Samurai Sentai Shinkenger Discussion

[Thrax]

What did you think of Daigoyo?

Daigoyo as cool and i liked of is relation with Genta.

[Digifiend]

He was funny. Even brought some humour to the mecha fights, like when he got in the way when forming Shinken-Oh and he ended up replacing Shishi Origami.

EDIT: TV Nihon just posted this awesome picture of the untransformed Shinkengers with their personal weapons! Judging by Genta's hair, it was taken after the series finished.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/takkynoko/Tokusatsu/Sentai/20010309.jpg

[Mako]

Ask them where they got it * cause its been out since 2010 when i took it off chinease blog header * and i still really want to know its location , i think it might be the shinkenger tour book but not sure, but mind you i wonder , they posted this ? are they subbing the tour ? this was taken march so yep just after the show ended

[Mr. White]

He was pretty cool. Funny at times too.

[Mr. Pink]

Daigoyo reminds me of a certain annoying mod lol

The heaven fan looks horrible there. It looks like cardboard

[ShinkenW]

I like Daigoyou, he's funny at times...though I don't think he was really necessary, and neither was his giant mecha form, but he did come in handy at times and was a good companion to Genta.

[Ryan Steele]

What did you think of Daigoyo?
He/it was ok

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Daigoyo?


He was interesting and pretty funny lol

[Digifiend]

Ask them where they got it * cause its been out since 2010 when i took it off chinease blog header * and i still really want to know its location , i think it might be the shinkenger tour book but not sure, but mind you i wonder , they posted this ? are they subbing the tour ? this was taken march so yep just after the show endedThey posted it alongside two other past Sentai pics: http://tvnihon.com/node/958 It was on the blog post about Gokaiger 50's release.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Akumaro and the return of Juuzo?

[Thrax]

Akumaro as great i always find more worthy Main Villan that Doukuku and the atmosphere of mystery around of Akumaru make him really awesome villan for this Sentai and is plan of bring hell to Earth as great.

Juuzo returns as cool

[Ryan Steele]

I didn't like Akumaro, he was pretty sneaky guy. Reminded me a lot of Meemy of Magiranger. The return of Juzzo was something expected. In fact I couldn't wait when he would return for his final battle against Takeru

[cypsiman2]

I liked Akumaro, but then again I tend to like the scheming sneaky types. Juuzo's return was expected, but he doesn't really do much until he gets his sword back, not that I can recall anyway.

[Mr. White]

I liked Akumaro. He's probably my second favorite villain in Shinken. Juzo's return was ok, though it was obvious he was going to return.

[YellowAccel]

What did you think of Akumaro and the return of Juuzo?

Juuzo's return was predictable. I think Akumaro was creepy.

[Mr. Pink]

Akumaro was pretty cool, and Juuzo was lame since it was obvious

[ShinkenW]

I like Akumaro, he's one of the few villains I actually like in this season (besides Tayuu & Juuzo), I like his mysteriousness and yes, I think he's rather creepy and sneaky because of his mysteriousness, I think that's what makes him interesting though.

As for Juuzo's return, that was sort of predictable I guess.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Akumaro and the return of Juuzo?


Akumaro almost resembles the general from Gekiranger...he was pretty cool. It was great to see Juuzo back

[Thrax]

Akumaro almost resembles the general from Gekiranger...he was pretty cool. It was great to see Juuzo back

Yh, you notace that too, they really looks kind similars in aspect kind off !!

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?

[YellowAccel]

Ushi Origami and Mougyudaioh are ok. Samuraihaoh is ugly and heavy lol.

[Ryan Steele]

What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?
Ushi Origami was the best mecha of the show by far IMO. I loved it. Remind me a lot of Black's Knight mecha of Gingaman.
Mougydaioh was epic with the gun. Loved it that Takeru had a guttling gun as well. Sauraihaoh was just too many mechas. Seriously why toei does that latelly? It's an ugly thing to have so many mechas all together

[Thrax]

What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?

Ursi Origami is by far one of the Best Mechas in Shinkenger and i really enjoyed is storyarc and is transformation in Mougydaioh as epic in the season.
Samuraihaoh as great and massive i really loved is design and i liked of many mechas together.

[Mr. White]

I liked Ushi. Mougyudaioh was pretty cool. Haoh on the other hand... it was another terrible cluster f*ck.

[Mr. Pink]

I didn't like anything with the bull

[ShinkenW]

I like Ushi origami and the story of its creation, I enjoyed the whole Ushi arc...Mougyudaioh is pretty cool but SamuraiHaOh is just ugly clusterf*ck that wasn't even necessary.

[cypsiman2]

I didn't care for Ushi or his humanoid form, and I really didn't like Samurai Haoh; it was bulky, ungainly, and yellow and pink just got shunted off to the side, not even proper parts of the mech at all.

[Thrax]

Ushi Origami was the best mecha of the show by far IMO. I loved it. Remind me a lot of Black's Knight mecha of Gingaman.
Mougydaioh was epic with the gun. Loved it that Takeru had a guttling gun as well. Sauraihaoh was just too many mechas. Seriously why toei does that latelly? It's an ugly thing to have so many mechas all together

I think Toei does that because they have a few Sentais without Great Combinations of Mechas !!!

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?

Pretty cool and awesome!

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Doukoku coming out of the Sanzu River, Akumaro's plan to bring Hell on earth, and the death of Akumaro?

[Ryan Steele]

Fantastic all of these events. They led to an epic finale

[Mr. Pink]

It was all kind of disappointingly predictable

[YellowAccel]

I don't have a lot of things to say about that. It was predictable for Dokoku but at least he did something else than drinking. I like Akumaro's plan and death.

[Mr. CD]

This is one of those situations where I really hate the whole "Gedoushuus have two live" concept since the episode lost a lot of the dramatiness it had by having Akumaro grow right afterwards and making the Shinkengers look like Juuzo's clean-up crew.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Doukoku coming out of the Sanzu River, Akumaro's plan to bring Hell on earth, and the death of Akumaro?

