Samurai Sentai Shinkenger Discussion

[Mr. Pink]

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Samurai Sentai Shinkenger
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(February 15, 2009 to February 7, 2010, 49 Episodes)

Cast

Takeru Shiba/Shinken Red - Tori Matsuzaka
Ryunosuke Ikenami/Shinken Blue - Hioki Aiba
Mako Shiraishi/Shinken Pink - Rin Takanashi
Chiaki Tani/Shinken Green - Shogo Suzuki
Kotoha Hanaori/Shinken Yellow - Suzuka Morita
Genta Umemori/Shinken Gold - Keisuke Sohma
Kaoru Shiba/Hime Shinken Red - Runa Natsui
Hikoma “Jii” Kusakabe - Gorou Ibuki

Questions:
What did you think of the Shinkengers' roll call since it was such a departure from the elaborate ones of the recent seasons before it (e.g. Hurricanger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, and Go-Onger)?
What did you think of the origami being sentient and well origami?
What did you think of jii?
What did you think of the Opening Theme?
What did you think of the Ending Theme?
What did you think of the suits?
What did you think of the cast?
What did you think of the Gedoushuu
What did you think of the concept of Mojikara?
What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?
What did you think of the Kurokos?
What did you think of Genta/Shinken Gold?
What did you think of Ika Origami, Ebi Origami, and Daikaioh?
What did you think of the crossover with Decade?
What did you think of Juuzo's and Dayuu's backstories?
What did you think of the Inromaru, Super Shinkenger, DaikaiShinkenoh, and the "death" of Juuzo?
What did you think of Daigoyo?
What did you think of Akumaro and the return of Juuzo?
What did you think of Ushi Origami, Mougyudaioh, and Samuraihaoh?
What did you think of Doukoku coming out of the Sanzu River, Akumaro's plan to bring Hell on earth, and the death of Akumaro?
What did you think of Karou, Tanba, the reveal that she's the true Shiken Red, and that Takeru is a shadow?
What did you think of the return of Dokokou, the deaths of Juuzo and Dayuu, and the finale?
What did you think of the Shinkenger Movie, Shinkenger vs. Go-onger, and Shinkenger Returns?
What did you think of Hyper Mode, the Kyoryumaru, Kyoryu Origami, and Kyoryu Samuraihaoh?
Do you have any regrets about what Shinkenger DIDNT do?
What did you think of the use of the Shinkenger keys and the Shinkenger themselves in Gokaiger
Final thoughts on the series? Would you recommend this season to anyone? Why or why not?


Season Summary
Samurai Sentai Shinkenger is the 33rd installment of the Super Sentai franchise.

The Shinkenger are the heirs of their samurai ancestors. The Shinkenger and the Gedoushuu have been fighting since the beginning of time. The ancient samurai succeeded to seal them away millenia ago, but today the seal is broken. For eighteen generations, samurai of the Shiba House have suppressed the evil intentions of the Gedoushu, malevolent spirits that enter the world of the living from gaps between buildings and other structures. Now, Takeru Shiba, the youngest head of the Shiba Clan must gather his four vassals in order to battle the Gedoushu under the revived Doukoku Chimatsuri as the Shinkengers. However, as they are joined by his childhood friend Genta, the vassals slowly learn that there's a reason for Takeru's behavior that sets him apart from his predecessors.

Shinkenger is the first Super Sentai series that features a team-up with Super Sentai's sister franchise, Kamen Rider, in this case Kamen Rider Decade. Episodes of Kamen Rider Decade on July 12 and July 19, 2009, as well as Shinkenger Act 21, featured a crossover between the two series.

Shinkenger broke new grounds in Sentai by having the first female Red Warrior in Karou (Though, PR had beat Sentai 4 years earlier in SPD). Karou also returns in Gokaiger to demand the Gokaigers return the Shinkenger Ranger Keys. After seeing their comradey, she unlocks the Great Power of Shinkenger in the form of ShinkenGokaioh. Chiaki and Genta also make two cameos in Gokaiger Goseiger Super Sentai 199 Hero Great Battle. The first one being when they tell the Goseigers that they've lost their powers in the Legend War. And the second being in a crowd shot when Black Cross King is delivering his message of doom.

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[Mr. Pink]

What did you think of the Shinkengers' roll call since it was such a departure from the elaborate ones of the recent seasons before it (e.g. Hurricanger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, and Go-Onger)?

Shinken Red, Shiba Takeru.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Blue. Ikenami Ryunosuke.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Pink. Shiraishi Mako.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Green. Tani Chiaki.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Yellow. Hanaori Kotoha.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Gold. Umemori Genta.

[Mr. CD]

Reminded me a bit of Zyu's, Dai's, Kaku's, and Ginga's with them saying their civilian names at the end.

[Mr. Pink]

I liked how it reflected the lord theme and kept the basic structure when someone was missing, but found it pointless when there was only two of them (e.g. the female focus episode)

[Ranger_Seth]

I liked it. It was simple, short, and too the point. Though you are right, Pink, it was kinda pointless to do it when only two Shinkengers were there.

[cypsiman2]

It was neat, though declaring "The Same!" will always feel just a bit awkward to me. That's a natural function of the whole Lord/Vassal arrangement, so hmm.

[KyoryuRed]

I liked it. that was pretty cool.

[Mr. White]

Ah Shinkenger. The first sentai I watched during it's run.

The roll call was pretty cool. I liked how they said their names during the roll call.

[Thrax]

A Great Roll Call for Shinkenger and it as great Sentai !!

[ShinkenW]

ummm....why are there 2 open threads for Shinkenger? The other one is not even closed, so shouldn't they be merged?

Anyway, I love Shinkenger, it's my favorite Sentai season to date, and IMO, they had the best roll call ever! It's very traditional, really complements the theme. The henshin itself is epic, but I also love how they incorporate the Kurokos in their roll call, al the flags & screens, how they change into their kimonos with hakamas and the sound of taiko drums upon their arrival, very traditional :D

[YellowAccel]

I like the roll call. It's simple but cool. Not my favorite tough

[Digifiend]

ummm....why are there 2 open threads for Shinkenger? The other one is not even closed, so shouldn't they be merged?I agree, the post-discussion's been going on for nearly two years now and even spilled into a second thread. Time to end it.

As for the roll call, did Decade's writer not know it? The roll call there was slightly different, everyone saying Shinken instead of Onajiku.

[Thrax]

ummm....why are there 2 open threads for Shinkenger? The other one is not even closed, so shouldn't they be merged?

Anyway, I love Shinkenger, it's my favorite Sentai season to date, and IMO, they had the best roll call ever! It's very traditional, really complements the theme. The henshin itself is epic, but I also love how they incorporate the Kurokos in their roll call, al the flags & screens, how they change into their kimonos with hakamas and the sound of taiko drums upon their arrival, very traditional :D

Shinkenger is my Favorite Sentai because i really enjoyed the way of the show the roll call is cool and well the flags i dont like mcuh but with time starts to make cool in the show and the theme played in there roll call is sweet.

Shinkenger is much awesome Sentai and i enjoyed much the Mechas as well.

[Mr. Pink]

The other shinkenger thread is still open because I am waiting on the responses of the other mods since shinkenger post discussion is more of a free for all and this thread for right now is more answering staff questions

[ForeverBlue]

The roll calls were pretty good.

[JuzoFuwa]

I enjoyed it.

I don't know if it's just because Shinkenger was the first sentai I saw, or if anyone else felt this, but the fact that their roll calls included their names was kind of cool. I was (and still am) used to PR/Sentai roll calls such as "Gokai Red". This kind of showed how their Shinkenger identity was the same as their "civilian" identity, rather than separate?

[nbajammer]

Loved it. Wish it were more than just "The same, (color)" but the feel of the retainers protecting their lord is classic.

[Mako]

Shinkengers my favourite show and will remain my favourite show, heck i celebrate it every year since it aired 3 years This Month :D i can't wait ! please do not shut that decussion down , The actors are very busy and our very own ShinkenRed is Japanese Number one Actor this year and his first lead role in cinimeas this year He has even recieaved to awards ,
Rin's (Mako ) also has got her first lead Movie in the cinimea's this year
Shogo (Chiaki ) : even though His band is disbanding their album to reached number 5 in the charts
AIba : Has anime voice acting and Stage shows
Keisuke ( Has his stage shows and acting )
Suu-chan : ShinkenEarth can tell you about i just know she is very busy
* if you wish to close id say rename it, ( id update more if people wanted to help with it )

anyway back to the decussion :D just listing to the theme is very special , I loved how it was Japanese traditional , i loved how the story was focused on an important messgae and , how 6 strangers came together to become a family , Loved everything , they have an amazing soundtrack to :)!

[Mr. CD]

As for the roll call, did Decade's writer not know it? The roll call there was slightly different, everyone saying Shinken instead of Onajiku.

The crossover was written by Kobayashi, who was Shinken head writer, so maybe she felt like doing something special for the crossover.

[ShinkenW]

our very own ShinkenRed is Japanese Number one Actor this year

Tori was recently voted as the #1 much anticipated young actor for this year...not "number one actor".

Also Mako, there's no need to get carried away in this thread, you can save that for the other Shinkenger thread ;) in this thread however, we are simply answering various questions from the mods about the season.

[Mr. Pink]

What did you think of the origami being sentient and well origami?

[Mr. CD]

What was the point of them being origamis when only the first five mechas had any "origami-like" attributes.

[Mr. Pink]

well ika's legs could fold, tora could reconfigure itself and kabuto could share its legs with kajiki.. i think it was a very loose interpretation... i thought kame was lame as was saru and shishi to some extent. ryu and kuma were creative in the origami aspect

[Mr. White]

It was ok.

[Takeru]

Well I liked it,as it was a first for Mecha in Sentai,or any other Toku with Robo's per say,no?

[ShinkenW]

well ika's legs could fold, tora could reconfigure itself and kabuto could share its legs with kajiki.. i think it was a very loose interpretation... i thought kame was lame as was saru and shishi to some extent. ryu and kuma were creative in the origami aspect

Just how was Shishi "lame" exactly? Please do enlighten me on that, because I just don't see it...at all...and neither was Saru, sure its only attacks seems to be just punching with its fists, but if we were to judge on 'creative' terms, then I don't see how Saru was any less "creative" than the Kuma, or Ryu or any of the others...and besides, Kuma also seemed to have just 1 kind of attack, scratching its enemy with its claws? I think that's more lame than Saru's stronger punching attacks.

I really like the Saru origami, its punching attacks are quite forceful & practical and can really inflict some great damage to the enemy. And being the origami that's inspired by the monkey, it has the talent of maneuvering around its environment easily & quickly, and leaping up on tall building etc, being able to maneuver sufficiently is beneficial for quick direct attacks on its enemy as well as dodging attacks. For these reasons, I think Saru is probably one of the more practical origamis.

