM
Fair point. The low number of actors who have successful acting careers after Power Rangers shows that it has never really had the best acting talent. Samurai is no different to previous seasons in that respect.

But Samurai's acting is bad even with the low bar for Power Rangers. I mean in the real world Amy Jo Johnson's acting is okay. Worthy of WB/CW shows and a few tv movies. Her acting is Oscar Worthy by Power Ranger standards.

Alpha 5
05-18-2011, 06:46 PM
I just plain out don't like Samurai, there i said it lol and it feels good to get it off my chest

Digifiend
05-18-2011, 06:54 PM
But Samurai's acting is bad even with the low bar for Power Rangers. I mean in the real world Amy Jo Johnson's acting is okay. Worthy of WB/CW shows and a few tv movies. Her acting is Oscar Worthy by Power Ranger standards.Amy is one of those I'd consider to be successful. In fact, she's the show's biggest name (and yet she's still only C-list).

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 07:39 PM
Amy is one of those I'd consider to be successful. In fact, she's the show's biggest name (and yet she's still only C-list).

You think looking like Jennifer Garner and Neve Campbell would have helped her get more roles

Ravie
05-18-2011, 07:42 PM
You think looking like Jennifer Garner and Neve Campbell would have helped her get more roles

That's probably why she got the roles she did get.

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 07:45 PM
I doubt thats it. She is a decent actress. Jennifer Garner didn't really become A-lister until after Johnson got a few post-Power Ranger roles including on the show Felicity. Funny enough J.J Abrams was the series creator for both Felicity and Alias, the show that made Garner famous.

Ravie
05-18-2011, 08:08 PM
I doubt thats it. She is a decent actress. Jennifer Garner didn't really become A-lister until after Johnson got a few post-Power Ranger roles including on the show Felicity. Funny enough J.J Abrams was the series creator for both Felicity and Alias, the show that made Garner famous.

She's ok. I'm not the hugest Amy Jo fan (as in not really) but she is the reason I watched that tv movie about the anorexic gymnast and Suzy Q and tried to watch Felicity...but she wasn't good enough to keep me (Felicity was some of the most godawful garbage ever put on the WB, which is quite known for it's godawful garbage) and I was in the target audience at the time (teenage girl).

Lonewolf92
05-18-2011, 08:12 PM
I like to pretend that the movie where she plays a gymnast with eating disorder was set during Zeo and that was Kim in Florida training for the Pan Globals and her boyfriend was the guy she dumped Tommy for.

Ravie
05-18-2011, 08:25 PM
I like to pretend that the movie where she plays a gymnast with eating disorder was set during Zeo and that was Kim in Florida training for the Pan Globals and her boyfriend was the guy she dumped Tommy for.

Haha, now that is a nice tie-in :D

TimeKaiser
05-18-2011, 08:26 PM
Yes but if I also joined them you would have to agree to let me help you take out Kevin. But I'll let you finish the job after I've beaten him to a bloody pulp

I have no problem with that at all. I love the idea of being the one who finishes it. lol

Tsurugi_Matsuda
05-19-2011, 04:31 AM
No thanks. I'm watching Power Rangers Samurai, not Shinkenger. Shinkenger may have done the same thing, but Samurai was stupid enough to bring it over. Samurai put it on my TV, Samurai gets blamed.

Correction, its 'THEY DID', not 'THEY MAY HAVE DONE', the PR producers actually have the stupidity to copy the whole storyline lock, stock and barrel (only replacing human lives with toys instead) without having to analyse what went wrong with that part. (Probably those who have seen the original footage may have higher expectations for this.) And I am still seething from the fact that they DID a bad translation on that lightning attack. Btw, I am still watching on how Antonio uses his Claw Folding Zord and its Megazord Mode, especially on the presentation where it matters the most because it will decide whether I will drop this season and wait until the second half plays probably late this year/early next year.

AndyUK
06-13-2011, 03:52 PM
Good episode with a bit of an old school feel to it. I've liked the introduction of real injuries in this series, such as and we got a bit more of an insight into Kevin's character. The plot was a little strange, I'm hoping that things like that are explained in the Origin episodes we haven't seen yet but it was alright. Deker and Dayu's past is an interesting subplot and they had a good scene together. 7/10.