RPM "In Or Out" Episode

[Fury Diamond]

Power Rangers: R.P.M. Episode 16 "In Or Out"
Episode Summary (http://www.rpmcast.com/episodes)

Do not ask about full episodes in this thread. They are posted in Multimedia Downloads (http://www.rangercrew.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10029).

This episode airs on July 4.

[BurgundyRanger]

No one got up? I'd say it was a little bit of a drop off from the previous two.

And I'm already had enough of the Gem/Gemma finish-each-other's-sentences! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/crazy/1471.gif

And, if you didn't catch on before, you know now that someone has the jiggies for Ziggy!

[Diz]

No one got up? I'd say it was a little bit of a drop off from the previous two.hehehe...it is a holiday in the states, right? :)

I'm on vacation at a friends place, and he doesn't have cable, so I'm waiting for this episode to be uploaded onto Youtube. Patience is a virtue...or so I'm told.

[PowerOnyx]

Dr. K is reluctant to show her feelings for Ziggy.

I liked the idea of stealing Corinth's air supply.

[RangerGirl09]

I just looked at my verizon cables and it says this episode doesn't air today because of the holiday parade. It will air next week with the other new episode "Prisoners".

[PowerOnyx]

^Verizon has it listed as Handshake. It's the new episode though.

[RangerGirl09]

Maybe it's just my cable. I'll double check it but I'm sure it said it doesn't air today.

[Gr1s3L]

I read the summary....and.... looks that we having a Dr.k/Ziggy.......moments...!!!

[sjneow]

And I'm already had enough of the Gem/Gemma finish-each-other's-sentences!

Heck I love it!!! Just cut it already will ya? Some commented Dr. K's lack of emotions at the beginning but they don't do it every single week.

[RickTrick]

So does any1 know where i can get a summary or actually watch it online?

[Diz]

So does any1 know where i can get a summary or actually watch it online?It'll probably appear on Youtube later on today. The fastest encoder on Youtube isn't working on today's episode apparently.

Edit: I'm getting impatient for seeing the episode. Last week, they were up and online by 12pm my time. It's now 1:45 and no such luck :)

[DarkBlaze]

HenshinGrid (http://henshingrid.blogspot.com/)

You can read a full summary there.

[Crazy Davey]

Man, worst episode of the season... Sad too, because I've been enjoying every episode fully until now.

The episode had it's moments, but Gem and Gemma are defenitly some of the most annoying Rangers in the history of the show...

[go-ongold83]

the problem is you want them to be like miu and hiroto and they are not, accept that. it is what it is.

[Mugenhunt]

the problem is you want them to be like miu and hiroto and they are not, accept that. it is what it is.

No, because there are fans who never saw Go-Onger who don't like them. They're just annoying.

[terrierlee]

Oh, I was up watching it, but this thread was closed like, two hours after it finished so I decided to hit the sack.

I felt the episode ended way too quickly. Before I knew it there was a Zord fight. I didn't like how Tenaya is depicted as the smart villain. The two guys in suits playing Shifter and Crunch don't have to be idiots. They can be cunning too! Jeez. I don't know, but every time Tenaya shows up, I groan and look away from the screen. Which is prolly a bad thing considering something important might happen.

I wasn't annoyed by Gem and Gemma finishing each others' sentences. I was expecting it by now so... But it was crazy because I kept looking at who was talking so my head was moving back and forth, back and forth and it was crazy.

Ziggy, he made me giggle, but eventually I was just, "Dude, don't rush it. She'll call you by your name when she does. Calm down :3" And I was kinda hoping she would call Ziggy by his name during the last minute, but I accepted whut was given. She looked extremely grateful there was an attack XD

OH THE OPENING SCENE. I was in giggles the whole time. Especially when she got to Flynn and then Dillon.

[ShadowDragonRanger]

Not a terrible episode...I don't mind Gem and Gemma finishing one another's sentences. Love their attitude regarding their fight and Col. Truman, but that shoot first ask questions later thing is going to cause some collateral damage.
Cute irony with Tenaya turning on a powerful fan on the Rangers... Linkage...nice! But Toritor/Jetras/HOMegazord aside it was a decent ep. 4/5 (Good).

[Green Guardian]

Dr. K's awkward hugs are made of win! Definitely one of my favorite RPM moments.

Even though I liked this episode, it felt a tad rushed, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if it's done right. Scott showing courage, Ziggy becoming obsessed with not being called "Ziggy," and the plot to take the dome's oxygen were highlights.

4/5.

[RickTrick]

still waiting for some kind generous soul to upload the episode!

[SolarisKnight222]

This episode along with Ranger Yellow are the worst episodes of the season. I was enjoying RPM too. Hopefully Prisoners will be a much better episode. Gem and Gemma are REALLY annoying. They need to calm the hell down. 2/5

[SilverPirate]

I like Gem and Gemma and they do make some good points about bringing the battle to Venjix, but they need to be just a little more serious. Gemma didn't even listen to Scott when he told her to stay back.

Hey, at least they won, but Gem and Gemma's attitudes could lead the team downhill one day.

[RickTrick]

It'll probably appear on Youtube later on today. The fastest encoder on Youtube isn't working on today's episode apparently.

Edit: I'm getting impatient for seeing the episode. Last week, they were up and online by 12pm my time. It's now 1:45 and no such luck :)

any luck yet? i wanna know how bad this Gem and Gemma situation is lol

[pr 4ever]

awesome awesome episode. Gem and Gemma are extremely annoying but besides that everything else was great. i love Dr K more and more each episode

[Crazy Davey]

the problem is you want them to be like miu and hiroto and they are not, accept that. it is what it is.




I don't even watch Sentai.... if that's what you're refering too... they're just annoying, plain and simple. That's without comparing them to anything. o_O


We havn't had Rangers this bad since Danny and Max.

[PowerOnyx]

We havn't had Rangers this bad since Danny and Max.

What about Will and Dax?

[bobtherandomguy]

Dax and Max, hmm, names rhyme, both considered annoying and both blue rangers in an anniversary season of the show...thats a mighty interesting coincidence

but I digress, I enjoyed the episode, I kind of like Gem and Gemma, my problem with Hiroto and Miu is they came in as the serious characters and all of a sudden Gunpei became a silly fool, at least they are allowing Dillon to keep his edgy-ness, the fact that they are constantly happy even though they were kidnapped as children, and later forced to live for 3 years as outcasts patrolling the outskirts of the last civilization on earth makes it seem to me like they are probably insane

[Crazy Davey]

What about Will and Dax?