The Kuma and the Kame are my least liked origamis...I think the Kuma is perhaps the weakest among the primary 5, because it can't move around as sufficiently and its main attack is rather weak. At least the Kame can fly and can conjure a whirlwind when it spins towards its enemy.

[Mr. Pink]

I was referring to the origami as origami not as mecha. Ryu folded nicely and hid the helmet. Kuma was a brick but it worked. Kame was very lucky. Saru didn't seem like much to me. Shishi was kinda lame because the thighs if we can't come up with a better term were always just there.

Attack wise I would pretty much agree with you

[ShinkenW]

^I see...so you were just referring to the origamis when they're in emblem form? In that case, I never really thought about it...I mean, when they're in emblem form, they're just folded into shapes, nothing creative or what not about it really, they were all folded down nicely, you really can't tell what kind of animals these origamis are when they're folded in shape.
Although a portion of the Shishi's thighs or legs were always visible even when it's in emblem form...that did sort of bothered me a bit sometimes...

[Mr. Pink]

Basically. Emblem form worked better for the retainers. When you see how creative they got with ryu it makes you wonder why some of the others are fairly lazy looking. Even as animals some stood out more than others. The term origami was quite misleading since only the core had emblem mode like mr cd said.

[ShinkenW]

^true...although the subject of that really more depends on personal opinion I guess.

For me personally, I have always been interested in the Saru and Ryu origamis in particular, I agree that the Ryu origami is creative and appealing, but I find the Saru to be equally appealing, not to mention also being the cutest one of the bunch, much like its retainer ;)

I think the reason why only the core 5 origamis have emblem forms is because they are the primary origamis that are each strictly assigned to a specifc Shinkenger. While all the other origamis are special support origamis that are not bound to any specific reatainer, as they can be piloted/controlled by any of the Shinkengers.
I think the Ika origami is also a support origami, which would explain why it doesn't have a emblem form either and is not a primary origami...it is Genta's personal origami because Takeru gave it to him, thus he has control over it, so technically it can be considered a primary origami if Genta is included...but I think the Ika was still originally a support origami. Ebi is even more unique as it was created by Genta as a aquatic creatue form outright, so it also doesn't have a emblem form.

[cypsiman2]

I liked the first batch of Origami mechs, but the later ones had the discs jammed into them, which severely limited the whole folding thing that was supposed to be the point of them being Origami in the first place.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the origami being sentient and well origami?

The Origami as really great they are cool something i much enjoyed in Shinkenger are the Mechas !!!

[YellowAccel]

The five first origami were cool, but the other don't really look like origami to me But i like the idea it was original.

[Mr. Pink]

What did you think of jii?

[Mr. CD]

Jii... wel... he doesn't suck, but he wasn't great either. I like his actor, but I felt he was kinda wasted here. Jii just... never really did anything for me. Probably the only time he ever stood out to me was in the Decade crossover where he talked about how he always makes a home for the team when they reutn.

[KyoryuRed]

^same here.

[Mako]

what about episode 38 ? when He saved everyone and kicked butt? and in the final ? I loved Jii , Jii is one of the reasons i loved Shinkenger again showing the family aspect, like a Grandfather to Takeru, (Loved their relationship) Hhe was also like a father or Grandfather figure to Mako ,Chiaki and Kotoha, always there when was douting themselves, and got to Genta to when he was scared of the sushi that time, He was the person that also gathered the information and did alot for the Shinkengers as it was shown in 38 , Jii's awesome ! Without Jii Takeru would of fallen apart ages before the end. HE was always there to welcome them home, like in the strong message in the Decade episodes.

[ShinkenW]

^I totally agree with you Mako, Hikoma was a great character, he completely stood out to me, he was a great mentor to the Shinkengers and very supportive of him. People who think he was "wasted" in my opinion really didn't think enough of it, I mean, think about it, because of Hikoma's mentoring, Chiaki was able to really start understanding about what mojikara really is and able to find his inner strength, and with Hikoma's encouragement & interference, Kotoha was finally able to let go of years of false belief of her being her sister's replacement. And there's really no need to bring in detail about Takeru's strong bond with Hikoma. Oh yes, and that one time when Hikoma force-fed Genta the sushi, if he hadn't done so, then Genta's phobia of sushi would've persisted and he would've really given up being a Shinkenger and leave the group altogether...then the group would've been left without their 6th senshi.

Hikoma is always the one by their side supporting the group, nurturing and encouraging them whenever they start doubting themselves, and because of his support and encouragements, they change for the better. He is like a father figure to each and every one of them, personally, I think Hikoma is to some extent, the character that keeps the group together.
Can you imagine how the Shinkengers would've turned out without all of Hikoma's mentoring, encouragements and support, or if Hikoma had not existed at all? Chiaki would've continued to be this lazy, weak, inexperienced kid who still prefers to hang out at the arcade all day, Kotoha would've continued to doubt herself, Genta would've given up on his dream and being a Shinkenger altogether just because his phobia of sushi persists. Mako and Ryunosuke too, would've lost their way, and i can't imagine how Takeru would've turned out without Hikoma by his side. The Shinkengers changed and matured as human beings, and became how they are now because of Hikoma's mentoring, and constant support. I doubt the Shinkengers would've been able to change themselves without all of Hikoma's help.

IMO I think Hikoma is one of the stronger mentoring characters in Sentai in a long while, and is certainly one of the stronger characters in the season.
Therefore, I completely disagree with anyone who thinks that Hikoma was a "wasted" character...he is merely a Jii, but has made such a huge impact on the team, and they changed for the better because of him, he is every bit a important character in the season.

And truth be told...I would not love Shinkenger as much as I do without Hikoma.

[YellowAccel]

Jii... wel... he doesn't suck, but he wasn't great either. I like his actor, but I felt he was kinda wasted here. Jii just... never really did anything for me. Probably the only time he ever stood out to me was in the Decade crossover where he talked about how he always makes a home for the team when they reutn.

Agree with you.

[cypsiman2]

I rather liked him, he was a fun character who would occasionally kick some sense into the whippersnappers under his care, what's not to like?

[Mr. White]

I liked Jii. He was pretty funny at times.

[Thrax]

Ji is cool and always prepred to help the Shinkengers and have is role there.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Opening Theme?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRwE_ynQgA

[YellowAccel]

^I love it. It's one of my favorite opening theme with Magiranger

[ShinkenW]

the opening theme is definitely one of my favorites!

[Takeru]

^Loved it too,it sounds really Japanese inspired then most other themes.

[cypsiman2]

It's a pretty sweet tune, no denying that.

[Digifiend]

Yeah, great theme tune.

You know, I swear you can actually hear a few instrumental bars in the PRS music (listen to The Team Unites when the rangers are at the top of the stairs, about to morph). Probably a coincidence, because the chan chan bara portion in instrumental does sound similar to Go Go Power Rangers.

[Kaizoku Blue]

I like the OP

[nbajammer]

I loved Jii and the role he played - like Mako said, he was much more than a mentor, he was like a grandfather who showed true compassion. He cared not only for Takeru, who he proudly took responsibility for, but also for the retainers. It's been a rare find lately, a mentor who cares as much as Jii does who does so much not only to improve their characters but also to welcome them with little surprises (such as in the final episode where he promised to make all their favorites if they beat Dokoku)

As for the theme, it's very good and very catchy. I found myself humming along to it as I watched many episodes, even where it wasn't used in-show. Probably my favorite of them all, with Gokaiger right behind it.

[Mako]

I Love the theme song,very special to listin to , very catchy and the opening is very tradtional and love they did everything even though i would of liked to have seen Genta get added and show them older then they say lets Bushido in it, as they all are walking from the mansion , that would of been cool to change as the series went on but the entire Shinkenger soundtrack its amazing, i mean just from this track you can tell what kind of series it is and the bond and sad times, so much emotion,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUlKSnUvos

[Takeru]

^Omg i love that one especially where the violins start playing :')

[Mr. White]

The Opening was awesome. I love how the drums sounded in the first few seconds of the song. The guitar was pretty sweet too.

[Mr. CD]

Liked the tune, but kinda felt they were pushing the whole "Janpense" thing a bit (there's a lyric where they sing about Mt. Fuiji!).

[Digifiend]

And Mt Fuji is on the belts. Completely unexplained in PRS, of course, but makes perfect sense for such a Japanese cultured series like Shinkenger.

[Mr. Pink]

The overly Asian thing didn't work for the use of kakuranger or the bit of dairanger in Pr. Gekiranger worked barely as did hurricanger

[Mako]

Since its like a trademark at the ending song ;)!

[Thrax]

The Opening is realy awesome !!

[ShinkenW]

one of the main reasons why Shinkenger was so successful in Japan is because it's so 'Japanese', they incorporated as much Japanese tradition & culture as well as references to their pop culture & famous icons, as they could into this season, even for its opening & ending themes, and it worked really well. The Japanese fans loved it, and many there still do, many international fans also fell in love with this season & its theme.

I love how the opening and ending themes also have that touch of Japanese, especially the ending theme.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Ending Theme?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOShEnm8Iw

[cypsiman2]

It's one of the better ones I'd say.

[YellowAccel]

Not my favorite but i like it. It's catchy

[Thrax]

I liked of the End theme of Shinkenger one of the Best End themes in Sentais.

[Takeru]

What did you think of the Ending Theme?

[~Music video snip~]


This ending theme,if not,is probally my favorite out of all the Sentai ending themes,I love it so much!!! :D It really like let's me imagine me and my friends walking around in Japan,haha,idk,but yea,my FAVORITE END THEME!! With Super Sentai Hero Getter right behind :)

[Kaizoku Blue]

I like it, particularly the instrumental in the middle. It's not my fave ever Sentai ED (which would probably be Hurricaneger's) but would probably make my top five

[Mr. White]

It was ok, nothing really special for me.

[ShinkenW]

love the ending theme too, it's also 1 of my fave Sentai ending themes :)

[sentaiforever92]

I liked (i have it) but not sure if I liked the original version or the cast version more.

[Mr. Pink]

What did you think of the suits?

I liked them, though I felt Shinken Pink's helmet was the most awesome lol, though the white rim around the back always bothered me as it as different from the others

[YellowAccel]

Definitly one of the best suits. And i'm agree my favorite is Shinkenpink too. Not a fan of Gentai's suit though

[Mako]

Favourite ending, am always walking down the road listing to it :)! the words are very inspiring and shows the bond :)! The Cast ones my favourite as they really go for it ! at first i thought Tori's voice was soo like the orginal that i didnt even know it was him singing it at the start at first listing * Suits are awesome ! hmm i cant decide with ShinkenPink's my favourite to, The helmet and Kanji the way its placed shows off badass look ! Love Takeru's To, all the desugns are cool ! I think top three deigns or oder is Mako,Takeru and Genta's i think

[KyoryuRed]

the suits cool! that make sense because their visors match to those kanji

[Mr. CD]

The problem I have with the suits is the same problem I have with the Liveman suits. The tops were good, then it felt like the designer called it day afterwards, making them look like they're wearing pants.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the suits?