It was interesting.

[Fury Diamond]

What did you think of the Shinkengers' roll call since it was such a departure from the elaborate ones of the recent seasons before it (e.g. Hurricanger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, and Go-Onger)?

I liked the roll call. The various usage of the roll call throughout the season was a nice touch, especially in the final battle when Takeru got back his title as ShinkenRed.


What did you think of Jii?

Jii was a decent character and mentor, but not a fan of his character. I did enjoy his fight scene.


What did you think of the Opening Theme?

I loved the Opening Theme was rather catchy. The instrumental usage in a few PRS scenes was beautiful.


What did you think of the suits?

I loved the suit designs, especially the helmets. The concept reminds me of the Gekiranger's simple design. I didn't like the Gold Ranger's suit, which is why I'm glad that the PRS designed a beautiful suit for Gold Ranger (Mega Mode).


What did you think of the cast?

This was one of the best casts that I have seen in my limited Sentai exposure. Tori Matsuzaka played a beautiful role as Takeru, who was my favorite character in the show. The female actresses were beautiful and did a great job in their roles. It took me a few episodes to get used to Hiroki and Shogo's acting.



What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?

It's been awhile since I liked a good "zord design". The design of the Shinkenoh is beautiful and reminds me of one of my favorite Megazords (MMPR - Shogun Megazord). Shinkenoh's transformation has an epic conclusion. The finishing attack looks rather weak.


What did you think of Genta/Shinken Gold?

I must admit that I didn't like Genta at first but he grew on me. He is the perfect addition to the comical side of this season. I was never a fan of the Shinken Gold design and mechas.


What did you think of Ika Origami, Ebi Origami, and Daikaioh?

I didn't like the Ika and Ebi origamis. Daikaioh's multi transformation is a nice touch. It would've been nice to see this concept with other mechas for decent number of combinations.


What did you think of Juuzo's and Dayuu's backstories?

I enjoyed both of their back stories. Great additions to the show.


What did you think of the Inromaru, Super Shinkenger, DaikaiShinkenoh, and the "death" of Juuzo?[B]


I didn't like the super basic design of the Inromaru. Inromaru's ability for Super Shinkenger transformation is awesome. The concept of a single Super user is excellent for strategy and sharing purposes. I'm still not a big fan of the "elvis jackets". The DaikaiShinkenoh is a great formation. The finishing attack with the remaining zords is a nice touch.


[B]What did you think of Daigoyo?

The lantern design was nice but the mecha felt more comical than awesome. It did added the humor value to mecha fights, which was "sometimes" needed.


What did you think of Akumaro and the return of Juuzo?

Both of these characters were my favorite villains. Juzo's original fall lacked the epic sense for such a fantastic character. It was good to see him return back to the show.


What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?

Ushi Origami / Mougyudaioh reminds me of Gingaman's "bull" mecha. The mecha and its "Megazord" form was okay...nothing special. The Samuraihaoh is one ugly combination. The formation has potential to be beautiful with the great looking mechas but ends up looking crowded.

[Thrax]

What did you think of Doukoku coming out of the Sanzu River, Akumaro's plan to bring Hell on earth, and the death of Akumaro?

Doukoku as pretty epic he comes out from the Sanzu River and much angry about Akumaru really intentions because he always tolerate Akumaru but inside of the Bounders and in line as loyalty.
Akumaru plan as great i really enjoyed is goal even no one expect is betrayal to Doukuku.
Death of Akumaru as great and is final battle as epic he almost defeated the Shinkenger and is power as great is final scene as epic when he goes down the Final laught when the Shikengers destroy him.

[Mr. Pink]

thanks for your input mr. bossman!

[Mr. White]

Doukoku finally did something! Lol. I liked Akumaro's plan.

[cypsiman2]

I appreciated Doukoku coming out of the river, since he needed that credibility as a threat something serious after spending over thirty or forty episodes being a lazy drunk, not even really directing his own forces or actively calling upon them or stuff like that. Akumaro's plan was neat, and his death scene was suitably epic.

[ShinkenW]

I love Akumaro's plan of bringing hell, that turned out to be his primary agenda to begin with, however he hid it from everyone else very well...until Shitari finally realized his intentions, although by that time it was already too late, Akumaro's plan was already at its final stage.
I think Akumaro's reckless obsession with hell is fascinating...if hell were to be brought forth, not only would the human race be destroyed, but the Gedoushu would also disappear...so one has to wonder just how did Akumaro become so deranged to the point when he would even sacrifice his own race and risk the demise of everything just to have a taste of hell. Not even Doukoku or the other Gedou would go so far as to risk their lives and the lives of their own. This shows that deep down, Akumaro doesn't really care about anything, I don't think he even cared about his own life...at least, he cared just enough to ensure he fulfilled his wish before he dies, because he did say to Shitari that if only he could just have one taste of hell, it would've been enough for him. It just seems his only purpose for living was to experience hell.

The final battle between Akumaro and the Shinkengers was epic I thought...and I think at the end, he did eventually got his wish, because he had his taste of hell upon his demise...it would explain why he seemed rather content when the Shinkengers killed him.

For Doukoku's appearance, I thought that was executed very well, he caught the Shinkengers off-guard and totally unprepared.

[Thrax]

^

Akumaru plan as always of is prime agenda of himself because he never give to Doukoku is true intenctions and Shitari always as been a little disconfort about Akumaru is there in Sanzu River because he recruits Dayu and Juzzo even without Doukoku know about but even in that way Doukoku.
The Obession of Akumaru make him a character of fascination because he dont know where is thinking about if is loyal or disloyal to all and see him sacrifice even is capable to sacrifice all to accomplish is main goal even Doukoku as not go sow far because he jsut want to make the Sanzu River flow the Earth and Akumaru wants to bring hell to earth and ends with everything and he dont really cares much about nothing.