I didn't mind Will, he was ok.

Dax and Chip were also pretty annoying

[Beast King]

Dax was THE worst, Will, not so much.

[PowerOnyx]

the fact that they are constantly happy even though they were kidnapped as children, and later forced to live for 3 years as outcasts patrolling the outskirts of the last civilization on earth makes it seem to me like they are probably insane

They only had each other out in the wasteland. There attitude is plausible as they kept a positive outlook on things.

Or they're insane like you said. :p

[Diz]

any luck yet? i wanna know how bad this Gem and Gemma situation is lolNo luck yet. :) Gotta love holidays. :)

[Mr. Yellow]

No luck yet. :) Gotta love holidays. :)

The gentlemen who usually uploads it on youtube is having computer problems. I am awaiting a link as well. Paitence. :)

[Mr. Underachiever]

-Damn, Ziggy got burned. Dr. K must either really like him, really hate him, or she's just mad at him because he said she wasn't the mentor.
-I am glad, though, that it seems like she's gonna be less of a ****ing ***** from now on. Hey, character development!
-I almost get the feeling that we're approaching the end of the season, even though we've just reached the halfway point. Hmm, I wonder why that is...
-Really nice use of the morphed powers in the first fight, especially Scott's, since this is only the second time he's actually used it.
-I don't know why everybody's *****ing about Gem and Gemma when we already know the way they act is gonna start becoming a problem with the others in a few episodes.
-Nice way of incorporating the monster into the plan. This is probably's Venjix best idea yet.
-See, this is why I'm still a little worried about that episode where Scott goes into the wasteland to impress Truman. It's obvious he doesn't give two ****s about what Truman thinks at this point. Also, nice initiative from him.
-Nice callback to Station 19 first seen in "Rain." Also, good use of the morphed powers to get out of the dome.
-This has come up in another episode, but I'm not sure which (Ranger Red?). Why is Summer the de-facto leader while Scott is out of the dome? Shouldn't Flynn be leader since, you know, he does have a giant number two on his chest?
-So do Gem and Gemma have reshot zord activation footage too? I noticed they didn't show that part if they did.
-I also wonder when they're gonna reference the fact that Gem's zord is supposedly a falcon even though it looks like a chicken. Maybe it's only a falcon in the toys (like the Steedergon Fury Megazord).
-I'm almost certain she's mad at Ziggy for saying she's not the mentor.

Anyway, another greeat episode, which is awesome because usually once we get to the middle of the season, we start getting into this lull. 4/5.

[Qarlf]

I really enjoyed this episode, Gem and Gemma are amazing. I understand that they are annoying but they mean well. Ziggy being dissed by Dr. K was fun to see. I really can't wait for the next episode.
I gave this episode a 5 out of 5. Because it had the all around episode that I've been waiting for. It felt like it picked up from when it left off two weeks ago.

[Mr. CD]

-This has come up in another episode, but I'm not sure which (Ranger Red?). Why is Summer the de-facto leader while Scott is out of the dome? Shouldn't Flynn be leader since, you know, he does have a giant number two on his chest?

Maybe the numbers don't mean anything.

[bobtherandomguy]

I too was surprised Summer took charge with Scott gone, maybe it was just a spur of the moments thing, some people take charge at different points, I always assumed the second in command was either Flynn because he's ranger operator number two, or Dillon because he's the lancer and they usually hold the second in command role. In the end I don't really think it matters who takes charge with Scott out of the way considering they are still taking orders from K anyway technically making her the leader

[BurgundyRanger]

Maybe the numbers don't mean anything.
Speaking of which, where's 6?

(If it's a "If you'd seen Go-onger, you'd know" answer, just let it be. I guess I'll find out soon enough in that case.)

[PowerRangers4Ever]

I love the Ziggy/Dr. K connection. I know for a fact Dr. K love her some Ziggy, even though she hasn't told him yet. Also, Gem and Gemma kicked MAJOR butt!

[pr 4ever]

I was very surprised that Disney allowed Scott to say "Suck On This!" to the vaccuum bot.

Thats definitely a first! :rpmred:

[ninja_wolf]

Speaking of which, where's 6?

(If it's a "If you'd seen Go-onger, you'd know" answer, just let it be. I guess I'll find out soon enough in that case.)

Um.... you mean a #6 ranger right?

I dunno if this is a good enough reason for you, but the ranger's numbers actually correspond to their zords. The Croc Carrier is zord #6 but since it's unmanned there is no ranger that's #6. Zords 7 and 8 are Gold and Silver's, therefore that's their numbers.

[terrierlee]

Well, they already talked about the Zords having eyes so maybe one day they'll mention the lack of the number 6. But, I was a little unnerved by Summer taking the leader role, just a bit. I, too, assumed Flynn would fill in that role.

*twitches at the people badmouthing Dax*

[malfion]

I liked the shiny helmets...
But it seems to me that Gem/Gemma are trying too hard to be funny, so I'm going to chalk it down to them being crazy.

[bobtherandomguy]

Gem and Gemma definately have issues there is no doubt about that, but if Alphabet soup captured them, you have to assume they too are of high intellegence, so they are probably good tactitions and such

[Mr. Yellow]

Saw the episode, it's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be I think. Yes, Gem and Gemma are indeed quite peppy and crazy but it doesn't really annoy me. They appear to be the polar opposites of Hiroto and Miu.

[RangerGirl09]

Maybe it's just my cable. I'll double check it but I'm sure it said it doesn't air today.

It was just my cable because all around New England, ABC channel was broadcasting the 4th of July parade in Bristol, RI. So they will broadcast this episode next week along with "Prisoners". But I already saw this episode. It was so funny.

- Ziggy and Dr. K moments

- Dr. K showing her kind side and leaving her coldness behind

- Ziggy as funny as ever along with Gem and Gemma

- Only one Dillon and Summer, that was him saving Summer from being chop up by the fan. I'm telling you I think Summer more feelings for Dillon than Scott.

I can't wait for next week's episode!!!!!!

[BurgundyRanger]

I wouldn't be susprised if there were similar pre-emptions all over the place today. I guess there's one benefit to getting it off a station that time-shifts it to 5 a.m.