I liked them, though I felt Shinken Pink's helmet was the most awesome lol, though the white rim around the back always bothered me as it as different from the others

The Suits are great one of the best suits in the Sentai seasons and make my remember about the Ohranger suits because of the Egyptian simbols but the Simbols of the Shinkengers suits are awesome my favorites are the Red and Gold.

[cypsiman2]

The Shinkenger suits were pretty sweet.

[ForeverBlue]

Oops, I have fallen behind! lol


What did you think of the origami being sentient and well origami?

They were really cool.


What did you think of jii?

He was alright...didn't care much for him.


What did you think of the Opening Theme?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRwE_ynQgA

It was pretty cool.


What did you think of the Ending Theme?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOShEnm8Iw

It was good.


What did you think of the suits?

The suits were pretty good. I liked them.

[Mr. Pink]

The problem I have with the suits is the same problem I have with the Liveman suits. The tops were good, then it felt like the designer called it day afterwards, making them look like they're wearing pants.

i agree... though the shinkenger pants bothered me more than the liveman's err livemen, livemen's? suits as they already had white sleeves unlike the shinkenger who had their pants come out of left field

[Kaizoku Blue]

The suits are OK but not my favourite design. I don't like ShinkenGold, I just don't think the gold and dark blue look good togethr

[ShinkenW]

love the suits and the cool helmets with the kanji characters...initially the helmets bothered me in the beginning, but they eventually grew on me, and now I think they look really cool, it really blends in with the Japanese traditional & samurai theme. My favorites are ShinkenYellow, Red & Blue's :)

Gold's was alright...the only problem I have with the suit is that the gold doesn't really go well with the dark blue...I guess they just wanted him to stand out more...but the shiny gold would've been enough I think.

[Mr. White]

The suits were pretty cool.

[Takeru]

The suits i liked,they were kept simple,tho i dissagree about thepants looking thing on Shinkenger,i will say it looked rather lame on Goseiger -_-

Other than that,i like how it had the Japanese Bushido design on it :D Tho mYbae the Shiba crest on the back would have been good? Or too flashy?Then again we have the Super,and Hyper coats for that lol

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the cast?

[Thrax]

The cast as pretty good !!!

[KyoryuRed]

^same here! funny thing is, i don't recognized the actor who does Juzo in this show until i saw him in Faiz as Naoya. yes, i found it out at Wikipedia or TV Tropes. as well the images-

http://www.supersentai.com/database/2003_555/images/555-vi-naoya.jpg

http://www.supersentai.com/database/2009_shinkenger/images/shinken-vi-juuzo.jpg

[cypsiman2]

It was a good cast, they portrayed their characters well and had some nice chemistry together.

[Kaizoku Blue]

I don't think the Rangers were brilliant, but they did very well considering that most of them were on their first acting jobs. They got better over the course of the show. I really like the actors of Juuzou and Jii

[YellowAccel]

I love the cast. I thinkthey did a good job and i like the chemistry between them.

[Mr. CD]

In the beginning, I only liked Chiaki since he was only one who thought this whole "Lord abd Vassel" thing was BS, then they went and had to mess him up by make his character repetitive. By the end, I dislike all of them, and that's something that had never happen to me with Sentai before. There were shows where I didn't care much for the cast as whole (like Dynaman for example), but I've never dislike any of them. I just found them all to be a bunch of stuck-up pricks who care more about being impress with themselves than, you know, fighting the Gedoushuu. Seriously, this is a team where even the slightest papercut or stub toe since them either unconscious at Takeru's house or all being bandaged up (to the point of becoming self-parody), yet have the gull to nake those really arrogant introductions? Come on, man.

[Kaizoku Blue]

Oh, gosh. By "cast" I assumed we were talking about actors, but in terms of the characters ...

I think the only Rangers I really like as characters are Kotoha and Genta. I also like Jii, and while Juuzou is perhaps not Sentai's best ever villain he was an interesting one

[Mako]

I think people are getting mixed up with the what do you think about the cast or characters lol , Cast Amazing ! True Family, Best Friends, Great Chemstry which makes watching Shinkenger even more Special :D ! the next cast to seem so close is the Gokaigers i think they will be like the Shinkengers and meet up alot ,defo the boys :)!

[Mr. Pink]

I liked Mako in the beginning when she seemed kind of Tsundere, but that disolved quickly... Ryunosuke I had a love hate relationship with... I didnt really care for the others

[YellowAccel]

Ah the character not the actor. Still a great cast. I love Ryunosuke (my favorite blue ranger) Takeru (my favorite red ranger) and Mako (4th favorite pink ranger). Takeru is really an interisting character and a great fighter, Ryunosuke is also a great fighter, hilarious and loyal. Finally is Mako is a great fighter (oh surprise lol), i like how she take care of the other and try to do her best to make them happy. I like Kohota and Kaoru and chiaki and genta are ok.

[Mr. White]

The cast was alright. Takeru was my favorite out of all of them.

[ForeverBlue]

They were a pretty good cast.

[ShinkenW]

Absolutely love the cast, they're my favorite Sentai cast, and they all portrayed their characters really well and have great chemistry together.

As for the characters they played, my favorites are Kotoha, Takeru & Chiaki, but I really like all of them. I love Kotoha's innocence and selflessness, but she's a strong fighter. Chiaki underwent a dramatic transformation, I initially disliked him, but he eventually became one of my favorites after he matured & became more focused & serious about his duty. I also love Ryunosuke, he's a little over-dramatic (not as much as Genta though), but he's funny and I love his loyalty to Takeru. Genta is really hilarious, goofy and lovable to me. Hikoma I absolutely love, he's a great mentor to the Shinkengers and is like a father figure to them, he's my favorite mentor/supporting character in Sentai.
I also like Mako because of her levelheadedness and strong will, and her terrible cooking has hilarious effects on the others. I like Kaoru-hime as well.

Really, I love them all, Shinkenger is really the only Sentai season in which I like/love all its main characters...it's a rarity for me because normally I only like a couple of the main characters in each season...not even Gokaiger has me liking all its main characters.

[nbajammer]

I'm obviously not going to catch up to the questions, so I'm going to just say that there's virtually nothing that I don't like about Shinkenger. It is my favorite Sentai, hands-down.

[ShinkenW]

@Mr.CD -

wow...I cannot disagree with you more about the characters, and frankly I really cannot comprehend your perspective of them. But hey, you have your own opinions.

As for the bleeding and bandaging part...really the only times they bleed & get bandaged up is when they sustain very serious injuries....they're not machines or mutants, they are still humans, they still get hurt physically, bleeding and getting injured is normal. That's what makes the Shinkengers a bit more 'realistic' IMO, because they bleed, because they get bandaged up.

In some other Sentai seasons I've watched, the senshis get thrown in the air, punched, slashed, blasted etc, and yet have no physical signs of injuries, not even a scratch on their bodies. I can understand that this is a superhero show, it's not even a 'realistic' show to begin with, but at least make the injuries seem more realistic...they don't have supernatural powers that heal themselves, they're still humans, they still bleed and suffer injuries, so at least try to convince the viewers that, and they did with Shinkenger and numerous other seasons.

[Mr. CD]

As for the bleeding and bandaging part...really the only times they bleed & get bandaged up is when they sustain very serious injuries....they're not machines or mutants, they are still humans, they still get hurt physically, bleeding and getting injured is normal. That's what makes the Shinkengers a bit more 'realistic' IMO, because they bleed, because they get bandaged up.

In some other Sentai seasons I've watched, the senshis get thrown in the air, punched, slashed, blasted etc, and yet have no physical signs of injuries, not even a scratch on their bodies. I can understand that this is a superhero show, it's not even a 'realistic' show to begin with, but at least make the injuries seem more realistic...they don't have supernatural powers that heal themselves, they're still humans, they still bleed and suffer injuries, so at least try to convince the viewers that, and they did with Shinkenger and numerous other seasons.
Every Sentai show feature the team getting battered and bruised, but none of Shinkenger fights came as off as really severe. It seem like one laser blast and they were done for count. It was slowly becoming a running gag.

[ShinkenW]

In reality, if it was simply just a small cut on your finger with a knife, will it bleed? Of course it will...if you accidentally bump up against something hard enough, will it cause a bruise? Yes.

I see some people complaining about the amount of times they see the Shinkengers bandaged up & bleeding and I honestly don't understand it at all...just how are their injuries "not severe" when in reality you can bleed just by a small cut to your finger or a simple scrapping to your skin against a rough surface? If you were being punched, slashed, battered, thrown around in the air and blasted in such a violent way, of course you would get sufficient injuries and will require bandaging. And these types of injuries always happen in Sentai, the Shinkengers had their fair share of very rough treatment being battered, blasted, slashed and thrown in the air so many times, and they were only bandaged up whenever their injuries were particularly severe.
I don't see how they were "not severe", the Shinkengers had suffered all the same kinds of injuries that other senshis had suffered in other seasons.

So I don't understand why these people are complaining about it...at least they're being more realistic about it with Shinkenger...I mean, do they seriously expect people to believe these senshis would get slashed, battered, blasted etc and walk away without so much as a measly scratch? That has happened in Sentai before and is downright unrealistic and unconvincing.

[Mr. CD]

Let me put this way: I found the fighting in Shinkenger extremely cartoony and unrealistic compared to some of the fights you see in, like, Bioman. There's a sense of brutality that just wasn't in the fights. Even Shinkenger's swordfights were pretty low-tension. I never expect the heroes to be impervious to pain, but the fights were not as vicious or deadly to warrant all the bedrest Shinkenger tried to imply they were.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Gedoushuu

[YellowAccel]

I really like their design. Juzo and Dayu are my favorites. I like Dayu's backstory, and Deker is a great rival for Takeru. But Dokoku is useless. And the only i really like with Shitari was in the vs when he fight the GoKaiger.

[ForeverBlue]

They were pretty cool.

[cypsiman2]

The designs were very good, and when the big guys got out onto the field themselves, they were very good. Though they could still amuse when stuck on the boat, just wish they hadn't spent quite so much time there.

[Mako]

I love Juzou and Dayu , I loved the rival Between Takeru and Juzou , i bealive Takeru wanted to save him but new Juzou was to far gone so gave him his wish, Juzou wasnt just fighting Takeru to kill him , He even saved Takeru to fight him haha, Dayu her story was soo sad, and how she ended her life was even more shocking, really loved her Rivaly with Mako,Doku i wish he did more but because he was sealed, ... yeah that was abit werd, * really i wish to find the post i saw on temox ages ago , because the designs are based of the myth ones from the sanzu river story, it was intersting and cool to see how the Shinkenger villians were designed from them , but i cant refind the post no matter where i look.