The Final Battle as beyond of Epic because no gear of Shineknger work to defeated a characters but the way as defeated and is final evil Laught as epic.

Doukuko defeated the Shinkengers really easy whe ncomes out from Sanzu River

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Karou, Tanba, the reveal that she's the true Shiken Red, and that Takeru is a shadow?

[YellowAccel]

It was cool to see a female red ranger. Too bad she wasn't in more episodes. I knew Takeru's secret before i watched the show since i saw some spoiler on internet but it was a great idea.

[Mr. CD]

Probably the only competent thing this series ever did. Really, I think the whole kagemusha thing was a cool idea. My only problem with it is that Shinkenger had the nerve to actually try to do something interesting or have something resembling an actual story after pissing around, doing jack-all for a majority of the series. But, that's it.

[Ryan Steele]

This whole secret and how Kaorou reacted to it was simply awesome. It could easily destroy the show but it didn't. My only complain was that Kaorou didn't participate in the final battle. Her master was very annoying, but Kaorou put him in his place each time needed,lol

[Thrax]

What did you think of Karou, Tanba, the reveal that she's the true Shiken Red, and that Takeru is a shadow?

Karou as cool her debut in the Sentai i really liked of her and Tanba as funny but quite annoying.
Find out Takeru as just a Shadow as a great twist in the Season because hejust a decoy for the Villans until Kaoru show up.

[cypsiman2]

I love Kaoru and everything else about the whole "Takeru is a shadow" storyline.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Karou, Tanba, the reveal that she's the true Shiken Red, and that Takeru is a shadow?

It was very interesting!

[Digifiend]

Shame we had to wait for Gokaiger to see the two reds together. Tanba was an annoying jerk, but I liked Kaoru's way of putting him down.... even when leaving in the finale, and he suggested she find a husband, out came the fan, with her saying "Too soon!" She was a serious character but her interaction with Tanba sure raised some laughs.

[Mr. Pink]

If only mako were more like kaoru lol. The reveal was nice after months of fillers

[Mr. White]

Karou and her revealing was pretty cool. Tanba was annoying though. I'm glad Karou would hit him with her fan.

[Digifiend]

In episode 1, Mako arrived in a carriage, causing the others to think she was the red ranger (same thing happened with Mia in PRS). Foreshadowing?

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the return of Dokokou, the deaths of Juuzo and Dayuu, and the finale?

[YellowAccel]

The final was ok. I think it's not as good as the rest of the serie or some others final.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the return of Dokokou, the deaths of Juuzo and Dayuu, and the finale?

The Returns od Doukoku as great for the upcoming of the Final Battle in Shinkenger and well the death of Juzzo and Dayu i think in the case of Juuzo as a great epic battle between the Rivals for there final match but as epic obvius.
Dayu death as kind cool see Doukuku use Dayu to recorer of the injures from the Last Battles.

The Finale as Epic see the Sanzu River comes and the Shinkengers goes in Suicide Mission to Battle the Main Villan and the underground battle and the Mecha battle between Shinkengers vs Douku as epic for shore see him defeated the Massive Mecha formation so easy and even be defeated as great for Shinkenger and as cool see the Shinkengers returns for there normal lives.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the return of Dokokou, the deaths of Juuzo and Dayuu, and the finale?


It was interesting and the finale was good.

[Ryan Steele]

the finale was awesome, I loved it

[cypsiman2]

Juuzo and Dayuu had good death scenes, Dokokou's return was a long time in coming, and the finale was pretty sweet all around.

[ShinkenW]

I really like Kaoru...I thought Takeru being the kagemushima for the true 18th Shiba tono was a very good twist, most people didn't expect it at all, and were genuinely shocked by it...and what's more is that the true Shiba tono turns out to be the first ever female red senshi in Sentai history.
I think a lot of fans were initially worried about what kind of person Kaoru is, I did to...I too was hoping she wouldn't turn out to be this cocky & disrespectful lord, and I'm glad only Tanba turned out to be the irritating arrogant jerk. Tanba is one of the few aspects I dislike about this season...luckily he only appeared in the last 10 eps or so of the season & was absent in Goseiger vs Shinkenger. Though it's always funny to see Kaoru hitting him with the fan & putting him in his place.

As for Tayuu & Juuzo's death...although I liked Juuzo, but I just felt indifferent when he died, I didn't feel anything...although his final duel with Takeru was epic and his eventual demise was rather powerful nonetheless.
Tayuu's death was rather sad but also significant, since her human half was sacrificed into a shield of some sort for Doukoku, which subsequently led to the failure of the sealing character.

Now that the sealing character failed to seal Doukoku, the Shinkengers had to depend on all their strengths to defeat him, the final battle was epic, I thought the way it was executed was very good, how the Shinkengers fought un-henshined with every ounce of their strength left, determined to destroy Doukoku for good.

[Mr. White]

The return of Doukoku was pretty cool. I enjoyed the final battle between Juzo and Takeru, and his death was pretty sweet. The finale was ok. Kinda anti-climatic.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Shinkenger Movie, Shinkenger vs. Go-onger, and Shinkenger Returns?

[Thrax]

The Shinkenger movie as great The Fatefull War as great i always loved the scenario of the Fatefull war and the Debut of a New Power.

Shinkenger vs GO.Onger as beyond of epic the chemestry between the characters and both Sentais teams as great and the battle between the Heroes and Villans are amazing.

Shinkenger returns as cool.

[cypsiman2]

The Shinkenger movie was way too short, just wham bam next scene all the way through.

Shinkenger vs. Go-onger was okay, I don't remember it being anything all that special.

Shinkenger Returns was hilarious.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the Shinkenger Movie, Shinkenger vs. Go-onger, and Shinkenger Returns?