[Turbo Orange]

I so hope Gemma calms down some. She could have killed both herself and Scott by not waiting.

[unomedjd]

ok minus gem and gemma, this episode wasn't half bad. but they definitely were the worst part of the episode for me.

there was a good plan by venjix to suck all of the air out. and i like how scott figured out what was going to happen and on top of that, standing up to his dad telling him that he was wrong and then going out against his father's wishes. i also thought was cool to see how the other rangers got out of the dome, and good to remember about the gas gate. but as usual, dr k stole the episode and shined throughout the whole thing. still a pretty good ep.

i'm really not liking gem and gemma's character so far although they've only been around a few episodes. i'm hoping we get a "ranger silver/gold" episode so we can get some further explanation about them, their peppyness, there "blow things up, ask questions later" motto, why they finish each others sentences, and why they never spit up.

[bobtherandomguy]

well for the past 3 or 4 years they have been the only other person the other saw, when they thought the world dead they still had each other thats why they don't like to split up

[Gr1s3L]

- Ziggy and Dr. K moments



- Only one Dillon and Summer, that was him saving Summer from being chop up by the fan. I'm telling you I think Summer more feelings for Dillon than Scott.

I can't wait for next week's episode!!!!!!

:rpmgreen::rpmyellow::rpmblack:

I loved that part too....

Awwwww..!!
Dillon...".Summer.."
..."..Your not going anywhere.."
He saver her..!

Yeah me too can't wait for New episode..."Prisioners.."
More Dillon's Past...!!!:rpmblack:

[Neo Aguni]

A purely awesome episode. Poor Ziggy all he wants is a kind word from Doc. I tell you Olivia Tennet is a phenominal actress at the end of the episode the way she smiled at Ziggy I could almost feel her character's heart pounding. She wants to be nice to him, but she's afraid everyone else will see through her.

Definate ZigK DilSum and maybe even a little TenGem

[Beast King]

Gem and Gemma must have been on drugs or something.

[Gr1s3L]

Definate ZigK DilSum and maybe even a little TenGem



Don't forget......Gemma&Flynn.....!!!

Nahhh..!!! This is to much...pairs..!!!


:rpmgreen::rpmyellow::rpmblack:

[bobtherandomguy]

pair all the spares all females are present and accounted for
Summer & Dillon
Doc K & the talented Mister Grover(which sounds like it could be the name of a tv show, ABC pick it up NOW)
Gemma & um...Scott/Flynn/her brother
Tenaya & the aforementioned three

I guess you really can pair everyone

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Doc K & the talented Mister Grover(which sounds like it could be the name of a

I desperately want someone to write a fic with Ziggy engineering a treasure hunt and continually telling people they're "close" and "far away." He should also be working to fortify Corinth against the Monster at the End of the Book.

[nekollx]

all together it was a interesting episode. Scoot was on the ball but did anyone notice that Summer had this blanke stare when she morphed in front of the giant fireball?
Ziggy gets no respect and it seems Gem and Gemma are still key up on the entire "solo act" thing. Hoestly with how reckless they are and some other cues i have a feeling they share the same brain or something and they CAN'T really be apart.

Also funny note:
Gem is planed by a man named Ginn and Silvers zord would says GIIIIIIIIIIIN as his catchphrasse :P

[Cmdr Crayfish]

I didn't mind Will, he was ok.

I am, honest to god, never speaking to you again.

Jesus Christ. The one Ranger who CONSISTENTLY fails to learn the correct lesson about humility and teamwork, to the point he decides the only team he can be a part of is one he's LEADING...

[Squizz]

The twins are annoying but after the first couple of minutes I didnt find them so bad, Will on the other hand. He's that one ranger who was just so wrong, poor Dax doesnt get enough slack in comparision.
If the relationships disappear on the change over I'll be so sad, The Ziggy Dr K pairing has to be my favourite pairing ever.
It may be a crazy coincidence that the twins appeared near the no.18 switch-over. ;)

[Cmdr Crayfish]

It's going to amuse me when the changeover does very little to modify the cadence and timbre of the season, but the fans continue to see "patterns" in it. And/or ascribe the worst tendencies with RPM in general as being the product of Chip. Vis a vis, the dysentery comment, the periodic illogic regarding the Ranger powers (like that Scott and Dillon never considered morphing to get out of being chained together until the plot called for it, even when this is the show where Kalishplosions were a PLOT POINT), the utter childishness of Gem and Gemma, etc.

Unlike midseason Turbo, the lead story editor didn't change. John is still SE. The executive producer and showrunner changed. It's John's job to MAINTAIN NARRATIVE CONSISTENCY. I trust in his competency, even if this is a man who swears up and down RPM is its own continuity.

[louie kaboom]

The twins are very anoying they dont have to finish eachovers sentences all the time

good episode

Loved the dr k/ziggy relationship that was funny i want to see how that progreses

[Aeon87]

when are we gonna get to see gem and gemma morph i mean it's been two episodes now and nothing, at least we got to see hiroto and mui morph in the same episode they appeared in. and they have seriously got to stop finishing each others sentences otherwise that gonna get on my nerves

[Squizz]

MAINTAIN NARRATIVE CONSISTENCY. . Why do you use caps? I have to admit I find it really insulting over the internet, the whole point of a sentence is that it makes sense, you don't need to bold the key parts.

[Thorn]

We saw in an episode (Blitz maybe?) that Ziggy can teleport other people with him, when he rescued Dillon from falling down, so why didn't he teleport everyone out of the dome instead of them all using their powers to go through the tunnel? They could have needed that energy outside. And if not Ziggy, everyone (except Dillon) could have used their power so they all ran through together. Or does Flynn freeze the rangers as well? They didn't need to waste energy "/
Oh, and did anyone notice that Venjix was the red lamp again when he said "Begin the download"? Why is that? I thought he liked the monster body.. Anyways, great episode ^w^

[unomedjd]

It's going to amuse me when the changeover does very little to modify the cadence and timbre of the season, but the fans continue to see "patterns" in it. And/or ascribe the worst tendencies with RPM in general as being the product of Chip. Vis a vis, the dysentery comment, the periodic illogic regarding the Ranger powers (like that Scott and Dillon never considered morphing to get out of being chained together until the plot called for it, even when this is the show where Kalishplosions were a PLOT POINT), the utter childishness of Gem and Gemma, etc.