[ShinkenW]

@Mr.CD:
sure, your opinion is warranted since it's just your opinion...I personally don't see how the fights & combats in Shinkenger are any less brutal than many other seasons like Dekaranger, Magiranger, Gokaiger etc, and yet I don't see people complaining about the injuries in those seasons...btw Dekaranger had some of the most unrealistic injuries in terms of their effects on the Dekarangers...if any at all.

To me, I personally think all those complaints about the Shinkengers injuries are nonsense, since they basically suffered every type of injury common in Sentai, and yet why are some people only pointing their fingers at the Shinkengers just for being more realistic about it? :straightface: That's what I think anyway.

And with regards to you thinking the fight scenes in Shinkenger being a bit "cartoon-ish" and "unrealistic" compared to Showa seasons like Bioman...I sort of agree with you to some extent...compared to old Showa seasons like Bioman, some of the fight scenes in Shinkenger were somewhat "cartoon-ish", but so were some of the fight scenes in many other Heisei seasons too.
And the fight scenes in Sentai are somewhat merited as 'unrealistic', considering it's a superhero kids show, and not based on realistic circumstances...but that doesn't necessarily mean that the injuries inflicted in the show should be unrealistic too.

As for the Gedoushu, they're really not my fave group of villains...with the exception of Tayuu and Juzou, I think the other Gedoushu were not developed well. Doukoku was a fierce villain in terms of his incredible strength, but he was not developed well and just about all he did for the first 38 or so episodes was lazying around on his ship getting drunk & losing his temper. He only became active for the last 10 episodes.
Shitari though being the strategist, wasn't particularly smart...and Akumaro I thought was a interesting villain, I like this sense of mysteriousness he has to him, you really don't know what he's thinking or planning to do next. For me, he made a more interesting villain than Doukoku himself.

Among the Gedoushu, I like Tayuu and Juzou since they had the most character development in the series...and Akumaro was quite interesting too, with the whole mysteriousness of his character and his reckless infatuation with hell.

As for the designs of the Gedoushu, I think they are some of the coolest in Sentai...they may not be the most well-developed group of villains, but they sure look very cool.

[Mako]

and for the fighting decussion ? Shinkenger had to lower its violet sceanes after episode aired or something i heard

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Gedoushuu

They are pretty awesome i really enjoyed much the villans from Shinkenger.


As for the Gedoushu, they're really not my fave group of villains...with the exception of Tayuu and Juzou, I think the other Gedoushu were not developed well. Doukoku was a fierce villain in terms of his incredible strength, but he was not developed well and just about all he did for the first 38 or so episodes was lazying around on his ship getting drunk & losing his temper. He only became active for the last 10 episodes.
Shitari though being the strategist, wasn't particularly smart...and Akumaro I thought was a interesting villain, I like this sense of mysteriousness he has to him, you really don't know what he's thinking or planning to do next. For me, he made a more interesting villain than Doukoku himself.

Among the Gedoushu, I like Tayuu and Juzou since they had the most character development in the series...and Akumaro was quite interesting too, with the whole mysteriousness of his character and his reckless infatuation with hell.

As for the designs of the Gedoushu, I think they are some of the coolest in Sentai...they may not be the most well-developed group of villains, but they sure look very cool.

The Villans are really cool for this season, the Gedoushu as cool and we can really consider Doukuku really much powerfull and really always angry with the fails of there generals and we see him much times drunks and don do much and sometimes threats is fellow warriors.

Akumaru always shows to be more interesthing villan fo this season because we cant really find out what is planning ad he always plans in motion but keeps and fakes is loyalty to the Main Villan and i really enjoyed is plans.

Juzo as cool and a great rival for Takeru i always enjoyed the battles between Takeru and Juzo.

[KyoryuRed]

those Gedoushuu are very cool except for that octopus guy and Akumaro..

[Mr. CD]

The villains were awful, each and every one of them. Doukoku just sat there, not caring about anything going on around him, getting drunk on fermented rice. Shitari was just underutilized. Dayu just sat there acting like some raccoon eyeline teenager who listens to Dashboard Confessional. And Juuzo has to be the worst rival villain I've ever seen. He was just irrelevant to the main conflict, shows up to talk big, get his butt kicked, and makes up some excuse to end the fight: "The wind blowing your hair into your eyes cause you to get distracted. I have no interest in this fight" "Those clouds tell me it's going to rain, Shinken Red, we shall battle again when it's sunny outside" "Holy Crap! The two part season finale of American Idol is on tonight? Screw this, I'm going to get a big bag of chips and a jar to pee in. I'm staying in!" And man, I really loved how early on they gave the Ayakashi individual personalities, but then that got dropped and they later became defined by their gimmicks.

[Kaizoku Blue]

The villains were awful, each and every one of them. Doukoku just sat there, not caring about anything going on around him, getting drunk on fermented rice. Shitari was just underutilized. Dayu just sat there acting like some raccoon eyeline teenager who listens to Dashboard Confessional. And Juuzo has to be the worst rival villain I've ever seen. He was just irrelevant to the main conflict, shows up to talk big, get his butt kicked, and makes up some excuse to end the fight: "The wind blowing your hair into your eyes cause you to get distracted. I have no interest in this fight" "Those clouds tell me it's going to rain, Shinken Red, we shall battle again when it's sunny outside" "Holy Crap! The two part season finale of American Idol is on tonight? Screw this, I'm going to get a big bag of chips and a jar to pee in. I'm staying in!" And man, I really loved how early on they gave the Ayakashi individual personalities, but then that got dropped and they later became defined by their gimmicks.

Best description ever :)

I particularly dislike Dayuu or Tayuu or however they're spelling it these days. Her only purpose in the show was to sacrifice herself so that Doukoku (a thoroughly ineffective villain) could have a body for maybe an episode longer. All she ever did was moon around after Doukoku or Juuzou, or sigh about the guy whose soul she captured. And I really hate the whole "cat fight" dynamic with Mako: "look how catty and silly women are, Mako and Dayuu are about to scratch each other's eyes out again!" It's so cheap.

[Mr. White]

The villains were ok. Though i didn't really like Dayu. Juzo was my favorite.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the concept of Mojikara?

[YellowAccel]

It was a good concept. Morover it's not like the aura in Maskman, they used Mojikara many times and they really need it to defeat the gedoushou and especially Dokoku.

[Thrax]

The Power of the Mojikara as cool for they defeaded Doukuku or any of the Villans in the season.

[cypsiman2]

I liked Mojikara, it's a flexible power that can reasonably do whatever it needs to do without it ever feeling like the writers are pulling it from out of nowhere.

[ShinkenW]

Mojikara is one of the key aspects in Shinkenger in terms of the theme, it's the power manifested from written words.
Each Sentai team has their own particular source of power, and for the Shinkengers it's their mojikara power. The Shinkengers are samurais trained in the ways of tradition, calligraphy is a important part of Japanese culture & tradition and has a very long history in Japan that dates back to 600 CE, so it's only fitting that their source of power utilizes calligraphy and kanji words.

I think the power of the mojikara is incredible, once mastered, it allows the user to conjure just about ANYTHING when its kanji is written. The Shinkengers have really conjured up some impressive things using their mojikara, Takeru conjuring the horse in ep 1, a memory of a boy's grandfather in ep 4, a car in Shinkenger vs Go-onger, the Shinkengers also conjured the kage (shadows) of themselves in their senshi forms, of course it's not just all the things they conjured using written kanji, the mojikara is the source of all their senshi power. And don't forget that Genta created Daigoyou & Ebi origami with his own form of electric mojikara.

[Ryan Steele]

What did you think of the Shinkengers' roll call since it was such a departure from the elaborate ones of the recent seasons before it (e.g. Hurricanger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, and Go-Onger)?

Shinken Red, Shiba Takeru.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Blue. Ikenami Ryunosuke.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Pink. Shiraishi Mako.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Green. Tani Chiaki.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Yellow. Hanaori Kotoha.
Onajiku (Similarly/ The same) Gold. Umemori Genta.

It was cool having a green sentai again. I like seeing those colours together


What did you think of the origami being sentient and well origami?
Seperatelly as mechas they sucked in looking the most of them. Together as robo they were great


What did you think of jii?
Ji was one of the best mentors I've ever seen and he did he role perfect for training Takeru secretly.


What did you think of the Opening Theme?
It was good, reminded me OOO's theme a little bit



What did you think of the Ending Theme?
It fit well to the theme of the show but it didn't make me crazy. just ok for me



What did you think of the suits?
The suits were cool. Can't say the same for the helmets although. Shinkengold's suit by far the best!



What did you think of the cast?
Great cast used, all did their role great. Didn't like the actor who did Kotoha although


What did you think of the Gedoushuu
Very interesting villains. I liked them all


What did you think of the concept of Mojikara?
Fantastic idea, loved it!

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of the concept of Mojikara?


It was pretty interesting

[ShinkenW]

Great cast used, all did their role great. Didn't like the actor who did Kotoha although


lol are you sure it's the actress you don't like, or just the character? Because I know you don't like Kotoha...make sure you don't confuse cast with character ;)

I really don't understand why anyone would dislike Suu-chan (the actress who played Kotoha), she's so cute, you should see her outside Shinkenger, in reality she's so lovely though she's rather shy and tends to avoid being the center of attention, Suu-chan is adorable, really.

[Thrax]

lol are you sure it's the actress you don't like, or just the character? Because I know you don't like Kotoha...make sure you don't confuse cast with character ;)

I really don't understand why anyone would dislike Suu-chan (the actress who played Kotoha), she's so cute, you should see her outside Shinkenger, in reality she's so lovely though she's rather shy and tends to avoid being the center of attention, Suu-chan is adorable, really.

She is very cute for shore i really notace that, but i really enjoyed much of the Goakiger yellow ranger she is great.

[KyoryuRed]

What did you think of the concept of Mojikara?

it was pretty amazing!

[Kaizoku Blue]

lol are you sure it's the actress you don't like, or just the character? Because I know you don't like Kotoha...make sure you don't confuse cast with character ;)

I really don't understand why anyone would dislike Suu-chan (the actress who played Kotoha), she's so cute, you should see her outside Shinkenger, in reality she's so lovely though she's rather shy and tends to avoid being the center of attention, Suu-chan is adorable, really.

The thing is that Shinkenger didn't give her much of a chance to shine. She could be very talented, I don't know (I don't follow her outside of Shinkenger), but really anyone could have played Kotoha because all she had to do for most of the show was look cute. That was almost her entire purpose up until around episode 36 when she finally started to get some character development. It was too little too late, she was easily the most overlooked of the Rangers.