Never seen the Shinkenger movie....I usually never bother to watch the movies....just the team ups I would watch :p

The team up was great. Shinkenger Returns was pretty good too

[Digifiend]

You should watch Fateful War, Jay, it's the debut of Hyper Mode. The footage was used as part of Clash of the Red Rangers in Samurai, but was completely out of context.

[Ryan Steele]

Shinkenger Movie->I found it very good. We saw big parts of it in Samurai's movie. Here it was much much better

Shinkenger vs. Go-onger->It was very good. I liked it because it continued from where Go-onger has stopped. It showed all Go-Onger's worlds. Comparing to that garbage we saw in PRS here all Go-Onger appeared, not only Go-On Red. Same goes for mecha. They even combined all the mechas of Go-Onger/Shinkenger. And of top of that Goseiger appeared too. First time a third team appears in a Vs of two teams. I don't say the movie was awesome because for some Go-onger characters I just don't care, didn't feel something seeing them again. Plus for someone that hasn't watched Go-Onger he will say "what kind of crazy movie is this?". You have to see the show first to understand the philosophy of the movie. I don't doubt they did their best possible out of those two teams for this movie. For someone that loves Go-onger too (I don't), will love this movie and say it was awesome. Well I can't

Shinkenger Returns->For me the best movie of the show. It proved once again how awesome are the actors of it. They can do whatever and be cool always. One of the best specials I've ever seen

[Kaizoku Blue]

Shinkenger movie was OK but nothing special, and a bit too short. Typical of Sentai movies.

Shinkenger vs Go-onger was also OK but nothing special

Shinkenger Returns was funny and I enjoyed it very much

[KyoryuRed]

What did you think of the Shinkenger Movie, Shinkenger vs. Go-onger, and Shinkenger Returns?

Shinkenger Movie- it was pretty good.

Shinkenger Vs. Go-onger- great! too bad not all scenes are copied or used in PR Samurai

Shinkenger Returns- okay.. not a bad movie

[YellowAccel]

What did you think of the Shinkenger Movie, Shinkenger vs. Go-onger, and Shinkenger Returns?

The 3 were awesome. Shinkenger Returns was really different but it was pretty funny and original.

[Mr. CD]

The only thing I liked in the Shinkenger Movie was seeing the Shinkengers dressed as Nanshis, the rest was just boring. Shinken Vs. Go-on, like I said in the SvS v. CTRR thread, I did not like how the movie flanderized Sosuke (Really, why do people say Sosuke was less cartoony? The movie made him MORE cartoony; he never ran around making beeping and honking and car noises in the show), how the Engines' voices were changed for no reason, and especially how even though it picked up where Go-on left off, the Go-ongers themselves were off-screen for most of the movie. And Shinkenger Returns was godawful and stupid. And not even the good kind of stupid. They were trying to make a dumb fun movie, but forgot to include the "fun" part. I'll admit, I did like Kotoha's dream, since it was the only one I thought that was funny. The rest were just terrible.

[Mr. White]

Movie was pretty good. Loved the versus. Returns was ok.

[Thrax]

You should watch Fateful War, Jay, it's the debut of Hyper Mode. The footage was used as part of Clash of the Red Rangers in Samurai, but was completely out of context.

The Fateful War as great the scenario of battle as epic !!!

[Mr. Pink]

Movie was good

Versus needed more non red focus in the various worlds

Returns eh it was ok

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Hyper Mode, the Kyoryumaru, Kyoryu Origami, and Kyoryu Samuraihaoh?

[ForeverBlue]

It was cool

[YellowAccel]

Well Hyper Mode it's just Super Mode in Red and since i don't really like super mode i don't really like hyper mode. The others are ok.

[KyoryuRed]

it was all right.

[cypsiman2]

I didn't like the Kyoryumaru or anything else that came with it.

[Thrax]

What did you think of Hyper Mode, the Kyoryumaru, Kyoryu Origami, and Kyoryu Samuraihaoh?

The Hyper Mode as awesome and Kyoryumaru as cool.
Kyoryu Origami as great and Kyoryu Samuraihaoh a awesome.

[Mr. White]

Hyper Mode was eh. Just a re-colored Super Mode. I liked how the Kyoryumaru was able to stretch around. Kyoryu Origami was pretty cool.

[ShinkenW]

The Fateful War movie was great, we caught a glimpse of the original ShinkenRed, had a first taste of the Kyoryu disk and its origami & capabilities, and the combat scenes were fantastic.
Also loved the Shinkenger vs Go-onger movie, it's more light-hearted...like the different worlds, my favorite is the Samurai world with Kotoha, Chiaki, Gunpei & Renn, and their scenes in the Samurai world are some of my faves from the movie.
But I don't particularly like the Shinkenger Returns V-Cinema though...yeah it is a pretty silly movie, funny at times, but overall not really my cup of tea.

As for the Hyper mode, contrary to those who think Hyper mode is just a re-colored version of the Super mode, technically it isn't. Super mode merely gives the Shinkenger a power-up to all their existing techniques and attacks. But the Hyper mode is a significantly stronger upgrade with new weapons and a additional origami which is significantly strong that was used by the original ShinkenRed. Once in hyper mode, the user utilizes the mojikara of the Kyoryu disk and its weapon the Kyoryumaru...unlike the Super mode, which can only be used with the Shinkengers' original weapons & mojikara disks.

So technically, the 2 upgrades are actually very different to each other...it's just the jackets merely look exactly the same only in different colors.

[Ryan Steele]

What did you think of Hyper Mode, the Kyoryumaru, Kyoryu Origami, and Kyoryu Samuraihaoh?

They were all nice. I liked the story behind them in the movie and how the disk was activated

[Qarlf]

First full Sentai I watch from beginning to end. I loved this series, and also was my first sentai I started on too. So much good love for this series, Tani Chiaki was my favorite character. Also loved the morph sequence.