Unlike midseason Turbo, the lead story editor didn't change. John is still SE. The executive producer and showrunner changed. It's John's job to MAINTAIN NARRATIVE CONSISTENCY. I trust in his competency, even if this is a man who swears up and down RPM is its own continuity.

Was this episode the crossover cause if it would definitely explain alot....

[Mr. Gold]

One thing's for sure about this ep...Gem and Gemma LOVE to blow stuff up. And yeah, they sound funny but they're a bit annoying. Hope they calm down in the next few eps.

Rating: 4/5

[Beast King]

Oh, and did anyone notice that Venjix was the red lamp again when he said "Begin the download"? Why is that? I thought he liked the monster body.. Anyways, great episode ^w^Perhaps they weren't bothered to film one of him saying it in his new body, so they just used Stock footage, Or Venjix can download himself into that body when he likes, and this shows he isn't in it all the time.

[Ranger Yellow]

I desperately want someone to write a fic with Ziggy engineering a treasure hunt and continually telling people they're "close" and "far away." He should also be working to fortify Corinth against the Monster at the End of the Book.

You know, I can actually see that. I wish that to lol

[Mugenhunt]

Why do you use caps?

Chris is old school, and that's all we had to show emphasis back in the day before we could use such new fangled things like bold or italics to show nuance.

There's a difference between using caps in a sentence to show that this is something important, and between WRITING THE WHOLE THING IN CAPS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT CAPS LOCK DOES AND WANT TO LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

As for not needing to show emphasis with a sentence because you've done it well, the problem is that we're in a discussion here. It's hard to convey certain emotions purely through text, and thus it's easy for people to get the wrong message by interpreting the text incorrectly. Proper use of emphasis can aid in making sure people get when you're joking, for instance.

[O.92]

I am, honest to god, never speaking to you again.

Jesus Christ. The one Ranger who CONSISTENTLY fails to learn the correct lesson about humility and teamwork, to the point he decides the only team he can be a part of is one he's LEADING...

Will's one of my favorite rangers. Not even joking.

Finally saw the episode. I feel like I missed a lot watching it once. I'll watch it once more before I decide what I like and don't like.

[ForeverBlue]

The episode was awesome!!!!

[BlueSenturion]

OK, just saw it, and here is my impression:

Gem and Gemma are so damn annoying
Ziggy got some highlight in this episode
Dr K annoyed me, but realllllllllly much
Humor was rather great


3/5.

[Squizz]

As for not needing to show emphasis with a sentence because you've done it well, the problem is that we're in a discussion here. It's hard to convey certain emotions purely through text, and thus it's easy for people to get the wrong message by interpreting the text incorrectly. Proper use of emphasis can aid in making sure people get when you're joking, for instance.

:) thanks , I probably took it a little out of context, I tend to prescribe to the overuse of smilieys XD It's nice to know that not so much of the staff changed as rumours seemed to make out. Also in the UK series are typically wrote by a lead writer or even a single writer with no help from other writers. So I suppose I got a little confused over who has the most control.

I'm hoping for a seamless crossover really, though if those twins stop being peppy then that's good too ;)

[nekollx]

OK, just saw it, and here is my impression:

Gem and Gemma are so damn annoying
Ziggy got some highlight in this episode
Dr K annoyed me, but realllllllllly much
Humor was rather great


3/5.

Ziggy really dis steal the show, "Wait mentor? Arent we all like older then you"
Dr. K pauses, "As your mentor..."

[Mugenhunt]

It's nice to know that not so much of the staff changed as rumours seemed to make out.

Oh, we lost a good chunk of the writers for RPM. As far as I'm aware, we only kept John Tellegen, who wrote this week's episode. We lost Jackie, Eddie, and all the new writers that Eddie brought with him from his previous projects. It's just that the one writer who remained is perhaps the most important one of all in the production end of things.

[Gr1s3L]

Oh, we lost a good chunk of the writers for RPM. As far as I'm aware, we only kept John Tellegen, who wrote this week's episode. We lost Jackie, Eddie, and all the new writers that Eddie brought with him from his previous projects. It's just that the one writer who remained is perhaps the most important one of all in the production end of things.

I noticed that too in the opening credits....just said.....

Executive producer: Koichi.....Judd Lynn.....Eddie Guzelian...!!

Then when the episode starts..:

In or Out...


Written by: John Tellegen

Directed by: Mike Smith



What about our Co-Producer: Jackie Marchand..???

[Crazy Davey]

Well, Jackie was supposed to quit a little before Eddie was fired... so... In and Out is probably where Jackie finally left

[SolarisKnight222]

So episodes 19-32 will be written by John Tellegen and Judd Lynn only.

[Mugenhunt]

So episodes 19-32 will be written by John Tellegen and Judd Lynn only.

Probably.

Episodes 1-18 were mostly written by Eddie, John and Jackie with two episodes done by previous Eddie collaborators Matthew Negrete (11 - Doctor K) and Madellaine Paxson (10 - Ranger Blue). Of those, only John will remain on staff. It is possible that new or returning writers might aid them in writing the second half of the season, but it's also possible that the two of them will just have to knuckle down and churn out the rest of the season by themselves. We'll find out soon enough.

[Phoenix Fire]

I liked the episode but Ziggy really got on my nerves with his whining.

[Mr. Black]

This episode was great. It was really rounded between character development, humor, and action. I actually don't find Gem and Gemma annoying at all.

5/5

[Zarius]

Judd was notorious for writing just about every ep himself if he had to. He and Jackie co-wrote LR and TF together without ANY need for other talents.. If the writing staff has come down to the script editor and the executive producer, they may collaberate on the remaining scripts.

[SolarisKnight222]

I hope we get a two or three part finale. Chip's finales always consisted of two or three parts.

[SenseiRoku]

That was a good episode.

Thoroughly enjoyed the Ziggy/Doc K moments. The first time she doesn't really any anything to him reminded me of a Ross and Rachel moment from friends during the series finale.

Gem/Gemma... ha they aren't as bad as I would have thought, but I'm hoping there is going to be major character development for them.

Plot was good, hope Venjix will think of better tactics. He is an AI virus after all.

On another note, I want to see the morph sequences for Gem and Gemma as well as them summoning their zords. Hmm..wonder if they have special suit powers too?

