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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive.92 View Post
    Just as a side note, if these things are never used outside the Megazord cockpit, they definitely don't count as Battlizers.

    That's true. That would be bad if they didn't use it outside the Megazord cockpit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightMere10 View Post
    I agree with you 100%. I've also stated that I feel like they're really only there to ask "Are you ok?" anytime someone is hurt. Which does go to the caring thing, but that's really all there is to it. You could say that Emily is somewhat insecure (judging by Sticks and Stones) but they never really went anywhere with that. She's not even that clumsy anymore. I agree, they are the worst female rangers. Galvatron, I agree that they're only there for eye candy. True, Mia does have a focus episode next week, but I'm not really getting my hopes up about it really defining her as a character.
    Yeah, I don't have my hopes up for that to be honest, but we'll see. Overdrive, I haven't seen much PR outside of this, RPM, and half of a few other seasons, but I'd be inclined to agree with that assessment. Xandred is more interesting than the both of them, and all he really does is sit on his duff drink all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Cmdr Crayfish View Post
    Let's be fair here. Trini is the most bland character in Power Rangers history. This is a character so bland, who nobody wants to write to such an extent they have decided to FANONIZE THE DEATH OF HER ACTRESS to get out of having to write her. No other fandom in history does stuff that stupid. Indeed, they usually write MORE about the dead performer's character... but nobody wants to write about Trini because she's got no personality to speak of other than "afraid of heights" and "likes dolls" and "not as smart as Billy."
    Really? I'm not so sure about that. I mean, Trini is certainly not one of the more exciting women this show has seen, but more bland than Emily or Mia? I'm not so sure about that.

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    Look at this fandom. Look at its emotional and intellectual age. Mike or Kevin or whoever of the two interchangeable non-Jayden/non-Antonio leads is Emily's boytoy is more attractive than Billy. Thus, they're prime shipping material. "Bland" by the criteria of this fandom is negligible in lieu of potentiality of use in audience projection and identification.

    This is why we get so much Nick/Maddie material even though Madison might as well be a cipher. The more bland they are, the more easily awkward kids can pretend they too are capable of an infantile idea of romance. Mia is also easier to fic because she's a mobile punchline in the mold of kid/tween programming. "HA HA! SHE CAN'T COOK!" You can drop a Mia scene into a story for "levity" and you're done. Trini is just... There. She has no memes, no jokes, she's just there. There is not really any point in MMPR you can say we had a MEMORABLE Trini scene.

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    Emily has the whole ditz and clutz and insecure thing. And Mia has the um girl stuck in the 50's with traditional housewife mentality thing. They're weakly undeveloped characters that suffer from telling instead of showing, but they kind of have personalities.

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    ^Then describe their personalities to me and what makes them different. Bad cooking is not a personality. Neither is Emily being a clutz because that was overturned by her being a non-clutz for 29 out of 30 episodes. Emily being a dumb blonde though, that one works. That is reflected by her moronic statements each week.

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    That's the problem though isn't it? These characters (well most of them) could be interesting in theory, but a weak translation mixed with the desire to make the Rangers role models and incompetent writing wipes any chance of personality these Rangers might of had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Cmdr Crayfish View Post
    Look at this fandom. Look at its emotional and intellectual age. Mike or Kevin or whoever of the two interchangeable non-Jayden/non-Antonio leads is Emily's boytoy is more attractive than Billy. Thus, they're prime shipping material. "Bland" by the criteria of this fandom is negligible in lieu of potentiality of use in audience projection and identification.

    This is why we get so much Nick/Maddie material even though Madison might as well be a cipher. The more bland they are, the more easily awkward kids can pretend they too are capable of an infantile idea of romance. Mia is also easier to fic because she's a mobile punchline in the mold of kid/tween programming. "HA HA! SHE CAN'T COOK!" You can drop a Mia scene into a story for "levity" and you're done. Trini is just... There. She has no memes, no jokes, she's just there. There is not really any point in MMPR you can say we had a MEMORABLE Trini scene.
    I hate to say you have a point, but I went to the Samurai forums on Nick.com, and by golly, you're right. So. Much. MEMILY.

    I guess they're just there for young girls to latch on to. I had some kids visit me and see the Samurai Mega Rangers on my shelf. Not only did the kids immediately identify them, but the boy asked for Kevin, and the girl asked for Mia. Oh well. Here's hoping for the next season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf92
    That's the problem though isn't it? These characters (well most of them) could be interesting in theory, but a weak translation mixed with the desire to make the Rangers role models and incompetent writing wipes any chance of personality these Rangers might of had.
    I'm not so sure that these girls could be interesting. I've seen nothing from them that tells me even remotely who they are, or that they're merely being hampered by the poor writing. No matter the reason for it, these girls are just bland. And I've seen no traces of personality from them.
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    I'm not even saying they have personalities (they don't), I'm saying Trini is still blander than them. Because... She doesn't seem to have any real defined character traits. She's not a klutz. She's not a bad cook. She's just there, like she came from the planet K-Pax. Imagine someone writing a MEMORABLE Trini scene. What would they do it in?

    Anything you do with Trini means completely changing the nature of her character ("shy Asian to the point she's almost inhumanly ethereal"), so nobody bothers because then she won't be recognizably Trini. Thuy isn't any worse of an actor than most of the MMPR (well, she lacks Austin and Walter's charisma out of the original five), but the thin character type like that either needs knockout looks or intense personal charisma to be carried. Tommy doesn't get a real personality for YEARS, but nobody notices.

    I'm damned right. Nobody dares write Trini unless they're trying valiantly to ship her to Billy and make people care when Billy is at his most inhuman at this same point in the series. They kill Trini and proclaim to the heavens it's "in tribute" to Thuy after eleven damn years. Trini has been dead in fanon for longer than she was alive in fanon. How sickening is that? Fans who weren't even here in 2001 write these stupid stories, because there is NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT TRINI THAT ADAM DIDN'T END UP DOING, AND BETTER. Adam, after all, comes out of "shy Asian."

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