[Mr. CD]

Do you have any regrets about what Shinkenger DIDNT do?

[ForeverBlue]

^Nope...nothing I can think of

[YellowAccel]

^same here

[Digifiend]

Yeah, I wish Kaoru and Takeru had fought side by side. We only saw the two ShinkenReds fight together in Gokaiger.

[KyoryuRed]

^same here! but, it was great to see GokaiRed and GokaiPink gokai change into two ShinkenReds in Gokaiger!

[Thrax]

Do you have any regrets about what Shinkenger DIDNT do?

I dont have any regrets about Shinkenger it as a Brilliant Sentai.

[Ryan Steele]

I have two regrets that would make the show more awesome for me.

1.Kaoru fighting with the other team in the final battle
2.Kotoha becoming at some point more outgoing and not so shy. Many will disagree about it but personally that thing pissed me off about her because obviously she had it

[Kaizoku Blue]

I wish Shinkenger had been paced better. It got boring in the middle but the beginning and end were epic

[ShinkenW]

Yeah, I wish Kaoru and Takeru had fought side by side. We only saw the two ShinkenReds fight together in Gokaiger.

I agree with you, I have long wished we'd be able to see Takeru & Kaoru fighting side by side...although we did have the 2 ShinkenReds fighting together in Gokaiger when Marv & Ahim henshined into them, and I'm grateful that we at least saw the 2 ShinkenReds fighting side by side...but it's still not Takeru & Kaoru, so that bit is still empty for me.


I have two regrets that would make the show more awesome for me.

1.Kaoru fighting with the other team in the final battle
2.Kotoha becoming at some point more outgoing and not so shy. Many will disagree about it but personally that thing pissed me off about her because obviously she had it

agree with you too, and about Kotoha, she's a strong fighter & a great person, and she should be a little more outgoing...even when she eventually became more confident, she was still shy.


I wish Shinkenger had been paced better. It got boring in the middle but the beginning and end were epic

that has to be blamed on Kobayashi's crappy writing style with the way she handles the fillers :straightface:she really should improve on that...though I have doubts she will...

[Mr. Pink]

the fillers would have been fine if they aired out of order... as many of the fillers could have fit any where in the order of the acts

[cypsiman2]

Yeah, I wish Kaoru and Takeru had fought side by side. We only saw the two ShinkenReds fight together in Gokaiger.

Quoted for eternal truth.

[Mr. White]

What Digi said. Can't really think of anything else off the top of my head.

[Thrax]

I have two regrets that would make the show more awesome for me.

1.Kaoru fighting with the other team in the final battle
2.Kotoha becoming at some point more outgoing and not so shy. Many will disagree about it but personally that thing pissed me off about her because obviously she had it

I really wish to Kaoru should by in the Final Battle aganst Doukoku will be great see Seven Shinkengers vs the Great Doukoku !!

[ShinkenW]

^well...it depends on which perspective you see it...it's true that Kaoru did not personally fight in the final battle with Doukoku alongside the other Shinkengers. But technically, she still participated in the battle one way or another...I mean, before the Shinkengers went into battle, Kaoru had created the Shiba disk using her own mojikara, that she gave Takeru to use in the battle...and when the Shinkengers were at the verge of defeat, Kaoru created another one at the last minute. By utilizing Kaoru's mojikara via the Shiba disk she created, it helped to weaken Doukoku.

So if you think about it from that perspective, Kaoru in fact DID assist the other Shinkengers during the final battle, she DID lend her power to them, so technically, it was actually the strengths and mojikara of all 7 Shinkengers that ultimately destroyed Doukoku, not 6.
But yes, in terms of physical combat, Kaoru did not fight in the battle personally...but at least she did contributed to the battle in some ways and assisted the others.

Besides, I don't think Kaoru had fully recovered and strong enough to go into battle at that time...she was severely wounded from Doukoku's attack and was still bandaged up the next day, so I honestly did not expect her to go into battle with the others anyway, I doubt she was strong enough to engage in physical combat at the time. Though she still barely had enough strength to create the second Shiba mojikara disk...I think that was probably all she could do to help the others at that stage while she was recuperating.

[Thrax]

^

Kaoru and the others fight aganst Doukoku when he comes from the Sanzu River when he sacrifices Dayu to he keep him inside of the Humam World, when she as use the Sealing Power to keep him in Sanzu and them he returns again official she as battle him with the others.
When Kaoru created the other Disk for Takeru use the Final Battle aganst him we can really consider she help them and participate as well and and as Power of Seven defeated Doukoku for good and Kaoru dont have been really in shape for help the others because of the Last Battle.

[Mako]

Everyone complains about her writing the fillers but if you looked Kobayashi didnt write half of the fillers you complain about , the other writers were involed in them not her and shocking enough the Girls Super episodes wernt written by Her either thats probaly why they was soo filler

[Ryan Steele]

I never saw that "Filler" problem personally. If one show had tones of filler that was Go-Onger. At least in Shinkenger everything had a point of excistence. Never got bored for any reason.

[Mako]

i didnt because the fillers people are complaining about was either a new weapon or power up accept for the school one

[ShinkenW]

Everyone complains about her writing the fillers but if you looked Kobayashi didnt write half of the fillers you complain about , the other writers were involed in them not her and shocking enough the Girls Super episodes wernt written by Her either thats probaly why they was soo filler

even though Kobayashi doesn't write all the episodes...even as head writer, some of the episodes would be written by other writers...but as head writer, she did wrote the majority of the episodes, including some of the fillers, and often the head writer is also obliged to arrange the scripts. The other writers do contribute some in the writing, but the head writer manages much of the storylines, including writing the main storyline, and often is in charge of the arrangements for the episodes too.

Is it just mere coincidence that Kobayashi's other works tend to have this problem with how the fillers were arranged too? The sub-writers merely assist the head writer by writing a couple of episodes...but the head writer handles much of the storylines, scripts & arranging of the scripts.