[brandicetolliver]

it's an awesome episode

[Blazing Tiger]

I liked the eps overall. i finally got to watch it a little while ago. I don't think Gem and Gemma are annoying i just think they will take some getting use to. I adored the Ziggy/K moments. Though she was kind of mean it just showed maybe she was scared to tell him and stuff. I do have to add the whole blow up stuff ask questions later is an awesome quote. One to take to heart for some lol.

[Black Warrior]

We saw in an episode (Blitz maybe?) that Ziggy can teleport other people with him, when he rescued Dillon from falling down, so why didn't he teleport everyone out of the dome instead of them all using their powers to go through the tunnel? They could have needed that energy outside. And if not Ziggy, everyone (except Dillon) could have used their power so they all ran through together. Or does Flynn freeze the rangers as well? They didn't need to waste energy "/
Oh, and did anyone notice that Venjix was the red lamp again when he said "Begin the download"? Why is that? I thought he liked the monster body.. Anyways, great episode ^w^

Thank you I was wondering did anyone else notice this. I believe Flyn would of been enough stop time everyone goes through. Heck each one i saw all of them could of ran through, using one special move. Yeah dont know the range and scope of Dillions shield but like you said one power was only needed.

Gem and Gemma... yeah i agree with the insane theory from the life that hey have had. I too wait on the morph sequences and hope they calm down a bit.

Yeah, ol Doc K, is digging Ziggy. I was angry at her treatment of him early on in the season but its the classic girl likes boy and shows it with coldness.

[Ryan Steele]

it was funny that DR.K didn't speak about Ziggy:p

[Thrax]

Awesome episode really...

the plot as awesome Venjix have good plots to finish with the last city of the planet
the battles between the rangers and Grinders as cool, and see Dr.K dont tell Ziggy name as funny
Scott ricks a lot awesome, i liked to see the combination between Gold and Silver rangers with the Megazord awesome

[Ryan Steele]

about Gem and Gemma...how crazy are they:p???
Will we ever see them serious:p???

[Beast King]

I doubt it, i think even if a ranger were to drop dead, they'd still make comedy out of it, Like:

Gem: He's as good as
Gemma: Dead.

[ForeverBlue]

They'll probably goofy for a few episodes and start to be a little more serious like the rest of the rangers when we get near the end of the season....

[nekollx]

I doubt it, i think even if a ranger were to drop dead, they'd still make comedy out of it, Like:

Gem: He's as good as
Gemma: Dead.

the main problem i have with Gem and Gemma is they basicly just foot not each other s sentence its jaring when you hear 90% of a sentence by one person and then 1 word from the other if it was more smooth 50/50 with switch backs on long conversations would work better.

[Zeltrax]

I thought this ep was good. I loved the Dr.K/Ziggy moments.

[BlueSenturion]

Man, I rewatched it 2 times, and G/G annoy me even more...

[terrierlee]

Nah Beast. They would say it like

Gem: He's as
Gemma: Good as dead.

[Diz]

Speaking of which, where's 6?

(If it's a "If you'd seen Go-onger, you'd know" answer, just let it be. I guess I'll find out soon enough in that case.)I don't even think it was explained in Go-Onger.

I guess it's that every piece of equipment is given a number; and certain pieces require a human operator. Gem and Gemma don't have numbers on their suits though they operate the numbers 7 and 8 vehicles.

[Hears All]

I don't even think it was explained in Go-Onger.

I guess it's that every piece of equipment is given a number; and certain pieces require a human operator. Gem and Gemma don't have numbers on their suits though they operate the numbers 7 and 8 vehicles.

Carrigator was 6. It was never explained why they skipped over to 7 and 8 for the Go-On Wings. Go-Onger did have some messed up numbering, Kisamoth, Tyline and Kyline were all supposed to be "ancient" Engines, but they were numbered 10, 11 and 12

[Mr. CD]

Go-onger did explain why we never got an Go-on Orange: Carrigator was a member of the Gian clan who didn't need partners to survive in Human World.

[Beast King]

I'm surprised i didn't remember that, Go-onger is one of my favorite sentai's!!!!!!

[The 2nd Evil]

It was so nice to see the return of the real John Tellegen. You know, the one that writes good episodes.

I love Gem and Gemma. They have the real world experience of a three year old and love to blow **** up. What more could anyone want?

The twin talk is an interesting little character quirk, and really shows how in tune they are with each other.

It's scary how enjoyable I found this episode, especially after the constant weeks of disinterest the episodes have made me feel.

There may be hope for this season, yet.

[Crazy Davey]

I am, honest to god, never speaking to you again.

Jesus Christ. The one Ranger who CONSISTENTLY fails to learn the correct lesson about humility and teamwork, to the point he decides the only team he can be a part of is one he's LEADING...




Ah! I'm sorry!!!!!! XD

Damn, that Will. I hate him with a passion!


Forgive me now?

[The 2nd Evil]

I was very surprised that Disney allowed Scott to say "Suck On This!" to the vaccuum bot.

After Baby-Fu, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney's involvement was solely making sure that everything was on schedule.

[bobtherandomguy]

they still have network censors

[Thrax]

I think Dr.K will say the name of Ziggy in the finals episodes of RPM

[Mr. White]

Pretty good ep ehhh Ziggy got rejectedXD :lol:

[Stormy]

I thought the episode was good for a couple of reasons. I hate to be the worst critic here, but I have to be honest of what I personally think of the episode.

1. Even though Gem and Gemma are really good fighters, I think these two are WAY too hyper for me. But as we all watch the episodes, their characters might develop.

2. If Dr. K said she changed her ways, why is she still cold to Ziggy? I was watching the episode and, not to be wrong here, but I'm starting to feel pretty sorry for him. I can understand how he's feeling. He was only trying to be nice to her. He may have said some silly things, but personally, I do not see why Dr. K would have to give poor Ziggy the cold shoulder.

I'm not trying to bash Dr. K or trying to make this all about Ziggy all the time, but I'm just expressing my opinion on what I thought. That's all.

Besides all that, I give the episode a 4/5.

[Hears All]

Go-onger did explain why we never got an Go-on Orange: Carrigator was a member of the Gian clan who didn't need partners to survive in Human World.

If he was part of the Gian Clan why would his number fit with the other Engines? Go-Onger was full of plotholes

[Mr. CD]

How do you know other Gian didn't have numbers on them?