I do think that over the course of the show the actress got better during dramatic scenes

[ShinkenW]

^well I sort of disagree with you about Kotoha...she had some focus long before ep 36...I think her character development started very early into the series, remember ep 6 when she had to go up against that Ayakash Zuboshimeshi, that was the first time we got to know more about her character and the many years of psychological torment and struggles she had to face growing up. It was also the first time in so many years she finally opened up her eyes about her faults...that episode was really the first stage into her character development I think.

The part about her character "easily being the most overlooked" is really subjective because we all have different opinions. I don't think she was easily overlooked at all, in fact, she was one of the characters that caught my attention very early on in the series, not because she's cute, but because of her backstory and her troubled childhood and the way she handles all her troubles.

To me, I actually think Ryunosuke had less of a character development than Kotoha...the only times we truly see any sort of development for him was ep 35 and ep 47 when he struggled to deal with his feelings about Takeru & his loyalty to his lord after Kaoru's appearance.
And Genta barely had any, he mainly served as comedic relief for much of the series.

Suu-chan was only 16 when she acted in Shinkenger and Kotoha was her first ever acting role, but her acting gradually improved during the course of the series.

[Mako]

I think Kotoha got alot of focus she had 20 and 22 as her episodes, on main focus but one thing that anoyed me was the 41 filler it was in the wrong place .. i mean 41 and she was feeling like she was a replacement to her Sister , after everything they been through she was douting herself and that becuase she wasnt the orginal Shinkenger , her sister was it .. it just felt out of place and she should of had that episode alot eailer

[Mr. Pink]

I think Mako is more underdeveloped than Kotoha... Kotoha grows over the course of the season and we can see it unlike Mako...

Modikara was interesting too bad they didn't utilize it more

[Mr. CD]

I found all of the Shinkenger, save Ryuunosuke, to be weak in the character development department since all their focus episodes did nothing excep repeat the same things about the characters we already knew by the fifth episode. Takeru's cold and all business with daddy issues, but we'll learn deep down that he cares and is soft -- we know this. Mako wants to be a housewife, so she'll be there to mother a group member. Chiaki's a prickish slacker, but will learn his lesson -- until the next episode. Kotoha makes a mistake and spends the episode whining about how dumb she is, until one of the team members convinces her otherwise. Genta's a spaz, but is skilled and can prove himself. On and on, in circles. Ryunnosuke was the only one to avoid this because, while a lot of his episodes at their core are about how he's real dedicated to his job, they at least varied it up a bit.

[Mr. White]

Mojikara was an interesting thing to add. I'm glad they showed that the Shinkengers had limited ability while using it than an infinite amount of energy.

[Mr. Pink]

I feel like Mako's only good moment was her focus with her parents

[White Wind]

The thing is that Shinkenger didn't give her much of a chance to shine. She could be very talented, I don't know (I don't follow her outside of Shinkenger), but really anyone could have played Kotoha because all she had to do for most of the show was look cute. That was almost her entire purpose up until around episode 36 when she finally started to get some character development. It was too little too late, she was easily the most overlooked of the Rangers.

I do think that over the course of the show the actress got better during dramatic scenesI agree about her character getting neglected to a certain extent (Kotoha is my favorite Shinkenger but I saw the flaws).
Out of all the Shinkengers her storyline paralleled Takeru's but they never got a chance to come together and talk about that. She saw her self as just her sister's substitute but what he was and how he carried himself should have inspired her to greatness but in the finale movie and in the versus movie . . . Kotoha seemed to have reverted instead of grown.

They let her declare to Mako to lean on her for support, Mako did for a second and then continued to treat her like before and Kotoha was content to fall into the same pattern, and only realized it was the same pattern episodes later in 41.

She had to share her episodes with one of the guys and almost always was outshined. The episode where she finally gets to turn to super shinkenyellow, Genta steals the show. I actually feel that should have been an episode where Shinkengold got to go super and that they hoarded Kotoha's super mode until 41 because that was all Super ShinkenYellow.

Even she saw she wasn't being treated seriously in 41 but somehow the episode got derailed into a letter about her sister. There was a reason why she only started seeing her self as the substitute again but that was never addressed.

I think that she is classic case of wasted potential but there is one in every Sentai season that I have seen(Actually I see Shinkenger itself as wasted potential).

I would not say that anyone could have played the role because there was just something about Suzuka that spoke to my heart. And there were things about kotoha that was amazing and the reason why I love her so much. Her empathy for Takeru and then for Kaoru being one of those reasons. She was also a great Shinkenger.

[Mako]

Kotoha was probaly the most developed after Takeru even though she was 5th come on ! she got to use both the big weapens one with Takeru and the Bozooka on her own ! Kotoha had alot of episodes that made her shrine, and Mako shared her super with genta to ? both girls had to share their super moment with genta which i didnt get but then , yeah , like i said just wish 41 was eariler

[ShinkenW]

I agree with you Mako, I felt there was a lot of focus & development for Kotoha...at least more than how much Ryunosuke, Mako & Genta had. For being the 2nd and 3rd Shinkengers in the line-up, their character developments were weak, Mako in particular really didn't have much at all. They left Ryunosuke's development to the very end, and Genta's was almost non-existent.
By the end of the series, these 3 were pretty much still the same as they were in the beginning...except Ryunosuke by then had learned to acknowledge his one true lord with his heart, not his head.

I think in terms of character development, Chiaki's transformation is probably the most drastic, we all saw how much he changed & matured and how much stronger he's become as a samurai & Shinkenger, and he changed very early on in the series. Out of all the main characters, Chiaki's development was one of the strongest...but although he had a lot of focus quite early in the series, he had virtually none after ep 27. But that's quite alright because by then his character had already developed well.
Kotoha underwent her own transformation as well, by the end, she became a lot more confident in herself as a person and as a samurai & Shinkenger after she was finally able to let go of all the notion about her being her sister's replacement and finally being able to accept herself as the true ShinkenYellow.

But I do think that overall, the other Shinkengers didn't have as much focus as some would want for them, but because Shinkenger is mainly based on the Shiba family, Takeru had much of the focus in the series.

And I agree with White Wind about Suu-chan, there's just something about her that appeals to me, and it's not just because she's adorable, there's something about her, I felt she really channeled into Kotoha and brought her alive on the screen as she portrayed her, and she was really able to emphasize on all of Kotoha's personal struggles. I don't think Kotoha can be played by just "anyone", the character came with its challenges and Suu-chan handled the role very well.

But Mako is your typical level-headed 'big sister' type of role that really did not have much development at all, I think she could've been portrayed by any actress. Although Takanashi Rin did a good job with the role.

[Ryan Steele]

Why I think that happened to Kotoha and not the others? It pissed me off how late she became likeable to me. Maybe Mako for example had less focus episodes but they were anough to make me love her. I am not sure if it was writter's mistake I didn't like Kotoha's shy character or just her acting looked sucking to my eyes. The boys for me had perfect character development, so much that it was hard for me to pick my favourite one!
Especially if I compare them with PRS...

[Kaizoku Blue]

The thing about Samurai is that I think the character types from Shinkenger could have been used pretty much straight (with a few tweaks) for the girls, and not come across as dull or sexist. But it wasn't done right. I'll save that for another thread.

Kotoha's feelings about being compared to her sister weren't fully explored until later in the show. But at least up to the halfway point, all we really knew was that she had experienced a lot of bullying and had a huge inferiority complex. I'd have appreciated more insight into why Ryuunosuke is the way he is (all we get is that "father complex" line) but no one seems to care about that, he probably gets less respect from fandom than any other character in the show

[Ryan Steele]

wow does he? For me he was one of the best blue sentai ever,lol
Loved his jokes, his sword and his Kabuki skills. I must be in the minority of fans who liked him I guess. Weird all my friends in Greece who watched Shinkenger loved him as well

[ShinkenW]

well we all have different opinions, I love Kotoha from the very beginning, she's one of the characters that caught my attention straight away, because of her traumatic past & backstory, she is the kind of character that anyone can relate to who have also been bullied in their lives. Because Kotoha had such a tough childhood and complexity with her character with all those inner demons she had to face mentally, for me, she is much more interesting than Mako, Ryunosuke & Genta...because these 3 had so little development if any, they're really not that interesting to me frankly, even though I do think they're still likable characters.

I'm glad that Kotoha is one of the more popular characters in this season, and it's not just because she's cute...anyone who thinks the only reason people like Kotoha is because she's cute cannot be more wrong.
Frankly, if Kotoha barely had any development, and all she ever did in this series was look cute, then I would not like her much either. But I do love Kotoha, and it's mainly because of her backstory, traumatic past, her mental struggles & selflessness. Heck, I would still love her if her character looked ugly, just as long as she retains her traumatic backstory and psychological characteristics.

Suu-chan really played Kotoha very well, I believe she portrayed the role just as the character is suppose to be.

[Kaizoku Blue]

Kotoha is probably one of my favourite of the cast (I like her more than Mako, Chiaki and Ryuunosuke.) I just wish the writers had shown her a bit more consideration.

[YellowAccel]

wow does he? For me he was one of the best blue sentai ever,lol
Loved his jokes, his sword and his Kabuki skills. I must be in the minority of fans who liked him I guess. Weird all my friends in Greece who watched Shinkenger loved him as well

Agree he is my favorite blue senshi and most of the fan i know love him too.

[Thrax]

The Characters of Shinkenger were really well accepted because Shinkenger as one of the Best Sentais and really much sucess in Japan and i think the viewes ca nbe related with some of them.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?

[White Wind]

Time to defend Miss Mako, a bit. I think they did a great job with her and she is not just the' lady who wanted to be a housewife'. She was a teacher so you knew from the beginning that she was going to be the one that held the group together and so it would not make sense to get too much character development for someone who was already developed great to begin with.

I do think it was pretty clever how they gave her that conflict with her dad. The others were used to seeing Mako be this independent woman but she was, also, a lost daughter and they saw a new side to her and it was so emotional and not so unattainable. She is the most mature of the group and people say that Takeru is up there in maturity with her but he actually proved to be the most immature of them all so no one holds that candle with her. She was trained as a samurai but had enough modern thinking to look outside of the box and see something was not quite right with Takeru. Now I wish she would have shared her misgivings with the group but I think that only Chiaki would have listened to her and him carrying that story with her would have been a lot more interesting for me because they had such great chemistry.

Her character arc took a different turn with the arrival of her father. Her number one thing wasn't rushing to find a husband and start a family, anymore, because after that episode she wanted to rush to her parents and build a relationship/family with them that had been broken.

Only thing I really find uninteresting about her was the arc with Dayuu. The writers just didn't do a good job with that at all. It started out great but fizzled out and I don't understand why. But they seemed too busy making bad filler episodes.