Remember, it's not the fillers themselves that people have a problem with, it's how they were arranged in the series.

[Mako]

Yes But ShinkenEarth you go look which episodes were written by her , she maybe the head but the mainw riters for them fillers everyone is complaining about dont have her name on them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Samurai_Sentai_Shinkenger_episodes look at that then get back to me , this is what i mean

[ShinkenW]

^ like I said before, it's NOT the fillers themselves that people complain about, there was nothing wrong with the filler eps themselves...it's how they were arranged in the series....and as head writer, Kobayashi was most likely in charge of arranging the scripts/episodes because she was managing much of the storylines.
It's often part of the head writer's job to manage & arrange the scripts and storylines...this is why people just don't like the way Kobayashi handled the fillers.

So it's NOT the fillers that people have a problem with, it's how they were arranged in the series, and that was Kobayashi's job, regardless of whether she wrote them or not.

The head writer lays down the rules when it comes to the storylines & scripts, he/she manages just about everything with regards to the scripts and pretty much tells the sub-writers what she/he wants, what kind of episode will come next etc...and if he/she wants a filler, then she/he will tell the sub-writers that, and if the head writer doesn't write it, he/she asks the sub-writers to.

[Mako]

ah ok but again like Ryan i dont even see the middle as fillers , i saw two in the middle which was 30 and 37

[ShinkenW]

^it just comes down to personal opinion...

As much as I love Shinkenger, even I have to admit that it had a major filler problem in the middle...although I still enjoyed just about every episode, but to be honest, even I felt much of the episodes in the middle were mere fillers and really did not help with the main story. Of course, that doesn't mean those fillers were "bad", there was nothing wrong with the filler eps themselves...but fillers are just what they are, they don't relate to the main story, but are merely put in to fill in the gaps...fillers can be enjoyable and can even help with character development for the characters...but they're pointless to the main story, that's why they are called 'fillers'.

And Shinkenger has a lot of episodes in the middle which really were pointless to the main story, hence they're considered 'fillers'. Because of this the main story really went nowhere during this filler period in the middle, it's like the whole story flow just stagnated during that period in the series.

[Mako]

Very true but i think the first half had more fillers then the middle

but the middle parts fillers like 31 was for hypershinkenred so yeah that could be a filler but every sentai has a new weapon episode and we even had a backstory for a family connected whic was 32-33 , 34 and 35 were backstories to Mako and Ryunosuke so no way fillers, 36 : was a filler but Kotoha changed to Super the way that could of been handled was put the story of 41 instead to not make it a filler so yeah it was filler but still had big super moment 37: was defo a filler, 38 wasnt a filler it was a backstory to Jii and important with a new weapon or else nearlly killing the team, 39 was the turning point from then on no fillers even though 41 could of had a stronger storyline to Kotoha so count three they could of worked on 30,36,37,

[ShinkenW]

to me, it was obvious much of the fillers were in the middle...yes, there were a lot of episodes in the middle which focused on the backstory & character developments for some of the characters, like Mako's family, Ryunosuke's struggles with kabuki etc, Hikoma's family etc but what did it have to do with the main story? Nothing. Although those episodes focused on the characters, and gave them some development, but a lot of them didn't help the main story itself, that's why people consider them as 'fillers'.

And like I said, filler episodes can be focused on the characters, show their backstories and give them character development...but if it is unrelated to the main story itself, then generally they are still considered 'fillers', that's why ep 34 & 35 are considered as fillers too....they focused on Mako and Ryunosuke, but did nothing for the main story. Other fillers include ep 27-31, 36 & 37...ep 38 I think really depends on who you ask...personally I don't see ep 38 as a filler, I see it as a extension to the Ushi arc with the introduction of the bazooka, and Ushi I think in a way ties into the main story. But others might feel differently about it.

yes I do think there were a couple of fillers in the first half too which were unrelated to the main story, but they were arranged more evenly with the progression eps in a way that they did not disrupt the story flow...but with so much fillers in the middle one after another in succession, it became a problem.

[White Wind]

I would not have minded the filler stuff, if it didn't make the plot so dry. That is why Shinkenger didn't keep its number one spot for me. I only found a few episodes that really set Shinkenger above other sentai that I have seen. When it was good it was FANTASTIC but when it was dry it was DRY. For Shinkenger to be the perfect season for me, I would have to skip almost half of the episodes to be perfectly honest. I'm not trying to bash Shinkenger, it will remain one of my favorite seasons but that is just a sad observation as I try another re-watch.

[Thrax]

Everyone complains about her writing the fillers but if you looked Kobayashi didnt write half of the fillers you complain about , the other writers were involed in them not her and shocking enough the Girls Super episodes wernt written by Her either thats probaly why they was soo filler

The Fillers dont bother me really because is always a way to develoment the chracters and not just put Storyarcs next to each other until comes for the Final Battle in the Shinkenger.

[Mr. Pink]

fillers are good unless there is essentially an arc of fillers which many fans feel like there was in the middle shinkenger. a long series of pointless episodes that dont really amount to anything week after week really makes the story drag. most of the fillers were good episodes but it was really the order in which they were aired that really hindered the show

[Kaizoku Blue]

I never saw that "Filler" problem personally. If one show had tones of filler that was Go-Onger. At least in Shinkenger everything had a point of excistence. Never got bored for any reason.

I can't agree with that. There was so much fanfare over the arrival of Ushi Origami, a mecha that ultimately did nothing useful and wasn't even used in the final battle. All Akumaro really did in the end was to die in a scene intended to say "hey, look how evil Juuzou is!", a point that had already been made by then and would be made again afterwards.

I do like some of the character episodes in Shinkenger, but there were a few things during the "filler" that didn't really go anywhere

[Mr. Pink]

What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger

[Mr. CD]

I got sick on the Red Carpet treatment Toei liked to give Shikenger, so I was not happy to those keys used again. It was cool seeing Karou back.