[bobtherandomguy]

the probability of the one remaining member of the Gian race being consecutively in line numerically after the five main engines is so highly unlikely

[Mr. CD]

Maybe, but I chalk it up as being more of a coincidence than anything. Beside, there was nothing in Go-onger that didn't suggest other Engines on Machine World didn't have numbers on them.

[Neo Aguni]

I thought the episode was good for a couple of reasons. I hate to be the worst critic here, but I have to be honest of what I personally think of the episode.

1. Even though Gem and Gemma are really good fighters, I think these two are WAY too hyper for me. But as we all watch the episodes, their characters might develop.

2. If Dr. K said she changed her ways, why is she still cold to Ziggy? I was watching the episode and, not to be wrong here, but I'm starting to feel pretty sorry for him. I can understand how he's feeling. He was only trying to be nice to her. He may have said some silly things, but personally, I do not see why Dr. K would have to give poor Ziggy the cold shoulder.

I'm not trying to bash Dr. K or trying to make this all about Ziggy all the time, but I'm just expressing my opinion on what I thought. That's all.

Besides all that, I give the episode a 4/5.

I am starting to get the feeling that the following is one of the reasons for Dr. K's cold shoulder.

I do NOT think Ziggy is stupid, uneducated but not stupid, and he has shown to be capable of coming up with a strategy when Dr. K or the others can't. I.e. It was Ziggy's idea to use the ranger's radio transmission to get Dillon to come back and help the other rangers. It was Ziggy's idea that they used to outsmart Venjix in Brother's Keeper. And again in In or Out it was Ziggy who knew how to get them out of the city when Dr. K was clueless.

What I think it is? Dr. K can see Ziggy's potential and the fact that he never lived up to it angers her a bit, and also the fact that he even with his potential lived a normal life.

I also have the feeling that Ziggy and Dr. K know each other, from before she was kidnapped by Alphabet Soup.

[bobtherandomguy]

You don't actually think K is the girl he mentioned in the second episode when he was blathering on to the guards do you. That seems highly unlikely though it would be an interesting twist but the real reason Dr. K isn't as friendly towards Ziggy when she warmed up to the other four is she chose them, a bad situation chose Ziggy, yes she likes Ziggy but still she can't help thinking he shouldn't even be there, its also possible that since she ended the world even though she has no problem talking with Summer on the physical attractiveness of both Scott and Dylan, she doesn't feel she deserves a special connection

[Neo Aguni]

a valid point, and quite possible, but I stand by my conclusions until I'm proven wrong.

[ShadowDragonRanger]

I don't get the hate on Gem and Gemma. They're like four/five year-olds with Ranger Powers and kick butt. But there will be personal development and backstory for them in a cuple of eps. They'll be forced to split up, think for themselves and speak on their own. It's just the newness till setting in.
As for the special abilities. Dillon's shield only covers his immediate surroundings (about 1 ft) we've seen that Ziggy can only teleport one person with him (so far).

[Quark]

Dillon's shield only covers his immediate surroundings (about 1 ft) we've seen that Ziggy can only teleport one person with him (so far).

Makes you wonder why he didn't burst into flames. And Ziggy can teleport multiple people as he demonstrated in Blitz. Instead of depleting all of Ziggy's ranger energy teleporting, each one sacrificed a smaller bit. Makes sense to me. *shrug*

[Diz]

I loved the exchange between Gem/Gemma and the Colonel - What are YOU doing? Very cool. They just don't care, and that rules.

Being a fan of the Sentai, I can't help but say "DORU DORU!" whenever Scott puts the Engine Cell into the Nitro Blaster.

Kinda surprized by the angle of the "Bow and Arrow" attack from the new Megazord. It was really hard figure out what they were doing.

[Beast King]

*Groans* Sentai footage these days.

[terrierlee]

Yeah, I was a little confused when they made the bow and arrow too. Maybe when we get the next Megazord they'll do a better job of the attack?

[Ryan Steele]

Gem and Gemma are like some crazy characters from japaneze anime who mess up everything

[Hears All]

Being a fan of the Sentai, I can't help but say "DORU DORU!" whenever Scott puts the Engine Cell into the Nitro Blaster.

In some previous episodes, if you listen when Summer puts her (not used to the RPM names!) Engine Soul into the Super Highway Buster you can hear Bear RV yell "V-V-V-V". Not sure anyone mentioned that lol

[Mr. Pink]

I'm missing the rangers putting the engine cells into the casts! that and Jetras' torahawk attack.... RPM makes it looks an icy blue mess...

Loved K at the end... Summer doing well being a second in command and loving her shoes...

Gemma and Gem calmed it down a bit... well to the best of their ability... considering their social isolation in alphabet soup and that in the middle of nowhere against Venjix, I only see it as a matter of time before they become less annoying... the twin finishing each others sentences is annoying, but I still prefer them in comparison to Dax and the like (and even Genta in Shinkenger)...

I dont really get the whole Gemma and Gem going off on their own and Scott following them (not that I didn't like it... it was nice for the twins to split up) if the only footage they really reused besides the Zord battle was the attack after the engine cells being inserted...

I just "love" how Tenaya and the Generals managed to walk through an open gate and like how they were able to suck the air from an underwater river...

[Black Warrior]

Makes you wonder why he didn't burst into flames. And Ziggy can teleport multiple people as he demonstrated in Blitz. Instead of depleting all of Ziggy's ranger energy teleporting, each one sacrificed a smaller bit. Makes sense to me. *shrug*


True but couldn't they all of still ran through when flyn used his time freeze? Its 10 seconds for goodness sake.

oh and lol on scott saying suck on this and then whipping out his sword on the vacuum bot

[Beast King]

Yeah, I was a little confused when they made the bow and arrow too. Maybe when we get the next Megazord they'll do a better job of the attack?The seiku-oh finisher is a lot clearer.

[Thrax]

I think the next episode will begin in the moment this end. the attack of the end of this episobe, be the start of the next episode

[Hears All]

Finally saw the episode during my busy week...

RPM keeps up its awesomness, am I the only one who think the enviroments look amazing? I thought RPM was supposed to have a low budget, you sure as hell couldn't tell from watch the show though

Ziggy and Dr.K have a thing going? This episode makes me believe so

Gem and Gemma are alright, I don't know why people don't like them. Sure they are very hyper, but listen to the things there saying, those guys are complete animals when it comes to fights

[Erik10101]

The episode was pretty good.

