The Dark Knight Rises Official Discussion Thread

[ForeverGreen]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/112/1127785p1.html

And Batman's next villain might be ... The Forger?

Deadline reports that English actor Tom Hardy, 33, has been cast in an unnamed "lead role" in Batman 3. Hardy previously worked with Bat-director Christopher Nolan in this summer's Inception.

"Insiders are keeping the role secret and won't even say if he's up for a villain role, but that seems a reasonable assumption," according to the site. Rumors swirled in August that Hardy was under consideration for the role of Riddler.
Hardy first came to audiences' notice as the villainous Praetor Shinzon in Star Trek: Nemesis before later gaining critical acclaim for his prison drama Bronson. He also starred opposite Daniel Craig in Layer Cake, and has appeared in RocknRolla, Black Hawk Down and Band of Brothers.

Hardy will also play the title role in Warner Bros.' now-delayed Mad Max 4: Fury Road after making Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and This Means War with Reese Witherspoon and Chris Pine. He'll next appear onscreen in Warrior.

PS. If there already is a thread for The Dark Knight or it's sequel you can merge this one to it (I didn't see one)

[Anza Power]

I am patently waiting for the next film though I'm scared for it because it's gonna be real tough to top TDK, even if it was an awesome movie but not as awesome as TDK critics might pound it to the ground (as if I listen to them but sadly a big public does)

[RyanRXP]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/112/1127785p1.html

Why is everyone so high on wanting the Riddler to be in the next movie? The Riddler is not that good of a villain and doesn't follow the direction of the previous two films. Plus I really don't know why they would need to use a villain that was already in a Batman movie that is still in the public perception?

They need to use a villain that hasn't been used in any of the previous Batman movies.

If they really want a good movie, they should use both Black Mask and Deathstroke. Both the first and second movie involved major gangs, and a villain controlling them. With the Joker now gone, there is once again no one controlling them and Black Mask would be the perfect villain to step into the picture. Deathstroke is one of the best assassins that they can use, and it wouldn't be hard to have Black Mask hire him to stop Batman. These two also allow the film to keep the sense of realism that they have been trying to build in the previous two films.

[ForeverGreen]

Well with the way TDK ended Two Face going on a murder streak and then Batman killing him it is perceived that Batman not only killed Harvey Dent but the people who Harvey killed. So Batman is a fugitive basically and then the Gotham Police department hire The Riddler to help them track down and find out who Batman really is.

[Hears All]

I was really hoping we got The Riddler, that would have been bada$s

I wouldn't mind Hush (which would make a lot of sense)

[RyanRXP]

Well with the way TDK ended Two Face going on a murder streak and then Batman killing him it is perceived that Batman not only killed Harvey Dent but the people who Harvey killed. So Batman is a fugitive basically and then the Gotham Police department hire The Riddler to help them track down and find out who Batman really is.

That is not a good story, and can't run an entire movie. The Riddler can never be a main villain of a story, and it is also not in his character to be someone hired by the police to hunt down Batman. He wouldn't work with the police, he would feel that the police are not worthy of his talents. Plus it wouldn't fit into the story of the other 2 movies. The Riddler does not fit into the types of villains that they are looking for(they want realistic villains), and it ignores the elements of the past movies(Batman questioning himself and the crime lords).

Plus the Riddler just isn't a good villain. Not to mention how lazy it would be to go from the Joker to the Riddler. And that is really all that using the Riddler will be, lazy. It will set a bad precedent and be a bad start for a movie that already needs to be extremely good in order to not get all bad reviews(because of the popularity of the last 2 movies)

And the Riddler was in Batman Forever, which is still very strong in popular culture and is often shown on TV. It would automatically turn many people against the movie, hurting it before it even starts. Plus with all of the great villains that they can use, they are using the Riddler? That is waste of potential, and being just plain lazy.

[ForeverGreen]

Well it really depends on how The Riddler would be portrayed in Chris Nolan's Gotham. The Joker was in Batman with Michael Keaton and directed by Tim Burton and we saw what Heath Ledger did with that role he took it and made it his own and won an oscar for it. Also I don't see it as a good story to basically say Harvey Dent went crazy and killed people and Batman did what he had to....Now lets get the focus on the mafia's and drug lords. The Joker was always intended to be the Villain in the next movie but Heath Ledger passed. I see the movie being a continuation to TDK not a sequel like TDK was to Batman Begins.

[galaxy_ben]

They need to use a villain that hasn't been used in any of the previous Batman movies.

i know what your saying but they use the same villains because their the best ones and make for the best films such as using the Joker and Two Face (the two best ever Batman villains and they made for the best ever film) and to be fair they used less common villains in Batman Begins.

I hope they use the Riddler (played by Micheale Emerson ) and Posion Ivy, those teo are awesome villains and i think would be brillent together. Although i think they will do Riddler and Catwoman.

[ForeverGreen]

i know what your saying but they use the same villains because their the best ones and make for the best films such as using the Joker and Two Face (the two best ever Batman villains and they made for the best ever film) and to be fair they used less common villains in Batman Begins.

I hope they use the Riddler (played by Micheale Emerson ) and Posion Ivy, those teo are awesome villains and i think would be brillent together. Although i think they will do Riddler and Catwoman.

I think they'll go a one man show villain wise Nolan has basically said this is his last Batman Film and Catwoman is difficult to do in one movie.

[galaxy_ben]

I think they'll go a one man show villain wise Nolan has basically said this is his last Batman Film and Catwoman is difficult to do in one movie.

ok, shame they havent used a female villain this series but to be honest iam not the biggest fan of catwoman anyway and shes really overrated.