[ShinkenW]

Red carpet treatment? I think the only season Toei truly gave such love & homage to is Go-onger...

they only paid tribute to Shinkenger for eps 11 & 12 (even then the arc had so much focus on Joe), only Kaoru returned (though Chiaki & Genta did appear in the 199 movie), yes, it used ShinkenGokaiOh many times in the first half or so of Gokaiger, but then it was not used again until the second last ep. However Marvelous did use the ShinkenRed key quite a lot of times throughout the season...but then, he used several red senshi keys many times in the series too. female ShinkenRed key was used a few times also...Joe used ShinkenBlue key about twice in total, and of course all the Shinkenger keys were used in the Shinkenger tribute...besides the ShinkenRed key, all the other Shinkenger keys were not used much at all...they were rarely used actually.

I don't really think Shinkenger's homage was really that significant compared to the kind of special treatment Go-onger was given for the anniversary season.

[Mr. White]

At first I liked it, but after all that ShinkenGokaioh I started to get sick of it. Though it was nice seeing Karou again.

[Qarlf]

Yeah with Gokaiger 199 I was hoping to see more Chiaki. But no, sad but oh well. I did enjoy the ShinkenGokaioh a lot. Kaoru training with Joe was awesome, and I just wish to see Takeru at the end of the Shinken tribute episodes.

[Ryan Steele]

What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger

It was the first time I saw Kaoru and I liked her. I agree they used way too much SinkenGokaioh and back then I hated Power Rangers Samurai and this was bothering me. But things changed when I watched Shinkenger

[YellowAccel]

What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger

I'm glad they bring back Kaoru. I think the tribute was one of the best of Gokaiger. Each time they used the shinkenger keys they did a great fight in shinkenger style (exept for the all blue gokai change since they did nothing). I like Shinken Gokai Oh but they used it too much.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger

That as really great and see Kaoru again as awesome !!

[KyoryuRed]

What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger

it was all right. i re-watch Shinkenger tribute ep yesterday ands it was good to see Kaoru again but, i wish Kotoha would make a cameo in the final ep of Gokaiger

[Mr. CD]

Final thoughts on the series? Would you recommend this season to anyone? Why or why not?

[Ryan Steele]

The show was much much better than Samurai and made me forget how much Samurai sucked. It made me start enjoying watching samurai in fact. It's a must seen because of the nicelly developed characters, the feeling you get from the traditional samurai style (that is a joke in Power Rangers Samurai), the cool villains, the first time red female sentai and how great she was put into the story and of cource for the first teamup ever with Kamen Rider! (Decade)
So yes many reasons that making this show interesting. People who loved Hurricanger for its traditional ninja style will find their paradise here!

[YellowAccel]

It was a good serie with a great cast, a good story (even if it's some episodes are a bit borring), the villain are not the best though and the final is ok IMO.
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[Thrax]

Final thoughts on the series? Would you recommend this season to anyone? Why or why not?

Shinkenger as pretty great Sentai i really enjoyed the Show and all is elemente,Shinkenger,Villans,Mechas etc, the sho itself have much potencial and use them really well and the develoment of the characters as great and the Red Shinkenger as awesome.
The fans who enjoyed such seasons like Hurricanger,Gekiranger and others Sentai similar obvius will loved Shinkenger.

[KyoryuRed]

i agreed with Ryan, Alex and Thrax!

it's awesome and much better than Suckmurai.

Shinkenger is the real reason that i now like Super Sentai more than PR.

[Kaizoku Blue]

Shinkenger is not my favourite season, but I'd recommend it for a newcomer to the franchise. I think it's a good starting point for someone just getting into Sentai.

[cypsiman2]

Samurai Sentai Shinkenger was a good series, though it did have a weak middle and some pretty awful mecha designs. I'd say its a good choice for someone's first series, especially if they like their Red's serious and stoic.

[ShinkenW]

Overall Shinkenger is a great season with awesome motif and good characters and interesting storylines. Yes, it does have its flaws such as the filler issue in the middle and too many mechas, but all seasons have their own flaws.

Shinkenger is one of my favorite Sentai seasons, and I don't think that will ever change :D

[ForeverBlue]

Final thoughts on the series? Would you recommend this season to anyone? Why or why not?


My final thoughts was that Shinkenger was a very interesting series. Not sure who would I recommend this series to watch.

[ShinkenW]

^anyone who is new to Sentai, or have not watched the season yet ;)

[Y2j1915]

why do they say with these brush strokes we report the Emperor whenever they morph? I realize that they are very into ancient Japanese culture but they don't serve an Emperor or a descendent of one at least not that I've seen so far anyway also what providence are they authorized by?

[ShinkenW]

The story is stemmed from feudal Japan, the Edo period to be specific...during this time, Japan was not controlled by the royal family, instead the country was ruled by the shogans of the great Tokugawa family, their control over the country during that time is such that the Tokugawa family were really seen like royals.

In Shinkenger, the great family the story is centered around is the Shiba family...I would imagine the Shiba family is like the fictional equivalent of the historical Tokugawa family that ruled Japan during the Edo period, though not quite...but in Shinkenger, the Shiba family were a very powerful & noble family of samurais. I don't think it was ever really implied in the series whether the Shiba family had actually ruled the country or specific parts of the country, all we know is that they were a very powerful & highly respected family of samurais that founded the mojikara and created this legendary squadron known as the Shinkengers which has been fighting the Gedoushu for centuries. For these reasons, the Shiba family are really like royals in the story, they have vassals who serve the family from other highly regarded samurai families in the means of the Shinkenger team.

As for the providence they are authorized by, I would think it's the entire country...I mean, the Shiba family and the Shinkengers have been protecting the human world from the Gedoushu for centuries, so I'm assuming the providence is really referring to the nation of Japan and its people recognizing and authorizing the Shinkengers' duties in protecting the country's people from threats like the Gedoushu.