The "Dr. K trying to be nice" was pretty funny. Too bad she forgot Ziggy. Wonder why Gem and Gemma never butted in.

Scott disobeying his father was cool again. The megazord combo looked cool. Did they ever even reveal the Gold and Silver zords' names?

Anyway, the end was pretty good. Wonder what Dr. K was about to say about Ziggy...

Overall, a good episode. 4/5

[bobtherandomguy]

they still haven't technically named Green and Blacks zords, I don't expect Gold and Silvers to be named in show

[Titanium Ranger]

Poor, no doubt about it. The only thing that saved this episode was the other rangers' presence, but since it was more or less a Gem/Gemma thing, it sucked and sucked bad. It was seriously pathetic. It's like PR found a different way to be childish. Gem and Gemma are a HUGE disgrace to Miu and Hiroto. RPM's the exact opposite of Go onger. Go onger got better after 15 or so episodes, RPM's gotten worse (and by the producers changing thing, isn't stopping there). I really loved the first 10 eps of RPM. 11 was bad, since it showed Gem and Gemma and 12 was bad, but then they picked up, only to drop the standards here again.

I loved Dr. K's and Scott's moment to shine. Didn't really think much of Ziggy/K before this but that look she gave him in the end! It's hard not to think of them as a possibility. Especially since she hesitated with expressing herself with him and how we discovered she was younger than the others. Somehow I thought she'd be a bit older than them (you know, some people look younger than they are) but i'm pretty sure that revelation means something, especially how Ziggy kept repeating it. Those are the interesting parts. I really hope Gem and Gemma become like Tommy in MMPR and just come when they're really needed; and aren't even there when hanging out. Gemma plain out looks ******ed. They ruined this episode and provided another (unusual for a show like RPM) episode where I'm not too psyched about the next one.

P.S. best moment was when Dr. K turned to Flynn and Scottish music started playing in the back lol. That and the very last scene with K and Ziggy. At least they ended on a high.


I don't get the hate on Gem and Gemma. They're like four/five year-olds with Ranger Powers and kick butt. But there will be personal development and backstory for them in a cuple of eps. They'll be forced to split up, think for themselves and speak on their own. It's just the newness till setting in.
As for the special abilities. Dillon's shield only covers his immediate surroundings (about 1 ft) we've seen that Ziggy can only teleport one person with him (so far).


That's the thing. People who wanted a more mature, better show were getting it. We don't need comic reliefs. Ziggy and Flynn are there to do the job. Well, Ziggy's the joker while Flynn is the light-hearted dude. So they threw in a bunch of ******s. One thing I'd be interested in, is if they got a blow to their heads, the kind of blow that'd make normal people go mad. I don't think that would effect these two in any way, except that instead of "talking" they'd start muttering together in installments...

[Cmdr Crayfish]

Gem and Gemma are horrible characters, nobody denies it -- but I think they're meant to be completely insulated from the horrendous state of the world around them, to stand in stark contrast to the rest of the characters and in particular their old friend K. These two eked out a meager existence on the fringes. I've seen people who had to work in the print industry who cracked from the pressure, the heat, and the monotonous labor. Imagine what surviving in an apocalyptic wasteland for years with no one but your sibling would do. The others, even Dillon due to his amnesia, have managed to delude themselves as to the severity of the world outside of Corinth. They think they have it hard enough in their little climate controlled hologram utopia because there's rationing. Gem and Gemma are harsh reminders that THE WORLD IS DEAD AND GONE.

[Mr. CD]

Gem and Gemma are horrible characters, nobody denies it
I do. I actually think they're brilliant. They're basically warp emotionally disturbed individuals with morphers. That's awesome.

[Hears All]

I do. I actually think they're brilliant. They're basically warp emotionally disturbed individuals with morphers. That's awesome.

Agreed, people don't realize what their saying, I think there two of the most agressive Rangers we've ever had

[nekollx]

agreed, people don't realize what their saying, i think there two of the most agressive rangers we've ever had

kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Booooooooooooooooooooooom!

[Titanium Ranger]

Agreed, people don't realize what their saying, I think there two of the most agressive Rangers we've ever had

That means we don't know what we're saying? I know I for one never denied their aggressiveness or whatever, but even that aggressiveness seems to come from their madness. It was a stroke of luck that their hunch turned out to be right in this episode. They wanted to just fight, like they have been all over the wasteland when they weren't with the rangers. They never figured "hey, Venjix is gonna suck the air out of the city, so let's escape and take out the Vacuum Bot," unless I read it wrong.

[bobtherandomguy]

Gem and Gemma are sociopaths, they think of it as a game, thats even more scary and potentially badass then if they had been like Hiroto and Miu and been all stoic and brooding. Honestly it would have been redundant to make them the brooding characters when Dillon already has that spot, I mean Gem and Gemma, they are the kind of characters we have never had, and I love it

[nekollx]

Gem and Gemma are sociopaths, they think of it as a game, thats even more scary and potentially badass then if they had been like Hiroto and Miu and been all stoic and brooding. Honestly it would have been redundant to make them the brooding characters when Dillon already has that spot, I mean Gem and Gemma, they are the kind of characters we have never had, and I love it

Course it totally makes sense too. They were alone in the wasteland for a year. No home, no rest, just survival.

[Fenix84]

I’ve finally caught up with RPM after being busy with various family events over the last few weekends. Here’s my late review of “In or Out.”

This is a very good episode, easily the best ever since the downturn in quality (IMO) following what I think has been RPM’s best episode so far, “Dr. K.” While not without its flaws, I think this was a great example of the kind of writing that PR should strive for. It wasn’t restricted to being a “character focus” or a “story arc” episode the way too many PR episodes are. It definitely wasn’t pointless Sentai action filler. Rather, writer John Tellegen took advantage of PR’s ensemble cast to make an episode that delivered in multiple areas. “In or Out” is very funny, and full of great character moments, subplots, development, and continuity callbacks.