I agree that she, too, had to carry her episodes with the guys but I guess it wasn't so derailing because she had such a big personality. Kotoha's personality was easily overshadowed by everyone. >.>

Edit: I can't see anyone else as Mako either. Rin or no one!!

[cypsiman2]

Personally I think Mako and Kotoha were strong and well characterized, even if Mako's rivalry with Dayuu wasn't all that it could have been and Kotoha's deal with her sister was dragged out too long. Ryuunosuke and Genta were always funny, Chiaki was okay, and Takeru...he grew on me. I just didn't care for how in the first bunch of episodes he was pretty much invincible and always right about everything; Jii tells him in the first episode that he needs to call upon the others, but from what we see that just wasn't the case at the time, he was doing fine taking on the Gedoushu alone.

Anyway! ShinkenOh is a very nice mecha, but Tenkuu ShinkenOh is UGLY!

[YellowAccel]

What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?

Shinkenoh is the only mecha i like in Shinkenger.

[Kaizoku Blue]

Mako bored me. Her character type doesn't appeal to me (seen it too many times when I had a thing for harem anime a few years ago) and I didn't like the way she was so nosy and insistent, always knowing better than Takeru. I'm not saying she's stupid because she's a girl or whatever, just that it looks bad to have the hero keep getting shown up by someone that's supposed to be subordinate to him. Chiaki did this quite often too ...

... Am I the only one that likes Tenkuu ShinkenOh? :(

[ShinkenW]

Kotoha's personality was easily overshadowed by everyone. >.>

that's mainly due to Kotoha's rather shy & quieter personality, she's like the little sister type who follows the others, though that doesn't necessarily make her a overshadowed character overall. In terms of complexity of the characters, IMO Kotoha was a more complexed character than Mako, Ryunosuke, Genta and Chiaki, because of Kotoha's troubled past & inner demons she was facing mentally...but due to her more quiet personality, she's often overshadowed by the others because of their more outgoing & bigger personalities.
But as a character overall, with all her complexes regarding her difficult childhood and psychological traumas, Kotoha makes a more interesting character than much of the others to me.

as for the mechas, I like the earliest mechas they had...ShinkenOh, including its Tora, Kabuto & Kajiki add-ons, DaiTenku & Tenku-ShinkenOh, my favorite is probably their first and basic mecha ShinkenOh. I don't really like any of the subsequent mechas they had later on, though I don't dislike them either...except for that clusterf*ck SamuraiHaOh of course, I detest it.



... Am I the only one that likes Tenkuu ShinkenOh? :(

no you're not the only one, I like Tenku-ShinkenOh too...bravo Ryunosuke for coming up with that concept :D

[Mako]

Same ! i think the Girls got great chacter building !hmm i cant think of who got the less, cause Ryunosuke was already devoleped, but what do you mean Mako and CHiaki had great Chemestry together ? Mako was Like Chiaki's older Sister , hence him calling her Big Sister to ?

[White Wind]

Kaizoku Blue, I do agree that Mako and Chiaki was insubordinate, at times. I have this feeling that Mako knew something was wrong with Takeru from the moment she heard his speech to them in the first episode and acted accordingly. Chiaki is just rude. He's the one I didn't like and it stems from him pushing Alata in the versus movie. He was a rude little jerk that was never truly put in his place. I wish Kaoru would have done so but she didn't have enough time. He needed to be slapped with her fan just as much as Tanba if she got a chance to be in his presence more. :mad:

Edit:
Same ! i think the Girls got great chacter building !hmm i cant think of who got the less, cause Ryunosuke was already devoleped, but what do you mean Mako and CHiaki had great Chemestry together ? Mako was Like Chiaki's older Sister , hence him calling her Big Sister to ? When I say chemistry I don't mean the romantic sort. I mean the way the played off each other as bro/sis. Almost like they were on the outside looking in on chaos. It would have been interesting him them coming up with reasons why Takeru was the way he was and did the things that he did. His personality would have made the storyline less dry.

[Kaizoku Blue]

Regarding Chiaki and Mako - in Shinkenger Returns, Chiaki envisioned her as the sexy woman in his dream sequence. But then he's a teenage boy ... ;) all girls all the time

[Mako]

HAHA ! oh god don't remind me i was rewatching V Cinimea yesterday and was crying with laughter

[White Wind]

Regarding Chiaki and Mako - in Shinkenger Returns, Chiaki envisioned her as the sexy woman in his dream sequence. But then he's a teenage boy ... ;) all girls all the timeA sexy woman he apparently wanted to be dominated by. XD I disliked Shinkenger Returns but that part was funny.

[Kaizoku Blue]

HAHA ! oh god don't remind me i was rewatching V Cinimea yesterday and was crying with laughter

I know a lot of people don't like it because it was pretty silly compared to the TV show, but I love it. It cracks me up every time :)

[ShinkenW]

Chiaki is just rude. He's the one I didn't like and it stems from him pushing Alata in the versus movie. He was a rude little jerk that was never truly put in his place.

I can understand why some people were pissed off at Chiaki pushing Arata, I do think he went a bit too far there...but I don't think he's overall a jerk or rude character...he certainly was very immature and rather rude in the beginning, but throughout the series, he has shown his good side. He only reacts negatively towards people when they aggravate him, or when he's in a bad mood...but don't we all have those moments? In all honesty, I can be rather b*tchy myself when I'm in a bad mood XD

Chiaki was in a really bad mood at the time because Takeru had been brainwashed & turned into a Gedou, so both he and Ryunosuke were very distraught at the time, their behaviors at the time was understandable considering the circumstances.
But hey, Chiaki did apologize to the Goseigers later on and they resolved their differences...even though he had initially apologized with Kotoha's encouragement, I believe he was sincere about his apologies.

[White Wind]

^^I wanted a personal apology to the one he pushed and none of the apologies he made satisfied me. It just soured the character to me and actually I can count the times he probably been hit by Karou's fan within the series if she had been there longer. He and Tanba would have many war stories to tell from that fan. XD

[ShinkenW]

^whether you were satisfied or not, Chiaki obviously was remorseful for how he had treated the Goseigers before, and I believe his remorse was genuine, that's why he apologized and I believe he was sincere about it, signifying that it wasn't his usual behavior. Otherwise he wouldn't have been on good terms with the Goseigers afterwards, and they obviously had forgave him.

[White Wind]

Well I look at it this way. He learned a respect for the red ranger because of Takeru and he would have had a fit if someone had pushed Takeru liked this. It never should have happened in the first place so even if he was remorseful or not it does little to placate me. The Goseigers were nice, to a fault, so them forgiving him doesn't mean I have to.

Edit: But I probably will eventually. >.<

[Mako]

Like ShinkenEarth said, Alata saying everything will be all right in a smily happy way after the Guy He thinks like his Own Brother just got captured by the opposite teams baddie and the team has no idea where he is, can get anyone riled, they dont have any idea of who they are and this random guy who they only just met is all bubbly and smiley ( Which i hate ) * Chiaki thought he was taking the mic and like She said, * anyone in that siduation can over the top in anger

[Kaizoku Blue]

It's not a crime to be bubbly and smiley :gosred:

I can see why Chiaki was upset, but being happy isn't a bad thing!

[White Wind]

Yeah, I understood why Chiaki was upset, I never said I didn't, but he never should have put him hands on Alata.

Edit: I hated Alata a first but he won my respect with how great of a fighter he was. That entire situation shows of how a big/great guy he was. He could have kicked the crap out Chiaki, for pushing him, but because he was the type of that he was he let it go, saved the day and came out looking the better man.

[Thrax]

I really liked great Mechas !!!

[ShinkenW]

I honestly think it's harsh to dislike a character just because he has done ONE thing to upset you...I know a few others who really dislike Chiaki just because he pushed Arata, like it's the only reason they dislike him, seriously? Chiaki did it in the heat of the moment, can anyone really blame him for it considering the state of mind he was in at the time?

What if the situation was reversed and Arata was the one who was brainwashed and sunk to a Gedou, all the Goseigers were distraught and the Shinkengers tried to comfort them, Kotoha was trying hard to be positive & cheerful giving words of encouragement to everyone, or Takeru doing the encouraging, then one of the Goseigers gets pissed and pushes one of the Shinkengers? Wouldn't people get pissed at that Goseiger member too? But they were simply very distraught...would you condemn that character overall just for that one incident? Even if he is normally a good and friendly character?

This is just how I see things regarding the Chiaki pushing Arata thing...Chiaki normally doesn't behave that way in the series, at least not when he's in his normal state of mind...but some people are condemning his character overall just because of that one incident with Arata. I mean, I could understand if Chiaki's attitude was like that all the time in the series, but it wasn't, and he's shown a lot of his good side in the series.

People can do much worse things when they're in a bad mood or very distraught...you can really hurt someone when you're not in your right mind...for example, I know someone who once pushed her sister down the stairs when she was very distraught, her sister ended up with a broken leg. But she wasn't like this most of the time, she's a good person when she's in her normal state of mind...but she tends to get very uncharacteristic when she's out of her right mind.

At least Chiaki didn't punch Arata in the face, if he had done that, then I would get really pissed too.

Don't get me wrong I'm not pointing this at you specifically White Wind...you are not the first person I've come across who is pissed off at Chiaki for the Arata incident...my point is that there are some people I've come across who seem to only dislike Chiaki for pushing Arata, they don't state any other reason for their dislike for him, and I just think that's a bit harsh to condemn him for ONE incident that happened when he was not in his right mind at the time.

This is just my 2 cents...

[Mr. White]

Shinkenoh was pretty cool. Tenkuu was alright.

[Ryan Steele]

What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?

Shinkenoh was pretty good looking robo, one of the best I've seen. Tenkuu Shinkenoh was ugly on the other hand

[KyoryuRed]

^same here. glad that Tenkuu was not in Gokaiger!

[ShinkenW]

^they didn't use any original mechas from the previous seasons for Gokaiger...only in the 199 movie, but even so, they only used the most basic mechas from each season.

I agree Tenku-ShinkenOh doesn't look good, but I think it's still a pretty cool mecha considering what it can do, and since it's a formation with DaiTenku and ShinkenOh, it utilizes the powers of the Tora, Kabuto & Kajiki as well, so it's a significant upgrade to the ShinkenOh.

[ForeverBlue]

What did you think of Shinkenoh and Tenkuu Shinkenoh?

They were pretty cool!

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Kurokos?

[YellowAccel]

I can't say i was interested by them lol

[Ryan Steele]

Kurokos were awesome working in the shadows for shinkenger, loved them:D
So cool when they were playing drums for the intro of shinkenger/change of clothes

[Digifiend]

^they didn't use any original mechas from the previous seasons for Gokaiger...only in the 199 movie, but even so, they only used the most basic mechas from each season.GaoLion says otherwise.