[Thrax]

The Japonese shows much like this we have Samurai X for example did that too !!

[146Chris]

What did you think of the Shinkengers' roll call since it was such a departure from the elaborate ones of the recent seasons before it (e.g. Hurricanger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, and Go-Onger)?
I loved it, it was one of the better roll calls in a while.

What did you think of the origami being sentient and well origami?
It fit well with the Japanese theme.

What did you think of jii?
He did his job and really helped with the Shinkenger's characters. Other then that he didnt do much besides some moments in Act 38 and Act 49.

What did you think of the Opening Theme?
Its really catchy and one of my favorites.

What did you think of the Ending Theme?
Didnt really care for it.

What did you think of the suits?
Perfect, i thought the designs gave a good amount of there color but didnt leave out any other colors like Black or White.

What did you think of the cast?
They all where very good actors and i enjoyed how they really brought the characters to life.

What did you think of the Gedoushuu
Sometimes they had good plans and some good monsters but then other times they didnt do much.

What did you think of the concept of Mojikara?
It was interesting and gave them a power no other Sentai team had.

What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?
Shinkenoh looks great and is one of my favorite mecha. Tenkuu Shinkenoh looks alright i like the drill's on the back.

What did you think of the Kurokos?
They made the Shinkengers a bit less "real" with them doing everything for there lord.

What did you think of Genta/Shinken Gold?
Hes crazy and funny. He brings something new to the show and Shinken Gold's powers are some of my favorites.

What did you think of Ika Origami, Ebi Origami, and Daikaioh?
Ika Origami was a original idea and had cool powers. Ebi i didnt really care for too much in his normal mode but Daikaioh was cool in design but the four modes kinda where useless.

What did you think of the crossover with Decade?
Alright so here this goes. Decade is my favorite Kamen Rider series and my first. Decade did a good job keeping the characters the same and haveing the two series get some development. One of my favorite moments is when the Shinkengers think the camera is a bomb and when Genta has to find and at the end help Kamen Rider Diend. These episodes show the best of both teams or should i say worlds ;).

What did you think of Juuzo's and Dayuu's backstories?
Juuzo is one of my favorite sentai villians and Dayuu i didnt care for too much, i actually thought Dayu (Power Rangers Samurai/Super Samurai's version of Dayuu) was better done.

What did you think of the Inromaru, Super Shinkenger, DaikaiShinkenoh, and the "death" of Juuzo?
The Inromaru brought out some of the best of Genta. Super Shinkenger mode looked silly with it just being a bath robe. Daikai Shinkenoh didnt have a lot of Shinkenoh to show on him. He mostly looked like Daikaioh. Juuzo's "death" i thought originaly was a horrible end to him. It wasnt a long battle at all and he really get some attacks on Takeru much.

What did you think of Daigoyo?
One of my favorite sidekicks and allies, he was funny and was great with Genta.

What did you think of Akumaro and the return of Juuzo?
Akumaro was a better villian then Dokokou i thought and his plan was very creative. The reutnr of Juzzo was something i was looking forward to because his original "death" wasnt a good ending.

What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?
Ushi Origami wasnt used much and i didnt really think too much of him. Mougyudaioh's finisher is my favorite finisher attack and he has a really nice design. Samuraihaoh is better then G12 (Has a spot for almost all of the Origami unlike the engines and has less zords) other then that his finisher was awesome.

What did you think of Doukoku coming out of the Sanzu River, Akumaro's plan to bring Hell on earth, and the death of Akumaro?
Doukoku was a bad*** when he came out of the River and was a beast. Akumaro's plan was my favorite in a while for evil villians. Akumaro's death was awesome with Juuzo betraying him and with Kyoryu Samuraihaoh.

What did you think of Karou, Tanba, the reveal that she's the true Shiken Red, and that Takeru is a shadow?
Karou wasnt a spoiled brat princess but didnt get a lot of development. Her being the real Shinken Red was a good idea to bring in a female red ranger plus it gave Takeru more development. Tanba i HATE hes annoying!!!!

What did you think of the return of Dokokou, the deaths of Juuzo and Dayuu, and the finale?
Dokokou's return was ok and Dayuu really didnt get a good death because of that. Juuzo's death is one of my favorites and was handled well. The finale was well done and i loved how they entered the origami un-morphed. Dokokou's death was handled well and the ending really brought a close to the series.

What did you think of the Shinkenger Movie, Shinkenger vs. Go-onger, and Shinkenger Returns?
The Shinkenger Movie was epic and seeing a returning sentai member be the original Shinkenred was a cool addition. Shinkenger vs. Go-onger is my second favorite team up because im a fan of both series and they really gave some good moments to each team. Shinkenger Returns was funny and i loved seeing all the stories they did.

What did you think of Hyper Mode, the Kyoryumaru, Kyoryu Origami, and Kyoryu Samuraihaoh?
Hyper Mode looks better then Super Mode but it is still a bath robe. The Kyoryumaru looks better then the Shinkenmaru and is my favorite Shinkenger sword. The Kyoryu Origami wasnt used much and was just a bigger Kyoryumaru. The Kyoryu Samuraihaoh's finisher was the only good thing about it.

Do you have any regrets about what Shinkenger DIDNT do?
Have both Shinken Red's fight and thats it.

What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger
The Shinkenger keys where awesome because i can see there powers again plus we get both Shinken Red's fighting. The Shinkenger's where not in Gokaiger that much but when they where they did a good job.

Final thoughts on the series? Would you recommend this season to anyone? Why or why not?
Shinkenger is a very good sentai series and is one of my favorites. You really get to know the characters and feel for them. The weapons are some of the best plus you get some great mecha. I would recommend this season to people because it is Sentai at its best.

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