I really like the first scene, where Dr. K opens up to the team and explains that she hasn’t called them by their real names to avoid potential emotional trauma should she lose them (like she believed she had lost Gem and Gemma). It was very sudden and expository, making her motives blatant when it had been delicately implied before. However, the scene won me over with the humor: Dr. K approaches each Ranger, giving them awkward hugs and somewhat crappy compliments, which are the best she can do. I like how RPM doesn’t shy away from things, and openly makes mention of subjects like female cattiness and Dillon’s psychological problems. Ziggy opens his arms and welcomes a hug, but turns out to be the only one who doesn’t have his actual name mentioned. We know it’s because Dr. K is crushing on him (continuing from “Brother’s Keeper”) and is still uncomfortable with getting close. Also, the show lampshades the fandom’s use of the word “mentor” and the silliness of a young girl like Dr. K filling that role.

Gem and Gemma’s annoyingly bizarre behavior (which had been a bit more subdued in “Ghosts”) is back in full force. While this episode did a lot of things right, it unfortunately put these two clowns in featured roles. Dr. K explains that they’ve been outside by themselves for the last three years, waging a private war against Venjix. No mention of isolated human colonies outside of Corinth, as many fans had speculated. That would have been cool and made more sense. Where the hell did Gem and Gemma eat, sleep, shower, and crap for all these years? These characters suck, and took a point off of this episode’s rating from me all by themselves. More on them later.

Tenaya and the two General whatevers waltz right through the city’s gates without any explanation as to how they breached its shields, even though the shield later plays an important part of this episode’s plot. I seriously only locked down which one was Shifter and which one was Crunch just in the last episode, when Crunch was singled out to accompany Venjix. I had decided on principle not to research the subject using fanboyish methods (like the change in voice actor credits that had occurred a few episodes into the season) and wait for the show itself to make it clear. They might have said the names in a way that could have been figured out once or twice before, but things like recurring character names should be nailed down from the freaking start. Anyway, the two Generals are once again written as imbeciles here, which fit this episode’s humorous tone but conflicts with the smarter portrayal that Crunch occasionally gets. Yeah, these two still aren’t real characters.

The Rangers battle the villains inside the air recycling plant, which was a nice change from the usual warehouses. Their individual Ranger powers are utilized, which is good because individual powers have ALWAYS been underused (though RPM has been better and more creative with this than other recent seasons). However, I want to see power usage that feels organic and integrated into the plot. In this episode, EVERY Ranger takes their turn at using their power. It’s as if the writers realized that the Rangers haven’t been using their powers, so now they should OVERuse them to compensate.

The air recycling plant suffers major damage, so Colonel Truman decides to overpower the shields and play defensively until the plant is repaired. Gem and Gemma’s rejection of the plan, because they would rather attack than defend, sheds some more light on these characters. This episode REALLY hits you over the head with how offensively-minded these two are. I’m thinking that they were conditioned by Alphabet Soup to be the perfect soldiers: they are aggressive, possess flawless chemistry with each other, and seem to have no concept of negativity. Of course this fanboy explanation doesn’t account for how idiotically reckless the twins are portrayed as being. “Mentally disturbed” doesn’t even begin to describe these two. I don’t like the attitude that characters need to become “darker” in order to be better, especially not on a bright shiny kids show like PR. But for Gem and Gemma it would be totally called for. I’m waiting for the episode when these two break down and deal with how messed up they are. Maybe then we could see an emotion besides extreme perkiness.

When the shield becomes overcharged, it becomes difficult to shut down. Venjix knows this, and uses it to his advantage with a vacuum bot that can suck all the air out of the nearly sealed-off city. I like it when the villains actually display planning, instead of just sending a MOTD for some mindless fighting. Scott tries to stop his father from powering up the shields, but his father does it anyway because of their previously established issues with trust and communication. In desperation, Scott gets himself trapped outside with Gem and Gemma. What a great one-episode plot, which gives the fighting actual objectives while tying in with continuity and the characters themselves.

Continuing his funny B-plot, Ziggy continues to press Dr. K to call him by his name. In another nice callback, the Rangers use the exhaust (last shown WAY back in “Rain”) to escape from the shield. They all take their turns using their individual powers to get through the flames, which is excessive because just one or two of them could have gotten the entire team through.

Scott tries to stop the villains’ plan with Gemma, and is almost screwed by her stupidity. Gem is also ridiculous, when he actually asks Tenaya to nicely step aside while he helps Scott and Gemma fight the MOTD. She unbelievably complies.

The MOTD dies, and the episode ends nicely with more Dr. K/Ziggy humor.

Gem and Gemma bring this episode down, but the material was strong enough to withstand them.

Rating: 7.5/10, bordering on 8/10.

[Hears All]

That means we don't know what we're saying? I know I for one never denied their aggressiveness or whatever, but even that aggressiveness seems to come from their madness. It was a stroke of luck that their hunch turned out to be right in this episode. They wanted to just fight, like they have been all over the wasteland when they weren't with the rangers. They never figured "hey, Venjix is gonna suck the air out of the city, so let's escape and take out the Vacuum Bot," unless I read it wrong.

Most people, not everyone. Their agressiveness paid off with a victory didn't it? Sure they got help from Scott, but their the reason they were in the wasteland in the first place

[Kaljinyu]

I really like the first scene, where Dr. K opens up to the team and explains that she hasn’t called them by their real names to avoid potential emotional trauma should she lose them (like she believed she had lost Gem and Gemma). It was very sudden and expository, making her motives blatant when it had been delicately implied before. However, the scene won me over with the humor: Dr. K approaches each Ranger, giving them awkward hugs and somewhat crappy compliments, which are the best she can do. I like how RPM doesn’t shy away from things, and openly makes mention of subjects like female cattiness and Dillon’s psychological problems. Ziggy opens his arms and welcomes a hug, but turns out to be the only one who doesn’t have his actual name mentioned. We know it’s because Dr. K is crushing on him (continuing from “Brother’s Keeper”) and is still uncomfortable with getting close. Also, the show lampshades the fandom’s use of the word “mentor” and the silliness of a young girl like Dr. K filling that role.



This, the presence of Gem and Gemma, and what Scott plans on doing about them in the future were the main things I was focusing on in this episode. As far as the first former, I was more focused on Dr. K and her "base biological instinct" to undermine and sabotage Summer "in an effort to monopolize the attention of the males." It seems there are some things that Alphabet Soup can't take away from a person. I felt Dr. K was coming on kind of strong in that instance, acknowledging that she has instinct to usurp attention from the boys in the Rangers Initiative, even though she's their boss. Attraction to her subordinates kind of bowled me over. But that was alluded to in that brief moment of girl talk she had with Summer. Underneath that lab coat lies a dormant libido.