[YellowAccel]

And PatStriker, and Super Live Robo

[KyoryuRed]

Kurokos are very cool. too bad it was not used in PR Samurai.. look at Time Force, Overdrive and RPM, thery have a butler!

[cypsiman2]

The Kuroko were great, a wonderful play on the whole world being a stage and all that.

[Thrax]

What did you think of the Kurokos?

It as really interesthing for Shinkenger !!

[Kaizoku Blue]

I think they were an interesting feature of the show

[Mr. White]

The Kurukos were cool. I always liked the uniforms they wore.

[ShinkenW]

What did you think of the Kurokos?

love them! Although they're servants to the Shiba family, and most of the time they work and handle the daily chores in silence, but it feels like they're still a part of the Shiba family and part of the Shinkenger family. And I like how they always accompany the Shinkengers on their roll call, they are one of the reasons that makes the Shinkenger roll call so unique and traditional. And they help them to evacuate any civilians in the area.

Overall although these kurokos work in the background, they still play a significant role in the series, and I think the kurokos are very cute and humorous sometimes.
Shinkenger just would not be the same without the kurokos, and I don't think I would love it as much as I do if they didn't exist in the series either...of course there are so many reasons why I love Shinkenger, and the kurokos are one of those reasons...so without them, it just wouldn't be the same and I don't believe I would love it as much either.


GaoLion says otherwise.


And PatStriker, and Super Live Robo

I was referring to the giant combination mechas; ShinkenOh, Dekaranger Robo, MagiKing etc...I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Of course they used a couple of mechas from the original seasons like GaoLion & PatStriker, but I was specifically referring to the giant combination mechas, meaning the robos, I have my own way of calling the robos, and I just call them 'giant mechas'.

My point is that they did not use any of the original giant mechas in Gokaiger because whatever power from the previous team is used, is combined with GokaiOh to form whatever-GokaiOh. They only used the original giant mechas in the 199 movie, and even so, they only used the very basic giant mechas from each season...so of course Tenku-ShinkenOh did not make an appearance in Gokaiger or the 199 movie, and I don't think it would've either.

[Digifiend]

And PatStriker, and Super Live RoboUnlike GaoLion, those aren't the originals. PatStriker is a recreation with new weapons and a new paint job, and Super Live Robo was actually a GokaiOh projection, like DaiBouken.

[Mr. CD]

I honestly never saw the point of them still wearing those veils were they're outside of the Mansion. I know Kurokos are suppose to be invisible helpers, but when you're helping someone carry their groccies or fix their car, then you're not being invisible.

[Mr. Pink]

^its actually creepier as anyone can pretend to be a kuroko then

[Digifiend]

^Including Tsukasa Kadoya. :decade:

[Thrax]

love them! Although they're servants to the Shiba family, and most of the time they work and handle the daily chores in silence, but it feels like they're still a part of the Shiba family and part of the Shinkenger family. And I like how they always accompany the Shinkengers on their roll call, they are one of the reasons that makes the Shinkenger roll call so unique and traditional. And they help them to evacuate any civilians in the area.

Overall although these kurokos work in the background, they still play a significant role in the series, and I think the kurokos are very cute and humorous sometimes.
Shinkenger just would not be the same without the kurokos, and I don't think I would love it as much as I do if they didn't exist in the series either...of course there are so many reasons why I love Shinkenger, and the kurokos are one of those reasons...so without them, it just wouldn't be the same and I don't believe I would love it as much either.

The Kurokos have the own role in the season and is good to see them help in the daily life inside of the Shiba house because they help the Shinkengers and in the roll call the yare great because fits in the atmosphere of Shinkenger and is kind of cute and whe nthey have humors situations and dont talks about just are there to help the Shinkenger in all they do even in the Battlefield more in Roll Call.


I was referring to the giant combination mechas; ShinkenOh, Dekaranger Robo, MagiKing etc...I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Of course they used a couple of mechas from the original seasons like GaoLion & PatStriker, but I was specifically referring to the giant combination mechas, meaning the robos, I have my own way of calling the robos, and I just call them 'giant mechas'.

My point is that they did not use any of the original giant mechas in Gokaiger because whatever power from the previous team is used, is combined with GokaiOh to form whatever-GokaiOh. They only used the original giant mechas in the 199 movie, and even so, they only used the very basic giant mechas from each season...so of course Tenku-ShinkenOh did not make an appearance in Gokaiger or the 199 movie, and I don't think it would've either.

The Mechas is another reason of the Shinkenger is sow great because since much time we dont see sow really great Mechas and obvius in Shinkenger the Mechas as awesome and in the Gokaiger or the 199 movie they really just one the Original Mechas.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Genta/Shinken Gold?

[Thrax]

Genta as pretty funny and i really enjoyed is introduced in Shinkenger and the suit is great !!!

[cypsiman2]

Genta was hilarious and he'd obviously watched every Jim Carrey movie fifty times each in preparation for his appearance on the show, perfect mugging for the camera.

[Ryan Steele]

Genta was funny and badass as well. I loved it that he was so different from Antonio (who I like too)

[YellowAccel]

I don't hate or love Genta. He was funny though. And as much as i hate samurai i prefer Antonio. But i don't like his suit.

[Mr. Pink]

So much better than Antonio... I hated Genta at first but he really grew on you once you realize how flat most of the others remained for the rest of the season

[KyoryuRed]

Genta is funny and very better than Antonio

[Mr. CD]

Oh Genta, you were an interesting idea terribly executed. First off, he's introduce as Comic Relief, which was pointless since the show already had a comic relief character anyway in Ryuunosuke (and to some extent, Chiaki) so it was pointless to throw in another one. Second, they had him there to help Takeru open up with his vassel, except Takeru was doing that without Genta's help. so bye bye that purpose. After that, they just had him there to give the show more Bandai crap they didn't need. And the worst part? I would actually be more forgiving of him if he wasn't played by one of the worser actors in recent years.

[Ryan Steele]

One thing that pisses me off is that some people compare Genta with Gai. Completelly different characters, it's wrong to compare them

[Kaizoku Blue]

One thing that pisses me off is that some people compare Genta with Gai. Completelly different characters, it's wrong to compare them

I think I may be in love with you :)

I like Genta a lot. I just wish they hadn't kept sending him off to run his sushi stand during important battles

[Mr. White]

Genta was alright. He was funny, but he got pretty annoying at times.

[Mako]

I don't like hyperactive Characters normally in Sentai but i Loved Genta :)!

[ShinkenW]

I love Genta! He's so funny, goofy & lovable :D usually I don't like these sort of OTT characters, but Genta is an exception, and Ryunosuke too even though he's over-dramatic.

I agree that Genta really didn't serve any purpose in the series besides being the comedic relief...Ryunosuke used to serve that purpose, but ever since Genta appeared, Ryunosuke took the back seat for that role.
Anyway, back to Genta...he first appeared to help Takeru and help him open up to others, and yes, Takeru was in the process of that even before Genta appeared...but I think with Genta's appearance, he sort of speeded up that process for Takeru, I mean, having his childhood best friend around to help, it helped Takeru to open up a bit quicker.

I think Sohma Keisuke did a good job with Genta, in reality he's actually much more quiet and calm, so suddenly having to play a role that's like the opposite to how he is in real-life, he did well...I think he really channeled into the character and his acting just seemed to play out naturally when he's in the role. I really cannot picture any other actor playing Genta as well as Keisuke did :D in fact, I really cannot picture any other actor in the role at all.

As for the Genta vs Gai comparison...yes they are 2 different characters, but they have very similar personalities, so I'm not surprised that they are often compared with each other. I mean, if we didn't know, they both could've fooled me into believing they're brothers!

[Ryan Steele]

Genta passed some serious messages to people. Like that episode when he realised he was better in something else instead his dream but at the end he continued following his dream. It made me think a lot that episode.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Ika Origami, Ebi Origami, and Daikaioh?

[Ryan Steele]

They were all cool and good looking

[cypsiman2]

I didn't care for any of Genta's mecha.

[Thrax]

Really awesome i always loved the changes of modes.

[YellowAccel]

Like i said exept Shinken-oh i don't like the mecha.

[KyoryuRed]

They all were awesome. nice designs out there kinda..

[Mr. White]

They were pretty cool.

[Mr. Pink]

I hated them as genta is a samurai of light for ika but his suit matches ebi. I didn't like the design or color motif of either

[ShinkenW]

What did you think of Ika Origami, Ebi Origami, and Daikaioh?

I like the Ika and Ebi origamis...as for DaiKaiOh, I like its abilities changing into 4 different modes each representing north, south, east and west, and each mode having different weapons & capabilities, I thought that was a interesting concept....but the mecha itself looks a bit ugly IMO.


I hated them as genta is a samurai of light for ika but his suit matches ebi. I didn't like the design or color motif of either

well...Ika was Genta's "original" origami, but once Ebi became mobile, I think it became Genta's primary origami since he had created it himself and he piloted DaiKaiOh that was formed from Ebi origami. Afterwards, Ika became sort of like just a support origami to Genta...a bit like how Tora origami was to Takeru.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the crossover with Decade?

[Mako]

I loved the crossover because it wasnt just funny and awesome at the fight sceanes, it had a very important message with the family aspects, they were just the best ;D !

[YellowAccel]

The crossover was pretty good. It was cool to see the 2 franchises together and the fight scene were awesome.

[Ryan Steele]

The crossover was awesome and a dream coming true. I wish all kamen riders were having crossovers. I will never forget the phrase "If a world doesn't have a Kamen Rider a Kamen Rider is created"

[cypsiman2]

The crossover got me interested in Kamen Rider, so it did its job I suppose.

[Thrax]

It as really cool that crossover between Shinkenger and Kamem Rider

[Digifiend]

The crossover got me interested in Kamen Rider, so it did its job I suppose.Same here. Shinkenger was my first Super Sentai, so I watched the Shinkenger episodes of Decade, then went back and watched the rest of it.

Speaking of which, Decade 24 is back up on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POQ9hicsKhY).

[Mr. CD]

I wasn't a fan of how one-sided it was. But on the otherhand, it featured the only time Jii was ever cool in my eyes.

[Mr. Pink]

i liked the crossover... it got me back into decade after i gave up... to this day decade is the only one ive watched to the end

[Mr. White]

I liked it. Got me interested in Kamen Rider.

[ShinkenW]

I really liked the crossover...it got me into watching Decade, which became the first KR season I completed (though it's W and Kabuto that actually got me hooked on KR).

It's not just the fact that it was the first time both Sentai and KR teamed up that made the crossover exciting, I like how the ep was not entirely focused on the crossover, it also touched on family bonds to an extent as well...it emphasized on Hikoma's fatherly-like bond with the Shinkengers, and Natsumi's bond with her grandfather.

However one thing I thought they could've improved on was increasing the screen time for the Decade characters in Shinkenger...the Shinkengers had heaps of focus in the Shinkenger arc in Decade, which is expected because Tsukasa traveled into their world, so the Shinkengers became the main focal point in the arc. But the Decade characters had barely any screen time in Shinkenger during the crossover.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Juuzo's and Dayuu's backstories?

[YellowAccel]

I like their backstory especially Dayuu's backstory. The flashback was awesome. It was sad and i think the actress who played her human form did a great job.

[Ryan Steele]

they both kept my interest of the show in high levels

[KyoryuRed]

The crossover with Decade was awesome.

[cypsiman2]

They were both very nice, tragic backstories that were very in tune to the theme and tone of the series.

[Thrax]

Juzo and Dayu backstories make them a really interesthing charathers more they here in Shinkenger.

[Mr. Pink]

I liked juuzos but didn't really like dayus... I actually like how prs kinda combined them better

[Thrax]

^

Mee too there own stories connected with "Akumaru/Serrator" in PRS.

[ForeverBlue]

I'm slipping again lol


What did you think of the Kurokos?

They were interesting


What did you think of Genta/Shinken Gold?

Pretty cool and funny


What did you think of Ika Origami, Ebi Origami, and Daikaioh?

They were great


What did you think of the crossover with Decade?

It was alright...didn't care much for it.


What did you think of Juuzo's and Dayuu's backstories?

Interesting

[Mr. White]

I loved Juzo's back story. Dayu's was ok.

[Digifiend]

I liked juuzos but didn't really like dayus... I actually like how prs kinda combined them betterOf course that was done because Juzo's backstory was pretty much unadaptable due to the Never Say Die trope. I did like Juzo's story, but it was definitely too mature for Power Rangers, no surprise that Deker's was changed.

As for Dayu, hers was meh, but it did at least give Mako some focus. Of course, husband's soul in the shamisen also wouldn't have washed in the US, hence why Deker was made PRS!Dayu's hubby instead.

[Mr. Pink]

i liked the prs version because it brought in a different take of romance in the pr universe, instead of a couple being torn apart and it being good vs evil, they were both turned evil even though only one was willing. in shinkenger they were both twisted to some degree already which makes the viewer have less sympathy

[Mr. CD]

Aww, am I the only one who liked Dayuu's backstory? It's not ever day the prostitute gets to be the killer (Yes, you read that right. They don't outright say it, duh, but the hints were there).

[ShinkenW]

like I pointed out before, Tayu and Juuzo's backstories was what made them more interesting villains to me than Doukoku and Shitari...then again, the only reason these 2 are the only villains whose past and backstories were explored in the season is because they're both once humans but sunk down to Gedou...so that makes them more interesting.

The other villains in this season like Doukoku and Akumaro are 2 dimensional, there's no backstory to them...though Akumaro's mysteriousness and reckless infatuation with hell made him more interesting to me than Doukoku and Shitari.
Shitari was a waste and Doukoku was boring, the only thing that's remotely interesting about him is his incredible physical strength.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of the Inromaru, Super Shinkenger, DaikaiShinkenoh, and the "death" of Juuzo?

[YellowAccel]

I never really like the Super Shinkenger/Inromaru. After all it's just a jacket. Don't like the DaikaiShinkenoh as well. The fight between Juzo and Takeru was pretty good.

[ForeverBlue]

The jackets were alright. The DaikaiShinkenoh was pretty cool. The fight between Juzo and Takeru was pretty interesting.

[Ryan Steele]

Inromaru and Super Shinkenger mode were totally awesome. I loved it that all had different special attacks with them!
DaikaiShinkenoh was nice mecha combination. Juuzo's death was a really epic moment of the show and forever rememberable to me

[cypsiman2]

Inromaru, Super Shinkenger, and DaikaiShinkenoh are okay. The way Takeru "killed" Juuzo was pretty cool though.

[Thrax]

Inromaru and Super Shinknger as awesome, Daikaishinkenoh as great and Takeru "killed" Juzo as awesome the battle as pretty epic.

[Mr. Pink]

didnt like daikai.... the inromaru was good though the super disk confused me... there were at least 9 origami but only eight slots (shishi, ryu, kame, kuma, saru, kabuto, kajiki, tora, and ika) not to mention the various incomplete and forgotten (kyoryu, ushi) or brand new (ebi)

the super shinkenger were interesting though it would have been more interesting to see them all do it as a team like in gosei vs shinken but during the finale since they had the duplication disk

[KyoryuRed]

The jackets were alright. The DaikaiShinkenoh was pretty cool. The fight between Juzo and Takeru was pretty interesting.

same here lol the jackets don't look bad..

[ShinkenW]

didnt like daikai.... the inromaru was good though the super disk confused me... there were at least 9 origami but only eight slots (shishi, ryu, kame, kuma, saru, kabuto, kajiki, tora, and ika) not to mention the various incomplete and forgotten (kyoryu, ushi) or brand new (ebi)

because they have so many origamis, they can't possibly all be included on the Super disk...my guess is that the disk was probably originally only to accommodate the 5 primary origamis (Shishi, Ryu, Saru, Kuma and Kame) and the first 3 support origamis (Tora, Kabuto & Kajiki), hence why there's 8 slots on the disk for those 8 origamis.
But since it was Genta who completed the Inromaru, he also wanted to include his Ebi origami...when he told Hikoma about it, Hikoma even warned him not to overdo it...so clearly using the mojikara of those 8 origamis was really enough...I'm not sure whether Genta ended up including Ebi though.
If they had included every origami they had at the time on the super disk, it probably would've been a bit of an overkill...it really only needed the prime 5 and the 3 original support origamis.

Also, by the time they obtained the Inromaru, they had not acquired the Ushi and Kyoryu yet.

I love the Inromaru/Super mode, it basically upgraded all their existing powers by boosting their mojikara levels, and I really love the look of the Super cloak, it does have a Japanese style design, it looks really cool on the Shinkengers and complements their suits.

As for Daikai-ShinkenOh, I really don't like it to be honest.

[Mr. Pink]

i never said it had to have all of them, but it makes you wonder about ika, because technically there would have been four aux origami regardless of whether they had genta or not. The only real over lap could be Kajiki or Kabuto since Ika is Light and Tora is Heat or Snow.

Kyoryu was on a hidden disk somewhere and I know Ushi was sealed away so I didn't expect them to be on it. The picture of the Inromaru in the scroll had an image of the nine "original" origami though thus making it confusing

[Mr. CD]

I rather liked DaikaiShinkenoh. It was pretty much the only mech that didn't make me that didn't make my eyes bleed; it was so Magiking-like. But I hated Super Shinkenger, talk about your useless power-up. There was never even a single battle that was turned around by its presence. It changed the animation of the special attack used by the Shinkengers... and that's it. They were still facing the same Gedoushuu from before, and yet the battles didn't become any easier when it was used. Even in the episode itself where it was introduced, by the time they got to use it, the battle had basically already turned around.

It was used to call every mecha at once, without needing the Shinkenger present and also a new mecha combination... which suffered from the same uselessness. Their opponents were the same, they got a new mecha, yet the new mecha didn't make the battles any easier. How sad is it that the only time Super Shinkenger was ever shown to give any kind of extra power to the user was in the non-canon Televi-kun DVD?

I was glad Juuzo "died" because then we wouldn't have to put up with his hobo arse.

[Digifiend]

Super mode looks rather odd for a Sentai power-up, although the design does suit the motif. I liked the execution, especially Kotoha's long awaited use of it, which was a cool spin attack which I really hope is kept for Emily in PRSS.

[ShinkenW]

^ you mean Kotoha's Sarumawashi (Monkey Spin) attack? She actually already had that technique from the beginning which she had used in ep 22...the one she used while in Super mode in ep 36 was just a more powerful version of it because of the Super upgrade, and then she incorporated the spin attack with her Shin-Tsuchikemuri no Mai attack for her finisher in that ep, I thought that was really cool, I think Kotoha has some of the coolest attacks & techniques in this season :D

the important thing is whether the upgrades suit the respective season, and in Shinkenger's case, the Super mode most definitely suit the traditional Japanese motif.

[ShinkenW]

i never said it had to have all of them, but it makes you wonder about ika, because technically there would have been four aux origami regardless of whether they had genta or not. The only real over lap could be Kajiki or Kabuto since Ika is Light and Tora is Heat or Snow.

Kyoryu was on a hidden disk somewhere and I know Ushi was sealed away so I didn't expect them to be on it. The picture of the Inromaru in the scroll had an image of the nine "original" origami though thus making it confusing

It doesn't really matter what was illustrated in the scrolls or records, what really defines the Super disk is the actual mojikara disks used to create it and Genta had used the prime 5 and the Tora, Kabuto & Kajiki disks to create it, thus, the disk only utilizes the mojikara from these 8 origamis.

If the Inromaru & Super disk was completed by someone else, then it's possible for Ika to be included... but since it was Genta, the only other origami he was intending on adding was his Ebi...he had no intentions of adding Ika, thus Ika is excluded from the disk.

[Mr. White]

Super Mode was eh, but I liked the jacket. I hated Daikai though, it always looked weird to me. Juzo's "death" was ok, I liked how Takeru let himself get stabbed so he can get close enough to attack.

[ShinkenW]

I just noticed I haven't commented on Takeru's duel with Juuzo...I really like the whole sense of rivalry between them, it was interesting and their duels were always intense & epic. Their last duel in which Juuzo died for good was the most intense & epic of them all.

[Mako]

They were cool ! but i find it werd how both Girl's dabuts of the Super Shinkengers was not even written by the main writer, Juzou's death was awesome and it showed Takeru kepted his promise even though he did go abit mad in te end,

[Thrax]

^ you mean Kotoha's Sarumawashi (Monkey Spin) attack? She actually already had that technique from the beginning which she had used in ep 22...the one she used while in Super mode in ep 36 was just a more powerful version of it because of the Super upgrade, and then she incorporated the spin attack with her Shin-Tsuchikemuri no Mai attack for her finisher in that ep, I thought that was really cool, I think Kotoha has some of the coolest attacks & techniques in this season :D

the important thing is whether the upgrades suit the respective season, and in Shinkenger's case, the Super mode most definitely suit the traditional Japanese motif.

The Super Shinkengers are really great and i always liked of the Attack they have with the new powers and looks really awesome in Shinkengers.

[Mr. CD]

What did you think of Daigoyo?

[YellowAccel]

I like him and his relation with Genta.

[cypsiman2]

He was better than I expected him to be, though the disc shooting attack is still a bit too toyetic for me. I know, I know, but that's just where the line was for me.